His death certificate will be at the PA Dept of Vital Records in Newcastle, PA. Gene Stackhouse in Germantown Heights. > From: bevjen@bevcomm.net > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:12:13 -0500 > To: paphilad@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Warren M Hartman > > I should have included that Warren Hartman was married to Marie and had a daughter Gladys, He died 2 Feb 1950 in Philadelphia. > > Bonni in MN > > > On Jun 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Bonita Evjen wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I'm new to this list. > > I'm looking for info about Warren M. Hartman. He was born in Oley, Berks Co in 1873, son of Gideon and Sarah D Hartman. I am looking for a burial place. I have his obit and he was buried from Stroud Funeral Home in Philadelphia. Warren worked for Eastman Kodak Co. > > If anyone has info about him and his family or ideas on how I can find where he is buried I would appreciate it > > > > Bonni in MN > > > > > > Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. > > > > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > > > > > > > > ********* > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > > ********* > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. > > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jane, Thanks for the ideas Bonni in MN On Jun 23, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Jane Hamilton wrote: > Bonni, > Seems your best bet for a notice is to write to the Phila. Free Library > with date of death or burial. They now charge $10 for a three request look > up, whether found or not! But if you have two others send them to. > Have you tried Find a Grave? GenWebArchives? Philly obit archives? Just > goggle his name? > Jane > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonita Evjen" <bevjen@bevcomm.net> > To: <paphilad@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Warren M Hartman > > >> I should have included that Warren Hartman was married to Marie and had a >> daughter Gladys, He died 2 Feb 1950 in Philadelphia. >> >> Bonni in MN >> >> >> On Jun 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Bonita Evjen wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I'm new to this list. >>> I'm looking for info about Warren M. Hartman. He was born in Oley, Berks >>> Co in 1873, son of Gideon and Sarah D Hartman. I am looking for a >>> burial place. I have his obit and he was buried from Stroud Funeral Home >>> in Philadelphia. Warren worked for Eastman Kodak Co. >>> If anyone has info about him and his family or ideas on how I can find >>> where he is buried I would appreciate it >>> >>> Bonni in MN >>> >>> >>> Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will >>> deserve neither and lose both. >>> >>> Benjamin Franklin 1759 >>> >>> >>> >>> ********* >>> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD >>> ********* >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve >> neither and lose both. >> >> Benjamin Franklin 1759 >> >> >> >> ********* >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD >> ********* >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2957 - Release Date: 06/23/10 > 02:36:00 Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. Benjamin Franklin 1759

Kate, Thank You for finding that for me. Those mispellings kill you. Bonni in MN On Jun 23, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Kate wrote: > 1930 United States Federal Census > > Name: Gladys C Wartman > Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania > View Map > Age: 12 > Estimated birth year: abt 1918 > Relation to Head of House: Daughter > Father's Name: Warren > Mother's Name: Mary > Race: White > Household Members: > Name Age > Warren Wartman 57 > Mary Wartman 41 > Gladys C Wartman 12 > > Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Roll 2140; Page: 16A; Enumeration District: 503; Image: 203.0. > > > took a while, but found them by finding Gladys- > Kate > > --- On Wed, 6/23/10, Bonita Evjen <bevjen@bevcomm.net> wrote: > > From: Bonita Evjen <bevjen@bevcomm.net> > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Warren M Hartman > To: PAPHILAD@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 3:44 PM > > Kate, > > I have the family on the 1920 census in Philadelphia. I can't find them on the 1930 census, but am assuming they are still there. Warren is my Great Uncle and one of 16 siblings. I'm trying to pin point where each is buried. Warren is # 7. > > Bonni in MN > > > On Jun 23, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Kate wrote: > > > Do you have census records for him and his family? Do you know where any of his family is buried? > > > > Kate > > > > --- On Wed, 6/23/10, Bonita Evjen <bevjen@bevcomm.net> wrote: > > > > From: Bonita Evjen <bevjen@bevcomm.net> > > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Warren M Hartman > > To: paphilad@rootsweb.com > > Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 3:12 PM > > > > I should have included that Warren Hartman was married to Marie and had a daughter Gladys, He died 2 Feb 1950 in Philadelphia. > > > > Bonni in MN > > > > > > On Jun 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Bonita Evjen wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I'm new to this list. > > > I'm looking for info about Warren M. Hartman. He was born in Oley, Berks Co in 1873, son of Gideon and Sarah D Hartman. I am looking for a burial place. I have his obit and he was buried from Stroud Funeral Home in Philadelphia. Warren worked for Eastman Kodak Co. > > > If anyone has info about him and his family or ideas on how I can find where he is buried I would appreciate it > > > > > > Bonni in MN > > > > > > > > > Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. > > > > > > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > > > > > > > > > > > > ********* > > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > > > ********* > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. > > > > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > > > > > > > > ********* > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > > ********* > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. > > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. Benjamin Franklin 1759

Kate, I have the family on the 1920 census in Philadelphia. I can't find them on the 1930 census, but am assuming they are still there. Warren is my Great Uncle and one of 16 siblings. I'm trying to pin point where each is buried. Warren is # 7. Bonni in MN On Jun 23, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Kate wrote: > Do you have census records for him and his family? Do you know where any of his family is buried? > > Kate > > --- On Wed, 6/23/10, Bonita Evjen <bevjen@bevcomm.net> wrote: > > From: Bonita Evjen <bevjen@bevcomm.net> > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Warren M Hartman > To: paphilad@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 3:12 PM > > I should have included that Warren Hartman was married to Marie and had a daughter Gladys, He died 2 Feb 1950 in Philadelphia. > > Bonni in MN > > > On Jun 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Bonita Evjen wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I'm new to this list. > > I'm looking for info about Warren M. Hartman. He was born in Oley, Berks Co in 1873, son of Gideon and Sarah D Hartman. I am looking for a burial place. I have his obit and he was buried from Stroud Funeral Home in Philadelphia. Warren worked for Eastman Kodak Co. > > If anyone has info about him and his family or ideas on how I can find where he is buried I would appreciate it > > > > Bonni in MN > > > > > > Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. > > > > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > > > > > > > > ********* > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > > ********* > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. > > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. Benjamin Franklin 1759

I should have included that Warren Hartman was married to Marie and had a daughter Gladys, He died 2 Feb 1950 in Philadelphia. Bonni in MN On Jun 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Bonita Evjen wrote: > Hi > > I'm new to this list. > I'm looking for info about Warren M. Hartman. He was born in Oley, Berks Co in 1873, son of Gideon and Sarah D Hartman. I am looking for a burial place. I have his obit and he was buried from Stroud Funeral Home in Philadelphia. Warren worked for Eastman Kodak Co. > If anyone has info about him and his family or ideas on how I can find where he is buried I would appreciate it > > Bonni in MN > > > Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. > > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. Benjamin Franklin 1759

Hi I'm new to this list. I'm looking for info about Warren M. Hartman. He was born in Oley, Berks Co in 1873, son of Gideon and Sarah D Hartman. I am looking for a burial place. I have his obit and he was buried from Stroud Funeral Home in Philadelphia. Warren worked for Eastman Kodak Co. If anyone has info about him and his family or ideas on how I can find where he is buried I would appreciate it Bonni in MN Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. Benjamin Franklin 1759

Searching for two Patrick Kelly's in the Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA area; mid 1800's on. First Patrick Kelly, born abt. 1820 IRE., married to Mary Ann DOLAN (1825, Co Galway, IRE--1890, Pittsburgh, PA). Searching for d.o.d., abt. 1853-55 and burial. This couple had two children: 1.) A second Patrick/Patsy Kelly, born abt. 1851-52, PA; married to an Unknown with five children: Mary/May, Stella, two boys names not known, and a fifth child, unknown. Not married according to the 1880 PA Allegheny Co., census. Living w/ mother Mary Ann Dolan who has married a second time (Sep 1856) to Richard HALL (1817, IRE--1875, Pittsburgh). 2.) Mary Anna Kelly, born June 1854, PA--d.o.d. Feb 1908, Pittsburgh, PA. Married to Edward RICE w/ eight children. Surnames of chidlren's spouses include: EMERY STALEY KNEELAND PHILLIPS THOMSON BAIN/GALLAGHER. Sure would like to find out anything about these two mysterious Patrick Kelly's!!! Enjoying sunshine and very warm temps in northeast Ohio. Marybeth C. acmbjc@aol.com

I suggest you go to the LDS website and check out all of the film they have for vital records, you can rent them for about $5. each and read at your local LDS family library. They are very friendly and helpful. Film #978988 "Index of Register of Deaths" was a great help to me I was looking for deaths between 1800 and 1860. Good Luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sndtenterprises@aol.com To: paphilad@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Death and Transportation Record In a message dated 6/15/2010 11:44:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bellemarco@gmail.com writes: Since I now have the exact date of death for our Philip Kline who died in 1858, and he is not listed under FHC death records, what chance do I have of getting a death/transportation records from Phila if I should send monies to order one - of getting one? The Philadelphia City Archives has death records for 1858. Sndtenterprises Genealogical and Historical Research ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2939 - Release Date: 06/15/10 06:35:00

Thank you one and all. I have contacted the Archives and praying a lot! Elaine

In a message dated 6/15/2010 5:13:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, drybones@netreach.net writes: Did Philadelphia keep death records that far back? You may have to find the name of the church he was buried from or a death notice or the name of the cemetery. I thought death records date from sometime in the 1880's. Elizabeth C Philadelphia death records, at the city archives, begin at 1860 through 1903 however there are cemetery returns from 1803. City Hall has wills from 1682.

Did Philadelphia keep death records that far back? You may have to find the name of the church he was buried from or a death notice or the name of the cemetery. I thought death records date from sometime in the 1880's. Elizabeth C bellemarco@gmail.com wrote: > Since I now have the exact date of death for our Philip Kline who died in > 1858, and he is not listed under FHC death records, what chance do I have > of getting a death/transportation records from Phila if I should send > monies to order one - of getting one? > > Elaine > ********* > >

Since I now have the exact date of death for our Philip Kline who died in 1858, and he is not listed under FHC death records, what chance do I have of getting a death/transportation records from Phila if I should send monies to order one - of getting one? Elaine

In a message dated 6/15/2010 11:44:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bellemarco@gmail.com writes: Since I now have the exact date of death for our Philip Kline who died in 1858, and he is not listed under FHC death records, what chance do I have of getting a death/transportation records from Phila if I should send monies to order one - of getting one? The Philadelphia City Archives has death records for 1858. Sndtenterprises Genealogical and Historical Research

Sndtenterprises Genealogical and Historical Research

http://libwww.freelibrary.org/explore/shell.cfm?topicTitle=Genealogy&template=genealogyhand.cfm Larry B. *********************************** > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:43:47 +0000 > From: bellemarco@gmail.com > To: paphilad@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAPhl] Death and Transportation Record > > Since I now have the exact date of death for our Philip Kline who died in > 1858, and he is not listed under FHC death records, what chance do I have > of getting a death/transportation records from Phila if I should send > monies to order one - of getting one? > > Elaine > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3

If it's not in the FHC death records, which include transportations, then the chances aren't too good in my opinion. However, it could be indexed incorrectly, and that's why it's not found there. Do you have his death notice? Or a cemetery record? --- On Tue, 6/15/10, bellemarco@gmail.com <bellemarco@gmail.com> wrote: Since I now have the exact date of death for our Philip Kline who died in  1858, and he is not listed under FHC death records, what chance do I have  of getting a death/transportation records from Phila if I should send  monies to order one - of getting one?

They may not be public records, but Girard merged with Mellon, which split into Mellon and Citizens (I think). A sympathetic officer may be willing to look them up for you. Elizabeth C PhilaResearch@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 6/13/2010 2:40:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > BPLobrano@aol.com writes: > > Does anyone know where the archives of the old Girard Trust Company from > the 1930s would be housed? This is the bank that was where the current > Ritz > Carleton is now located. We are trying to locate my husband's half > > > > Bank records are not public records! > ********* > >

In a message dated 6/13/2010 2:40:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, BPLobrano@aol.com writes: Does anyone know where the archives of the old Girard Trust Company from the 1930s would be housed? This is the bank that was where the current Ritz Carleton is now located. We are trying to locate my husband's half Bank records are not public records!

Does anyone know where the archives of the old Girard Trust Company from the 1930s would be housed? This is the bank that was where the current Ritz Carleton is now located. We are trying to locate my husband's half brother and know that he was born out of wedlock in the mid 1930s and that my husband's father supported the child up until his untimely death in 1942. His banking records may provide a clue as to whom he sent the money to provide for the child. This seems to be our only hope as dective agencies say that without the mother's name it is virtually impossible to locate the child. Please help!

Hi Shelley, I read with interest that you are able to rescue some old family photographs.  That would be terrific if you happen along some SIMPSON family photographs when my SIMPSONs were living in Philadelphia from the 1870s. Would it be possible for you to keep an eye open for this family please? Kindest regards, Michael McAllister