This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: charpetersen Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.schuylkill/11379.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The fact that Daniel Zimmerman's family remained in West Penn and his son, Daniel, lives next to Abraham/Noah/Moses in 1880 suggestes a strong relationship. Cordelia may have been a cousin. Another interesting possibility: my mother was always under the impression that Mary Isabella's mothers name was Mary. Mary Shoemaker Zimmerman would have been old enough to be Cordelia's mother. The other possibility is that one of Daniel's brothers (most likely Abraham) married a Mary. Christine Zimmerman is old enough to be the grandma. Your suspicions about the Zimmermans originally coming from Pine Grove may be accurate. Lavina Neifert is Peter Jonathan Shoemaker's mother. Much of her family is from Pine Grove and I'm sure she encouraged his marriage to Mary Isabella. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.