This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mark Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wdB.2ACI/841.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Steve, I think you found the family. This could be indeed a twist of Frank B. to Benjamin Franklin. Since my original message I know now (death certificate of Frank B.) that the father was indeed a John Mark. Selingsgrove was handed down through family tradition, which at times is not too reliable as we both know. Also, you know Benjamin F./Frank B. was born in October 1860 - with other words after the census had been taken. So, the age also checks out - great. If we can't find John in the 1880 Census he must have died early, however I also know now that Benj F. had a much younger sister 'Lottie', born in 1876 - according to a 1930 Census. She lived in the neighboring county Perry, Liverpool Borough. Many thanks for all you help. Could you let me know the reference page, E.D., etc. of the two Censuses. I would greatly appreciate it. Hans-W. Thiele Roswell, GA