I had really good results in a search I requested for my early Philadelphia Archdiocese [Catholic] Record search for Carroll ancestors. They found two baptisms and the marriage, and the correct last name for the wife/mother! ------------------------ From Marriage Register of Old St. Joseph's Church, Philadelphia, PA "1819 [July] 9 Ab Cod Jacobus Carroll & Maria Luisa Deny Testis Nicolaus Hess, Elizabeth Noble & Maria Brown" [any errors in Latin transcription are mine] Translation by Asst. Archivist, Philadelphia Archdiocesan Historical Research Center: July 19, 1819 James Carroll married Mary Louisa Deny Witnesses: Nicholas Hess, Elizabeth Noble,and Mary Brown by Rev. T. McGirr ------------------------ From Baptismal Register of Old St. Joseph's Church, Philadelphia, PA: "1828 [September] 28 ab codem - baptizatus est Jacobus Franciscus Carroll natus 11 - Septembris 1828 - de Jacobo Carroll et Maria Louisa uxore yus - Sponsores furunt Jacobus Flinn & Biddy Gartland -" [any errors in Latin transcription are mine] Translation by Asst. Archivist, Philadelphia Archdiocesan Historical Research Center: James Francis Carroll born September 11, 1828 baptized September 28, 1828 - Old St. Joseph Church Parents: James Carroll and Mary Louise, his wife Sponsors: James Flinn and Biddy Gartland by Rev. S. Cooper ------------------------ From Baptismal Register of St. John the Evangelist Church, Philadelphia, PA: "1833 January 20 Ab codem Joannes C. Carroll - natus 3d [Lusus?] de Jacobo Carroll, et Maria Louisa Denny cc Sponsores Joannes Lyon et Marga- rita Stirin." [any errors in Latin transcription are mine] Translation by Asst. Archivist, Philadelphia Archdiocesan Historical Research Center: John C. Carroll born January 3, 1833 baptized January 20, 1833 - St. John the Evangelist Church Parents: James Carroll and Mary Louisa Denny Sponsors: John Lyon and Margaret Sterin by Rev. John Hughes ------------------------------------ There was another son I know: Francis Edward Carroll born 16 Nov 1830 Philadelphia, PA died 16 Apr 1912 Syracuse, NY The Archdiocesan Assistant Archivist believes he was baptized at Old St. Mary's but the baptismal records from that church dated before 1831 do not exist any longer. ------------------- From other sources I believe James Carroll [Sr.] was born in Ireland, and came to the U.S. from Co. Wexford. ---------------------- I'm still looking for his ship and birthplace, but now I have a better time frame to search! ------------------------------ Jeffrey L. Jernegan ------------------------------ Richmond, VA