Yes, I have the 1940 census showing she was a patient at the institution; also the 1920 and 1930 censuses, so she was a long-time resident. I also have her 1944 death certificate, stating she died of cerebral hemorrhage, with other conditions being schizophrenia, paranoid type, and that she had been a patient there for over 31 years. It appears she was committed circa 1913. Since the death certificate listed the mental illness by name, I did not follow up with the institution. She died at the institution, but was brought home to be buried in Delaware by her family. Thanks for your interest. On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Antoinette Waughtel Sorensen < [email protected]> wrote: > When I stated I received copies of many pages from the institution in > Indiana, one being her admittance record and stating she died there - > no other record has been found to date, and they refuse to admit she > is buried there - she died there in 1889 so times have changed - > although they do vary from state to state. One thing though have you > found her on the 1940 census. Was she there, or was she still at > home? > Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) > > On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Karen Moore <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I tried some years ago to obtain records on a great aunt who was > committed > > to a psychiatric institution in Maryland. I was not successful; the > > institution cited HIPAA, even though she died in the 1940's. > > > > For more information on HIPAA, go to: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_ > and_Accountability_Act > > or http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/ > > > > For genealogical legal interpretations, see: > > http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2012/02/09/getting-hip-on-hipaa/ and > > http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2013/04/08/breakthrough- > for-medical-genealogy/ > > . > > > > For genealogical requests for psychiactric institutions,see: > > http://www.asylumprojects.org/index.php?title=Asylum_ > Projects_Genealogical_Requests > > > > Start by contacting the Institution directly and see how they respond. > > > > Karen Moore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Ray Rhoads <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> My g g grandfather was at the Harrisburg State Hospital in the late > 1860's > >> early 70's. All they were allowed to give me by law was the fact that he > >> was there. > >> > >> Ray R. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- From: Susan > >> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 8:02 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [PAPhl] norristown state hospital > >> > >> Interesting question, Bill. Wish I new the answer because I also have a > >> relative who spent time there as well. > >> > >> > >> Susan A. > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: PAPHILAD <[email protected]> on > >> behalf of Bill Pallatt <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 12:20:27 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: [PAPhl] norristown state hospital > >> > >> I have some ancestors that spent some time in the hospital. I'm wonder > if > >> it is possible to get copies of their records,if so how does one do it > >> thank you for any help. > >> > >> Bill Pallatt > >> ********* > >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/t > >> h/index/PAPHILAD > >> ********* > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> ********* > >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/t > >> h/index/PAPHILAD > >> ********* > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> ********* > >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/t > >> h/index/PAPHILAD > >> ********* > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > ********* > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > th/index/PAPHILAD > > ********* > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This all "intrigues" me. I am working on my Waughtel family genealogy and many were in/from Pennsylvania. One lady was institutionalized prox 1905 (I'm guessing as I don't have the notebook out) but died there after 1940 - she was in all the census records as being there during that time frame. BUT they had a child (supposedly) in 1925 evidently dying young - I'll have to check my records on this also - I have pictures of the grave markers - other than the grave marker I can find nothing else on this child, a son. Thank you for your patience with me - Antoinette On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Karen Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, I have the 1940 census showing she was a patient at the institution; > also the 1920 and 1930 censuses, so she was a long-time resident. I also > have her 1944 death certificate, stating she died of cerebral hemorrhage, > with other conditions being schizophrenia, paranoid type, and that she had > been a patient there for over 31 years. It appears she was committed circa > 1913. Since the death certificate listed the mental illness by name, I did > not follow up with the institution. She died at the institution, but was > brought home to be buried in Delaware by her family. Thanks for your > interest. > > On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Antoinette Waughtel Sorensen < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> When I stated I received copies of many pages from the institution in >> Indiana, one being her admittance record and stating she died there - >> no other record has been found to date, and they refuse to admit she >> is buried there - she died there in 1889 so times have changed - >> although they do vary from state to state. One thing though have you >> found her on the 1940 census. Was she there, or was she still at >> home? >> Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) >> >> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Karen Moore <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > I tried some years ago to obtain records on a great aunt who was >> committed >> > to a psychiatric institution in Maryland. I was not successful; the >> > institution cited HIPAA, even though she died in the 1940's. >> > >> > For more information on HIPAA, go to: >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_ >> and_Accountability_Act >> > or http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/ >> > >> > For genealogical legal interpretations, see: >> > http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2012/02/09/getting-hip-on-hipaa/ and >> > http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2013/04/08/breakthrough- >> for-medical-genealogy/ >> > . >> > >> > For genealogical requests for psychiactric institutions,see: >> > http://www.asylumprojects.org/index.php?title=Asylum_ >> Projects_Genealogical_Requests >> > >> > Start by contacting the Institution directly and see how they respond. >> > >> > Karen Moore >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Ray Rhoads <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> My g g grandfather was at the Harrisburg State Hospital in the late >> 1860's >> >> early 70's. All they were allowed to give me by law was the fact that he >> >> was there. >> >> >> >> Ray R. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Susan >> >> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 8:02 PM >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: Re: [PAPhl] norristown state hospital >> >> >> >> Interesting question, Bill. Wish I new the answer because I also have a >> >> relative who spent time there as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> Susan A. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: PAPHILAD <[email protected]> on >> >> behalf of Bill Pallatt <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 12:20:27 PM >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: [PAPhl] norristown state hospital >> >> >> >> I have some ancestors that spent some time in the hospital. I'm wonder >> if >> >> it is possible to get copies of their records,if so how does one do it >> >> thank you for any help. >> >> >> >> Bill Pallatt >> >> ********* >> >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/t >> >> h/index/PAPHILAD >> >> ********* >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ********* >> >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/t >> >> h/index/PAPHILAD >> >> ********* >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> PAPHILAD-r[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ********* >> >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/t >> >> h/index/PAPHILAD >> >> ********* >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > ********* >> > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >> th/index/PAPHILAD >> > ********* >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ********* >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >> th/index/PAPHILAD >> ********* >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message