Maybe you have AOL dial-up like me?????? That's what I blame my problem on???? Same as yours?? In a message dated 6/30/2010 6:46:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ydaylily12@yahoo.com writes: What am I doing wrong? Following Claire's instructions, either way I do it I end up on a rather empty page called "treeview example." None of the menu items on the left respond to a click. I'm feeling kinda stupid... Faith ________________________________ From: "bsktbtque@aol.com" <bsktbtque@aol.com> To: paphilad@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 6:08:08 PM Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Philly Historical Deeds Once you open the page, you have to enlarge it...good luck -----Original Message----- From: ltguidetti <ltguidetti@gmail.com> To: paphilad@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jun 30, 2010 5:38 pm Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Philly Historical Deeds Is it me? Or are these impossible to read? Lynn ******** isit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ******** ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lynn, Did you increase the font? My eyes are 71 years old and I could read. Maybe it depends on the era! I was looking at 1800's. I would like to know, once again, what to do with the information garnered there. Mary McCanney Finley ----- Original Message ----- From: "ltguidetti" <ltguidetti@gmail.com> To: <paphilad@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Philly Historical Deeds > Is it me? Or are these impossible to read? > > Lynn > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Once you open the page, you have to enlarge it...good luck -----Original Message----- From: ltguidetti <ltguidetti@gmail.com> To: paphilad@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jun 30, 2010 5:38 pm Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Philly Historical Deeds Is it me? Or are these impossible to read? Lynn ******** isit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ******** ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Is it me? Or are these impossible to read? Lynn

What am I doing wrong?  Following Claire's instructions, either way I do it I end up on a rather empty page called "treeview example." None of the menu items on the left respond to a click.  I'm feeling kinda stupid... Faith ________________________________ From: "bsktbtque@aol.com" <bsktbtque@aol.com> To: paphilad@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 6:08:08 PM Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Philly Historical Deeds Once you open the page, you have to enlarge it...good luck -----Original Message----- From: ltguidetti <ltguidetti@gmail.com> To: paphilad@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jun 30, 2010 5:38 pm Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Philly Historical Deeds Is it me?  Or are these impossible to read? Lynn ******** isit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ******** ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you very much. I found the purchase of my parents' house in 1945, so now I feel all things are possible. Printing part of the document is very difficult, however/ It may be easier for others. Elizabeth C Claire K wrote: > Philadelphia grantor-grantee indexes are here, in a relatively clunky interface. > http://philadox.phila.gov/phillyhistoricalindex/index.html > > Or, go to http://philadox.phila.gov/picris/Login.jsp -- click "I Acknowledge" at the bottom of the page, then click "Link to Historical Index Info" at the bottom of the left column on the next page. (You do NOT need to log in, or subscribe). > > In either event, choose either Grantor or Grantee, the century, the year, then the last name-first name initials (so, "A G" is last name begins with "A," first name begins with "G"), and browse to your heart's content. > > Hope this helps. > Claire K. > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Geo Locke wrote: > > >> ...I am quite familiar with researching grantor-grantee indexes in other states, but as of yet have not found the equivalent in Pa. ... >> > Claire K > seekay@comcast.net > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Philadelphia grantor-grantee indexes are here, in a relatively clunky interface. http://philadox.phila.gov/phillyhistoricalindex/index.html Or, go to http://philadox.phila.gov/picris/Login.jsp -- click "I Acknowledge" at the bottom of the page, then click "Link to Historical Index Info" at the bottom of the left column on the next page. (You do NOT need to log in, or subscribe). In either event, choose either Grantor or Grantee, the century, the year, then the last name-first name initials (so, "A G" is last name begins with "A," first name begins with "G"), and browse to your heart's content. Hope this helps. Claire K. On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Geo Locke wrote: > ...I am quite familiar with researching grantor-grantee indexes in other states, but as of yet have not found the equivalent in Pa. ... Claire K seekay@comcast.net

Thanks all. I did find the page last night and you are correct, it is well hidden. At first I was too focused on the part of the main page that asks fees to access the sight, but then I saw the reference to the historical index. I'm in like flynn now. I saved a link directly to the index page: http://philadox.phila.gov/phillyhistoricalindex/index.html I tested this on a different computer than the one I initially logged in with and it seems to work, so give it a try. If it doesn't work, then the regular sign in is still an option. It is probably best to click on the "I agree" the first time in anyway. I did find my estate sale information last night, so now all I have to do is request a copy of that deed and we'll see where that takes me. Thanks a lot for the help! -geo George F. Locke Researching the family of John Lock, of Philadelphia, abt 1700-1780

They hide it well, I can't give a direct link because the page requires you to click an agreement but go to this page: _http://www.phila.gov/Records/GeneralInformation/OnlineApplications.html_ (http://www.phila.gov/Records/GeneralInformation/OnlineApplications.html) Then select view old and new deeds. After you click the acknowledge on the left side of the page is the link to the historic deed index. Liz Harrison In a message dated 6/28/2010 1:26:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, larzemail@yahoo.com writes: Do you have a link to the historic index? I have tried finding it without success. Thank you. --- On Mon, 6/28/10, LHTravellerRoots@aol.com <LHTravellerRoots@aol.com> wrote: The city web site has a deed index. There is a charge for searching current deeds but if you click on the historic deed link it is free. ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The deed office is in City Hall, 19107. Gene Stackhouse in Germantown Heights. > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:11:19 -0400 > From: geolocke@earthlink.net > To: paphilad@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAPhl] Researching Estate Sales: FOWLER, LOCK, TALBOTT, HOLGATE, DEVER (DAVER?), SMITH > > Hello List. I am trying to find my way around researching Land Sales in the Philly area. I have a will of a great Ancestor from 1790, Susannah FOWLER, who asks that her "dwelling house and lott in South Wark" (Southwark) be sold and the proceeds divided equally among her six (6) grandchildren, named as follows: > William Oakley LOCK; Benjamin Robinson TALBOTT, Susannah HOLGATE, Susannah DEVER (DAVER?), Mary Fowler SMITH, and Sarah FOWLER. > > Deeds for estate sales often hold clues to family ties, and I am quite familiar with researching grantor-grantee indexes in other states, but as of yet have not found the equivalent in Pa. I have visited The Pa Archives web site and have searched through the Patent Indexes, as well as the Warrant indexes, and I *think* I have the gist of things, but I am not finding a record for the sale of this lot in Southwark from the heirs of Susannah Fowler. > > Does anyone have any suggestions to help point me in the right direction? > > Thanks! > > -geo > > George F. Locke > Researching the family of John Lock, of Philadelphia, abt 1700-1780 > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The city web site has a deed index. There is a charge for searching current deeds but if you click on the historic deed link it is free. Liz Harrison In a message dated 6/28/2010 1:12:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, geolocke@earthlink.net writes: Hello List. I am trying to find my way around researching Land Sales in the Philly area. I have a will of a great Ancestor from 1790, Susannah FOWLER, who asks that her "dwelling house and lott in South Wark" (Southwark) be sold and the proceeds divided equally among her six (6) grandchildren, named as follows: William Oakley LOCK; Benjamin Robinson TALBOTT, Susannah HOLGATE, Susannah DEVER (DAVER?), Mary Fowler SMITH, and Sarah FOWLER. Deeds for estate sales often hold clues to family ties, and I am quite familiar with researching grantor-grantee indexes in other states, but as of yet have not found the equivalent in Pa. I have visited The Pa Archives web site and have searched through the Patent Indexes, as well as the Warrant indexes, and I *think* I have the gist of things, but I am not finding a record for the sale of this lot in Southwark from the heirs of Susannah Fowler. Does anyone have any suggestions to help point me in the right direction? Thanks! -geo George F. Locke Researching the family of John Lock, of Philadelphia, abt 1700-1780 ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: h ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List. I am trying to find my way around researching Land Sales in the Philly area. I have a will of a great Ancestor from 1790, Susannah FOWLER, who asks that her "dwelling house and lott in South Wark" (Southwark) be sold and the proceeds divided equally among her six (6) grandchildren, named as follows: William Oakley LOCK; Benjamin Robinson TALBOTT, Susannah HOLGATE, Susannah DEVER (DAVER?), Mary Fowler SMITH, and Sarah FOWLER. Deeds for estate sales often hold clues to family ties, and I am quite familiar with researching grantor-grantee indexes in other states, but as of yet have not found the equivalent in Pa. I have visited The Pa Archives web site and have searched through the Patent Indexes, as well as the Warrant indexes, and I *think* I have the gist of things, but I am not finding a record for the sale of this lot in Southwark from the heirs of Susannah Fowler. Does anyone have any suggestions to help point me in the right direction? Thanks! -geo George F. Locke Researching the family of John Lock, of Philadelphia, abt 1700-1780

Do you have a link to the historic index? I have tried finding it without success. Thank you. --- On Mon, 6/28/10, LHTravellerRoots@aol.com <LHTravellerRoots@aol.com> wrote: The city web site has a deed index.  There is a charge for searching  current deeds but if you click on the historic deed link it is free.

At 12:01 AM 6/25/2010, you wrote: > Bonnie is seeking data on a 1950 burial from Stroud's funeral home. > While not finding the cemetery, did locate J. Harry Stroud, funeral home, >at 503 N. 63rd st. in 1915 and 1922. > An obituary of 1951 Stroud was at 200/02 N 63rd. > Anyone know of records for this home or if it could have been > sold to another >company? >Thanks, Jane Funeral homes are wonderful sources of information; but lately because of identity theft they have become more careful of sharing their records. I have had the best results by contacting the funeral home first by phone to determine if they have records for the time frame I'm searching (usually earlier than 1950.) These records are privately owned by the home and may go with the former owners if the home sells. If the home does not have the records for reasons other than catastrophe, they may know where they went. Or suggest another home in the area. When I have found the right funeral home, I thank them and say I will be sending a letter. The letter is business-like, of course and concise. I begin by saying I am a family historian researching the family of (whomever) and believe their home may have served the family. I provide all of the vital information that I know about the individual, or individuals. - birthdate, death date, spouse, children etc, even SS# if I have it. I request copies of their records and note that I am enclosing a check for their trouble. (Usually $5 for 1 or 2 individuals, $10 or more for 3 or more.) and an SASE (self-addressed, stamped envelope - of course) for their convenience. Close with sincere thanks for their help. Some of the results I've had include, extra research done by the funeral home to include newspaper clippings, cemetery photos and letters given to local researchers (I make donations to their genealogy library). Nearly all of the time the check is returned by the home - but if it isn't, but you get information it is still a bargain :-) Good luck! JoAnn

Funeral Home records are the private property of the funeral home. It is possible that they could have been donated to the Historical Society of Pennsylvania or the Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania. Look on-line for the funeral home. Most now have Web pages.    Gene Stackhouse           ----- Original Message ---- From: Faith Smith <ydaylily12@yahoo.com> To: paphilad@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 1:04:02 AM Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Stroud funeral home Funeral homes are licensed by the state. Health deprtment maybe?  perhaps you can find out from them where records might be found.  If you have a cemetery name, try contacting the office.  seems like someone there would know what happened to it.. I googled the address and found Morrones Water Ice Inc (215) 747-2909 200 N 63rd St Philadelphia PA 19139 The city public property/real estate records would have a record of real estate transactions, generally indexed by name of seller and buyer.  The real estate tax office might tell you the current owner's name and address as well. don't know how much of this can be done by phone.  Maybe some kind soul who lives in the area could help... good luck, Faith S. Fredericksburg va   ________________________________ From: Jane Hamilton <rhamilton26@tampabay.rr.com> To: paphilad@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 10:50:24 AM Subject: [PAPhl] Stroud funeral home   Bonnie is seeking data on a 1950 burial from Stroud's funeral home.   While not finding the cemetery, did locate J. Harry Stroud, funeral home, at 503 N. 63rd st. in 1915 and 1922.   An obituary of 1951 Stroud was at 200/02 N 63rd.   Anyone know of records for this home or if it could have been sold to another company? Thanks, Jane ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Funeral homes are licensed by the state. Health deprtment maybe?  perhaps you can find out from them where records might be found.  If you have a cemetery name, try contacting the office.  seems like someone there would know what happened to it.. I googled the address and found Morrones Water Ice Inc (215) 747-2909 200 N 63rd St Philadelphia PA 19139 The city public property/real estate records would have a record of real estate transactions, generally indexed by name of seller and buyer.  The real estate tax office might tell you the current owner's name and address as well. don't know how much of this can be done by phone.  Maybe some kind soul who lives in the area could help... good luck, Faith S. Fredericksburg va   ________________________________ From: Jane Hamilton <rhamilton26@tampabay.rr.com> To: paphilad@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 10:50:24 AM Subject: [PAPhl] Stroud funeral home   Bonnie is seeking data on a 1950 burial from Stroud's funeral home.   While not finding the cemetery, did locate J. Harry Stroud, funeral home, at 503 N. 63rd st. in 1915 and 1922.   An obituary of 1951 Stroud was at 200/02 N 63rd.   Anyone know of records for this home or if it could have been sold to another company? Thanks, Jane ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bonnie is seeking data on a 1950 burial from Stroud's funeral home. While not finding the cemetery, did locate J. Harry Stroud, funeral home, at 503 N. 63rd st. in 1915 and 1922. An obituary of 1951 Stroud was at 200/02 N 63rd. Anyone know of records for this home or if it could have been sold to another company? Thanks, Jane

I found this online from a death notice in the 1960's: J. Harry Stroud Funeral Home, 600-02 N. 63rd St. Regards, Mary _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2

I am looking for info about a Stroud Funeral Home in Philadelphia. A relative was buried from that Funeral Home in 1950. Does anyone know what happened to it????? Bonni in MN Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. Benjamin Franklin 1759

Jane, The obit notice I have is from the Reading Eagle. His family was from the Reading area. The obit notice names the funeral home but not the Cemetery. He is not buried in the same cemetery as his parents. I've checked there. I don't know whee the wife is buried. Would Stroud Funeral home still be operating??? Would there be able to help??? Bonni in MN On Jun 23, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Jane Hamilton wrote: > Bonnie, > Just dawned on me, you have the obit notice!!!!!! I searched for his in the various sites to no avail. > Have you tried LDS for a film of this undertakers' burials? Do you know where the wife is buried? Or perhaps > his parents? > Jane > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonita Evjen" <bevjen@bevcomm.net> > To: <PAPHILAD@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Warren M Hartman > > >> Jane, >> >> Thanks for the ideas >> >> Bonni in MN >> On Jun 23, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Jane Hamilton wrote: >> >>> Bonni, >>> Seems your best bet for a notice is to write to the Phila. Free Library >>> with date of death or burial. They now charge $10 for a three request look >>> up, whether found or not! But if you have two others send them to. >>> Have you tried Find a Grave? GenWebArchives? Philly obit archives? Just >>> goggle his name? >>> Jane >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonita Evjen" <bevjen@bevcomm.net> >>> To: <paphilad@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Warren M Hartman >>> >>> >>>> I should have included that Warren Hartman was married to Marie and had a >>>> daughter Gladys, He died 2 Feb 1950 in Philadelphia. >>>> >>>> Bonni in MN >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Bonita Evjen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I'm new to this list. >>>>> I'm looking for info about Warren M. Hartman. He was born in Oley, Berks >>>>> Co in 1873, son of Gideon and Sarah D Hartman. I am looking for a >>>>> burial place. I have his obit and he was buried from Stroud Funeral Home >>>>> in Philadelphia. Warren worked for Eastman Kodak Co. >>>>> If anyone has info about him and his family or ideas on how I can find >>>>> where he is buried I would appreciate it >>>>> >>>>> Bonni in MN >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will >>>>> deserve neither and lose both. >>>>> >>>>> Benjamin Franklin 1759 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ********* >>>>> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD >>>>> ********* >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve >>>> neither and lose both. >>>> >>>> Benjamin Franklin 1759 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ********* >>>> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD >>>> ********* >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2957 - Release Date: 06/23/10 >>> 02:36:00 >> >> >> >> Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. >> >> Benjamin Franklin 1759 >> >> >> >> ********* >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD >> ********* >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2957 - Release Date: 06/23/10 02:36:00 Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. Benjamin Franklin 1759