Hi Jenni, I thought I'd do some quick lookups for you, but had no luck. I thought Bridget might have died between the c. 1917 draft card and the 1920 census -- and GenealogyBank.com has the Philadelphia Inquirer newspaper digitized through 1922. No luck with Bridget Deeney, Deeny, or Deney. (A couple of Bridgets, but one died in 1880, the other was married to someone else / with other kids). You don't mention Archibald after 1920, so I thought he might have died. No luck with Archibald Deeney, Deeny, or Deney. You say John died in Nov. 1961, but the Social Security Death Index (also on GenealogyBank) doesn't have a match, so that was no help. There were other John Deeneys, including more modern obits -- but none that look like your Deeneys. In 1920, Archibald is 44, so in 1930 he should be 54 -- and presumably Bridget would be in her late 40s or 50s, too -- but you didn't find either of them in the US census. They're a little on the young side to have died (not impossible, of course, but odd that both would die so young), so have you considered that they might have gone back to Ireland? Could Archibald have gone back to take over the family farm? (Assuming you know where the family is from, and that it's farm country, you could look into land records at the Valuation Office, etc.). You say Archibald emigrated in 1909, but the first sign you have of Bridget emigrating is c. 1917 -- have you looked for her in the 1911 Irish census? (Online, free, from the National Archives of Ireland -- http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ ). The 1901 census is there, too, in case you don't have the family's entry (i.e., before Archibald emigrated). Have you found Bridget and the kids on a ship's list? Here's hoping someone else had better luck looking for your Deeneys... Sorry! Regards, Claire K. On Dec 5, 2010, at 2:49 AM, Jenni Gibson wrote: > ...Archibald Deeny married Bridget Daly in Derry, Northern Ireland in 1895. Two sons were born in Derry, William Deeny in 1896 and John Deeny in 1898. > > Archibald Deeny emigrated to the USA, arriving in New York in 1909... WW1 Draft cards...he is living on North 13th Street, PA. His next of kin is his wife Bridget, of the same address. > > Archibald DENEY appears on the 1920 US census as a 44 year old street car driver. He is married but ...no sign of Bridget. > ...John Deeny died in Philadelphia, PA in November 1961. >

Hi Jenni, How much do you know about Bridget Daly? I have a Bridget Daly b. 1 Feb. 1870 Loughmacrory, Co. Tyrone (father Owen/Eugene, a schoolteacher; mother Roseann nee Kelly), but the only data I have on Bridget is her birth. I can't find any of the family in the 1901 Irish census. I know that my Bridget's sister Rose Ann Daly (b. 1868) emigrated to Philadelphia c. 1890-1893, where she married in 1895 Bernard Carlin (Carolan) -- they were my ancestors. Bridget and Rose Ann's brother Joseph Daly (b. 1871) also emigrated to Philadelphia, in 1898. I haven't been able to trace what happened to the other siblings -- Patrick (1864), Mary (1865), Eliza(beth?) (1867), Bridget (1870), Catherine (1872) and James (1875). Since I can't find (or, at least, positively identify) any of them in the 1901 Irish census, I'm thinking more than just the two I know about may have emigrated. Do you know where in Derry they married? The city of Derry is, as you may know, fairly close to Loughmacrory, Co. Tyrone (and with the father being a schoolteacher, I've long thought the family may have moved around a bit). The county of Derry, OTOH, stretches out over a lot of territory, so the specific location may not be all that close to Loughmacrory / Carrickmore, and this may just be a red herring (or unjustified optimism on my part). With the dates and locations (Irish and US) being so close, I thought maybe your Bridget could be my missing Bridget. Do you have any other info on your Bridget (or her siblings) that would help confirm or refute the possibility? Here's hoping... Claire K. On Dec 5, 2010, at 2:49 AM, Jenni Gibson wrote: > ...Archibald Deeny married Bridget Daly in Derry, Northern Ireland in 1895. Two sons were born in Derry, William Deeny in 1896 and John Deeny in 1898. > > Archibald Deeny emigrated to the USA, arriving in New York in 1909... WW1 Draft cards ...he is living on North 13th Street, [Philadelphia], PA. His next of kin is his wife Bridget, of the same address. > ...

I wonder if they are referring to a Sanatorium where folks who came thru the port were sent to recover from or be certified as free of different diseases we don't even see any more. And I'm thinking specifically of leperosy because he came from Hawaii and seems to me that in that time frame it was a problem in the Hawaiian Islands (Catholic School upbringing is leaking thru here cause Father Damian set up hospitals and refuges on Molokai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Damien) I googled it but didn't find anything but it's certainly worth researching. Maybe call the Free Library - central branch and use their lookup service? Beth Cherkowsky -----Original Message----- From: paphilad-request <paphilad-request@rootsweb.com> To: paphilad <paphilad@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Dec 6, 2010 3:10 am Subject: PAPHILAD Digest, Vol 5, Issue 151 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you re replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to hange the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject o which you are replying. oday's Topics: 1. Anyone Ever Hear of this Place? (dkkm59@comcast.net) 2. Re: Connecting Family (Alexa) 3. Re: Anyone Ever Hear of this Place? (Laurie) 4. Re: Anyone Ever Hear of this Place? (Nrtennison@aol.com) 5. Re: Anyone Ever Hear of this Place? (Girt@aol.com) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 11:56:06 +0000 (UTC) rom: dkkm59@comcast.net ubject: [PAPhl] Anyone Ever Hear of this Place? o: PHILLY-ROOTS-L <PHILLY-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com>, PAPHILAD-L <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> essage-ID: <190639292.214586.1291550166831.JavaMail.root@sz0067a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Everyone, ?? Has anyone ever heard of a place called "Skull Island" ?? I have been trying to trace my Hawaiian Grandfather, David KAHANA, born: 26 Feb. 1894, Honuapo, Kau District, Hawaii Island, Kingdom f Hawaii - died: 31 December 1952, Philadelphia, PA. I have been talking to a family member and was told that Grandpop Dave and 4 ther Hawaiians, came to the US mainland in 1910 through New York, were turned way, then tried to enter through the Port of Baltimore, and were turned away gain. When they entered through the Port of Philadelphia, they were sent to omeplace called Skull Island. I was told "that was were they sent Hawaiians". I on't know who 'they' were or why only 'Hawaiians' would be sent there. I have US Civil Service papers from the NARA, that states Grandpop Dave arrived n the US in August of 1910, and that he entered through the Port of hiladelphia. I have not yet done any research for other ports yet, so I have ot verified this info yet. Thanks in advance. -- ee Kaelin Maialetti hiladelphia, Pa. ************* istowner: KAELIN-L *************** aelin Ancestry Page ttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kaelin/index.html *************** enealogy Blog: Looking Into The Past ttp://lookingintothepast.blogspot.com/ *************** emetery Photography Blog: Perspectives ttp://perspectively.blogspot.com/

I'm wondering if it could have been a misunderstanding of "Schuylkill Island" which may have been an immigration station at that time?

There was a "Skull Island" in the North Atlantic?? Between Halifax, Nova Scotia and the U.K. late 1800's. Need more info what your looking for?????? In a message dated 12/5/2010 5:51:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, larzemail@yahoo.com writes: I've never heard of this, but that certainly doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The immediate thought that came to mind though is that maybe it was Schuylkill? I googled it, and there was a Schuylkill Island, though I've no idea if it was related to immigration. --- On Sun, 12/5/10, dkkm59@comcast.net <dkkm59@comcast.net> wrote: > Has anyone ever heard of a place called "Skull Island" ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've never heard of this, but that certainly doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The immediate thought that came to mind though is that maybe it was Schuylkill? I googled it, and there was a Schuylkill Island, though I've no idea if it was related to immigration. --- On Sun, 12/5/10, dkkm59@comcast.net <dkkm59@comcast.net> wrote: >    Has anyone ever heard of a place called "Skull Island"

Hi Everyone,    Has anyone ever heard of a place called "Skull Island"    I have been trying to trace my Hawaiian Grandfather, David KAHANA, born: 26 Feb. 1894, Honuapo, Kau District, Hawaii Island, Kingdom of Hawaii - died: 31 December 1952, Philadelphia, PA. I have been talking to a family member and was told that Grandpop Dave and 4 other Hawaiians, came to the US mainland in 1910 through New York, were turned away, then tried to enter through the Port of Baltimore, and were turned away again. When they entered through the Port of Philadelphia, they were sent to someplace called Skull Island. I was told "that was were they sent Hawaiians". I don't know who 'they' were or why only 'Hawaiians' would be sent there. I have US Civil Service papers from the NARA, that states Grandpop Dave arrived in the US in August of 1910, and that he entered through the Port of Philadelphia. I have not yet done any research for other ports yet, so I have not verified this info yet. Thanks in advance. -- Dee Kaelin Maialetti Philadelphia, Pa. ************** Listowner: KAELIN-L **************** Kaelin Ancestry Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kaelin/index.html **************** Genealogy Blog: Looking Into The Past http://lookingintothepast.blogspot.com/ **************** Cemetery Photography Blog: Perspectives http://perspectively.blogspot.com/

Sharon, just think how much value that $15 was to you.  Eight years' worth of knowledge!  To get the information, you maybe would have waited those eight long years.  This is how I always look at this type of situation, which I have also encountered. I wish you success in finding those elusive ancestors. I'm just reading your posts now and found your experiences interesting. Alexa Genealogy research since 1975 --- On Thu, 12/2/10, Shadonkd35@aol.com <Shadonkd35@aol.com> wrote: From: Shadonkd35@aol.com <Shadonkd35@aol.com> Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Connecting Family To: paphilad@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 10:06 AM Thank you for that cemetery link to the New Cathedral Cemetery.  Those  are definitely my Brady and James Collopy.  About 8 years ago I found the  obit for James Collopy which then gave me the cemetery name.  I contacted  that cemetery and paid $15 for that same information that is now on the web site  to access for free. Oh well that is the way things go.  But I will keep the web link for  future use in researching the Brady family. Thanks again Sharon In a message dated 12/2/2010 10:09:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  tmj@astro.as.utexas.edu writes: Here is  an interesting link, has Brady and Collopy families  listed: http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/philadelphia/cemeteries/newcathedral.txt On  12/2/10 7:35 AM, "Shadonkd35@aol.com" <Shadonkd35@aol.com>  wrote: >  > Yes, that is correct. Catherine Collopy is  living with the Dorn  family. >  > Catherine married  sometime after 1880 to Michael Brady. The father of > Catherine, James  Collopy, was living with the Brady's when he died in  1891. > The  mother, Ann Casey Collopy, is totally gone from the family by   some > unknown date for unknown reasons. Ann Casey is deceased before  1891,  because > James Collopy is listed as a widower on his death  certificate. >  > Here is the story from the  family. >  > Catherine's two  brothers, William Collopy  and John Collopy, spend  some > unknown amount of time in an  orphanage in Philadelphia.  The two  brothers > were taken  from the orphanage by  a family named Garber and moved  to  Chester > County.  William moved back and forth from Chester County  to  Phila. all his > life.  William spent time traveling  west.  John  remained in Chester County > for the rest of his  life.  As far as  Catherine is concerned, was she ever > in an  orphanage? I don't  know.  Did the DORN  family take Catherine  from an > orphanage and provide her with their home as a border and  servant?  Very > possible. >  > I do not know  what years they spent in the orphanage.  I do not know  why >  they were put in the orphanage except for speculation.  Did   Ann  die and > James could not take care of he children?  Did  Ann leave the home  for unknown > reasons?  One old time  relative told me that Ann was a bag  lady.  whatever t > hat  may be in relation to the late 19th century. >  > John  Collopy is my great grandfather. >  > I suspect my best  search will be the Catholic Church since they  were Irish >  Catholic to find documented data connecting mother Ann to   daughter > Catherine. >  > Thank you >  Sharon >  > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of  this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD >  ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from  the list, please send an email to > PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with  the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body  of the message > ********* Visit the threaded archives of  this list:  http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes  in the subject and the body of the  message ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello listers,   I am trying to research the following DEENY/DEENEY/DENEY family.   Archibald Deeny married Bridget Daly in Derry, Northern Ireland in 1895. Two sons were born in Derry, William Deeny in 1896 and John Deeny in 1898.   Archibald Deeny emigrated to the USA, arriving in New York in 1909 where he was to visit his cousin, James Walker, who lived on North Alder St, Philadelphia.   Archibald appears on the 1910 US census living as a boarder in Philadelphia.  He states he is married but there is no sign of Bridget or his sons.     The next mention of Archibald Deeney is on the WW1 Draft cards when he is living on North 13th Street, PA.  His next of kin is his wife Bridget, of the same address.    Archibald DENEY appears on the 1920 US census as a 44 year old street car driver.  He is married but again, there is no sign of Bridget. He is living on North 13th Street with his 21 year old son, John DENEY, a newspaper engineer.   On the 1920 US census, I have located a William Deeney, aged 22, living in Manhattan, New York.  Born in Ireland, he was a lodger and his occupation was a labourer.   On the 1930 US census, living in Manhattan, New York,  I have located John Deeny (born ca 1898 in Ireland), his wife Katie (born ca 1899 in Ireland) and sons Joseph (born ca 1924 in Ireland) and James (born ca 1927 in New York).  John Deeny died in Philadelphia, PA in November 1961.   Is there anyone out there with further information or connections to this family?  Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.   Thank you,   Jenni Gibson (Melbourne, Australia)

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I have all the Travis McGee books. Some are hardbound, some soft, 9 are in 3 volumes, and 1 is in with 2 other books. I am getting rid of all of them. Let me know which you might want. Elizabeth C

The New Cathedral site that Tim provided is very interesting. You might consider contacting Loretta A. Wallace (LadyBrvHrt@aol.com) - the person who contributed the Brady / Collopy info, to see if she has any more on your relatives! -----Original Message----- From: Shadonkd35 <Shadonkd35@aol.com> To: paphilad <paphilad@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Dec 2, 2010 11:07 am Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Connecting Family Thank you for that cemetery link to the New Cathedral Cemetery. Those are definitely my Brady and James Collopy. About 8 years ago I found the obit for James Collopy which then gave me the cemetery name. I contacted that cemetery and paid $15 for that same information that is now on the web site to access for free. Oh well that is the way things go. But I will keep the web link for future use in researching the Brady family. Thanks again Sharon In a message dated 12/2/2010 10:09:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tmj@astro.as.utexas.edu writes: Here is an interesting link, has Brady and Collopy families listed: http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/philadelphia/cemeteries/newcathedral.txt On 12/2/10 7:35 AM, "Shadonkd35@aol.com" <Shadonkd35@aol.com> wrote: > > Yes, that is correct. Catherine Collopy is living with the Dorn family. > > Catherine married sometime after 1880 to Michael Brady. The father of > Catherine, James Collopy, was living with the Brady's when he died in 1891. > The mother, Ann Casey Collopy, is totally gone from the family by some > unknown date for unknown reasons. Ann Casey is deceased before 1891, because > James Collopy is listed as a widower on his death certificate. > > Here is the story from the family. > > Catherine's two brothers, William Collopy and John Collopy, spend some > unknown amount of time in an orphanage in Philadelphia. The two brothers > were taken from the orphanage by a family named Garber and moved to Chester > County. William moved back and forth from Chester County to Phila. all his > life. William spent time traveling west. John remained in Chester County > for the rest of his life. As far as Catherine is concerned, was she ever > in an orphanage? I don't know. Did the DORN family take Catherine from an > orphanage and provide her with their home as a border and servant? Very > possible. > > I do not know what years they spent in the orphanage. I do not know why > they were put in the orphanage except for speculation. Did Ann die and > James could not take care of he children? Did Ann leave the home for unknown > reasons? One old time relative told me that Ann was a bag lady. whatever t > hat may be in relation to the late 19th century. > > John Collopy is my great grandfather. > > I suspect my best search will be the Catholic Church since they were Irish > Catholic to find documented data connecting mother Ann to daughter > Catherine. > > Thank you > Sharon > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for that cemetery link to the New Cathedral Cemetery. Those are definitely my Brady and James Collopy. About 8 years ago I found the obit for James Collopy which then gave me the cemetery name. I contacted that cemetery and paid $15 for that same information that is now on the web site to access for free. Oh well that is the way things go. But I will keep the web link for future use in researching the Brady family. Thanks again Sharon In a message dated 12/2/2010 10:09:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tmj@astro.as.utexas.edu writes: Here is an interesting link, has Brady and Collopy families listed: http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/philadelphia/cemeteries/newcathedral.txt On 12/2/10 7:35 AM, "Shadonkd35@aol.com" <Shadonkd35@aol.com> wrote: > > Yes, that is correct. Catherine Collopy is living with the Dorn family. > > Catherine married sometime after 1880 to Michael Brady. The father of > Catherine, James Collopy, was living with the Brady's when he died in 1891. > The mother, Ann Casey Collopy, is totally gone from the family by some > unknown date for unknown reasons. Ann Casey is deceased before 1891, because > James Collopy is listed as a widower on his death certificate. > > Here is the story from the family. > > Catherine's two brothers, William Collopy and John Collopy, spend some > unknown amount of time in an orphanage in Philadelphia. The two brothers > were taken from the orphanage by a family named Garber and moved to Chester > County. William moved back and forth from Chester County to Phila. all his > life. William spent time traveling west. John remained in Chester County > for the rest of his life. As far as Catherine is concerned, was she ever > in an orphanage? I don't know. Did the DORN family take Catherine from an > orphanage and provide her with their home as a border and servant? Very > possible. > > I do not know what years they spent in the orphanage. I do not know why > they were put in the orphanage except for speculation. Did Ann die and > James could not take care of he children? Did Ann leave the home for unknown > reasons? One old time relative told me that Ann was a bag lady. whatever t > hat may be in relation to the late 19th century. > > John Collopy is my great grandfather. > > I suspect my best search will be the Catholic Church since they were Irish > Catholic to find documented data connecting mother Ann to daughter > Catherine. > > Thank you > Sharon > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 04:55 AM 12/2/2010, you wrote: I would contact any funeral home in Philadelphia. If you have access to information as to which might be the oldest home in business I'd call them. Mr Gallagher might have been the owner of the home, or an employee. So, a home in business now, may know. Otherwise, if you have access to a copy of Everton's Handybook, they will have information for state or city historical societies where records such as these may be archived. JoAnn >Where would I find the funeral home records for the following funeral >director for the years mentioned? > >John P. Gallagher, undertaker 1891 >1508 North 4th street >Philadelphia > >John P. Gallagher, undertaker 1900 >1439 Germantown Avenue >Philadelphia > >apparently the same undertaker but just a different location. > >Sharon

Here is an interesting link, has Brady and Collopy families listed: http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/philadelphia/cemeteries/newcathedral.txt On 12/2/10 7:35 AM, "Shadonkd35@aol.com" <Shadonkd35@aol.com> wrote: > > Yes, that is correct. Catherine Collopy is living with the Dorn family. > > Catherine married sometime after 1880 to Michael Brady. The father of > Catherine, James Collopy, was living with the Brady's when he died in 1891. > The mother, Ann Casey Collopy, is totally gone from the family by some > unknown date for unknown reasons. Ann Casey is deceased before 1891, because > James Collopy is listed as a widower on his death certificate. > > Here is the story from the family. > > Catherine's two brothers, William Collopy and John Collopy, spend some > unknown amount of time in an orphanage in Philadelphia. The two brothers > were taken from the orphanage by a family named Garber and moved to Chester > County. William moved back and forth from Chester County to Phila. all his > life. William spent time traveling west. John remained in Chester County > for the rest of his life. As far as Catherine is concerned, was she ever > in an orphanage? I don't know. Did the DORN family take Catherine from an > orphanage and provide her with their home as a border and servant? Very > possible. > > I do not know what years they spent in the orphanage. I do not know why > they were put in the orphanage except for speculation. Did Ann die and > James could not take care of he children? Did Ann leave the home for unknown > reasons? One old time relative told me that Ann was a bag lady. whatever t > hat may be in relation to the late 19th century. > > John Collopy is my great grandfather. > > I suspect my best search will be the Catholic Church since they were Irish > Catholic to find documented data connecting mother Ann to daughter > Catherine. > > Thank you > Sharon > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, that is correct. Catherine Collopy is living with the Dorn family. Catherine married sometime after 1880 to Michael Brady. The father of Catherine, James Collopy, was living with the Brady's when he died in 1891. The mother, Ann Casey Collopy, is totally gone from the family by some unknown date for unknown reasons. Ann Casey is deceased before 1891, because James Collopy is listed as a widower on his death certificate. Here is the story from the family. Catherine's two brothers, William Collopy and John Collopy, spend some unknown amount of time in an orphanage in Philadelphia. The two brothers were taken from the orphanage by a family named Garber and moved to Chester County. William moved back and forth from Chester County to Phila. all his life. William spent time traveling west. John remained in Chester County for the rest of his life. As far as Catherine is concerned, was she ever in an orphanage? I don't know. Did the DORN family take Catherine from an orphanage and provide her with their home as a border and servant? Very possible. I do not know what years they spent in the orphanage. I do not know why they were put in the orphanage except for speculation. Did Ann die and James could not take care of he children? Did Ann leave the home for unknown reasons? One old time relative told me that Ann was a bag lady. whatever t hat may be in relation to the late 19th century. John Collopy is my great grandfather. I suspect my best search will be the Catholic Church since they were Irish Catholic to find documented data connecting mother Ann to daughter Catherine. Thank you Sharon

Yes, that is correct. Catherine Collopy is living with the Dorn family. Catherine married sometime after 1880 to Michael Brady. The father of Catherine, James Collopy, was living with the Brady's when he died in 1891. The mother, Ann Casey Collopy, is totally gone from the family by some unknown date for unknown reasons. Ann Casey is deceased before 1891, because James Collopy is listed as a widower on his death certificate. Here is the story from the family. Catherine's two brothers, William Collopy and John Collopy, spend some unknown amount of time in an orphanage in Philadelphia. The two brothers were taken from the orphanage by a family named Garber and moved to Chester County. William moved back and forth from Chester County to Phila. all his life. William spent time traveling west. John remained in Chester County for the rest of his life. As far as Catherine is concerned, was she ever in an orphanage? I don't know. Did the DORN family take Catherine from an orphanage and provide her with their home as a border and servant? Very possible. I do not know what years they spent in the orphanage. I do not know why they were put in the orphanage except for speculation. Did Ann die and James could not take care of he children? Did Ann leave the home for unknown reasons? One old time relative told me that Ann was a bag lady. whatever that may be in relation to the late 19th century. John Collopy is my great grandfather. I suspect my best search will be the Catholic Church since they were Irish Catholic to find documented data connecting mother Ann to daughter Catherine. Thank you Sharon In a message dated 12/2/2010 7:59:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, reginanau@msn.com writes: ink I found her under Cath. Collopy living with a Dorn family > From: Shadonkd35@aol.com > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 21:12:14 -0500 > To: paphilad@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Connecting Family > > What I would like to ask is if anyone on this list is in Philadelphia and > can do a random act of kindness to look up a marriage and/or birth record > for Catherine. Her death cert has a middle initial on it of C. But I don't > know what the name might be and I have no other documentation that has a > middle initial on it. She married a man named Michael Brady but I have no > idea when. I believe Catherine was still single in 1880 at the age of 20 > living with another family as a border and servant for them. > > If anyone could look this up for me, I would be very grateful. > Thanks > Sharon > > > In a message dated 12/1/2010 8:55:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > seekay@comcast.net writes: > > Sharon, > > Have you checked for Catherine's birth record? Philadelphia birth records > begin in 1860. > > How about Catherine's marriage license? Although marriage records at this > date in Philadelphia don't show parents' info, there's always a chance > that she married while a minor and so might have had a parental consent form. > > And, of course, there's the relevant church records -- baptism and > marriage. > > Any of the above might show the mother's name. > > HTH > > Claire K. > > > On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Shadonkd35@aol.com wrote: > > > ...Catherine was born in 1860...was married to Micheal Brady when she > died ...in > > 1900. ... > >> > >> I have a situation where I know a mother, Ann,and daughter, Catherine, > > are > >> definitely mother and daughter. But I have no data in writing to prove > >> it. > >> ..Where else and what else can I search for that would give me proof > > positive > >> that Catherine was the daughter of Ann Collopy? > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

ink I found her under Cath. Collopy living with a Dorn family > From: Shadonkd35@aol.com > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 21:12:14 -0500 > To: paphilad@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Connecting Family > > What I would like to ask is if anyone on this list is in Philadelphia and > can do a random act of kindness to look up a marriage and/or birth record > for Catherine. Her death cert has a middle initial on it of C. But I don't > know what the name might be and I have no other documentation that has a > middle initial on it. She married a man named Michael Brady but I have no > idea when. I believe Catherine was still single in 1880 at the age of 20 > living with another family as a border and servant for them. > > If anyone could look this up for me, I would be very grateful. > Thanks > Sharon > > > In a message dated 12/1/2010 8:55:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > seekay@comcast.net writes: > > Sharon, > > Have you checked for Catherine's birth record? Philadelphia birth records > begin in 1860. > > How about Catherine's marriage license? Although marriage records at this > date in Philadelphia don't show parents' info, there's always a chance > that she married while a minor and so might have had a parental consent form. > > And, of course, there's the relevant church records -- baptism and > marriage. > > Any of the above might show the mother's name. > > HTH > > Claire K. > > > On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Shadonkd35@aol.com wrote: > > > ...Catherine was born in 1860...was married to Micheal Brady when she > died ...in > > 1900. ... > >> > >> I have a situation where I know a mother, Ann,and daughter, Catherine, > > are > >> definitely mother and daughter. But I have no data in writing to prove > >> it. > >> ..Where else and what else can I search for that would give me proof > > positive > >> that Catherine was the daughter of Ann Collopy? > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to see Catherine in the 1880 census. Can you tell me under what last name I would find her and whose home she is living in. > From: Shadonkd35@aol.com > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:01:22 -0500 > To: paphilad@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAPhl] Connecting Family > > Catherine and her mother, Ann, are not in any federal censuses listed > together as far as I know. I cannot find them in 1870 and in 1880 Catherine is > listed as a border with another family. Catherine was born in 1860 but > does not appear on the 1860 census. > > Catherine was married to Micheal Brady when she died at the age of 40 in > 1900. She was born in Philadelphia and always lived there. > I have an obituary for James Collopy that connects him to Catherine. > I have an obituary for Catherine that connects her to James, the father. > But not her mother. > > I guess the best thing is to obtain baptismal records from the Catholic > church. > > Spelling of the name is definitely a problem. Even using the soundex or > other sources, I am still unable to locate them in the census. There are so > many variations on the name spelling, it is mind boggling. > > Thanks > Sharon > > > > > In a message dated 12/1/2010 1:32:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > reginanau@msn.com writes: > > > Are they in any census records - if so under what name (spelling)? Was > Catherine married when she died? Were they always in Philadelphia? Was > Catherine born in PA. If they were catholic can you obtain the baptisimal > record for Catherine? What information to you have to connect an Ann to > Catherine and James? > > > From: Shadonkd35@aol.com > > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 13:02:27 -0500 > > To: PAPHILAD@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [PAPhl] Connecting Family > > > > I have a situation where I know a mother, Ann,and daughter, Catherine, > are > > definitely mother and daughter. But I have no data in writing to prove > > it. > > > > the mother, Ann, died prior to 1891 because her husband, James, was > listed > > as a widower when he died. > > I have searched for the mother's, Ann, obituary and death certificate > > but still cannot find it. > > > > the daughter, Catherine, died in 1900, I have her obituary and death > > certificate. In the early days the parents were not listed on a person's > death > > certificate as is the case with Catherine. Her obituary only listed > > Catherine as the daughter of the late James Collopy. There is no mention > of her > > mother in the obit. > > > > Where else and what else can I search for that would give me proof > positive > > that Catherine was the daughter of Ann Collopy? > > > > Thanks > > Sharon > > ********* > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > > ********* > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD > ********* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAPHILAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message