At 11:06 AM 8/6/00 -0700, you wrote: >Does the Susquehanna Historical Society in Susquehanna have an Email >address? > >It seems to me I have read in one of these passing Emails that they have >information on some of the cemeteries in Susquehanna and the surrounding >area. > >I am very much interested in St John's Catholic Cemetery (Laurel Hill >Cemetery) in Susquehanna. I have asked the church clerk to check on >members of my family buried there and have been ignored each time I >requested information. It appears they are very busy with other more >pressing matters and do not have time to look up burial information. It's >too bad some members of the church could not get together and go over the >church records and computerize them to make them available to people >looking for information. > >James Ball > >May I ask if you know where that cemetery is located and how to get there? If I know how to get there eventually I will try to visit most cemeteries. Mary Jean >From Cemetery to Tree My Pennsylvania Roots http://home.stny.rr.com/brown/index.htm Researching: Brown, Wilmarth, Tewksbury, Tiffany, Squires, Perry and others.

Perhaps the members of the church are not so obsessive as we amateur genealogists. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Ball" <jimbo@freeway.net> To: <PASUSQUE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 2:06 PM Subject: Susquehanna Historical Society

Is there anyone out there who uses this program that may be able to help me with a "how to" question? If so, please let me know and thanks for the help. Jan in florida

I have found in dealing with churches it is always a good idea to include a check ($10.00-20.00) as an incentive to obtain the information you are requesting. It is true that they have more pressing matters to take care of but I have never been denied information from a church official either in U.S. or Ireland. Jan in Florida

RiJe6365@aol.com wrote: > > Bob, > > Also, you mentioned your Catholic families in Susquehanna. Did you mean > Susquehanna Co., or Susquehanna town (or Susquehanna Depot, as it used to be > called). My Irish Catholic family is BRICK from Susquehanna town, and several > are buried at St John's Cemetary, Laurel Hill there. > > Jeannette Hi Jeanette and Bob, I have some information on Irish Catholic families from the Friendsville and Middletown areas of Susquehanna County. Period covered is mainly from mid-1830s to mid-1850s, with a few later ones. Surnames include Grimes, Doheny, Anderley, Boland, Collins, Connolly, Cotter, Flynn, Hartigan, possibly Halpin, McCormick, McGrann, Tierney. Bill Grimes Round Rock, Texas grimy_b@swbell.net

Bob, Will get that Newman Cemetery name for you over the weekend. Also, about 4 or 5 years ago, I talked with a very elderly gentleman who at that time had access to the records of who was buried where in Newman. As I remember, he said there were many "lost or inadequate" names. However, I will search thru my notes and find what I wrote down about it. Also, you mentioned your Catholic families in Susquehanna. Did you mean Susquehanna Co., or Susquehanna town (or Susquehanna Depot, as it used to be called). My Irish Catholic family is BRICK from Susquehanna town, and several are buried at St John's Cemetary, Laurel Hill there. Susquehanna Depot Historical Society, located at the shopping plaza in town, and only open Sundy afternoons, has a quite a bit of info abt the town, as well as several old city directories early 1900's...if your family might be listed there. Susquehanna was a bustling place back in the late 1800's-1900's because of the railraod. Back to you later. Jeannette

Hi Jim, Thanks for your note. My own Catholic families in Susquehanna Co. are Cunningham and McVinnie (also spelled McVinnia, McVinea, McAveny, Mack, Mac, and a dozen other ways). There's a collateral relation to a Harding family in the area, and may well be other collateral connections that I haven't been able to focus on yet. But on my recent trip to the County, I had one of those epiphanies that make family research so much more than the bloodless search for data in microfilm and online (much as I do appreciate those sources of information): I was standing in the peaceful hillside cemetery down the road from St. Francis Xavier Church in Friendsville in the middle of dozens of fading stones that seemed to be working so desperately to hold on to links from 'home'--Native of ..., etc. And I had the powerful emotional realization that I was walking over the bones of very real people who were a regular part of my ancestors' daily lives. I suspect many of the people buried there were 'waked' back in Ireland as they got ready to emigrate, came over in the 'coffin' ships, and knew that they couldn't go home again no matter how hard the life was in the new place. I'm sure my Green ancestors in Susquehanna County had about as hard a life, and lost as many young children, as my Irish ancestors did, but there's a record of the 3 Green brothers (Lowry, Asa, and James) making trips back to their home in Dutchess County, NY. If there were time enough, and money, I would be researching broadly in the Irish settlements in that part of the County, but.... By the way, as I continue to work at transcribing the audio tape I made of the readable stones in St. Francis Xavier Cemetery, I've come across references to Conboy, Foster, and maybe Bergin, as well as a seemingly-incredible number of Hickey's. (I think I actually say on the tape, "Oh no, not another Hickey stone.') It might take me a few more weeks to get the list posted (since for this cemetery I'm transcribing both given names and surnames as well as family relationships and county of origin), but I will send a copy of the transcription to Mary Jean in hopes that she can put it up on her site ( http://home.stny.rr.com/brown/index.htm ). And I'll post the surnames on the PASUSQUE list. I wish I did have more information for you on your family lines, but beyond the cemetery listings I can't help at this point. Thanks, Bob Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "james conboy" <conboy@voyager.net> To: <rcgreen@myfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 8:31 AM Subject: cemeteries > Bob, I note your interest in some of the Catholic cemeteries in Susquehanna > County. Are you resarching Irish Catholic families in the area? I have been > researching the following names and wonder if we have any common interests: > Conboy, Clark, Foster, Bergin, and Hickey. I also have information on the > Curleys. > > Jim Conboy >

In a recent trip to New York I learned that my Sally Merrell was married to James Lindsay. Their daughter Demarius was married to John Tarbox. During a visit to the Historical Society in Deposit I learned quite a bit on the Merrill family. I, too, am searching for information on the Lindsay family and any further information on the Merrill family.Right now my interest is also centered on locating informaiton to the parents of John Tarbox. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Janice in Indiana

In checking through the Catalog for the Family History Library (Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-Day Saints), I found 4 sources concerning cemeteries in Susquehanna County. They are: 1. Cemetery records of Susquehanna County, Pennsylvania compiled by Maria Steenburg Call Number 974.834 V22st and Call Number 974.834 V22st v. 2 ********* 2. Cemetery records of Susquehanna County, Pennsylvania Call Number 974.834 V22s ********* 3. Susquehanna County, Pennsylvania cemetery records Call Number: 974.834 V22b ********** 4. Susquehanna County, Pennsylvania, cemetery records by Lettie Elliot Call Number: 974.834 V22e Can anyone provide a list of the cemeteries recorded in any of these sources? I'm especially interested in the Newman Cemetery (aka Hasbrouck Hill Cemetery), St. Thomas the Apostle Cemetery (Little Meadows), St. Francis Xavior Cemetery (Friendsville), and St. Joseph's Cemetery (close to Friendsville). Thanks, Bob Green rcgreen@myfamily.org

Hi Jeannette, When I visited the Newman Cemetery last week, I was very impressed that someone was putting so much work into identifying graves with the many, many hand-carved rough slate stones sprinkled through the plots. Since that seems to be one of the first steps in restoration of a cemetery recommended on that site I mentioned in a previous email to the list (http://www.gravestonestudies.org/), I wonder if some person or group is actually in the process of restoring the older section of Newman. Would you give me a lead on that if you know? If you can come up with the name/address of that caretaker living in Great Bend, that would be great. I'd especially like to find out if they've rediscovered the records I asked about when I wrote them 25 years ago. I did have a big 'oops' response when I read in your posting: ' Years ago I checked at > the LDS Family Hx Center in Binghamton, NY ("just down the road a piece") for > Newman Cemetery listings. At that time there was....' If someone has already recorded the cemetery, I've wasted some time in my work on it. I should have checked both the Historical Society in Montrose and the Family History Library Catalog first. Your comment motivated me to at least reference the Family History Library Catalog for the other Susquehanna County cemeteries I'm working on. Thanks very much for that. In fact, I don't find any reference to the cemeteries I'm interested in. Strangely, not even the Newman. Was that information you refer to in the LDS Family Hx Center in Binghamton kept there locally only? I would like to check it for the information I'm after on the Green family. I intend to check with the History Society in Montrose before I go ahead with work on the other cemeteries. Have to say, I was charmed by the tone of your comments about the Newman. It's always nice to come upon someone else who understands that, as important as the information on the stones is, a cemetery is so much more than the data that can be collected from those gravestones. Thanks, Bob Green ----- Original Message ----- From: <RiJe6365@aol.com> To: <PASUSQUE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 10:21 AM Subject: Re: PASUSQUE-D Digest V00 #195 > Just an added bit of info on the Newman Cemetery : Years ago I checked at > the LDS Family Hx Center in Binghamton, NY ("just down the road a peice") for > Newman Cemetery listings. At that time there was an error for the VAN ETTEN > inscription. The listing was typed "Mannetting or Mannetten, I think. > > There is a Newman Cemetery caretaker living in Great Bend, whose name I > can't come up with right now...but on my last several visits to cem., it was > evident that some restoration work is in progress. It is a BEAUTIFUL site, > but then I'm prejudiced, as I have several Prentice, Van Etten, (maybe > Roosa), Chamberlin,relatives buried there. AND, (very important ( : )), my > old schoolbus -driver, Mr Dixon, is also interred there. > > Jeannette >

Thanks, Mary Jean, for the newspaper info. Have been planning a trip to Susq. for some time now...and had hoped I could scan the newspapers for several items. Jeannette

Just an added bit of info on the Newman Cemetery : Years ago I checked at the LDS Family Hx Center in Binghamton, NY ("just down the road a peice") for Newman Cemetery listings. At that time there was an error for the VAN ETTEN inscription. The listing was typed "Mannetting or Mannetten, I think. There is a Newman Cemetery caretaker living in Great Bend, whose name I can't come up with right now...but on my last several visits to cem., it was evident that some restoration work is in progress. It is a BEAUTIFUL site, but then I'm prejudiced, as I have several Prentice, Van Etten, (maybe Roosa), Chamberlin,relatives buried there. AND, (very important ( : )), my old schoolbus -driver, Mr Dixon, is also interred there. Jeannette

In an earlier email, I mentioned using bleach to clean some grave stones. I've just come across a site that seems to have a better handle on avoiding damage to stones. It states that Bleach should not be used, and recommends a number of other cleaning agents. The site is http://www.gravestonestudies.org/faq.htm#Some%20Gravestone%20Rubbings%20Dos%20and%20Don'ts If you can't copy this url into your address line, you might go to the site http://www.gravestonestudies.org/ and then select the hyperlink 'Research Clearing House', then the link 'Preservation', then the link "More Information FAQ' (at the bottom of the page), then the following FAQ: a.. Gravestone Rubbing Dos and Don'ts a.. Selected Brand Name Materials for Cleaning Gravestones- by Tracy C. Walther (Architectural Conservator) a.. Tools and Materials- by Fannin Lehner Preservation Consultants Household ammonia is recommended (One cup ammonia to one gallon water), but you should wash the stone afterwards.. The product Photo-Flo-Kodak is recommended. Also some specialized cleaning products available at swimming pool suppliers.

Thanks, Jeannette, for that information about your relatives in the Newman Cemetery, and for sharing your memories of it. As I looked back over the surname list I emailed to the PASUSQUE-L, I found the entry 'Banetta?'. I read into a small tape recorder as I walked through the cemetery, and when I checked the tape a couple of minutes ago, it's clear that 'B' should be a 'V'. I'll wait awhile to see if there are any other additions or corrections emailed to me, and then will forward to Mary Jean a corrected list showing Van Etten. The list I transcribed from my tape has on it only the first occurrence of a given surname. I think there were a number of West stones mentioned on the tape, as well as more than one Prentice stone (I think). But I don't have the time right now to go back through the whole tape, which might run for about 90 minutes since I recorded at the slowest possible speed. There were many stones that I couldn't read or could read only partially. After a while, I gave up trying to read the whole of most stones (getting dark, rain coming on, bugs, and poison ivy!), but since I was still fresh at the point when I came on the Van Etten stone, I actually had a bit more information about it on the tape, as well as the West stone near it. This is what the tape says at that point: Eugene L. West, 1842-1913, Susan M., his wife, born 1852 (no death date indicated). Rachel, wife of David Vanetta? (can't read end of surname) died 27 Dec 27 1885, age (can't read). That I couldn't read a portion of the stone doesn't mean no one could read it, especially if that person had a hint from other sources what the characters might be. So I hope anyone with any corrections or additions to this list of surnames will email me. In fact, if you have additional information that could help turn the list of surnames into a complete detailing of the stones, I'd like to hear from you. My own ancestor's stone was within a few feet of the West stone. It's a broken obelisk that, if you could still read it, would mention 'Armina, wife of Asa Green.' I'm going to do another email to the list about the matter of illegible stones, so more on that later. But I do want to stress that my surname list can't be complete because of the condition of the stones. The legibility of some could be restored if treated with bleach, which I think I read in a different forum would not further damage the stone. But other stones are just beyond help. And that's so sad. We probably need to start trying to get the information off fading stones while they can still be read. More on that later. Thanks again for your response. Bob Green ----- Original Message ----- From: <RiJe6365@aol.com> To: <PASUSQUE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 4:14 PM Subject: Re: PASUSQUE-D Digest V00 #194 > Bob, > thanks for posting the Newman (or Hasbrouck Hill) cemetery list. > > One name that missing is my great-great-grandmother, Rachel VAN ETTEN. > Supposedly her husband, David VAN ETTEN is buried there too, since we can't > find him anywhere else. > > One of the WEST names, (assuming there is more than one) is Susan WEST, da of > Rachel VANETTEN and first md to Charles H. PRENTICE, then to a WEST. > There may be a few more names that I can come up with later, but looks like > you got most of them. > > Am familiar with the area as I was born, many years ago, just down the road > from the foot of the hill. As a very small child, used tolook out our > kitchen window in the midst of an evenings snowfall at the cars trying to > make the hill in the snow. > > Jeannette. >

Anyone interested in a framed marriage certificate betwen Charles L. Dimmick and Grace Y. Hinton dated Nov 24, 1920 can be found at the Hawley antique Center, 318 Main Ave., Hawley, PA 18428 or email denisbks@ptd.net I saw it there in May... Janet

The Rocket Courier online Newspaper has given me permission to link to their Events site. At the bottom of the site you will see community events and some upcoming Reunions listed. Mary Jean http://www.rocket-courier.com/permanent/comingevent.html http://members.xoom.com/mjwanc/announc.htm >From Cemetery to Tree My Pennsylvania Roots http://home.stny.rr.com/brown/index.htm Researching: Brown, Wilmarth, Tewksbury, Tiffany, Squires, Perry and others.

At 11:52 AM 8/3/00 -0700, you wrote: >Thanks Mary Jean...this was just what I wanted to know. >Lois > Here is an example: marriage index Brown, Edna C. Marriage of Edna C. Brown-Louis S. Tiffany The Montrose Democrat" July 4, 1912 Then I looked on microfilm for that paper and date and this is what I found on my great Aunt. Tiffany–Brown A very pretty, but quiet wedding took place Sunday morning at 10 o'clock, when Miss Edna C. Brown, of Hop Bottom, and Louis S. Tiffany, of Kingsley, were married, by Rev. Dowson, pastor of the Universalist church. The bride was attired in a simple gown of white handkerchief linen, trimmed with Irish crochet and carried white roses. The maid of honor, Miss Vina Quailey, wore pink silk muslin and carried pink roses. After a wedding breakfast served to the immediate family, Mr. And Mrs. Tiffany left in their automobile for New York city, expecting to visit places of interest along the way. On their return trip they will be accompanied by the bride's brother, W. Tracey Brown, who has been attending the New York City Electrical college. Mr. And Mrs. Tiffany will be at home after July 15, in Kingsley. >From Cemetery to Tree My Pennsylvania Roots http://home.stny.rr.com/brown/index.htm Researching: Brown, Wilmarth, Tewksbury, Tiffany, Squires, Perry and others.

Thanks Mary Jean...this was just what I wanted to know. Lois Mary Jean wrote: > At 10:05 AM 8/3/00 -0700, you wrote: > >I also have a question about the newpaper items the Historical Society > has on > >microfilm. Are there many from other surrounding towns outside of Susquehanna > >county? Since the items are from larger newspapers I would think this > might be > >the case. Is anyone available at the society office to do look ups or would > >this be unrealistic? > >Could someone with these answers post them to the list, please? > >Thanks for any help, > >Lois Morgan > >RiJe6365@aol.com wrote: > > > >> So Mary Jean, if I were looking for one or two particular items...I would > >> have to know the approximate date..as there is no index to surname or event > >> or dates, correct? (Susquehanna HX SOC has area newspapers from 1816 > >> microfiched ) > >> > >> Jeannette > > > > > > > >http://home.epix.net/~suspulib/hs.htm > Check out Historical Society Page, it gives fees and what they will do for > you. Mary Jean > > >From Cemetery to Tree > My Pennsylvania Roots > http://home.stny.rr.com/brown/index.htm > Researching: Brown, Wilmarth, Tewksbury, Tiffany, > Squires, Perry and others.

At 10:05 AM 8/3/00 -0700, you wrote: >I also have a question about the newpaper items the Historical Society has on >microfilm. Are there many from other surrounding towns outside of Susquehanna >county? Since the items are from larger newspapers I would think this might be >the case. Is anyone available at the society office to do look ups or would >this be unrealistic? >Could someone with these answers post them to the list, please? >Thanks for any help, >Lois Morgan >RiJe6365@aol.com wrote: > >> So Mary Jean, if I were looking for one or two particular items...I would >> have to know the approximate date..as there is no index to surname or event >> or dates, correct? (Susquehanna HX SOC has area newspapers from 1816 >> microfiched ) >> >> Jeannette > > > >http://home.epix.net/~suspulib/hs.htm Check out Historical Society Page, it gives fees and what they will do for you. Mary Jean >From Cemetery to Tree My Pennsylvania Roots http://home.stny.rr.com/brown/index.htm Researching: Brown, Wilmarth, Tewksbury, Tiffany, Squires, Perry and others.

At 12:47 PM 8/3/00 EDT, you wrote: >So Mary Jean, if I were looking for one or two particular items...I would >have to know the approximate date..as there is no index to surname or event >or dates, correct? (Susquehanna HX SOC has area newspapers from 1816 >microfiched ) > >Jeannette > >The Susquehanna Historical Society has made out 3 x 5 cards on Marriages and Deaths from old Newspapers. Those would give dates and the Newspaper they were extracted from. MJ >From Cemetery to Tree My Pennsylvania Roots http://home.stny.rr.com/brown/index.htm Researching: Brown, Wilmarth, Tewksbury, Tiffany, Squires, Perry and others.