A.J. My son's girlfriend's father knows Latin. He is a Catholic and goes to Latin Church services. They live in Canada. I have emailed the info to them today. I'm sure I will hear soon the entire thing. Johnette Pate McDuffie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 1:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] Latin translation needed for Pate memorial in Melton Thanks for the responses sent to my inquiry. For the sake of brevity and to conserve space on the Listserve, I'll reply to them all here. Bob Grant. The first two links provide translations for a fee. I sent the incscription to one to get an estimated charge. The other wanted money up front, by the word. I'll pass on doing it myself, since the motto was tough enough and uncertain if I got it right. David Pate. I will try to find a Catholic priest who may offer to translate it for me. I do not know any personally. Andrew Pate. It is really great that your daughter Charlotte is a Latin scholar. I am sure she will be able to translate it, especially since she probably still has access to her teachers if she hits any problems. I will send the Latin inscription to your email. Give Charlotte my appreciation for her efforts. A. J. Pate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2906 - Release Date: 05/30/10 09:21:00

Thanks for the responses sent to my inquiry. For the sake of brevity and to conserve space on the Listserve, I'll reply to them all here. Bob Grant. The first two links provide translations for a fee. I sent the incscription to one to get an estimated charge. The other wanted money up front, by the word. I'll pass on doing it myself, since the motto was tough enough and uncertain if I got it right. David Pate. I will try to find a Catholic priest who may offer to translate it for me. I do not know any personally. Andrew Pate. It is really great that your daughter Charlotte is a Latin scholar. I am sure she will be able to translate it, especially since she probably still has access to her teachers if she hits any problems. I will send the Latin inscription to your email. Give Charlotte my appreciation for her efforts. A. J. Pate

David, I do not have any information on your family, but perhaps others will. The names you mention sound very familiar, and it seems that I have read about them just recently but cannot place where. We have a member of our Pate DNA Project who is a descendant of Lewis Reves Pate. The identical names, though several generations apart, must be more than coincidence. His DNA indicates a close kinship to my gg-gf Newell Walton Pate. Perhaps not a brother, maybe more likely an uncle or cousin. Since we try to protect our members' privacy, I will not disclose his name here, but will send him an email with your information. Hopefully you two may be able to establish a connection. Let me know the results. Thanks for responding to my inquiry. A. J. Pate ____________________________________________ Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 21:35:16 -0400 From: David Taylor <[email protected]> Subject: [PATE] Reeves and Pates Dear A.J., I found this on the Ancestry board: "I just posted the following on the Reves and Reeves forums on Rootsweb (and Reeves on Genforum): "Is anyone aware of any associations of the Reeves/Reves family with the Pate family through marriages or migrations together from about 1770 to 1800 in South Carolina, from 1800 to 1820 in Georgia, and 1820 to 1850 in Alabama? "I am inquiring because my gg-grandfather Newell Walton Pate had a brother or cousin named Lewis Reves Pate who was born c. 1804 in Georgia. I know Newell was named after a man named Newell Walton, and I suspect it is the same case for Lewis. "I would appreciate any information anyone could provide." I don't have any information on the association, but since Lewis Reeves Pate is one of my relatives (though mine was born 1879, the name matches the one born earlier, so I'm figuring a connection), I thought it might be good to write you. My Pates are from Alabama and most end up in Texas. I've been looking for connections within the Pate line to Cherokees seeking to avoid the removal to Oklahoma. My gg grandmother was one of those Cherokees, according to my father, who knew her. Her name was Tebitha Jane Pate and she was married to James Harvey Pate. She died in Clarksville TX in 1940. I have her death certificate. Thanks for any help you can provide. David Greg Taylor http://davidgregtaylor.com/

Our Family Reunion is upon us again. Remember we changed the day of the week to have it. This is the 17th year. Family Reunion Saturday June 5th 2010 Newhope Fire Station Newhope, Arkansas 10:00 AM until Potluck Dinner (bring your favorite dish) drinks or dessert auction, game, show and tell (a family heirloom) and music if you play music or sing bring them with you. bring item(s) for auction if you like Contact Royce Pate 870-583-7546 leave message [email protected] or facebook. Let all your family know. Come and enjoy a day out with family and friends. Hope To See You There

Lloyd, Thanks for your timely posting of this information and the link to a thesis we all could do well to read on this Memorial Day. We too easily forget the service and sacrifice of our armed forces. Freedom is not free! May God bless them all and their families! A. J. Pate __________________________________________________ Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:33:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Lloyd Pate <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PATE] "Famous Pate's" represented in our Pate DNA Project Sargent Lloyd W. Pate was a Korean war POW then served two tours in Vietnan. Now he is the president of the Ex US POW group. Here is a master thesis referencing him and his book. ? http://etd.lib.ttu.edu/theses/available/etd-07312008-31295018634641/unrestricted/31295018634641.pdf

Received this one also shortly after notification that Clovis had been hacked again. We are also receiving some spam/phishing e-mails from our son-in-law's e-address. Have advised him to close out his account. Yahoo seems to be inundated with spammers right now. If you get an e-mail with an address from someone you might know but there is no "subject" in the subject line, also beware. Nita -----Original Message----- From: Joel Pate <[email protected]> To: [email protected] com <[email protected]>; Sherry Hightower <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 6:41 am Subject: [PATE] SCAM I recently receive this message from [email protected] "Hope you get this on time,sorry I didn't inform you about my trip in Wales for a Program, I'm presently in Wales and am having some difficulties here because i misplaced my wallet on my way to the hotel where my money and other valuable things were kept. presently i have limited access to internet,I will like you to assist me with a loan of 1,500 Pounds to sort-out my hotel bills and to get myself back home. I have spoken to the embassy here but they are not responding to the matter effectively,I will appreciate whatever you can afford to assist me with,I'll Refund the money back to you as soon as i return,let me know if you can be of any help.I don't have a phone where i can be reached. Please let me know immediately. Regards." This probably a SCAM. The e-mail address - [email protected] is the address forAnglea Gibbs Bandy. Angelea Gibbs Bandy was briefly a subscriber to the Pate List Serve.She posted one article: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/pate/2010-03/1268325759 and then cancelled her subscripion. If you recevie this mess,you may wish to delete it. Joel -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I recently receive this message from [email protected] "Hope you get this on time,sorry I didn't inform you about my trip in Wales for a Program, I'm presently in Wales and am having some difficulties here because i misplaced my wallet on my way to the hotel where my money and other valuable things were kept. presently i have limited access to internet,I will like you to assist me with a loan of 1,500 Pounds to sort-out my hotel bills and to get myself back home. I have spoken to the embassy here but they are not responding to the matter effectively,I will appreciate whatever you can afford to assist me with,I'll Refund the money back to you as soon as i return,let me know if you can be of any help.I don't have a phone where i can be reached. Please let me know immediately. Regards." This probably a SCAM. The e-mail address - [email protected] is the address forAnglea Gibbs Bandy. Angelea Gibbs Bandy was briefly a subscriber to the Pate List Serve.She posted one article: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/pate/2010-03/1268325759 and then cancelled her subscripion. If you recevie this mess,you may wish to delete it. Joel -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers

My daughter Charlotte Pate can take a stab. She had 6 yrs of Latin. Can someone resend or provide link? Andrew Pate Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: DMPate <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 08:11:56 To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PATE] Latin translation needed for Pate memorial in Melton Mowbray church Have you asked a Catholic Priest to translate it for you?  What I understand of it is an eulogy (statement of their lives) to both and then to each separately and hopes of an afterlife for them in heaven.  BTW!  I am David Michael Pate, b 1951 in the city of Fayetteville, county of Cumberland, state of North Carolina;  3rd son of Prior Pritchard Pate and Esther Elizabeth Stephens also from Cumberland County; sibs:  Stephen V (b1946) and Charles R (b1947); g'parents:  Alexander G "Sandy" Pate from state of South Carolina and Annie Green(e) ________________________________ ________________________________ "we's in trouble. We must carry our glorious philosophy through to its glorious culmination! So that in the end, with enterprise and determination, the world and everything in it will belong to one individual Me! And that will be the ultimate! The absolute ultimate!" so sez The Imperial Me ________________________________ From: Robert N. Grant <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, May 29, 2010 8:49:44 AM Subject: Re: [PATE] Latin translation needed for Pate memorial in Melton Mowbray church AJ, I tried to find a free Latin to English translation source on the web with no success. You might try the following: http://oxfordlatin.co.uk/index.htm http://www.thelatintranslator.com/ or try a portion on your own using the following: http://www.xmission.com/~nelsonb/latin.htm Best wishes, Bob Grant On 5/25/2010 6:07 AM, AJ wrote: > In my paper on Sir John Pate, I mentioned the memorial to Sir John and Elizabeth Pate which is in St. Mary's church in Melton Mowbray.  The memorial was placed there by their two daughters and honors them both, but only Elizabeth is buried there.  Sir John was buried in London. > > The inscription is in Latin, and I am posting it here in the hope that one of you may be a Latin scholar or may know one. > > The following is quoted from Nichols, Vol. II, Part I, p. 253: > In the south transept, now called 'The Old Chancel', formerly a separate chapel, on a mural alabaster monument are these arms: > On a wreath, Argent, three text r's Sable; Pate; impaling, Barry of eight, Argent and Gules per pale countercharged, in chief a greyhound currant, Sable, Skipworth. Crest, a stag's head caboshed, Or; a raven reguardant, with wings expanded, Sable.  The inscription is: > > M. S. > Johannis&  Elizabethae Pate; > quos Deus una, Mors gemina carne fecit, > hos rejunxit hoc marmor, > Siste,&  aspecta, quisquis es qui praeteris, > Johanne Pate (de Sysonby in comitatu Leicestriensi) > baronettu, virum egregium, > Antiqua familia Patorurn de Kettlebee ortu, > natalibus majorem, > vitae mortisque intregru, > affertorem causae Angustae Caroli Primi > (semper beatae memoriae Principem) > strenuu, forte, fidu, > votu piu a quo licet cecidit, > nil addat celebrius Famae tuba. > Quem juxta recumbit (velut in amplexu) > Elizabetha, generis sui gloria, exemplar > vitae probae, mortisque benedictae, > Gulielmi Skipwith, comitatus Leicestrensis, > militis&  baronetti, filia, conjux fidissima, > quae peperit 5 filios (omnes emortuos) filiasque totide, > quaru superstites Abigail, Thomae Smith, > de Hatherton, in comitatu Cestrensi, baronetti, > &  Francisca Caroli Carington, Barone de Wootton, > comitatus Warwicensis, filli natu 4, > conjuges dilectissimae,&  moerentes cohaerdes, > sumptibus suis monumentu hoc impar > parentibus posuerunt charissimis, > quoru ille ritu sepulcrali donatus > apud Stu Egidiu prope Lond. > anno 1659, aetatis sexagesimo septimo; > Illa, sub hac terra, die Augusti decimo septimo, > anno 1628, aetatis suae 37, > Resurrectionem praestolantes. Amen. > > > A. J. Pate > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >    ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The attached are the two variations of the Pate-Pait Family Coat of Arms that I've been able to locate!  Does manyone have any mire crest(s), coats of arms, symbols, emblems, etc that represent the Pate Clans? ________________________________ From: DMPate <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Sat, May 29, 2010 3:46:04 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] Latin translation needed for Pate memorial in MeltonMowbray church It's attached at the bottom of the original message!   On 5/25/2010 6:07 AM, AJ wrote: > In my paper on Sir John Pate, I mentioned the memorial to Sir John and Elizabeth Pate which is in St. Mary's church in Melton Mowbray.  The memorial was placed there by their two daughters and honors them both, but only Elizabeth is buried there.  Sir John was buried in London. > > The inscription is in Latin, and I am posting it here in the hope that one of you may be a Latin scholar or may know one. > > The following is quoted from Nichols, Vol. II, Part I, p. 253: > In the south transept, now called 'The Old Chancel', formerly a separate chapel, on a mural alabaster monument are these arms: > On a wreath, Argent, three text r's Sable; Pate; impaling, Barry of eight, Argent and Gules per pale countercharged, in chief a greyhound currant, Sable, Skipworth. Crest, a stag's head caboshed, Or; a raven reguardant, with wings expanded, Sable.  The inscription is: > > M. S. > Johannis&  Elizabethae Pate; > quos Deus una, Mors gemina carne fecit, > hos rejunxit hoc marmor, > Siste,&  aspecta, quisquis es qui praeteris, > Johanne Pate (de Sysonby in comitatu Leicestriensi) > baronettu, virum egregium, > Antiqua familia Patorurn de Kettlebee ortu, > natalibus majorem, > vitae mortisque intregru, > affertorem causae Angustae Caroli Primi > (semper beatae memoriae Principem) > strenuu, forte, fidu, > votu piu a quo licet cecidit, > nil addat celebrius Famae tuba. > Quem juxta recumbit (velut in amplexu) > Elizabetha, generis sui gloria, exemplar > vitae probae, mortisque benedictae, > Gulielmi Skipwith, comitatus Leicestrensis, > militis&  baronetti, filia, conjux fidissima, > quae peperit 5 filios (omnes emortuos) filiasque totide, > quaru superstites Abigail, Thomae Smith, > de Hatherton, in comitatu Cestrensi, baronetti, > &  Francisca Caroli Carington, Barone de Wootton, > comitatus Warwicensis, filli natu 4, > conjuges dilectissimae,&  moerentes cohaerdes, > sumptibus suis monumentu hoc impar > parentibus posuerunt charissimis, > quoru ille ritu sepulcrali donatus > apud Stu Egidiu prope Lond. > anno 1659, aetatis sexagesimo septimo; > Illa, sub hac terra, die Augusti decimo septimo, > anno 1628, aetatis suae 37, > Resurrectionem praestolantes. Amen. > > > A. J. Pate > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >    ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's attached at the bottom of the original message!   On 5/25/2010 6:07 AM, AJ wrote: > In my paper on Sir John Pate, I mentioned the memorial to Sir John and Elizabeth Pate which is in St. Mary's church in Melton Mowbray.  The memorial was placed there by their two daughters and honors them both, but only Elizabeth is buried there.  Sir John was buried in London. > > The inscription is in Latin, and I am posting it here in the hope that one of you may be a Latin scholar or may know one. > > The following is quoted from Nichols, Vol. II, Part I, p. 253: > In the south transept, now called 'The Old Chancel', formerly a separate chapel, on a mural alabaster monument are these arms: > On a wreath, Argent, three text r's Sable; Pate; impaling, Barry of eight, Argent and Gules per pale countercharged, in chief a greyhound currant, Sable, Skipworth. Crest, a stag's head caboshed, Or; a raven reguardant, with wings expanded, Sable.  The inscription is: > > M. S. > Johannis&  Elizabethae Pate; > quos Deus una, Mors gemina carne fecit, > hos rejunxit hoc marmor, > Siste,&  aspecta, quisquis es qui praeteris, > Johanne Pate (de Sysonby in comitatu Leicestriensi) > baronettu, virum egregium, > Antiqua familia Patorurn de Kettlebee ortu, > natalibus majorem, > vitae mortisque intregru, > affertorem causae Angustae Caroli Primi > (semper beatae memoriae Principem) > strenuu, forte, fidu, > votu piu a quo licet cecidit, > nil addat celebrius Famae tuba. > Quem juxta recumbit (velut in amplexu) > Elizabetha, generis sui gloria, exemplar > vitae probae, mortisque benedictae, > Gulielmi Skipwith, comitatus Leicestrensis, > militis&  baronetti, filia, conjux fidissima, > quae peperit 5 filios (omnes emortuos) filiasque totide, > quaru superstites Abigail, Thomae Smith, > de Hatherton, in comitatu Cestrensi, baronetti, > &  Francisca Caroli Carington, Barone de Wootton, > comitatus Warwicensis, filli natu 4, > conjuges dilectissimae,&  moerentes cohaerdes, > sumptibus suis monumentu hoc impar > parentibus posuerunt charissimis, > quoru ille ritu sepulcrali donatus > apud Stu Egidiu prope Lond. > anno 1659, aetatis sexagesimo septimo; > Illa, sub hac terra, die Augusti decimo septimo, > anno 1628, aetatis suae 37, > Resurrectionem praestolantes. Amen. > > > A. J. Pate > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >    ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From the files of Jinks Pate Lee - M59JohnAPate See: File M59JohnAPate1831-1877~2010.rmgc [M59JohnAPate1831-1877~2010.ged] Joel 1-John A Pate (about 1831-4 March 1877) +Elizabeth Jane "Betsy" Howard (1844-) . . . . 2-Alice C Pate (1860-) . . . . +Joseph P Lloyd (estimated 1858-) . . . . 2-John Coursey Decessa Pate (15 September 1861-9 June 1940) . . . . +Rhoda A Bartlett (9 April 1865-17 October 1944) . . . . . . . . 3-Jessie Pate (May 1885-) . . . . . . . . 3-Susie B Pate (March 1886-) . . . . . . . . 3-Gertrude "Trudie" Pate (December 1887-) . . . . . . . . 3-Aubrey Pate (21 November 1890-26 August 1972) . . . . . . . . +Mary Lena Peace (1895-) . . . . . . . . 3-Essie Pate (August 1893-) . . . . . . . . 3-Flossie D Pate (28 July 1895-29 January 1992) . . . . . . . . +Charles Harrod Ivo Smith (estimated 1893-) . . . . . . . . 3-Dewey Pate (July 1898-) . . . . . . . . 3-Mamie Pate (1901-) . . . . . . . . 3-Hassie Pate (1904-) . . . . 2-William Samuel Pate (24 January 1866-14 September 1934) . . . . +Mary Eliza Hoover (February 1863-) . . . . . . . . 3-Ada Pate (October 1884-) . . . . . . . . 3-Gilbert Pate (15 October 1886-17 September 1970) . . . . . . . . +Ethel Heflin (about 1888-) . . . . . . . . +Nettie (??)-Pate (1887-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Eliza Lee Pate (1908-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Harlin Pate (1910-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 4-J W Pate (1912-) . . . . . . . . 3-Lura Pate (October 1888-) . . . . . . . . 3-Edith Pate (October 1891-) . . . . . . . . 3-Ora Pate (July 1893-) . . . . . . . . 3-Myrtle Pate (April 1896-) . . . . . . . . 3-Elbert Pate (September 1899-) . . . . . . . . +Alberta Nesmith (about 1901-) . . . . . . . . 3-Lee Pate (1902-) . . . . . . . . 3-Ola D Pate (1906-) . . . . 2-Joseph W Pate (20 May 1868-) . . . . +Louisa Annie Cypert (February 1875-) . . . . . . . . 3-Eva Roberta Pate (August 1897-) . . . . +Gertrude (??)-Pate (1888-) . . . . 2-Alfonzo F Pate (25 May 1872-2 May 1945) . . . . +Mollie Blevins (11 March 1873-March 1900) . . . . . . . . 3-Ruth Pate (February 1894-) . . . . . . . . 3-Lee Paul Pate (4 November 1895-15 June 1969) . . . . . . . . +Dora Almeda Doshier (18 March 1894-1961) . . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Kenneth C Pate (1919-) . . . . . . . . 3-Neil Brian Pate (13 January 1898-) . . . . . . . . 3-Cecily B Pate (February 1900-) . . . . +Alice Woods-Collins (1873-1958) . . . . . . . . 3-Lola Pate (1907-) . . . . . . . . 3-Ernest Pate (1909-) . . . . . . . . 3-Paul Pate (1912-) . . . . . . . . 3-Pauline Pate (1915-) . . . . 2-Evan C Pate (14 June 1871-8 August 1929) . . . . +Almeda "Meda" Fielden (February 1870-18 November 1947) . . . . . . . . 3-Eva Pate (August 1894-) . . . . . . . . 3-Iven Pate (March 1896-) . . . . . . . . 3-Austin Pate (19 June 1898-20 September 1972) . . . . . . . . +Zella Vowells (1892-) . . . . . . . . 3-Lottie Pate (1901-) . . . . . . . . 3-John Lee "Johnie" Pate (1905-) . . . . 2-Sarah L Pate (20 January 1875-) -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers

I found this in some of my paper's it off the 1850 census, district 2, St Clair co, Illinois William Pate----43--m--job Mason---born Tenn Mary--------------30--f----born St Clair co Sarah Jirg-------11--f---- " George W. Jirge-8-m----- " Nancy J " " -6-f---- " Muriah Patese---3-m-- " the hand writing was not very easy to make out. also the name on the 3 children could be a J or a T maybe, but here another one from Tenn and wonder if he was a brother too Noah Pate...John Jackson

Have you asked a Catholic Priest to translate it for you?  What I understand of it is an eulogy (statement of their lives) to both and then to each separately and hopes of an afterlife for them in heaven.  BTW!  I am David Michael Pate, b 1951 in the city of Fayetteville, county of Cumberland, state of North Carolina;  3rd son of Prior Pritchard Pate and Esther Elizabeth Stephens also from Cumberland County; sibs:  Stephen V (b1946) and Charles R (b1947); g'parents:  Alexander G "Sandy" Pate from state of South Carolina and Annie Green(e) ________________________________ ________________________________ "we's in trouble. We must carry our glorious philosophy through to its glorious culmination! So that in the end, with enterprise and determination, the world and everything in it will belong to one individual Me! And that will be the ultimate! The absolute ultimate!" so sez The Imperial Me ________________________________ From: Robert N. Grant <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, May 29, 2010 8:49:44 AM Subject: Re: [PATE] Latin translation needed for Pate memorial in Melton Mowbray church AJ, I tried to find a free Latin to English translation source on the web with no success. You might try the following: http://oxfordlatin.co.uk/index.htm http://www.thelatintranslator.com/ or try a portion on your own using the following: http://www.xmission.com/~nelsonb/latin.htm Best wishes, Bob Grant On 5/25/2010 6:07 AM, AJ wrote: > In my paper on Sir John Pate, I mentioned the memorial to Sir John and Elizabeth Pate which is in St. Mary's church in Melton Mowbray.  The memorial was placed there by their two daughters and honors them both, but only Elizabeth is buried there.  Sir John was buried in London. > > The inscription is in Latin, and I am posting it here in the hope that one of you may be a Latin scholar or may know one. > > The following is quoted from Nichols, Vol. II, Part I, p. 253: > In the south transept, now called 'The Old Chancel', formerly a separate chapel, on a mural alabaster monument are these arms: > On a wreath, Argent, three text r's Sable; Pate; impaling, Barry of eight, Argent and Gules per pale countercharged, in chief a greyhound currant, Sable, Skipworth. Crest, a stag's head caboshed, Or; a raven reguardant, with wings expanded, Sable.  The inscription is: > > M. S. > Johannis&  Elizabethae Pate; > quos Deus una, Mors gemina carne fecit, > hos rejunxit hoc marmor, > Siste,&  aspecta, quisquis es qui praeteris, > Johanne Pate (de Sysonby in comitatu Leicestriensi) > baronettu, virum egregium, > Antiqua familia Patorurn de Kettlebee ortu, > natalibus majorem, > vitae mortisque intregru, > affertorem causae Angustae Caroli Primi > (semper beatae memoriae Principem) > strenuu, forte, fidu, > votu piu a quo licet cecidit, > nil addat celebrius Famae tuba. > Quem juxta recumbit (velut in amplexu) > Elizabetha, generis sui gloria, exemplar > vitae probae, mortisque benedictae, > Gulielmi Skipwith, comitatus Leicestrensis, > militis&  baronetti, filia, conjux fidissima, > quae peperit 5 filios (omnes emortuos) filiasque totide, > quaru superstites Abigail, Thomae Smith, > de Hatherton, in comitatu Cestrensi, baronetti, > &  Francisca Caroli Carington, Barone de Wootton, > comitatus Warwicensis, filli natu 4, > conjuges dilectissimae,&  moerentes cohaerdes, > sumptibus suis monumentu hoc impar > parentibus posuerunt charissimis, > quoru ille ritu sepulcrali donatus > apud Stu Egidiu prope Lond. > anno 1659, aetatis sexagesimo septimo; > Illa, sub hac terra, die Augusti decimo septimo, > anno 1628, aetatis suae 37, > Resurrectionem praestolantes. Amen. > > > A. J. Pate > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >    ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

AJ, I tried to find a free Latin to English translation source on the web with no success. You might try the following: http://oxfordlatin.co.uk/index.htm http://www.thelatintranslator.com/ or try a portion on your own using the following: http://www.xmission.com/~nelsonb/latin.htm Best wishes, Bob Grant On 5/25/2010 6:07 AM, AJ wrote: > In my paper on Sir John Pate, I mentioned the memorial to Sir John and Elizabeth Pate which is in St. Mary's church in Melton Mowbray. The memorial was placed there by their two daughters and honors them both, but only Elizabeth is buried there. Sir John was buried in London. > > The inscription is in Latin, and I am posting it here in the hope that one of you may be a Latin scholar or may know one. > > The following is quoted from Nichols, Vol. II, Part I, p. 253: > In the south transept, now called 'The Old Chancel', formerly a separate chapel, on a mural alabaster monument are these arms: > On a wreath, Argent, three text r's Sable; Pate; impaling, Barry of eight, Argent and Gules per pale countercharged, in chief a greyhound currant, Sable, Skipworth. Crest, a stag's head caboshed, Or; a raven reguardant, with wings expanded, Sable. The inscription is: > > M. S. > Johannis& Elizabethae Pate; > quos Deus una, Mors gemina carne fecit, > hos rejunxit hoc marmor, > Siste,& aspecta, quisquis es qui praeteris, > Johanne Pate (de Sysonby in comitatu Leicestriensi) > baronettu, virum egregium, > Antiqua familia Patorurn de Kettlebee ortu, > natalibus majorem, > vitae mortisque intregru, > affertorem causae Angustae Caroli Primi > (semper beatae memoriae Principem) > strenuu, forte, fidu, > votu piu a quo licet cecidit, > nil addat celebrius Famae tuba. > Quem juxta recumbit (velut in amplexu) > Elizabetha, generis sui gloria, exemplar > vitae probae, mortisque benedictae, > Gulielmi Skipwith, comitatus Leicestrensis, > militis& baronetti, filia, conjux fidissima, > quae peperit 5 filios (omnes emortuos) filiasque totide, > quaru superstites Abigail, Thomae Smith, > de Hatherton, in comitatu Cestrensi, baronetti, > & Francisca Caroli Carington, Barone de Wootton, > comitatus Warwicensis, filli natu 4, > conjuges dilectissimae,& moerentes cohaerdes, > sumptibus suis monumentu hoc impar > parentibus posuerunt charissimis, > quoru ille ritu sepulcrali donatus > apud Stu Egidiu prope Lond. > anno 1659, aetatis sexagesimo septimo; > Illa, sub hac terra, die Augusti decimo septimo, > anno 1628, aetatis suae 37, > Resurrectionem praestolantes. Amen. > > > A. J. Pate > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Dear A.J., I found this on the Ancestry board: I just posted the following on the Reves and Reeves forums on Rootsweb (and Reeves on Genforum): Is anyone aware of any associations of the Reeves/Reves family with the Pate family through marriages or migrations together from about 1770 to 1800 in South Carolina, from 1800 to 1820 in Georgia, and 1820 to 1850 in Alabama? I am inquiring because my gg-grandfather Newell Walton Pate had a brother or cousin named Lewis Reves Pate who was born c. 1804 in Georgia. I know Newell was named after a man named Newell Walton, and I suspect it is the same case for Lewis. I would appreciate any information anyone could provide. I don't have any information on the association, but since Lewis Reeves Pate is one of my relatives (though mine was born 1879, the name matches the one born earlier, so I'm figuring a connection), I thought it might be good to write you. My Pates are from Alabama and most end up in Texas. I've been looking for connections within the Pate line to Cherokees seeking to avoid the removal to Oklahoma. My gg grandmother was one of those Cherokees, according to my father, who knew her. Her name was Tebitha Jane Pate and she was married to James Harvey Pate. She died in Clarksville TX in 1940. I have her death certificate. Thanks for any help you can provide. David Greg Taylor http://davidgregtaylor.com/

Following message recently published on PATE message board at Ancestry.com I enjoyed this biennial event in 2008 and if it is the Lord's will, I plan to be at this event. Joel PATE-ROBINSON-SIZEMORE Family Reunion - OCT 2010 - Cusseta, GA Muscogean (View posts) Posted: 26 Apr 2010 5:36PM Classification: Cemetery Surnames: The descendants of George Washington & Rhoda SIZEMORE (including many ROBINSONS) and the descendants of John & Martha Ann (WEATHERS) PATE will meet for a reunion from 10 AM to 2 PM on Saturday, October 2, 2010, at the Mt. Olive Primitive Baptist Cemetery (or Lower Cemetery) in Cusseta, Chattahoochee Co, GA. All PATES, ROBINSONS & SIZEMORES and their kin are encouraged to attend. Dinner will be pot luck, and there will be a covered area with seating for those who care for it. Restrooms will be available. We will be especially honoring George & Rhoda's son Richard D. SIZEMORE (1826-1902) and his wife Mary Matilda (REVELL) SIZEMORE (1829-1912), who are buried at Mt. Olive with many of their descendants. For those who are interested, following the reunion we will be doing some clean-up work in the cemetery - tools and equipment will be provided - however, this portion is optional and strictly voluntary. More details about the meeting will be posted - please pass the word and encourage kin to come. In order that we may adequately plan, those planning to attend are requested to RSVP with a contact name and number or email address and the number expected in your party - email me at retrofit @ flash.net Thanks - looking forward to seeing everyone! John Mallory Land 469.995.5222 -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers

Lloyd, Thank him for his service. Nita Fry -----Original Message----- From: Lloyd Pate <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 7:33 pm Subject: Re: [PATE] "Famous Pate's" represented in our Pate DNA Project Sargent Lloyd W. Pate was a Korean war POW then served two tours in Vietnan. Now he is the president of the Ex US POW group. Here is a master thesis referencing him and his book. http://etd.lib.ttu.edu/theses/available/etd-07312008-31295018634641/unrestricted/31295018634641.pdf --- On Thu, 5/27/10, AJ <[email protected]> wrote: From: AJ <[email protected]> Subject: [PATE] "Famous Pate's" represented in our Pate DNA Project To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 6:05 PM One of the purposes of preparing the list of "Famous Pate's" was the hope that we would discover genealogical connections from living Pate families back to these distinguished ancestors. This could be a very valuable contribution to Pate genealogy. Then it would be hoped that we could get new members into our Pate DNA Project from those kinships. Of the sixteen people on the list, only five have possible known representation in our Project. Genealogical analysis, as provided by Joel Pate, indicates the high likelihood their family lines are represented through Project members. They are: Letitia "Lettie" Pate Evans, 1872 - 1953 Virginia Maurice Pate, 1894 - 1965 Nebraska Gen. Randolph McCall Pate, 1898 - 1961 South Carolina James Leonard Pate, 1935 - 2003 Illinois Dr. Zack T. Pate, 1936 - Georgia Persons with no known representation in our Project are: Bishop Richard Pate, c. 1520 - 1565 England Richard Pate, 1516 - 1588 England Sir John Pate, c. 1585 - 1659 England Richard Pate, c. 1601 - 1657 England - Virginia Col. John Pate, c. 1633 - 1672 England - Virginia Col. Thomas Pate, c. 1652 - 1703 England - Virginia William Pate, 1666 - 1746 England Squire Samuel Pate, 1795 - 1849 Kentucky Joseph William "Joe" Pate, 1892 - 1948 Texas Michael Pate, 1920 - 2008 Australia Jerome K. "Jerry" Pate, 1953 - Georgia While it is highly likely that their DNA is represented in our Project, it is unknown which members may have ancestral links to them. Though we have accomplished much in our Pate genealogy, thanks to the great efforts of Jinks Pate-Lee, Joel Pate, and many others, you can readily see from the above that there are large areas of undeveloped genealogical territory. These represent significant opportunities for dedicated researchers. It also indicates that our Pate DNA Project is still very much a work-in-progress. A. J. Pate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One of the purposes of preparing the list of "Famous Pate's" was the hope that we would discover genealogical connections from living Pate families back to these distinguished ancestors. This could be a very valuable contribution to Pate genealogy. Then it would be hoped that we could get new members into our Pate DNA Project from those kinships. Of the sixteen people on the list, only five have possible known representation in our Project. Genealogical analysis, as provided by Joel Pate, indicates the high likelihood their family lines are represented through Project members. They are: Letitia "Lettie" Pate Evans, 1872 - 1953 Virginia Maurice Pate, 1894 - 1965 Nebraska Gen. Randolph McCall Pate, 1898 - 1961 South Carolina James Leonard Pate, 1935 - 2003 Illinois Dr. Zack T. Pate, 1936 - Georgia Persons with no known representation in our Project are: Bishop Richard Pate, c. 1520 - 1565 England Richard Pate, 1516 - 1588 England Sir John Pate, c. 1585 - 1659 England Richard Pate, c. 1601 - 1657 England - Virginia Col. John Pate, c. 1633 - 1672 England - Virginia Col. Thomas Pate, c. 1652 - 1703 England - Virginia William Pate, 1666 - 1746 England Squire Samuel Pate, 1795 - 1849 Kentucky Joseph William "Joe" Pate, 1892 - 1948 Texas Michael Pate, 1920 - 2008 Australia Jerome K. "Jerry" Pate, 1953 - Georgia While it is highly likely that their DNA is represented in our Project, it is unknown which members may have ancestral links to them. Though we have accomplished much in our Pate genealogy, thanks to the great efforts of Jinks Pate-Lee, Joel Pate, and many others, you can readily see from the above that there are large areas of undeveloped genealogical territory. These represent significant opportunities for dedicated researchers. It also indicates that our Pate DNA Project is still very much a work-in-progress. A. J. Pate

Sargent Lloyd W. Pate was a Korean war POW then served two tours in Vietnan. Now he is the president of the Ex US POW group. Here is a master thesis referencing him and his book.   http://etd.lib.ttu.edu/theses/available/etd-07312008-31295018634641/unrestricted/31295018634641.pdf   --- On Thu, 5/27/10, AJ <[email protected]> wrote: From: AJ <[email protected]> Subject: [PATE] "Famous Pate's" represented in our Pate DNA Project To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 6:05 PM One of the purposes of preparing the list of "Famous Pate's" was the hope that we would discover genealogical connections from living Pate families back to these distinguished ancestors.  This could be a very valuable contribution to Pate genealogy.  Then it would be hoped that we could get new members into our Pate DNA Project from those kinships. Of the sixteen people on the list, only five have possible known representation in our Project.  Genealogical analysis, as provided by Joel Pate, indicates the high likelihood their family lines are represented through Project members. They are: Letitia "Lettie" Pate Evans, 1872 - 1953         Virginia Maurice Pate, 1894 - 1965                              Nebraska Gen. Randolph McCall Pate, 1898 - 1961       South Carolina James Leonard Pate,  1935 - 2003                  Illinois Dr. Zack T. Pate,  1936 -                                  Georgia Persons with no known representation in our Project are: Bishop Richard Pate, c. 1520  - 1565              England Richard Pate, 1516 - 1588                               England Sir John Pate, c. 1585 - 1659                           England Richard Pate, c. 1601 - 1657                           England - Virginia Col. John Pate, c. 1633 - 1672                         England - Virginia Col. Thomas Pate, c. 1652 - 1703                   England - Virginia William Pate, 1666 - 1746                               England Squire Samuel Pate, 1795 - 1849                     Kentucky Joseph William "Joe" Pate, 1892 - 1948          Texas Michael Pate, 1920 - 2008                               Australia Jerome K. "Jerry" Pate, 1953 -                          Georgia While it is highly likely that their DNA is represented in our Project, it is unknown which members may have ancestral links to them.  Though we have accomplished much in our Pate genealogy, thanks to the great efforts of Jinks Pate-Lee, Joel Pate, and many others, you can readily see from the above that there are large areas of undeveloped genealogical territory.  These represent significant opportunities for dedicated researchers.  It also indicates that our Pate DNA Project is still very much a work-in-progress. A. J. Pate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Waynesville Daily Guide Posted May 26, 2010 @ 01:23 PM Donald Pate, 71 of Plato, a retired U.S. Army Sergeant First Class, passed away at 6:37 a.m., Monday, May 24, 2010, at Cox South Hospital,Springfield. Services are pending and will be announced by Memorial Chapels and Crematory of Waynesville/St. Robert. Pate is survived by four children: Donald James Pate, Plato, Catherine Lynn Potts (Larry), Duke, Robert Wade Pate (Cheryl), Cocoa, Fla., and Lawrence James Pate (Angela), Cabool; 10 grandchildren, other relatives and friends. Memorial contributions may be made in memory of Donald Pate. Online condolences may be sent to www.memorialchapelsandcrematory.com