In a message dated 12/11/2005 9:24:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, b_sgun@magicohio.com writes: I need someone to go and take a look for me for a naturalization of a Jacob Alderman/Alterman/Olterman born 1769-1773 in Moravia, Germany. I understand that he could have taken the oath of allegiance or naturalized there in Philadelphia around 1789. How do you "understand" that he could have taken the oath of allegiance around 1789? Where do you "need someone to go and take a look"? Sndtenterprises "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened"