In a message dated 01 31 2006 9:09:39 AM, PAPHILAD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Seeking parents and siblings of Walter Black, born November 19, 1882 in Pennsylvania, possibly Philadelphia County. ... He married Elsie M. Stritzel in PA 1909/10 as they were newly weds on the 1910 census in Philadelphia County. ... >> ooooo You may obtain a copy of the 1882 Phila. birth record by requesting it from the city archives. A marriage record may be obtained from Phila. city hall marriage room #415. Read this list's archives for details. You could also read the websites for Register of Wills and city archives for details. Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] botwinick@aol.com botwinick@alumni.rowan.edu MEBotwinick@alumni.temple.edu http://hometown.aol.com/botwinick/myhomepage/index.html