Hi Lorri, It can be so difficult searching for a name like this... a couple of hints. Do you know her birth year? If so you could actually go on to a search site like ancestry and enter first name Ellen, birth year (you should do the 3-5 year range if that is an option) and birthplace... Ireland. Everyone in Philly on that census with the name Ellen, born in Ireland and the birth year you enter will come up.... yes it's a long shot and could be hundreds but you can browse through and hopefully find her. The other thought is if you know any children or relatives she may have lived with look for them on the census. I had a similar situation and was unable to find a ggg grandfather who I know was born and died there, by doing the above search by James and birth year, I came up with him. James Hudson, but he was listed as James Pludson, you can see how someone not familiar with old hand writing or English could confuse a fancy H with a P L and keep in mind most of these census indexes are completed over seas where English is a second language. Good Luck and let us know what happens!! Stephanie in Oregon -----Original Message----- From: Dorothy Gaunt via Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 2:54 PM To: 'Lorri' ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Philly mystery Hi Lorri It might be well nigh on impossible o ever be really sure what her correct surname was. I have friends whose surname is Burilin but there is no such name historically. They went from Ireland to Liverpool (England) in the 1840s or 50s and were illiterate so their name was probably Burlin or Barlin but if you imagine it pronounced with an Irish accent you can see how it became Burilin They kept the name anyway. Dorothy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lorri via Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 11:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PAPhl] Philly mystery My gggrandmom Ellen Gerin-Gear-Garan? b 1805 in Kerry Ireland, came to America abt 1863? she lived in Phila the rest of her life. I am trying to find her last corect name. 1880 Census syas her name is Ellen Carroll , marr. a john Carrol abt 1878? she is a widow living with her daughter Margaret Smith 1880 nee Gare. Can not find her death date , marr. date ships list. she is not listed on any of her daughter Margaret church records. she is buried in Holy cross, but she was removed to there 1905 from ? thamks for reading. Lorri ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4281/9073 - Release Date: 02/07/15

Hi Stephanie. Thanks for replyin I dont have ancestry, an I trying all the Ellen but the census wont go over 1 thousand an there was abt 3 thousand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephanie Miller via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Philly mystery > Hi Lorri, It can be so difficult searching for a name like this... a > couple > of hints. Do you know her birth year? If so you could actually go on to > a > search site like ancestry and enter first name Ellen, birth year (you > should do the 3-5 year range if that is an option) and birthplace... > Ireland. Everyone in Philly on that census with the name Ellen, born in > Ireland and the birth year you enter will come up.... yes it's a long shot > and could be hundreds but you can browse through and hopefully find her. > The other thought is if you know any children or relatives she may have > lived with look for them on the census. > I had a similar situation and was unable to find a ggg grandfather who I > know was born and died there, by doing the above search by James and birth > year, I came up with him. James Hudson, but he was listed as James > Pludson, > you can see how someone not familiar with old hand writing or English > could > confuse a fancy H with a P L and keep in mind most of these census > indexes > are completed over seas where English is a second language. Good Luck and > let us know what happens!! Stephanie in Oregon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dorothy Gaunt via > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 2:54 PM > To: 'Lorri' ; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Philly mystery > > Hi Lorri > > It might be well nigh on impossible o ever be really sure what her correct > surname was. I have friends whose surname is Burilin but there is no such > name historically. They went from Ireland to Liverpool (England) in the > 1840s or 50s and were illiterate so their name was probably Burlin or > Barlin > but if you imagine it pronounced with an Irish accent you can see how it > became Burilin They kept the name anyway. > > Dorothy > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Lorri via > Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 11:12 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PAPhl] Philly mystery > > My gggrandmom Ellen Gerin-Gear-Garan? b 1805 in Kerry Ireland, came to > America abt 1863? she lived in Phila the rest of her life. I am trying to > find her last corect name. 1880 Census syas her name is Ellen Carroll , > marr. a john Carrol abt 1878? she is a widow living with her daughter > Margaret Smith 1880 nee Gare. Can not find her death date , marr. date > ships > list. she is not listed on any of her daughter Margaret church records. > she > is buried in Holy cross, but she was removed to there 1905 from ? thamks > for > reading. > Lorri > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4281/9073 - Release Date: 02/07/15 > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message