A.J. and others. My email address has changed since I was hacked twice. You can reach me at [email protected] or [email protected] Thanks Clovis -----Original Message----- From: AJ <[email protected]> To: Pate-L <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 9:33 am Subject: [PATE] Rare Out-of-Print Publications by Pate Genealogists Available on CDs This information has been posted on the Listserve several times, but I am reposting it now for the benefit of new subscribers and as a reminder to others. There is an opportunity to acquire long out-of-print works by some of our great Pate genealogists. These are works that many never had the opportunity to obtain before, or perhaps were not even aware of. They are published on CDs in searchable PDF formats, with very attractive labels: "Thomas Pate, d. 1774, Sussex County, Virginia" by Helen Pate Ross. 632 pages. The definitive work on this ancestor. He is an ancestor of Joel Pate. Contact: Joel Pate [email protected] [Of course, orders for this work should be delayed until Joel's recovery is complete.] "Pate Pioneers" by Clovis Byars Herring. A quarterly journal of Pate genealogy, published from 1986 to 1991. All 22 issues. Contact: Clovis Herring [email protected] "The New Pate Pioneers" by Bernard Dudek. A quarterly journal of Pate genealogy, published from 1996 to 1997. All 9 issues. Contact: Bernie Dudek [email protected] Please contact each person directly to purchase your copies. In addition to the above works, Harris B. Pate III, with the assistance of his wife and son, videotaped our Pate Genealogical Convocation which was held in Colonial Williamsburg, Virginia, September 12-14, 2008. This was a very generous and unselfish effort on their part, and truly a gift to the extended Pate family. This Convocation brought together the leading Pate genealogists for the first time in our family's history, including Joel Pate, Clovis Herring, Bernie Dudek, and Dr. Jim Peacock. Unfortunately, Jinks Pate-Lee and Helen Ross Pate passed away just a few months before the Convocation. The Convocation was attended by over 70 people from every part of the nation. This was a once-in-a-lifetime experience. The DVD set for the Convocation is a permanent record of this historic and memorable event. It includes 7 disks, which will be shipped in an 8-disk case. The DVDs are an audio/visual recording of about 14 hours total. They cover the Convocation in its entirety, also including the dinner at the Thomas Pate House in Yorktown and the dedication service for the Thomas Pate memorial marker in the historic cemetery of Grace Episcopal Church in Yorktown. The picture quality is excellent. I watched the DVDs on a small-screen TV, and then played them on my large-screen HDTV, which displayed it full screen without distortion. The quality was high on both screens. The 7-DVD set is priced at $45 for the first set. A second copy is priced at $40. All copies thereafter are priced at $35 each. All prices include priority mail postage. These are basically priced for Harry to recover his out-of-pocket costs in producing these sets. Do not miss this great opportunity to acquire a permanent record of this historic event in the Pate family to preserve it for future generations. Place your orders directly with: Harris Pate 59 Dogwood Ct. Surry, VA 23883 You can send checks or money orders. Please no cash or credit cards. Questions or other inquiries can be sent to Harry's email: [email protected] A. J. Pate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'll relay your message to Joel through Linda. Thank you for praying for him and his family Clovis -----Original Message----- From: ThorPateLine <[email protected]> To: pate <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 12:45 am Subject: Re: [PATE] Joel Pate Thank you for letting us know this, Clovis - I wondered if he was just on vacation and that is why he has not been around, but I am so very sorry to hear that is not the case. although, I am glad to hear his speech is coming back - that is a good sign! I will certainly be keeping him and his family in my prayers! Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clovis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:12 PM Subject: [PATE] Joel Pate I am sure many of you have noticed that Joel Pate has not been on the list serve for awhile. Joel had a stroke and had to have surgery to stop the bleeding in his brain. He is still in Neurology ICU but is making such good progress that he will be going to a private room very soon. I talked to Linda several times and asked if I could post something about Joel on the List serve and she was delighted. She has been getting so many phone calls she can't handle all of them. Tonight Linda was on cloud nine. Joel's speach is coming back and seems to be doing great. Please remember him and Linda in your prayers. Linda will keep me updated and I will pass the word on to all of you through this venue. -- Clovis ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm sure Joel will be pleased to get the final version. I live about 80 miles from the Library in Conroe, TX. My sister and I were talking about going there one day soon. If I can find it when we go I'll get a copy too. I'll pass your good wishes on to Joel when I talk to Linda. Clovis -----Original Message----- From: MaryAnn Hormuth <[email protected]> To: pate <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 10:37 pm Subject: Re: [PATE] Joel Pate Thanks, Clovis, for letting us know about Joel. I sent him e-mail earlier this evening to tell him I had found my copy of MaeAllen Form's final version of her manuscript, SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE A MOTHERLESS CHILD: MIRANDA PATE'S PLIGHT. MaeAllen wrote the paper to prove to DAR that her Miranda was a daughter of Elizabeth Parker and Benagy/Benaga Pate. A few months ago Joel and I discussed the manuscript in private e-mail. He did not know for sure if he had the final version or not. Benagy Pate is the second child of Willoughby Pate of the Thoroughgood Pate line. My brother, Andrew Pate, Jr., has participated in the Pate DNA study. At MaeAllen's request I sent a copy of the final version to the Montgomery County Library in Conroe, Texas, and told them to destroy the earlier version. MaeAllen no longer responds to e-mail contact. So far, I have not seen any sign of other descendants in this line on the Pate List. MaryAnn Hormuth 4655 Mansfield Drive Newburgh IN 47630 812/490-3008 812/499-6809 cell Permanent forwarding e-mail: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:12:52 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PATE] Joel Pate > > > I am sure many of you have noticed that Joel Pate has not been on the list serve for awhile. > Joel had a stroke and had to have surgery to stop the bleeding in his brain. He is still in Neurology ICU but is making such good progress that he will be going to a private room very soon. > I talked to Linda several times and asked if I could post something about Joel on the List serve and she was delighted. She has been getting so many phone calls she can't handle all of them. > Tonight Linda was on cloud nine. Joel's speach is coming back and seems to be doing great. Please remember him and Linda in your prayers. Linda will keep me updated and I will pass the word on to all of you through this venue. > -- > Clovis > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Wed Jul 28 09:36:29 2010 Subject: [PATE] Genealogical Inquiries on the Pate Listserve In Joel's absence, everyone who can contribute should make an effort to answer inquiries or questions that may be posted. Just be conscientious in making clear whether your information is documented or not. You have likely noted how thorough Joel is on making these distinctions. Please include the sources of your information where you can. Most of the burden may fall to Clovis Herring. I will attempt to help where/when I can, but I am not even in the same league as Joel and Clovis. I acquired an interest in genealogy very late in the game, and most of my efforts have been directed to my own family line, and recently expanded to the whole Thoroughgood Pate family line which I belong to. I can answer most questions relating to the Pate DNA Project and genetic (DNA) genealogy. I will help as much as I can with questions on the Thoroughgood family line. Before posting inquiries on the Listserve, I suggest that you do the following: -- Search the archives of this Listserve to see if your question has already been answered -- Search the home page of the late Jinks Pate-Lee at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~patefamily/index.htm -- For the Thoroughgood Pate line, search "The Descendants of Thoroughgood Pate [d. 1713]" maintained by Joe Scarborough at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=thoroughgoodpate&id=I2 -- Search the "Pate Pioneers", available on CDs (as I just posted) A. J. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message and any attachments. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to [email protected]

Clovis, just read the notice that you did for Joel. It is great, and thank you for calling Linda and posting this for everybody. Out of courtesy for Joel and his family I didn't want to be the one to put the news out there for everybody without permission. Knowing the situation (I was aware that it was a stroke from Linda's description) I did not want to call her back and post anything, especially when you andJoel and Linda are closer personally than I am. But I did feel that somebody should be aware of his situation and also be offering prayers for them. Thanks again. I had eye surgery yesterday and haven't been "up to snuff" for reading. Nadine

Joel!  Pls get well soon!  We miss and need you! Bickering!  Q:  How do you know if a Pate is related?  A:  They bicker about anything!   That's what we do all to much; however, that's among us!  Don't let anyone not in the Pate bloodline get involved because they will be crucified with extreme prejudice.  It that a good thing?  NO! But discourse and discussion is, so let's be as civil as we can be but yet let's not drop the discourse because that's how we correct errors and find out just "who is who"! ________________________________ "we's in trouble. We must carry our glorious philosophy through to its glorious culmination! So that in the end, with enterprise and determination, the world and everything in it will belong to one individual Me! And that will be the ultimate! The absolute ultimate!" so sez The Imperial Me

In Joel's absence, everyone who can contribute should make an effort to answer inquiries or questions that may be posted. Just be conscientious in making clear whether your information is documented or not. You have likely noted how thorough Joel is on making these distinctions. Please include the sources of your information where you can. Most of the burden may fall to Clovis Herring. I will attempt to help where/when I can, but I am not even in the same league as Joel and Clovis. I acquired an interest in genealogy very late in the game, and most of my efforts have been directed to my own family line, and recently expanded to the whole Thoroughgood Pate family line which I belong to. I can answer most questions relating to the Pate DNA Project and genetic (DNA) genealogy. I will help as much as I can with questions on the Thoroughgood family line. Before posting inquiries on the Listserve, I suggest that you do the following: -- Search the archives of this Listserve to see if your question has already been answered -- Search the home page of the late Jinks Pate-Lee at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~patefamily/index.htm -- For the Thoroughgood Pate line, search "The Descendants of Thoroughgood Pate [d. 1713]" maintained by Joe Scarborough at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=thoroughgoodpate&id=I2 -- Search the "Pate Pioneers", available on CDs (as I just posted) A. J.

This information has been posted on the Listserve several times, but I am reposting it now for the benefit of new subscribers and as a reminder to others. There is an opportunity to acquire long out-of-print works by some of our great Pate genealogists. These are works that many never had the opportunity to obtain before, or perhaps were not even aware of. They are published on CDs in searchable PDF formats, with very attractive labels: "Thomas Pate, d. 1774, Sussex County, Virginia" by Helen Pate Ross. 632 pages. The definitive work on this ancestor. He is an ancestor of Joel Pate. Contact: Joel Pate [email protected] [Of course, orders for this work should be delayed until Joel's recovery is complete.] "Pate Pioneers" by Clovis Byars Herring. A quarterly journal of Pate genealogy, published from 1986 to 1991. All 22 issues. Contact: Clovis Herring [email protected] "The New Pate Pioneers" by Bernard Dudek. A quarterly journal of Pate genealogy, published from 1996 to 1997. All 9 issues. Contact: Bernie Dudek [email protected] Please contact each person directly to purchase your copies. In addition to the above works, Harris B. Pate III, with the assistance of his wife and son, videotaped our Pate Genealogical Convocation which was held in Colonial Williamsburg, Virginia, September 12-14, 2008. This was a very generous and unselfish effort on their part, and truly a gift to the extended Pate family. This Convocation brought together the leading Pate genealogists for the first time in our family's history, including Joel Pate, Clovis Herring, Bernie Dudek, and Dr. Jim Peacock. Unfortunately, Jinks Pate-Lee and Helen Ross Pate passed away just a few months before the Convocation. The Convocation was attended by over 70 people from every part of the nation. This was a once-in-a-lifetime experience. The DVD set for the Convocation is a permanent record of this historic and memorable event. It includes 7 disks, which will be shipped in an 8-disk case. The DVDs are an audio/visual recording of about 14 hours total. They cover the Convocation in its entirety, also including the dinner at the Thomas Pate House in Yorktown and the dedication service for the Thomas Pate memorial marker in the historic cemetery of Grace Episcopal Church in Yorktown. The picture quality is excellent. I watched the DVDs on a small-screen TV, and then played them on my large-screen HDTV, which displayed it full screen without distortion. The quality was high on both screens. The 7-DVD set is priced at $45 for the first set. A second copy is priced at $40. All copies thereafter are priced at $35 each. All prices include priority mail postage. These are basically priced for Harry to recover his out-of-pocket costs in producing these sets. Do not miss this great opportunity to acquire a permanent record of this historic event in the Pate family to preserve it for future generations. Place your orders directly with: Harris Pate 59 Dogwood Ct. Surry, VA 23883 You can send checks or money orders. Please no cash or credit cards. Questions or other inquiries can be sent to Harry's email: [email protected] A. J. Pate

Clovis . very well put . Polite--Definate and to the point Courtesy is the key to successful research . Laurie Thompson researching the Pate from Scotland -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2010 8:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test Sometime something written sounds different when spoken. I am hoping that each of us takes this into account when reading something on the List serve. We all need to be a little bit more thoughtful when responding to each other. There is no need to write harshly and offend each other and make others think we can't all work together in an polite way. We will not get very far if we get mad at each other and people leave the group. I hope there will be an apology forthcoming from Laynie to Joe Neal and from Joe Neal to Laynie. Come on guys. We are all working toward finding our ancestors. Let's not spoil it by saying things that are not necessary. Clovis -----Original Message----- From: JoeandCarolPate <[email protected]> To: pate <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 2:32 pm Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test Laynie You don't wish to discuss the issue privately but thru an open forum only. Proceed without me and no further input will be forthcoming. Now everyone on the net work knows. Joe Neal In a message dated 7/27/2010 3:18:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: No, Joe Neal - what I don't understand is the logic behind you adamantly stating that something we suggest costs money when it is FREE and when John is merely (right now) testing places for us to use that are FREE. If you don't want to join in with those of us who DO want to be able to share our pictures and scanned docs with other researchers in this way, then please - just stop putting everything down as it costing money. We are looking and testing FREE venues only - not anything that will cost anyone a dime without them OPTING IN for some type of premium account! Thanks, Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test Laynie, Apparently you do not comprehend the logic of reasons for not publishing may data the way you would like. Suggest you contact me on my direct e-mail at: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) in lieu airing your complaint with the entire Pate network. Joe Neal In a message dated 7/26/2010 9:05:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: OK, great - nice to hear that more personally and less commercially is your reasoning for not wanting to share your research photos or old family photos, Joe Neal. That's fine - each to their own, but it seems rather selfish [to me] for any of us to keep old photos and research a secret from anyone else searching who may not know HOW to contact and ask you or any of us for information or photos! They just might be the party that has something to offer us that we might be looking for! If I may ask - less commercially than WHAT exactly? Less commercially than this site with a photo and Pait/Pate family history that is publicly/commercially accessible and COSTS A FEE? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~patepaitfamily/pait.html Just wondering... Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test I have never taken the time to count my photo copies of people, places, tombstones, documents (with a good digital camera you can copy just about anything). A good scanner, if not in memory, can accomplish a specific request for those in my family line. Plus a specific request is handled more personally and less commercially. Joe Neal In a message dated 7/26/2010 2:59:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Not free? Good grief! It's FREE up to 500 photos - how many photos do you need to share for heaven sake??? This list allows NO attachments! Surely you would not expect someone to mail all their photos to you and everyone else on this list in private email when there is something they want to share with everyone! So your 'thanks but no thanks' was you just saying you don't care to use Dropshots or see anyone else's photo shares on there, either - which is so very sad. There are a LOT of microfilms and captures of old documents that some of us have which can be shared on there - which cannot be shared on this list - yet might be of HELP to some on this list! Nobody is trying to replace this list - NO WAY!! We are just trying to FIND A PLACE to share pictures since this list doesn't allow HTML or any attachments! Pick your own place to share - I just SUGGESTED DropShopts to John - there are many other places like that. Picasa is free and run by Google - use that if you don;t like DropShots. Just Google for FREE PHOTO SHARING and there are all kinds of places to be sharing from - each person can pick their own place to share what they want and post the link to the list! Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test DropShots isn't free and is just another way to run your monthly fees with very little return. Thanks but no thanks! In a message dated 7/26/2010 9:41:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Uploaded a few images to the DropShots site as a test: http://www.dropshots.com/Pate1873# Comments welcomed. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My best wishes to Joel for a speedy and full recovery. My thoughts and prayers are with Joel and Linda during this time. Joel's absence from the Listserve makes us even more aware of how valuable he is to Pate genealogy, and it also increases our appreciation for all his selfless efforts. Joel is a great and irreplaceable resource for the Pate family. Our first concern must be for his health and return to his home for the loving care of Linda and his family. But I know that we all will be looking forward to the day when he will be fully participating with us again on this Listserve. It does not seem the same without him. A couple of weeks ago, I noticed that I had not received any emails from Joel nor saw any postings by him on the Listserve. As the week went by, I grew more concerned, and sent Joel an email last week asking if he was doing OK. I was even more concerned when I got no reply, so called his home on Sunday. Monday morning I received an email from Clovis who had spoken with Linda and informed me about Joel's stroke. We exchanged several emails discussing the timing of announcing it to the Listserve. I appreciate Clovis' efforts in keeping us informed and taking this burden off Linda. It is great news to hear of the quick progress he is making. A. J. Pate

Hurry up and get better Joel. Bruce Pate -------------------------------------------------- From: "ThorPateLine" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:35 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PATE] Joel Pate > Thank you for letting us know this, Clovis - I wondered if he was just on > vacation and that is why he has not been around, but I am so very sorry to > hear that is not the case. although, I am glad to hear his speech is > coming > back - that is a good sign! > > I will certainly be keeping him and his family in my prayers! > > Laynie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clovis" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:12 PM > Subject: [PATE] Joel Pate > > > > I am sure many of you have noticed that Joel Pate has not been on the list > serve for awhile. > Joel had a stroke and had to have surgery to stop the bleeding in his > brain. > He is still in Neurology ICU but is making such good progress that he will > be going to a private room very soon. > I talked to Linda several times and asked if I could post something about > Joel on the List serve and she was delighted. She has been getting so many > phone calls she can't handle all of them. > Tonight Linda was on cloud nine. Joel's speach is coming back and seems to > be doing great. Please remember him and Linda in your prayers. Linda will > keep me updated and I will pass the word on to all of you through this > venue. > -- > Clovis > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for letting us know this, Clovis - I wondered if he was just on vacation and that is why he has not been around, but I am so very sorry to hear that is not the case. although, I am glad to hear his speech is coming back - that is a good sign! I will certainly be keeping him and his family in my prayers! Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clovis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:12 PM Subject: [PATE] Joel Pate I am sure many of you have noticed that Joel Pate has not been on the list serve for awhile. Joel had a stroke and had to have surgery to stop the bleeding in his brain. He is still in Neurology ICU but is making such good progress that he will be going to a private room very soon. I talked to Linda several times and asked if I could post something about Joel on the List serve and she was delighted. She has been getting so many phone calls she can't handle all of them. Tonight Linda was on cloud nine. Joel's speach is coming back and seems to be doing great. Please remember him and Linda in your prayers. Linda will keep me updated and I will pass the word on to all of you through this venue. -- Clovis ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am very sorry to hear that Joel has had a stroke. I am delighted to hear he is doing so well. Joel, you will be in my prayers, and I hope you have a wonderful recovery. Linda La Hue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Clovis Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PATE] Joel Pate I am sure many of you have noticed that Joel Pate has not been on the list serve for awhile. Joel had a stroke and had to have surgery to stop the bleeding in his brain. He is still in Neurology ICU but is making such good progress that he will be going to a private room very soon. I talked to Linda several times and asked if I could post something about Joel on the List serve and she was delighted. She has been getting so many phone calls she can't handle all of them. Tonight Linda was on cloud nine. Joel's speach is coming back and seems to be doing great. Please remember him and Linda in your prayers. Linda will keep me updated and I will pass the word on to all of you through this venue. -- Clovis ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joel, I don't know you personally but you have helped me so much with the Pate Genealogy. Here's to a speedy recovery. My prayers are with you & Linda. Monta Jones,a Pate descendent. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:34:58 -0500 > Subject: Re: [PATE] Joel Pate > > Oh my goodness, I hadn't heard about Joel. I too am more of a lurker...I > don't have anything much to say but wanted to send my best wishes to > (cousin ) Joel. He and his family are in our prayers. Joel has helped me > link my ancestors to his and introduced me to 100's of relatives I never > knew I had! GET WELL SOON JOEL!! Do you think we could get an address so we > could send a card? Beverly Pate Wiggins > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:21 PM > Subject: Re: [PATE] Joel Pate > > > > Thanks so much for the update on Joel. I am probably more of a lurker, > > reading, but rarely contributing. Please send Joel my regards and hope he > > is better soon!! Kati Phelps (daughter of Martha Pate Pittman Cheatham - > > deceased) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf > > Of Clovis > > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:13 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [PATE] Joel Pate > > > > > > I am sure many of you have noticed that Joel Pate has not been on the list > > serve for awhile. > > Joel had a stroke and had to have surgery to stop the bleeding in his > > brain. > > He is still in Neurology ICU but is making such good progress that he will > > be going to a private room very soon. > > I talked to Linda several times and asked if I could post something about > > Joel on the List serve and she was delighted. She has been getting so many > > phone calls she can't handle all of them. > > Tonight Linda was on cloud nine. Joel's speach is coming back and seems to > > be doing great. Please remember him and Linda in your prayers. Linda will > > keep me updated and I will pass the word on to all of you through this > > venue. > > -- > > Clovis > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Clovis, for letting us know about Joel. I sent him e-mail earlier this evening to tell him I had found my copy of MaeAllen Form's final version of her manuscript, SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE A MOTHERLESS CHILD: MIRANDA PATE'S PLIGHT. MaeAllen wrote the paper to prove to DAR that her Miranda was a daughter of Elizabeth Parker and Benagy/Benaga Pate. A few months ago Joel and I discussed the manuscript in private e-mail. He did not know for sure if he had the final version or not. Benagy Pate is the second child of Willoughby Pate of the Thoroughgood Pate line. My brother, Andrew Pate, Jr., has participated in the Pate DNA study. At MaeAllen's request I sent a copy of the final version to the Montgomery County Library in Conroe, Texas, and told them to destroy the earlier version. MaeAllen no longer responds to e-mail contact. So far, I have not seen any sign of other descendants in this line on the Pate List. MaryAnn Hormuth 4655 Mansfield Drive Newburgh IN 47630 812/490-3008 812/499-6809 cell Permanent forwarding e-mail: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:12:52 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PATE] Joel Pate > > > I am sure many of you have noticed that Joel Pate has not been on the list serve for awhile. > Joel had a stroke and had to have surgery to stop the bleeding in his brain. He is still in Neurology ICU but is making such good progress that he will be going to a private room very soon. > I talked to Linda several times and asked if I could post something about Joel on the List serve and she was delighted. She has been getting so many phone calls she can't handle all of them. > Tonight Linda was on cloud nine. Joel's speach is coming back and seems to be doing great. Please remember him and Linda in your prayers. Linda will keep me updated and I will pass the word on to all of you through this venue. > -- > Clovis > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh my goodness, I hadn't heard about Joel. I too am more of a lurker...I don't have anything much to say but wanted to send my best wishes to (cousin ) Joel. He and his family are in our prayers. Joel has helped me link my ancestors to his and introduced me to 100's of relatives I never knew I had! GET WELL SOON JOEL!! Do you think we could get an address so we could send a card? Beverly Pate Wiggins ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] Joel Pate > Thanks so much for the update on Joel. I am probably more of a lurker, > reading, but rarely contributing. Please send Joel my regards and hope he > is better soon!! Kati Phelps (daughter of Martha Pate Pittman Cheatham - > deceased) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > Of Clovis > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PATE] Joel Pate > > > I am sure many of you have noticed that Joel Pate has not been on the list > serve for awhile. > Joel had a stroke and had to have surgery to stop the bleeding in his > brain. > He is still in Neurology ICU but is making such good progress that he will > be going to a private room very soon. > I talked to Linda several times and asked if I could post something about > Joel on the List serve and she was delighted. She has been getting so many > phone calls she can't handle all of them. > Tonight Linda was on cloud nine. Joel's speach is coming back and seems to > be doing great. Please remember him and Linda in your prayers. Linda will > keep me updated and I will pass the word on to all of you through this > venue. > -- > Clovis > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks so much for the update on Joel. I am probably more of a lurker, reading, but rarely contributing. Please send Joel my regards and hope he is better soon!! Kati Phelps (daughter of Martha Pate Pittman Cheatham - deceased) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Clovis Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PATE] Joel Pate I am sure many of you have noticed that Joel Pate has not been on the list serve for awhile. Joel had a stroke and had to have surgery to stop the bleeding in his brain. He is still in Neurology ICU but is making such good progress that he will be going to a private room very soon. I talked to Linda several times and asked if I could post something about Joel on the List serve and she was delighted. She has been getting so many phone calls she can't handle all of them. Tonight Linda was on cloud nine. Joel's speach is coming back and seems to be doing great. Please remember him and Linda in your prayers. Linda will keep me updated and I will pass the word on to all of you through this venue. -- Clovis ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am sure many of you have noticed that Joel Pate has not been on the list serve for awhile. Joel had a stroke and had to have surgery to stop the bleeding in his brain. He is still in Neurology ICU but is making such good progress that he will be going to a private room very soon. I talked to Linda several times and asked if I could post something about Joel on the List serve and she was delighted. She has been getting so many phone calls she can't handle all of them. Tonight Linda was on cloud nine. Joel's speach is coming back and seems to be doing great. Please remember him and Linda in your prayers. Linda will keep me updated and I will pass the word on to all of you through this venue. -- Clovis

Coni, I tried to send you a page out of Pate Pioneers. It does not look like that will work. Tomorrow I will send it to your personal email. along with other info I found in the Pate Pioneers. -----Original Message----- From: Coni Davis <[email protected]> To: pate <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 2:46 pm Subject: Re: [PATE] Facebook Cancellation My line is: Jacob Pate 15 Oct. 1755, died 8 Aug 1831 in TN md. Fanny? Died prior to Dec. 1813 Bird Pate 1780-1790 VA, died 15 July 1843 AR md. 16 Sept. 1881 Rebecca Hankins ca 1795, ca 1858 Jacob Pate 18 Mar 1822, 23 Aug 1885 md. Ca 1843 Martha Howerton 22 Mar 1826, 17, Jan, 1908 William B. Pate 5 Mar 1858, 20 Mar 1936 md. 16 Sept. 1881 Sarah S. Steelman 30 Aug 1862, 4 Feb 1889 Herbert M. Snapp 14 Jan 1880, 9 Mar 1940 md 17 Jan 1903 Maggie V. Pate 10 Dec 1884, 25 Feb 1940 C.R. Snapp, 12 Oct 1920, 18 Apr 2010 Md 1 Sept. 1946 Jewel Courtney 26 Apr 1926 Constance Lynn Snapp 27 Aug 1947 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:13 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] Facebook Cancellation Coni, A little more info would be helpful in searching the files for your William B. Pate. Things like when and where he was born. If you have found him in the census records you will have that info. Since William was a well liked name in the Pate family there is many to be looked at. I'll be happy to check all the issues of "The Pate Pioneer" for you, if you can give me a bit more info. Clovis -----Original Message----- From: Coni Davis <[email protected]> To: bruce.mckown <[email protected]>; pate <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 7:51 am Subject: Re: [PATE] Facebook Cancellation I have a William Bruen/Bruin Pate in my line. Do you think he might have gone to Arkansas? My Wm. B. Pate is buried in Batesville, AR. I do have a photos of his stone. Do you know who he married or anything like that? I'll look in my stuff later to see who his father was. They all died before I was a thought, but I have heard lots of tales I could share. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 6:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] Facebook Cancellation The irony of this search for me is the fact that William B. Pate has a sister, Josephine Joannah Pate and she is the ggrandmother of my husband. I know where she is buried and I have known and spoken to some of her family but they do not seem to know where this Wm. B. Pate died and is buried. Odd situation since I know the father of these two was Joseph Pate and the mother was Melinda? Birthdays, etc. I have but physcial location for him (Wm B.) is a lost cause. thanks for answering my msg. ellen > No one is trying to move this list, Ellen. No one ever mentioned any such > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Laynie, Thank you for the apology. It someone decides not to accept it that's their fault, not yours. You opened the door and it's up to them to come through it. Maybe in the future you can rethink things before you post them. Sounds like your mother I'm sure. :) I admit I did not take the time to read the FAQ because of my situation right now. I butted in because I have so many friends/family in this group I cannot stand to think that there will be bickering back and forth. Genealogy is my escape from the world right now and this group, for the most part, want things to be pleasant and peaceful. Hopefully you and Joe can sign a peace treaty soon. If that's not possible just try to ignore each other. That way things will work out for all of us. "Peace" Clovis -----Original Message----- From: ThorPateLine <[email protected]> To: pate <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 6:56 pm Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test You are so right, Clovis... My sincere apologies to Joe Neal and to the group. I may not have been tactful when pointing out Joe's assumption that what we are doing will cost anyone any money! IT WILL NOT. Also, I apologize if no one else understood this from the git-go, too. I understood it when John posted about it, so I apologize to the group if no one else understood it - and I assumed they should have since I did. Oh - and I also apologize for whatever else there is to apologize for! :) We are all really "family" here - linked by some ancestor(s) somewhere - and families have squabbles within them sometimes. I never mean to offend anyone on purpose, as I am sure no one ever really means to offend me on purpose! Let's *please* get back on topic with this now. . . John asked for suggestions for a photo-sharing place where we could share our photos and documents that cannot be shared as attachments via this mailing list. John is taking these suggestions and uploading pics and docs to the suggested places and asking me to check and download and report what I find. We are JUST TESTING at present. NOTHING is going to cost anyone any money unless they OPT IN for an upgrade to a premium acct.! We are looking for FREE VENUES only - and that is all we are testing. If any of you have not read the FAQ for the places we are testing and you ASSUME it is going to cost you money - then that is your fault for not reading the FAQ and you should not be scaring the group into thinking it will cost them money when it will not - not unless someone decides to opt into the premium subscription and this would be their personal choice, not for the whole group! So if you have any suggestions for any other FREE photo-sharing places, please feel free to suggest them and we will test them! Thanks to all who are in favor of this endeavor, too. :) Much appreciated! Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test Sometime something written sounds different when spoken. I am hoping that each of us takes this into account when reading something on the List serve. We all need to be a little bit more thoughtful when responding to each other. There is no need to write harshly and offend each other and make others think we can't all work together in an polite way. We will not get very far if we get mad at each other and people leave the group. I hope there will be an apology forthcoming from Laynie to Joe Neal and from Joe Neal to Laynie. Come on guys. We are all working toward finding our ancestors. Let's not spoil it by saying things that are not necessary. Clovis -----Original Message----- From: JoeandCarolPate <[email protected]> To: pate <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 2:32 pm Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test Laynie You don't wish to discuss the issue privately but thru an open forum only. Proceed without me and no further input will be forthcoming. Now everyone on the net work knows. Joe Neal In a message dated 7/27/2010 3:18:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: No, Joe Neal - what I don't understand is the logic behind you adamantly stating that something we suggest costs money when it is FREE and when John is merely (right now) testing places for us to use that are FREE. If you don't want to join in with those of us who DO want to be able to share our pictures and scanned docs with other researchers in this way, then please - just stop putting everything down as it costing money. We are looking and testing FREE venues only - not anything that will cost anyone a dime without them OPTING IN for some type of premium account! Thanks, Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test Laynie, Apparently you do not comprehend the logic of reasons for not publishing may data the way you would like. Suggest you contact me on my direct e-mail at: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) in lieu airing your complaint with the entire Pate network. Joe Neal In a message dated 7/26/2010 9:05:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: OK, great - nice to hear that more personally and less commercially is your reasoning for not wanting to share your research photos or old family photos, Joe Neal. That's fine - each to their own, but it seems rather selfish [to me] for any of us to keep old photos and research a secret from anyone else searching who may not know HOW to contact and ask you or any of us for information or photos! They just might be the party that has something to offer us that we might be looking for! If I may ask - less commercially than WHAT exactly? Less commercially than this site with a photo and Pait/Pate family history that is publicly/commercially accessible and COSTS A FEE? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~patepaitfamily/pait.html Just wondering... Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test I have never taken the time to count my photo copies of people, places, tombstones, documents (with a good digital camera you can copy just about anything). A good scanner, if not in memory, can accomplish a specific request for those in my family line. Plus a specific request is handled more personally and less commercially. Joe Neal In a message dated 7/26/2010 2:59:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Not free? Good grief! It's FREE up to 500 photos - how many photos do you need to share for heaven sake??? This list allows NO attachments! Surely you would not expect someone to mail all their photos to you and everyone else on this list in private email when there is something they want to share with everyone! So your 'thanks but no thanks' was you just saying you don't care to use Dropshots or see anyone else's photo shares on there, either - which is so very sad. There are a LOT of microfilms and captures of old documents that some of us have which can be shared on there - which cannot be shared on this list - yet might be of HELP to some on this list! Nobody is trying to replace this list - NO WAY!! We are just trying to FIND A PLACE to share pictures since this list doesn't allow HTML or any attachments! Pick your own place to share - I just SUGGESTED DropShopts to John - there are many other places like that. Picasa is free and run by Google - use that if you don;t like DropShots. Just Google for FREE PHOTO SHARING and there are all kinds of places to be sharing from - each person can pick their own place to share what they want and post the link to the list! Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test DropShots isn't free and is just another way to run your monthly fees with very little return. Thanks but no thanks! In a message dated 7/26/2010 9:41:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Uploaded a few images to the DropShots site as a test: http://www.dropshots.com/Pate1873# Comments welcomed. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message