I notice that you joined this list about one minute before posting your diatribe. Doesn't sound to me as if you supported this list in the past and it is the fact that the lists have been pretty much moribund for a long time now that that has resulted in Ancestry deciding they are no longer needed or worth the time and effort to support them. Times change and the resources genealogists use change along with them. I'd urge people who actually DO use this list to use the RootsWeb/Ancestry message board for Philadelphia as an alternative resource. It is fairly active and we have many valuable "helpers" on the board. The boards are archived just like the list and they are free to use. If you want to post on the boards you do need a FREE Ancestry guest account but using the boards is totally free. https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.philadelphia/mb.ashx I'd suggest bookmarking the message board. Joan Young [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Hill <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 2:19 am Subject: [PAPhl] Mailing lists on RootsWeb will be disabled in March 2020 I am not happy about this. I received the following message this morning. Please protest this short-sighted move, if you see fit. Perhaps if they hear from enough us, Ancestry will reverse course. To comment on this betrayal of the genealogical community and the values behind RootsWeb, send your message to [email protected] or contact Ancestry via 1-800-615-6560. For other methods, such as mail, visit https://www.ancestry.com/corporate/contact-us. Aaron J. Hill aaronjhill.wordpress.com From RootsWeb Administration <[email protected]> Tue 1/7/2020 9:36 AM Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails.  Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb. As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this community. Sincerely, The RootsWeb team https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/rootsweb-listowners-announcements.rootsweb.com/thread/35491416/ _______________________________________________ ********* Visit the archives: https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ ********* _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you Joan for saying this! Ancestry has supported the mailing lists for almost twenty years without asking for anything. Very few people are using any of the lists and many of them are dead as a doornail. It is surprising that Ancestry continued for as long as they did. Holly -----Original Message----- From: Joan Young via PAPHILAD <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 9:27 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Joan Young <[email protected]> Subject: [PAPhl] Re: Mailing lists on RootsWeb will be disabled in March 2020 I notice that you joined this list about one minute before posting your diatribe. Doesn't sound to me as if you supported this list in the past and it is the fact that the lists have been pretty much moribund for a long time now that that has resulted in Ancestry deciding they are no longer needed or worth the time and effort to support them. Times change and the resources genealogists use change along with them. I'd urge people who actually DO use this list to use the RootsWeb/Ancestry message board for Philadelphia as an alternative resource. It is fairly active and we have many valuable "helpers" on the board. The boards are archived just like the list and they are free to use. If you want to post on the boards you do need a FREE Ancestry guest account but using the boards is totally free. https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.philadelphia/mb.ashx I'd suggest bookmarking the message board. Joan Young [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Hill <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 2:19 am Subject: [PAPhl] Mailing lists on RootsWeb will be disabled in March 2020 I am not happy about this. I received the following message this morning. Please protest this short-sighted move, if you see fit. Perhaps if they hear from enough us, Ancestry will reverse course. To comment on this betrayal of the genealogical community and the values behind RootsWeb, send your message to [email protected] or contact Ancestry via 1-800-615-6560. For other methods, such as mail, visit https://www.ancestry.com/corporate/contact-us. Aaron J. Hill aaronjhill.wordpress.com From RootsWeb Administration <[email protected]> Tue 1/7/2020 9:36 AM Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb. As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this community. Sincerely, The RootsWeb team https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/rootsweb-listowners-announcements.rootsweb.com/thread/35491416/ _______________________________________________ ********* Visit the archives: https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ ********* _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ********* Visit the archives: https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ ********* _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

not really. Ancestry did mis-management several times. Joan knows as well as I do know. Ever since Randy Winch died, nothing much was done to debug software and move to new servers, resulting in long term shut downs few times. The last big shut down really hurt the most, to the point there were very few posts each day from many lists, causing many listadmins to quit. David Samuelsen On 1/8/2020 8:01 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Thank you Joan for saying this! Ancestry has supported the mailing lists for almost twenty years without asking for anything. Very few people are using any of the lists and many of them are dead as a doornail. It is surprising that Ancestry continued for as long as they did. > > Holly

And you blame it all on Ancestry, whatever or why ever? Not so and Ancestry stuck by Rootsweb in spite of all those problems and those naysayers who screamed how Ancestry would abandon us within months or at best a year or two. -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 11:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PAPhl] Re: Mailing lists on RootsWeb will be disabled in March 2020 not really. Ancestry did mis-management several times. Joan knows as well as I do know. Ever since Randy Winch died, nothing much was done to debug software and move to new servers, resulting in long term shut downs few times. The last big shut down really hurt the most, to the point there were very few posts each day from many lists, causing many listadmins to quit. David Samuelsen On 1/8/2020 8:01 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Thank you Joan for saying this! Ancestry has supported the mailing lists for almost twenty years without asking for anything. Very few people are using any of the lists and many of them are dead as a doornail. It is surprising that Ancestry continued for as long as they did. > > Holly _______________________________________________ ********* Visit the archives: https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ ********* _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

God forbid! I wanted to get the word out. I have been involved with RootsWeb long before Ancestry had anything to do with it. I would like to know how RootsWeb is governed and managed. It is a new era and RootsWeb should become independent again. The fact that you are an Ancestry sycophant and a rude administrator is sad and pathetic. Aaron aaronjhill.wordpress.com ________________________________ From: Joan Young via PAPHILAD <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 6:26 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Cc: Joan Young <[email protected]> Subject: [PAPhl] Re: Mailing lists on RootsWeb will be disabled in March 2020 I notice that you joined this list about one minute before posting your diatribe. Doesn't sound to me as if you supported this list in the past and it is the fact that the lists have been pretty much moribund for a long time now that that has resulted in Ancestry deciding they are no longer needed or worth the time and effort to support them. Times change and the resources genealogists use change along with them. I'd urge people who actually DO use this list to use the RootsWeb/Ancestry message board for Philadelphia as an alternative resource. It is fairly active and we have many valuable "helpers" on the board. The boards are archived just like the list and they are free to use. If you want to post on the boards you do need a FREE Ancestry guest account but using the boards is totally free. https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.philadelphia/mb.ashx I'd suggest bookmarking the message board. Joan Young [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Hill <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 2:19 am Subject: [PAPhl] Mailing lists on RootsWeb will be disabled in March 2020 I am not happy about this. I received the following message this morning. Please protest this short-sighted move, if you see fit. Perhaps if they hear from enough us, Ancestry will reverse course. To comment on this betrayal of the genealogical community and the values behind RootsWeb, send your message to [email protected] or contact Ancestry via 1-800-615-6560. For other methods, such as mail, visit https://www.ancestry.com/corporate/contact-us. Aaron J. Hill aaronjhill.wordpress.com From RootsWeb Administration <[email protected]> Tue 1/7/2020 9:36 AM Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb. As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this community. Sincerely, The RootsWeb team https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/rootsweb-listowners-announcements.rootsweb.com/thread/35491416/ _______________________________________________ ********* Visit the archives: https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ ********* _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ********* Visit the archives: https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ ********* _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I'm sorry to hear the e-mail lists are not going to continue but happy to hear the message boards are active and free. Thanks for that link, Joan! RootsWeb was very beneficial when I first started doing genealogy, long ago now, and it was an amazing volunteer-driven site that I missed when it went down - then I got used to not having it. There are many messages going around that one will have to pay to use the Ancestry message boards, glad to hear that isn't true. On Wednesday, January 8, 2020, 9:27:17 AM EST, Joan Young via PAPHILAD <[email protected]> wrote: I'd urge people who actually DO use this list to use the RootsWeb/Ancestry message board for Philadelphia as an alternative resource. It is fairly active and we have many valuable "helpers" on the board. The boards are archived just like the list and they are free to use. If you want to post on the boards you do need a FREE Ancestry guest account but using the boards is totally free. https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.philadelphia/mb.ashx I'd suggest bookmarking the message board.