I have a definite trace of my family tree back to George E. Snyder, b 1794 in Northumberland Co., PA George and his wife, Elizabeth Duck (born Union Co), left Northumberland Co and moved to Venango Co., PA about 1830. My ancestors have lived in Venango Co. ever since. We do not have George's parentage figured out and would like to do so. Family tradition has it that we are descended from John Snyder, brother of Simon Snyder, Governor of PA, for whom Snyder County is named. John (known as Black John) actually purchased the Isle of Queue property from which present day Selinsgrove grew. Black John died in a horse race. His estate was administered by Simon and another man. The Isle of Queue ended up being purchased at auction by Anthony Selin, John and Simon's brother-in-law. Black John's heirs sued the Governor for the handling of the estate and this drug on in the courts for years, with judgment going alternately to the heirs and finally to the Governor. This seems to have been settled around 1830 and may have been the 'straw' that caused George to move west to Venango Co. Dates of birth for John and George do not seem to indicate parentage. Information we have indicates that John died before George was born. Our best guess is that George would be John's grandson. Though the dates are tight, it is possible. Any definitive information would be appreciated. Of course, we welcome any and all relatives of George & Elizabeth to make themselves known, as well. Another 'John story' indicates that as a young man during the Revolution, John was in a tavern when a Redcoat made derogatory remarks about the rebels. John beat the Redcoat and was run out of town (Lancaster, PA) at the point of a bayonet. Feedback can be sent to [email protected] Steve Snyder Carlisle PA Steve & Marcy Snyder [email protected] RuraLife www.ruralife.net PFB www.fb.com/pafb Personal www.igateway.com/dialups/sdsnyder