Hi Bill: I know that Sadie's father was John Dieter and mother was Lizzie Geist from her baptismal record. I can't find another on John. Sadie did leave PA and went on the AZ, OH & IN. She was married several other times. I found a Verna that was either in the 1930 census in Snyder co. I believe in the Laurelton Village for Feeble Minded Women. She the right age. I found a Verna A. Spotts on the SSDI, so I have ordered her death cert from PA. Karen P.S. I sure hope you can find something about John Deiter or Dieter! ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com