Jo, You can obtain copies of articles from the Allen County Library in Ft. Wayne. PERSI is the index of their holdings. PERSI can be searched on Ancestry, I believe. Last time I ordered copies, it was $7.50 +$.25/page. Response was pretty rapid. Jennifer Clark In a message dated 11/3/2005 1:00:39 PM Central Standard Time, Hogle1@aol.com writes: Jim That information sure helps. I agree that information from the NEHGR is quite trustworthy. So I will accept the 1972 article as clarifying the two Mary Sawtells and make copious notes in my database. Now another question... how do you get copies of the NEHGR? They do not have them here in MN, that I am aware, and I am uncertain where to find them. I know I can subscribe now, but that doesn't give me the back issues. Or does it give you access to them online or something? Thanks for the advice and the clarifiction. Jo Hogle