This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/wl4.2ACEB/495.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: nick~ thank you for the information i think it has lead me somewhere still trying to piece it together but i think the shirley you were referring to is actually a relative to the shirley i am tracing from. thanx! ~ liz