"House keeper" or "keeps house" is commonly used for married women in the census and other records. Similar usage to what we more recently would have called "homemaker." Sorry, I don't have the earlier posts in this thread to check, but thought I'd mention this in case she was married, in the hopes it would save you from trying to chase down a family for whom she worked. Just keep in mind that the term might just signify her marital status. Hope that helps. Claire K seekay@comcast.net On May 28, 2010, at 3:57 PM, bellemarco@gmail.com wrote: > ...Annie Leary... On Phila. death record, she is listed as housekkeeper so she > must have been the housekkeeper for this family.....

Church of The Gesu translates to The Church of The Holy Name of Jesus. It was founded in 1868 and located at 18th and Thompson Sts. The Church of the Gesu (The Holy Name of Jesus) closed in 1993. It is used by St. Joseph's Prep for special events. The Church of the Holy Famly merged into Gesu after that church building was completed. I found this... The foundations of the new Roman Catholic Church of the Gesu, corner of Eighteenth and Stiles Streets, are completed and work upon the structure will begin at once. The Church, when finished, will be one of the largest and handsomest in Philadelphia. The Old Church of the Holy Family will be merged into the large Academy building, now standing on Stiles Street, and to be known as St Joseph's College. And this.... On the bitter cold night of January 30, 1966, disaster struck. A general alarm fire of unknown origin consumed the "Old Prep". This included the original St Joseph's College buildings along Stiles Street which were recycled from the original Church of the Holy Family and the first rectory[2]. If you would like to read the entire article go here... http://www.organistjohn.com/GesuDocs/The_Church_of_the_Gesu.htm another interesting article... http://www.ignatianimprints.org/spring07/philly.shtml Regards, Mary McCanney Finley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Regina Nau" <reginanau@msn.com> To: <paphilad@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 3:32 PM Subject: [PAPhl] Church of the Holy Family > > I am trying to obtain any information on the Church of the Holy Family > that was located at N. 17th and Stiles. Does anyone know anything about > this church. A relative was married there in 1874 and I do find the > priest in the 1874 City Directory, but no information on this church at > the Archdiocese. I know that St. Joe's Prep is at that location now along > with the Church of the Gesu. Was the Church of the Gesu originally known > as the Church of the Holy Family? > > > > Regina > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Regina, Church of the Gesu was once known as the Church of the Holy Family. I found two links that explain the name change: http://www.organistjohn.com/GesuDocs/The_Church_of_the_Gesu.htm http://www.organistjohn.com/GesuDocs/Gesu_Notes_Golden_Jubilee.htm Regards, Mary _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4

You are correct sir. I misread the 1st message and pressed SEND b4 I could catch myself. Whoops! A thousand lashes from the computer gods...   Relatively speaking, ________________________________ From: Eugene Stackhouse <genestackhouse@msn.com> To: paphilad@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 7:17:59 PM Subject: Re: [PAPhl] 1897-98 Philadelphia Directories Widows were listed, married women were not unless they had an occupation or business. Gene Stackhouse in Germantown Heights. > Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 17:09:58 -0700 > From: livinginthepastlane@yahoo.com > To: paphilad@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] 1897-98 Philadelphia Directories > > It's been my experience that some women sans occupation or business have been listed in city directories. It may be that they were newly widowed or had sons who were near adulthood, but I have found a few missing Misses in city directories. >  > Relatively speaking, > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Eugene Stackhouse <genestackhouse@msn.com> > To: paphilad@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 7:04:04 PM > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] 1897-98 Philadelphia Directories > > > Married women who had no occupation nor a business were not listed in the city directories. > > Gene Stackhouse in Germantown Heights. > > > > > > > > > > > From: seekay@comcast.net > > Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 18:39:55 -0400 > > To: paphilad@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] 1897-98 Philadelphia Directories > > > > "House keeper" or "keeps house" is commonly used for married women in the census and other records. Similar usage to what we more recently would have called "homemaker." Sorry, I don't have the earlier posts in this thread to check, but thought I'd mention this in case she was married, in the hopes it would save you from trying to chase down a family for whom she worked. Just keep in mind that the term might just signify her marital status. > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > Claire K > > seekay@comcast.net > > > > > > > > On May 28, 2010, at 3:57 PM, bellemarco@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > ...Annie Leary... On Phila. death record, she is listed as housekkeeper so she > > > must have been the housekkeeper for this family..... > > > > > > > > ********* > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > > ********* > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >                        > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Laura > > Searching for my Schmitt ancestors and their descendants in Lorriane France, Ohio, and Illinois > http://livinginthepastlane.com and a volunteer for RAOGK at http://www.raogk.org/ > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                         ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Laura Searching for my Schmitt ancestors and their descendants in Lorriane France, Ohio, and Illinois http://livinginthepastlane.com and a volunteer for RAOGK at http://www.raogk.org/

It's been my experience that some women sans occupation or business have been listed in city directories. It may be that they were newly widowed or had sons who were near adulthood, but I have found a few missing Misses in city directories.   Relatively speaking, ________________________________ From: Eugene Stackhouse <genestackhouse@msn.com> To: paphilad@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 7:04:04 PM Subject: Re: [PAPhl] 1897-98 Philadelphia Directories Married women who had no occupation nor a business were not listed in the city directories. Gene Stackhouse in Germantown Heights. > From: seekay@comcast.net > Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 18:39:55 -0400 > To: paphilad@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] 1897-98 Philadelphia Directories > > "House keeper" or "keeps house" is commonly used for married women in the census and other records. Similar usage to what we more recently would have called "homemaker." Sorry, I don't have the earlier posts in this thread to check, but thought I'd mention this in case she was married, in the hopes it would save you from trying to chase down a family for whom she worked. Just keep in mind that the term might just signify her marital status. > > Hope that helps. > > Claire K > seekay@comcast.net > > > > On May 28, 2010, at 3:57 PM, bellemarco@gmail.com wrote: > > > ...Annie Leary... On Phila. death record, she is listed as housekkeeper so she > > must have been the housekkeeper for this family..... > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                         ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Laura Searching for my Schmitt ancestors and their descendants in Lorriane France, Ohio, and Illinois http://livinginthepastlane.com and a volunteer for RAOGK at http://www.raogk.org/

I am trying to obtain any information on the Church of the Holy Family that was located at N. 17th and Stiles. Does anyone know anything about this church. A relative was married there in 1874 and I do find the priest in the 1874 City Directory, but no information on this church at the Archdiocese. I know that St. Joe's Prep is at that location now along with the Church of the Gesu. Was the Church of the Gesu originally known as the Church of the Holy Family? Regina _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5

Hello, I am trying to locate the church my mother was baptised in. She lived at 841 South Cecil St. I contacted St. Victoria's, but they said they did not have her record. She would have been baptised in early 1929. Thanks, Dave

John Kennedy of a heart attack while at a theater. Dec. 26, 1896. Buried in Holy Cross cemetery. Husband of Catherine. 1530 Wood st. Notice has been sent to Elaine. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: <bellemarco@gmail.com> To: <paphilad@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 6:42 PM Subject: [PAPhl] A BIG THANK YOU - another question >I want to thank one and all who helped me sort our Annie Foley and as a > bonus her sister Catherine Foley. You listmembers are just SUPER! > > One more quick question. I am trying to find out when Catherine (Foley) > Kennedy's husband John Kennedy died. He was born ca 1840 according to > census records, in Ireland, was in 1880 census and she is a widow in 1900 > census and I can't tell which one is him on FHC site. I am trying to find > out what cemetery he is buried in so I can find out who else is buried > with > him, as that might give me Catherine's (Kate) death date ca 1922. > > Thank you. > Elaine > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2909 - Release Date: 05/31/10 14:25:00

I want to thank one and all who helped me sort our Annie Foley and as a bonus her sister Catherine Foley. You listmembers are just SUPER! One more quick question. I am trying to find out when Catherine (Foley) Kennedy's husband John Kennedy died. He was born ca 1840 according to census records, in Ireland, was in 1880 census and she is a widow in 1900 census and I can't tell which one is him on FHC site. I am trying to find out what cemetery he is buried in so I can find out who else is buried with him, as that might give me Catherine's (Kate) death date ca 1922. Thank you. Elaine

<<<I am trying to find out when Catherine (Foley) Kennedy's husband John Kennedy died. He was born ca 1840 according to census records, in Ireland, was in 1880 census and she is a widow in 1900 census and I can't tell which one is him on FHC site. >>> Elaine, I think this is your John Kennedy. I'm sending you the death notice too. Regards, Mary Name: John Kennedy Death Date: 26 Dec 1896 Death Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Gender: Male Race: white Death Age: 51 years Estimated Birth Year: 1845 Birth Death: Birthplace: Ireland Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Father's Name: Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Mother's Birthplace: Occupation: Machinest Street Address: 1530 Wood Street Place of Residence: Cemetery: Holy Cross Burial Place: Burial Date: 31 Dec 1896 Additional Relatives: Film Number: 1869752 Digital Folder Number: 4009634 Image Number: 219 Reference Number: Collection: Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates, 1803-1915 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4

It sounds to me as though the name Gain was originally something like Gahan or McGahan or Gheen. Census takers and others wrote down names as they heard them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "naig1313" <naig1313@atlantic.net> To: <paphilad@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Obituary Request Genealogybank >I noticed that you had looked up a couple of names for someone and that was > so nice of you. Could I ask something of you also. I know that a faction > of > our family lived in the Philli area and I do not have their first names. > The > surname is GAIN and I wonder if you could take a quick look and see if > that > name appears. > This is not a common name and I hope it will not be too much to ask. > Thanks > a million. Also I wonder is the program you have a good one that you would > recommend. Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <geneslady@ec.rr.com> > To: <paphilad@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Obituary Request Genealogybank > > >> Elaine... >> I didn't find the obits for the 3 you listed....but....there is one for >> Margaret Crilley w/o the late John. I'm sending that in case you can use >> it. >> >> "Philadelphia Inquirer" >> 24 Mar 1885 >> CRILLEY- On the 22d inst. MARGARET, wife of the late John Crilley, in the >> seventy-seventh year of her age. >> The relatives and friends of the family are respectfully invited to >> attend >> her funeral, from her late residence, No. 228 W. Thompson Street, on >> Wednesday afternoon, at 2 o'clock. To proceed to Hanover Street Vault. >> >> Barbara >> in Wilmington, NC >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=LO2eh6f5Go0 >> >> >> ---- "\"E\" Sharp" <bellemarco@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Can someone who has a subcription to Genealogybank please look up the >>> following for me: >>> >>> Michael McBride burial date 10/25/1886 >>> >>> Annie Leary burial date 9/10/1898 >>> >>> John Crilly/Crilley burial date 7/23/1885 >>> >>> Thank you. >>> Elaine Shrp >>> ********* >>> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD >>> ********* >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ********* >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD >> ********* >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2893 - Release Date: 05/24/10 > 02:26:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2909 - Release Date: 05/31/10 > 14:25:00 > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I noticed that you had looked up a couple of names for someone and that was so nice of you. Could I ask something of you also. I know that a faction of our family lived in the Philli area and I do not have their first names. The surname is GAIN and I wonder if you could take a quick look and see if that name appears. This is not a common name and I hope it will not be too much to ask. Thanks a million. Also I wonder is the program you have a good one that you would recommend. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <geneslady@ec.rr.com> To: <paphilad@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Obituary Request Genealogybank > Elaine... > I didn't find the obits for the 3 you listed....but....there is one for > Margaret Crilley w/o the late John. I'm sending that in case you can use > it. > > "Philadelphia Inquirer" > 24 Mar 1885 > CRILLEY- On the 22d inst. MARGARET, wife of the late John Crilley, in the > seventy-seventh year of her age. > The relatives and friends of the family are respectfully invited to attend > her funeral, from her late residence, No. 228 W. Thompson Street, on > Wednesday afternoon, at 2 o'clock. To proceed to Hanover Street Vault. > > Barbara > in Wilmington, NC > > http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=LO2eh6f5Go0 > > > ---- "\"E\" Sharp" <bellemarco@gmail.com> wrote: >> Can someone who has a subcription to Genealogybank please look up the >> following for me: >> >> Michael McBride burial date 10/25/1886 >> >> Annie Leary burial date 9/10/1898 >> >> John Crilly/Crilley burial date 7/23/1885 >> >> Thank you. >> Elaine Shrp >> ********* >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD >> ********* >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2893 - Release Date: 05/24/10 02:26:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2909 - Release Date: 05/31/10 14:25:00

I have a Trinity Oxford tombstone inscription (Trinity Church tombstone records LDS #21590) that reads: "Elizabeth Wright, relict of William Ashton, b 1772 d 1843" This is the ONLY reference to what I think is Elizabeth's maiden name, but I can't find a family for her, and I wonder if there's a mistake? I feel like I've exhausted all the known Wrights in the Philadelphia area and can find no leads. They lived in the Lower Dublin/Oxford area (NE) of Philadelphia. Elizabeth would have married William around 1791-92 when she was about 19-20 years old, but there's no church records. Trinity only intermittently had a minister at that time, so either they didn't marry there, the records were destroyed or don't exist, or someone else married them. I find nothing in available out of state records either. Elizabeth's first son's middle name was KEEN, suggesting that could also be a maiden name, or maybe her mother's maiden name, but I've found no WRIGHT/KEEN connections. And while there's been a couple Ashton/Keen marriages, it hasn't been with William's direct line, or his siblings. The KEEN family also appears to be well-researched. Elizabeth married a second time, after William died, to a man named WHITE. Was it generally "protocol" to list the wife's maiden name when buried with her first husband, after marriage to a second? Could someone have mistakenly carved WRIGHT vice WHITE? Her son Joseph Keen Ashton also married an Elizabeth WRIGHT; if he was the informant, perhaps named were accidentally switched? I should also note that I'm aware families tended to stick together over generations, so 2 generations marrying into the same family (ie Wrights) was pretty normal. But I've investigated this, and can't find a connection. Can anyone help? I'm so frustrated. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Sharon

Researcher looking for Annie Foley Chadwick 1900 Census Ward 15 ED 282 ancestry image 20 2045 Carleton St. Annie Foley 50 Joseph C. Foley 16 Apparently Annie used her maiden name. Jane

You might also consider posting your Chadwick puzzle at http://genforum.genealogy.com/chadwick as Chadwick researchers may find you there faster than finding your post here. I did look and the dozen or so Philly posts there at this point do not seem to be your family. But have you looked for the nephew in the Social Security Death index? That might give you when and where he died to help with an obit search.

First of all I want to thank all the wonderful people on this list who helped me with my Annie Leary research. Unfortunately, through trial and error, we found out she was not a maiden name Foley but a Crilly family member so I am back to step one on her. However, I think I now have the right Annie Foley as we have found her marriage record. She married a William Chadwick in 1889 and a fellow lister found her in the Phila directories 1896-1904. She is listed as widow of William in 1896 directory so he died before that date. I cannot find her on the 1900 census when she should have been living at 1529 Wood Street according to 1889 and 1900 directories. Annie died in March 25, 1906 and we have her obit. In 1910 census,a Joseph Chadwick is living with her sister and is listed as a nephew. Any Chadwick researchers out there? Any and all help appreciated......again, please. Thank you. Elaine Sharp Sacramento, CA

 There is a street named Chadwick , It runs North and South between 16th and 17th in South Phila.Cousin Jack Clifton in sunny Florida ________________________________ From: "bellemarco@gmail.com" <bellemarco@gmail.com> To: paphilad@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 10:11:38 PM Subject: [PAPhl] William Chadwick First of all I want to thank all the wonderful people on this list who  helped me with my Annie Leary research. Unfortunately, through trial and  error, we found out she was not a maiden name Foley but a Crilly family  member so I am back to step one on her. However, I think I now have the  right Annie Foley as we have found her marriage record. She married a  William Chadwick in 1889 and a fellow lister found her in the Phila  directories 1896-1904. She is listed as widow of William in 1896 directory  so he died before that date. I cannot find her on the 1900 census when she  should have been living at 1529 Wood Street according to 1889 and 1900  directories. Annie died in March 25, 1906 and we have her obit. In 1910  census,a Joseph Chadwick is living with her sister and is listed as a  nephew. Any Chadwick researchers out there? Any and all help  appreciated......again, please. Thank you. Elaine Sharp Sacramento, CA ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Our Michael McBride's funeral was from the Cathedral in Oct. 1886. What kind of records, if any, would they have on his burial? How would I go about obtaining these records? Thank you. Elaine Sharp Sacramento CA

Elaine, The death certificate, obituary and cemetery record and if you are lucky enough to have a Funeral Director still in business will all yield more details for you. I have a wonderful inventory from Donahue Funeral Homes, still in business, that details the cost of candles, suit, shirt, tie, etc. for one of mine. I've been wrong before, but I think a funeral record in a parish would only list a name and date. Mary Finley ----- Original Message ----- From: <bellemarco@gmail.com> To: <paphilad@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 1:38 PM Subject: [PAPhl] Cathedral Death Records > Our Michael McBride's funeral was from the Cathedral in Oct. 1886. What > kind of records, if any, would they have on his burial? How would I go > about obtaining these records? > > Thank you. > Elaine Sharp > Sacramento CA > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you, Mary. I do have the obit and cemetery record - not much in either. I am working on obtaining the death certificate. Don't know the name of the funeral home. Elaine