The Pennsylvania Genealogical Society certainly offers it. (and for about the same price). Elizabeth C eile wrote: > A Pennsylvania club that I am thinking on joining offers free access > to Heritage Quest as part of their $35 membership. That seems too > good to be true. > > I have used Ancestry only, which I think costs around $200 per annum. > > Are the two services on a par in terms of quality and offerings? > > Thanks. > > Paul > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > TO CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN, WRITE TO: > PAPHILAD-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > >

Thanks to all who commented on my two questions about Heritage Quest and Philly city directories. I have ordered a bunch of Philly city directories films through the local LDS center. Now I wait... Paul

The city directories began in 1793 and went to 1935-36. They were published before the telephone was invented and before most people had telephones. I know that my family did not get a phone until 1951. They listed heads of households and employed persons, including widows. Telephone books list people who had telephones. Sndtenterprises "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened"

Hi all- It really doesn't do much good to discuss whether Ancestry is a more valuable subscription or Heritage Quest is better because it costs less on this list. It is like comparing apples and oranges and you are going to get as many opinions as you get responses and that can get out of hand. If you wish to reply to the original query--please do so privately. I realize that this type of discussion can be interesting and is relevant--but it just too easily gets out of hand because it is all opinion-oriented. You are going to favor the resource that provided you with the most information for the most reasonable price--and that simply won't be the same resource for all of us. Thanks! Joan

I think therein lies your answer if censuses are your main interest. All years are indexed/soundexed on ancestry.com, which is a big plus. Merle -----Original Message----- From: SCSHISLER@aol.com To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:01:45 EST Subject: Re: [PAPHL] heritage quest The Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania also offers Heritage Quest as part of their membership. Heritage Quest doesn't offer family trees like Ancestry does, but it offers access to databases for periodicals, the Revolutionary War, and federal census records. I've only used Heritage Quest for census records, so I can't say how useful the other area are. However, I've found it very useful for tracking individuals via census records. Most years are indexed, although I've found errors in the way that names were typed into the index. All census years will provide you an actual image of census pages, which you can print -- even the years that aren't indexed yet. The years that aren't indexed can still be accessed, although it's a little more difficult and you have to search from page to page to find someone. If you know the actual microfilm reel & page number, it will make a search much easier. Heritage Quest even has the 1930 census available, although it's one of the years that isn't indexed yet. As far as Heritage Quest and Ancestry being on a par in terms of quality and offerings, I think you'll probably have to decide that for yourself (in terms of what you're hoping to get from both services). If you're hoping to find family trees, then Ancestry is better, with the caveat that you don't automatically assume that any tree you find on Ancestry is accurate merely because it's been posted online. I've seen data posted on Ancestry that I know from my research is incorrect. The biggest mistake I've seen is a person who supposedly was born about one hundred years before his parents were. However, it can a useful source -- I've also found information that I'm fairly confident is accurate. If you're more interested in access to census records, you might decide that Heritage Quest is a better deal. Stephen C. Shisler ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== To leave the list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to mailto:PAPHILAD-L-request@RootsWeb.com for list mode or mailto:PAPHILAD-D-request@RootsWeb.com for digest mode ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

The Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania also offers Heritage Quest as part of their membership. Heritage Quest doesn't offer family trees like Ancestry does, but it offers access to databases for periodicals, the Revolutionary War, and federal census records. I've only used Heritage Quest for census records, so I can't say how useful the other area are. However, I've found it very useful for tracking individuals via census records. Most years are indexed, although I've found errors in the way that names were typed into the index. All census years will provide you an actual image of census pages, which you can print -- even the years that aren't indexed yet. The years that aren't indexed can still be accessed, although it's a little more difficult and you have to search from page to page to find someone. If you know the actual microfilm reel & page number, it will make a search much easier. Heritage Quest even has the 1930 census available, although it's one of the years that isn't indexed yet. As far as Heritage Quest and Ancestry being on a par in terms of quality and offerings, I think you'll probably have to decide that for yourself (in terms of what you're hoping to get from both services). If you're hoping to find family trees, then Ancestry is better, with the caveat that you don't automatically assume that any tree you find on Ancestry is accurate merely because it's been posted online. I've seen data posted on Ancestry that I know from my research is incorrect. The biggest mistake I've seen is a person who supposedly was born about one hundred years before his parents were. However, it can a useful source -- I've also found information that I'm fairly confident is accurate. If you're more interested in access to census records, you might decide that Heritage Quest is a better deal. Stephen C. Shisler

City directories started in the last 1700's and continued through 1935. They listed names--usually men's, occupations--usually, and addresses. Frequently, after a man died his wife was listed as widow of so-and-so. I don't know when phone directories started, but, obviously, they included phone numbers. Merle -----Original Message----- From: eile <eile@comcast.net> To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:38:22 -0800 Subject: [PAPHL] City Directories and Telephone Directories Can someone tell me the difference between Philly City Directories and Philly Telephone Directories? The city directories starting in 1880 (the first year that I know about) seem to run every year, but the old telephone directories seem to run every five years. When I asked the Philly Free Library to search city directories, they actually searched telephone directories, so I am unsure about what is what. Can someone bring me some light? Thanks. Paul ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== To leave the list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to mailto:PAPHILAD-L-request@RootsWeb.com for list mode or mailto:PAPHILAD-D-request@RootsWeb.com for digest mode ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

I really like Heritage Quest for census searches(especially because of their advanced search) and for their Revolutionary War records. eile <eile@comcast.net> wrote: A Pennsylvania club that I am thinking on joining offers free access to Heritage Quest as part of their $35 membership. That seems too good to be true. I have used Ancestry only, which I think costs around $200 per annum. Are the two services on a par in terms of quality and offerings? Thanks. Paul ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== TO CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN, WRITE TO: PAPHILAD-admin@rootsweb.com ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Can someone tell me the difference between Philly City Directories and Philly Telephone Directories? The city directories starting in 1880 (the first year that I know about) seem to run every year, but the old telephone directories seem to run every five years. When I asked the Philly Free Library to search city directories, they actually searched telephone directories, so I am unsure about what is what. Can someone bring me some light? Thanks. Paul

A Pennsylvania club that I am thinking on joining offers free access to Heritage Quest as part of their $35 membership. That seems too good to be true. I have used Ancestry only, which I think costs around $200 per annum. Are the two services on a par in terms of quality and offerings? Thanks. Paul

Ref: Town and Country Newspaper Pennsburg, Montgomery County, PA Saturday - August 26, 1905 HARD ON SCHOOL BOARD Judge BECHTEL, of Schuylkill county, delivered a severe lecture in court, at Pottsville, on Monday, to the School Directors, of Tower City, who are dead-locked and have this far failed to elect a principal or any of the teachers. The Judge gave the directors four days time in which to organize, failing, they will be arrested. He said: "If the whole Board is guilty the whole Board will be removed, and when the new Board is appointed there will not be any obstructionists on it. The actions of some of the Boards in the county are a disgrace to the public school system of the State and must be stopped." HEAD CUT OFF BY LOCOMOTIVE As a fast freight train passed out of the Jenkintown yard on Sunday noon a man about 30 years of age, wearing a plaid coat and cap, attempted to board the locomotive. He slipped and fell under the wheels and his head was completely served from his body. The coroner was summoned to investigate. An employes trip pass bearing the name of C.H. GROLL was found on the body and tattoed on the right arm were the initals "C.G." ERECTING FAIR BUILDING Work on the Kutztown fair grounds is being pushed with the greatest rapidity. The contractors are all determined to have their work finished in time to hold a fair. A grand stand similar to the one at Allentown, only not as large, will be erected. A fair building 42 by 100 feet, is to be built. Carpenters from Reading, Allentown, and Philadelphia are assisting in the work. WILL BORE FOR OIL Lowhill township, Lehigh county, has the oil fever, and the inhabitants in the vicinity of Lyon Valley, particulary are considerably worked up over the alleged discovery of traces of petroleum in the water of several wells. What at first led to the supposition that there is oil thereabouts was the fact that cows on the farm of Robert FREY, about a mile above Lyon Valley refused to drink the water. It could not be used for washing and contained a greasy substance of some kind. DIVES TO SAVE BOYS AND HORSE His horse having shied and backed into the Schuylkill Canal, at Pottstown, on Monday, Charles SMITH, aged 12 years, of North Coventry and a companion were saved from drowning by Thomas GUEST. The latter plunged in, pulled the boys out as their heads were disappearing and then saved the horse. SURVEYING NEW TROLLEY ROUTE Surveyors in the employ of the Easton Transit Company are surveying the Freemansburg road between Easton and Freemansburg. It is likely that the line will be built as the Company filed an extension to its lines some time ago. A direct line is desired from Easton to South Bethlehem via Freemansburg. GIRL CHARGED WITH THEFT Miss Sadie KRAMER, of Springtown, aged fifteen years, charged with stealing $100 from Wm. W. WOLFINGER, of Ottsville, appeared before Squire Willis WALL, at Doylestown, Friday afternoon and waived a hearing. The amount of bail was fixed at $500. The girl is said to have stolen the money while on a visit and spent it for jewelry. TOPTON WILL GET UNDERWEAR FACTORY Oliver C. ROHRBACH will engage in manufacturing knit underwear at Topton. A brick building 26 by 50 feet, will be erected to be completed in about two months. The new industry will employ twenty-five hands at the start, with a daily output of 100 dozen, which will gradually be increased to the full capacity of the mill. DANGER IN CATERPILLAR BITE Being bitten on the arm several days ago by a caterpillar, Mrs. Emma BRIGHTBILL, of Reading, is in a serious condition from blood poisoning. Her arm is a deep read color and is very much swollen. The woman suffers excruciating pain. STRANGE FISH CAUGHT A dogfish two feet long and having a flat head like a bulldog was caught by Harry WEAND, a telephone lineman of Pottsville, in the Susquehanna River. Local sportsmen say it is a rare capture. BABY COOS ON LOFTY LEDGE Pedestrians on Hamilton Street, Allentown, were horrified on Monday night to see a baby crawl along the edge of an open window in the third story of its home. It finally sat down and smiled and cooed at the crowd below. The child belonged to Leo ALEXANDER, and the mother was temporarily absent from the room. On returning she grabbed the child and then fainted with fright. SNAKE IN CUPBOARD On going to the cupboard in the kitchen to get a pitcher, Herman HOFFMAN, of Hummels store, Berks county, found a copperhead snake stretched out on the first shelf. The reptile attempted to strike Mr. HOFFMAN, but was caught between the shelf and the door and quickly killed. FINED FOR ILLEGAL FISHING Frank McGAUVEY, of Mount Gretna, and Samuel HOSTER, of Bismark, were fined $25 and costs at Lebanon, on Monday for violating the fish laws. They are accused of gigging fish in the Little Conewago Creek. The case has been appealed.

Ref: Town and Country Newspaper Pennsburg, Montgomery County, PA Saturday - August 26, 1905 WHITE CAPS WANT MONEY S. Gross FREY, a prominent resident of Trappe, is greatly exercised over the receipt of a "White Cap" letter. The inscripton in blood beneath the crossbones and skull demand that he place $300 on the porch of the village school house, under penalty of being dragged from his bed and having administered a coat of tar and feathers. Mr. GROSS, who is reputed to be wealthy, could not divine who his enemies were; but instead of putting the gold on the school porch he had a detective from Norristown secreted nearby. But the White Capper did not put in an apperance. However FREY fears that the threat may be carried out. WILL PROBATED The will of Dr. J.S. MOREY, of Royersford, was admitted to probate, at Norristown, on Monday. His estate is valued at $75,000. His widow gets the entire estate, with the exception of $10,000, which is left in trust for his father. The physician's body is to be cremated and the ashes are to be buried on his father's farm. TROLLEY ACCIDENT While H.S. KERN, merchant, of Shimersville, was stepping off from a trolley car at Macungie on his return from Allentown, he was thrown heavily, striking his head on the crossing. A deep wound was cut on the back of his head. After having the wound dressed by Dr. A.J. BROBST he returned to his home. SPRAINED WRIST IN FALL FROM TROLLEY On getting off the trolley car on returning home from Emaus, Mrs. Elizabeth G. WALBERT, of Macungie, widow of the late Rev. G.B. WALBERT, was thrown on the street by a sudden jerk of the car. She sustained a badly sprained wrist and arm. ROLLING PARTITIONS FOR CHURCH On account of the large number of scholars it has been found necessary by the New Goshenhoppen Sunday School to divide the church into class-rooms. Rolling partitions have been secured for this purpose. They will be placed into position in the near future. SERVICES IN TENT Rev. H.J. KUDER, of Siegfried, on Sunday conducted harvest home services at Howertown. Owing to the building of a new church now in course of erection the services were held in a large tent in the grove. The offering for benevolence amounted to $186. DELEGATE TO NATIONAL BAR ASSOCIATION N.H. LARZELERE, of Norristown, attended the twenty-eight annual session of the American Bar Association at Narragansett Pier, this week. Mr. LARZELERE was one of the delegates of the Pennsylvania Bar Association. BROTHER AND SISTER MEET AFTER 40 YEARS Mrs. R.C. WOODS, of Sedalia, Mo., and her brother, Melville Y. FISH met at Norristown on Wednesday for the first time in forty years. They had not seen each other since they were children. PROPERTY SOLD The house and lot on Main Street, Pennsburg, of Rev. J.L. ROUSH, of Sumneytown, has been sold at private terms to Hiram YOUNG, of near St. Paul's Church. Mr. YOUNG will occupy it himself next spring. BARN DESTROYED BY LIGHTNING During the heavy thunderstorm which passed over this section on Thursday night the large barn on the farm of Solomon STERNER, of Powder Valley, was struck by lightning and totally destroyed. WOMAN VICTIM OF SHARPER Mrs. William LOOSE, a Norristown woman, was the victim of a bold scheme on Wednesday, by which she lost $28. Two boys appeared at her home and handed her a note, directing her to give to bearers a purse containing $28, which the note said would be found in a bureau drawer. The woman thought it strange that her husband wanted money as his occupation is such that he does not need any while at work, yet not doubting the genuineness of the signature, procured the wallet and gave it to the boys. On returning home Mr. LOOSE was surprised to learn of the experience of his wife, as he had not sent for the money. The matter was brought to the notice of the chief of police and an officer was detailed on the case. He secured a description of the boys and soon located them. On being questioned the boys said they were accosted by a man who gave them the note. They delivered it and brought him the purse obtained from Mrs. LOOSE. From the description furnished by the boy messengers, the po! lice think they will be able to locate the scoundrel. BOY LOSES LIFE IN CESSPOOL Descending into a new cesspool at Phillipsburg, N.J., John SIEGENFUSS, an 11-year-old boy, lost his life by suffocation on Tuesday afternoon. The cesspool is being constructed in connection with a row of new houses that the boy's father is erecting. John SIEGENFUSS, aged 16 years, a brother, saw the boy go down the ladder and in a few minutes went to look for him and discovered him lying unconscious at the bottom of the hole. The older boy tried to render assistance and was almost overcome in the same manner. The deadly gas is supposed to emenate from vegetables that were covered over by cinders some years ago as the tract whereon the houses are erected was formerly a sand pit that was later filled up. GIRLS WILL BE DRUGGISTS OF THE FUTURE Of the 263 persons who took the recent examinations of the State Pharmaceutical Examining Board, 113 passed as registered parmacists and 29 as qualified assistants. Four girls successfully passed the examination, and will practice as regular pharmacists. They are: Misses Mary E. GOULD, of Mansfield; Katie E. NEWTON, of Shingle House; Edyth W. WILLIAMS, of Plymouth, and Anna P. FLANAGAN, of Mahanoy City. Two girls also passed as registered and qualified pharmacists' assistants - Misses Elizabeth FULTON, of Pittsburg, and Nora V. BUNDLE, of Mahanoy City. AND HIS NAME IS SMITH! Ben SMITH, the messenger between Pottstown and Philadelphia, is a careful and trustworthy servant. He never leaves before the train starts and he seldom arrives before the train gets back again. He carries all he can but he is never known to carry a package that he can't lift. Ben never smiles in his occasional fits of sadness, and he is't known to cry while hearing a funny story. Ben SMITH is a model messenger. TABERNACLE MEETING A tabernacle meeting under the auspices of the United Evangelical church, will be held August 30 to September 7, at Palm station. The pastor, Rev. N.S. HAWK will be assisted as follows: Aug. 30, Rev. A.J. BRUNNER; Aug. 31, Rev. J.H. STENNER; Sept. 1, Rev. A.J. BRUNNER; Sept. 2 and 3, Rev. C.D. HUBER; Sept. 4, Rev. D.P. LONGSDORF; Sept. 5, Rev. J.H. STENNER; Sept. 6, Rev. D.P. LONGSDORF; Sept. 7, Rev. A.J. BRUNNER. WORK OF THIEF A sneak thief entered the chicken house of Aaron WEIKEL, of Argus, one night last week and stole thirty-five pair of chickens. He escaped without being heard. TUBERCULOSIS COWS KILLED Seven condemned cows, afflicted with tuberculosis, belonging to Mahlon TRAUGER, of Fountainville, Bucks county, were killed by O.J. LEATHERMAN, assisted by A.S. SHIVELY, on Wednesday afternoon. BASE BALL GAME TODAY A strongly contested game of base ball will be played on Wood's Athletic Grounds, Pennsburg. The contesting clubs will be the Redola, of Quakertown and the Pennsburg A.C.

-----Original Message----- From: jtlogan@gmail.com [mailto:jtlogan@gmail.com]On Behalf Of John Logan Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: Fwd: Press Release for the Holiday Auction and Party! PRESS RELEASE: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE African-American Genealogy Group (AAGG) The African-American Genealogy Group will hold its Annual Auction and Holiday Party on Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 6:30PM – 9:00PM at the Community College of Philadelphia, West Regional Center, located at 4725 Chestnut Street, Philadelphia, PA. AAGG will raffle off a Southern Hospitality Food Basket which consist of the following: 18lb. + Turkey, Virginia Ham, 2lbs Smoked Turkey Wings, 5lbs Fresh Yams, 5lbs White Potatoes, 5lbs Fresh Collard Greens, 5lbs Fresh String Beans, 5lbs Apples, 1 Karo Syrup, Pecans, Cranberry Sauce, South Carolina Rice Mix, 4 Boxes of Jiffy Cornbread Mix, 2 Bags Bread Stuffing Mix, Turkey Rub, $25 Gift Certificate to the Supermarket and Maya Angelou's Hallelujah Cookbook with family stories. Raffle Tickets are 1 for $5 and 3 for $10. WOW!!! WE ARE JUST GETTING STARTED! Items available at the Auction are: A beautiful piece of African cloth, lovely pieces of African art, 2 sets of 4 hours of Personal Research Support with Patrick Connolly at NARA, Mid-Atlantic Region with a copy of NARA's gorgeous Genealogy Tree Chart display form, a DNA test kit from African Ancestry.com and a DNA Testing Kit from FamilyTreeDNA.com, an African-American Research Basket from the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah, an African Mosaic Quilting Kit Basket from Cultured Expressions, a full year membership to Ancestry.com, Family TreeMaker Software and Two Tickets, yes, Two Tickets to see Dreamgirls, Saturday, December 17, 2005 @ 2pm at the Prince Music Theater. Plus much More! COME OUT AND PLAY WITH US! Test your knowledge by playing AAGG's own Genealogy and History Game and win one of our door prizes! The African-American Genealogy Group is an all-volunteer, non-profit 501c3 organization whose mission is to encourage and support genealogy research serving people of all ages. The organization has been in existence since 1989 in response to the ever-increasing number of people who express a desire to research their family "roots". OUR ANNUAL HOLIDAY AUCTION AND PARTY IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC! _______________________________

Hi all- I think it is time to wrap up this discussion as to how much records cost to obtain and what various places charge for their searches for records and copying. The ultimate answer is -- if you feel it is too much, don't send for the information and attempt to obtain it through some other means. In any case, I think everyone has had sufficient time to express their opinions -- so let's move on. Thanks! Joan, admin

Some records can be accessed in more than one place and you have to know where to go to get what. City directories, for example, are at my local library (in FL) for 15 cents per page. The FLP will send copies for 50 cents each. They are at the HSP for 50 cents per page. The Germantown Historic Society does not have the complete set and will send 10 copies for $25, i.e. $2.50 per page. You can also copy them at the FHL for about 17 cents per page. At an FHC, you have to order first the index and then the registration film for $3.25 each, then pay for a copy. One problem, of course, is whether you have access to Philly, the FHL or an FHC. If not, the GHS will be the fastest, if they have what you want. Similarly, marriage registrations through mid-1916 are 17 cents per page at the FHL, 50 cents per page at the HSP, 75 cents per page at the City Archives or $30 (yep, THIRTY DOLLARS) at city hall. Unfortunately, after mid 1916 you have no other option than city hall and $30. Other than city hall, you have to know which facilities have what. City Hall will be the fastest. Similarly, death records can be accessed in more than one place. As for births, unless the child was born in a hospital, the odds of actually finding the birth record have been 1 in 3 for my families, and that means all the way through 1919. Births were reported any time the deliverer got around to it, not necessarily soon after the birth, and the records are by when the birth was registered, not when it occurred. To further complicate this, if a physician thought a child would not live, the birth was often not reported, even if the child actually did live. After several frustrating and fruitless searches, I limited my search for birth records to close relatives or someone whose birth would prove a point. Merle -----Original Message----- From: Brian Disbrow <disbrob@gmail.com> To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:24:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Re: m/birth 1880 -1900 Phila I'm glad I am not the only one who thinks those prices are rediculous. I've sent away from a birth certificate (luckily, I knew the date). But I look at my wife's descendants from Scioto Co, Ohio... and Scioto has free access to these older records. On 12/7/05, keith hammond <ficus@euroweb.net.mt> wrote: > > Hi, > just got current prices from city archives ! > > The charge for b/d/m with a date $10.00, or if you only know the > year it's $40.00 per year > > Sorry to say far to much for myself to pay as i have a 5 year span to > search > for a marriage i guess my US family history must come to an end. > Thanks for all the answers and help from the list.You are all so very > kind.Happy christmas to you all. > > Keith in Malta. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helene D'Auria" <hdauria@sbcglobal.net> > To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:24 AM > Subject: RE: [PAPHL] Re: m/birth 1880 -1900 Phila > > > > It's worse - they want one check for $15.00 and one for $20.00. They > also > > have to have exact name of both spouses (including maiden name of > bride). > > > > City Archives is great for births - and comparatively cheap. > > > > Helene > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Botwinick@aol.com [mailto:Botwinick@aol.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:28 PM > > To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [PAPHL] Re: m/birth 1880 -1900 Phila > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12 06 2005 6:00:31 PM, > PAPHILAD-D-request@rootsweb.com > > writes: > > > > << ... i would like to find marriage and birth certificates between > > 1880 - > > 1900 is this possible for Philadelphia ? > > Does a list or index exist ? i have found 2 birth dates on familysearch > > but > > how can i order a copy of the certificate or indeed check if these > dates > > are > > correct ? ... I live in Malta Europe and have no access to records or > > Lds > > library. >> > > > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > > > Both marriage and birth records [indexed] exist for Phila. between 1880 > - > > 1900. You can order marriages by writing to Phila. City Hall, Register > of > > Wills, Marriages Rm. 415, Broad and Market Sts., Phila. PA 19107. Last I > > heard they > > wanted two $15.00 cks per marriage. [ph# 215-686-2233]. Births may be > > ordered from Phila. City Archives. 3101 Market St., Phila,. PA 19104. > Not > > sure > > which years marriages are available at the city archives to mail orders. > > [ph# > > 215-685-9400] > > > > > > Milton E. 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I have actually had great luck with births in Philly. I think I've only struck out on one out of 7 or 8 requests that were all pre-1909, and all were out of hospital births. The City Archives has done a great job for me finding these records. I definitely feel lucky they were found! Helene -----Original Message----- From: organizr01@aol.com [mailto:organizr01@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 7:12 AM To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Re: m/birth 1880 -1900 Phila Some records can be accessed in more than one place and you have to know where to go to get what. City directories, for example, are at my local library (in FL) for 15 cents per page. The FLP will send copies for 50 cents each. They are at the HSP for 50 cents per page. The Germantown Historic Society does not have the complete set and will send 10 copies for $25, i.e. $2.50 per page. You can also copy them at the FHL for about 17 cents per page. At an FHC, you have to order first the index and then the registration film for $3.25 each, then pay for a copy. One problem, of course, is whether you have access to Philly, the FHL or an FHC. If not, the GHS will be the fastest, if they have what you want. Similarly, marriage registrations through mid-1916 are 17 cents per page at the FHL, 50 cents per page at the HSP, 75 cents per page at the City Archives or $30 (yep, THIRTY DOLLARS) at city hall. Unfortunately, after mid 1916 you have no other option than city hall and $30. Other than city hall, you have to know which facilities have what. City Hall will be the fastest. Similarly, death records can be accessed in more than one place. As for births, unless the child was born in a hospital, the odds of actually finding the birth record have been 1 in 3 for my families, and that means all the way through 1919. Births were reported any time the deliverer got around to it, not necessarily soon after the birth, and the records are by when the birth was registered, not when it occurred. To further complicate this, if a physician thought a child would not live, the birth was often not reported, even if the child actually did live. After several frustrating and fruitless searches, I limited my search for birth records to close relatives or someone whose birth would prove a point. Merle -----Original Message----- From: Brian Disbrow <disbrob@gmail.com> To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:24:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Re: m/birth 1880 -1900 Phila I'm glad I am not the only one who thinks those prices are rediculous. I've sent away from a birth certificate (luckily, I knew the date). But I look at my wife's descendants from Scioto Co, Ohio... and Scioto has free access to these older records. On 12/7/05, keith hammond <ficus@euroweb.net.mt> wrote: > > Hi, > just got current prices from city archives ! > > The charge for b/d/m with a date $10.00, or if you only know the > year it's $40.00 per year > > Sorry to say far to much for myself to pay as i have a 5 year span to > search > for a marriage i guess my US family history must come to an end. > Thanks for all the answers and help from the list.You are all so very > kind.Happy christmas to you all. > > Keith in Malta. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helene D'Auria" <hdauria@sbcglobal.net> > To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:24 AM > Subject: RE: [PAPHL] Re: m/birth 1880 -1900 Phila > > > > It's worse - they want one check for $15.00 and one for $20.00. They > also > > have to have exact name of both spouses (including maiden name of > bride). > > > > City Archives is great for births - and comparatively cheap. > > > > Helene > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Botwinick@aol.com [mailto:Botwinick@aol.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:28 PM > > To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [PAPHL] Re: m/birth 1880 -1900 Phila > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12 06 2005 6:00:31 PM, > PAPHILAD-D-request@rootsweb.com > > writes: > > > > << ... i would like to find marriage and birth certificates between > > 1880 - > > 1900 is this possible for Philadelphia ? > > Does a list or index exist ? i have found 2 birth dates on familysearch > > but > > how can i order a copy of the certificate or indeed check if these > dates > > are > > correct ? ... 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I'm glad I am not the only one who thinks those prices are rediculous. I've sent away from a birth certificate (luckily, I knew the date). But I look at my wife's descendants from Scioto Co, Ohio... and Scioto has free access to these older records. On 12/7/05, keith hammond <ficus@euroweb.net.mt> wrote: > > Hi, > just got current prices from city archives ! > > The charge for b/d/m with a date $10.00, or if you only know the > year it's $40.00 per year > > Sorry to say far to much for myself to pay as i have a 5 year span to > search > for a marriage i guess my US family history must come to an end. > Thanks for all the answers and help from the list.You are all so very > kind.Happy christmas to you all. > > Keith in Malta. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helene D'Auria" <hdauria@sbcglobal.net> > To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:24 AM > Subject: RE: [PAPHL] Re: m/birth 1880 -1900 Phila > > > > It's worse - they want one check for $15.00 and one for $20.00. They > also > > have to have exact name of both spouses (including maiden name of > bride). > > > > City Archives is great for births - and comparatively cheap. > > > > Helene > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Botwinick@aol.com [mailto:Botwinick@aol.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:28 PM > > To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [PAPHL] Re: m/birth 1880 -1900 Phila > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12 06 2005 6:00:31 PM, > PAPHILAD-D-request@rootsweb.com > > writes: > > > > << ... i would like to find marriage and birth certificates between > > 1880 - > > 1900 is this possible for Philadelphia ? > > Does a list or index exist ? i have found 2 birth dates on familysearch > > but > > how can i order a copy of the certificate or indeed check if these > dates > > are > > correct ? ... I live in Malta Europe and have no access to records or > > Lds > > library. >> > > > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > > > Both marriage and birth records [indexed] exist for Phila. between 1880 > - > > 1900. You can order marriages by writing to Phila. City Hall, Register > of > > Wills, Marriages Rm. 415, Broad and Market Sts., Phila. PA 19107. Last I > > heard they > > wanted two $15.00 cks per marriage. [ph# 215-686-2233]. Births may be > > ordered from Phila. City Archives. 3101 Market St., Phila,. PA 19104. > Not > > sure > > which years marriages are available at the city archives to mail orders. > > [ph# > > 215-685-9400] > > > > > > Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] botwinick@aol.com > > botwinick@alumni.rowan.edu MEBotwinick@alumni.temple.edu > > http://hometown.aol.com/botwinick/myhomepage/index.html > > > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > > To leave the list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > > mailto:PAPHILAD-L-request@RootsWeb.com for list mode or > > mailto:PAPHILAD-D-request@RootsWeb.com for digest mode > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: > 12/5/2005 > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: > 12/5/2005 > > > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > > TO CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN, WRITE TO: > > PAPHILAD-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > mailto:PAPHILAD-L-request@RootsWeb.com for list mode or > mailto:PAPHILAD-D-request@RootsWeb.com for digest mode > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Ref: Town and Country Newspaper Pennsburg, Montgomery County, PA Saturday - August 26, 1905 BOLD TO EXECUTE WORK AT GREAT ELEVATIONS Tylersport is the home of a bold and daring contractor who has passed beyond middle age but does not hesitate to ascend the lofty heights and perform work that would cause younger men to hesitate. Born in 1845, Mr. HOOT (picture) was raised in Rockhill township, Bucks county, at the place formerly known as HOOT's grist and saw mill. When quite a young man he found employment in the saw mill and continued the work for about twenty years. His saw mill training made him familiar with all kinds of lumber. At times when not too busy at the saw mill, Mr. HOOT was employed as a carpenter. In this trade his wages varied from $1 to $2.25 a day. The higher figure was the value of a day's work during the Civil War while only a dollar was paid during the panic which followed. Since leaving the saw mill the carpentering trade has been followed with the exception of about eight years. This time was devoted to the cattle trade, shipping cattle from Western Pennsylvania, Ohio, Kentucky and ! other Western States, to Eastern Markets. When Mr. HOOT had attained his 56 year he remodelled the Ridge Valley Reformed Church and erected the new steeple. During the past spring, at the advanced age of 60 years, the steeple at Schlichter's Church was repaired by him. To do this it was necessary to build a scaffold 102 feet high. The weather wane had to be taken down to re-gild and put in place again. This was all done by Mr. HOOT himself and although not a young man, he experienced no fear. After completing the work, the scaffold has again taken down without an accident, not a single piece of wood falling to the ground. Mr. HOOT is still in the full vigor of manhood and if duty calls, will again undertake to execute work similar to that required from him in the repairing of the steeple at Schlichter's Church. SERVICE BY NOTED PASTOR Rev. Dr. SCHICK, President ROOSEVELT's pastor at Washington, D.C., preached on Sunday morning in the Goshenhoppen Reformed Church. His text was "As my father hath sent me, even so I send you." It was an eloquent discourse on the importance of work on the part of the Christian. The idler, declared the preacher, is the unhappy man of the world. The man who has work to do and does it is the man who enjoys the greatest measure of happiness. The church was crowded with attentive listerners, more than 700 being present. Dr. SCHICK said he regarded it a great privilege to speak from the same pulpit once occupied by Dr. WEISER. In the evening Rev. Dr. SCHICK conducted Harvest Home services in the Hereford Chapel. His theme was "Feeding the multitudes with five loaves and two fishes." The Pennsylvania Germans attended in great numbers to her him preach in German. NORRISTOWN MILK IS PURE The Pure Food Commissioner recently investigated the local milk supply of Norristown, securing samples from twenty seven milk dealers. A test was made. All but one of the samples taken proved pure. It is likely that the dealer whose sample failed to meet the required tests will be prosecuted. HEAVY DAMAGE SUIT John B. YERGER, of Pottstown, began suit against the Pottstown and Reading Railway Company for damages to the amount of $20,000. This suit is the outcome of the trolley accident that occurred in Pottstown on June 10, 1905. In the accident two cars returning from a base ball game crashed into each other. Both the cars were crowded with passengers and quite a number were badly injured. YERGER was a passenger in one of the cars and his right leg was almost severed. The injury was of such a nature that it was necessary to amputate the limb. He is a pattern maker and in his statement says that he is entirely disabled from work. He has suffered great pain and inconvenience and is entirely incapable of following his employment. He therefore asks damages to the above amount. FINE CROP OF PEACHES Although the peach crop is reported to be short, J.C. SAYLOR, of Ringing Rocks, expects to gather 5000 baskets from 2000 bearing peach trees. WILL ESTABLISH MILK STATION A large milk station is to be established at Hancock, on the East Penn railroad. The milk will be bottled and shipped to Philadelphia.

Ref: Town and Country Newspaper Pennsburg, Montgomery County, PA Saturday - August 26, 1905 TWO WIDOWS CLAIM INSURANCE It is expected that a suit for $1300 insurance money will be instituted at Reading within a few days. John MILLER a brakeman on the Philadelphia and Reading railway committed suicide by inhaling gas at a Reading hotel in November 1903. He was a member of the Brotherhood of Railway Trainmen and his death entitled his widow, named in the policy as Mary MILLER, to the insurance. A Mrs. John E. GREENLY, of Philadelphia, appeared after the man's death and claimed the money. Mrs. GREENLY spent several days this week at the Court House at Reading looking up records with the view of bringing suit against the order. Mrs. GREENLY claims that MILLER was her husband and that his real name was John E. GREENLY. Mrs. GREENLY asserts that "MILLER" as he called himself, was 35 years old when he died and he deserted her. She says they are not divorced, and states as a means of identification, that he had his initials tattooed on his right arm. An agreement had been made by the women to divide! the insurance money, but the order refuses to pay either of them. A SUNDAY ACCIDENT While engine No. 555 was making up her train on Sunday morning in the yard at Dillinger, an accident occured which broke the caboose to such an extent that it could not be used to make the trip. The engine with ten cars attached, was coming up the main track and was in the act of pulling the caboose from the siding, when on account of some cars on the siding, the engineer could not see the signal of the brakeman and the cars were pushed too far up, striking the caboose and throwing it over on its side against the scaffold truck which is used by the carpenters to work in the tunnel. Had it not been for this support it would have rolled down the bank and made the accident much worse. After about an hour's work they succeeded in getting it back on the track but were obliged to go without a caboose. It was removed to East Penn Junction by engine 715 which is known as the hill pusher, later in the day. The train having the wreck was in charge of engineer Jacob HARTRANFT and condu! ctor FIDLER. BOY FELL INTO PITCHFORK Charles SNYDER, Jr., the 10-year-old son of Carolus SNYDER, a well-known farmer residing in Lowhill township, Lehigh county, was painfully injured on Monday night. In company with several companions the boy was playing on a load of hay. He tripped and fell on a pitchfork lying in the hay. One of the sharp tines pierced both cheeks and broke off two teeth. The cries of the boy brought Mr. SNYDER who assisted the chap from the hay and carried him to his home. A physician was summoned. He dressed the injuries and gave them treatment to prevent infection. CHILD WALKS INTO LAKE WHILE SLEEPING Little Catherine WIST, a six-year-old girl of Yardly Bucks County, went through a queer experience on Sunday evening. Feeling tired she laid herself on a bench and fell asleep. At about 10.30 the mother discovered that the child had not retired as she had supposed. Mrs. WIST started to hunt the girl and found her in Afton Lake up to her waist in water and mud. The child was in a somnambulistic condition and the mother had a hard time to awaken her as she had to call her from the bank. The child had arisen in her sleep and wandered about twenty-five feet from where she laid down. THIEVES STEAL HERD OF CATTLE A novel theft occurred in Manheim township, Lancaster county, on Tuesday night, when thieves drove a herd of ten fat steers out of Jacob B. ESBENSHADE's pasture and under cover of darkness drove them to Spring Garden, a distance of fifteen miles. The animals were so exhausted that they dropped by the roadside. When daylight broke the thieves sought the shelter of corn fields and escaped. Their intent was undoubtedly to get the steers to Philadelphia for sale. The animals were returned to their owner. NOTICE TO AUTOISTS The borough authorities of Pennsburg have posted boards at all the roads leading into town, cautioning autoists not to exceed the legal speed limits while running their machines over the borough streets. AGREEABLE PARTIES Powder Valley was set aglow on Saturday evening last by a brilliant party given my Miss Mary MILLER. The guests assembled at an early hour to enjoy its pleasures. Among whom were the Misses Carrie TREICHLER, Mabel SCHULTZ, Estella FETTERMAN, Amanda SEIBERT, Annie SCHUBERT, Jennie S. MILLER, Mary E. MILLER, Elsie DRUCKENMILLER, Isabella BIELER, Elsie GETTY, Gertrude STUART and Messrs Calvin HEADMAN, Willis SCHULTZ, Walter GETTY, Homer SCHULTZ, Frank KEMP, Oliver BIELER, Frank GETTY, Chas. GRABER, Eugene GRABER, Edwin KECK, Ervin ALTHOUSE and Harry ROBERTS. After participating in a varied entertainment the friends enjoyed a liberal repast, spread on a side portico. The decorations of "Golden-rod" and Japanese lanterns were artistically arranged and much admired. After a good jolly time the young folks were loathe to part but at a late hour with good wishes and congratulations for the hostess, they returned to their homes. A surprise party was tendered to Mrs. Sarah UNDERCUFFLER, of Kumry, on Saturday evening August 19, in honor of her birthday. The following were present: Mr. John BEALER, Mrs. Wm. NICHOLAS, Mr. and Mrs. Wm. WOLF Sr., Mr. and Mrs. Wm. WOLF Jr., and children Sadie, Robert and Herbert, Mrs. John REINHART, Mrs. Oswin L. REINHART, Mr. and Mrs. Robert BEALER, Mr. and Mrs. Harvey BEALER and son Claude, Mr. and Mrs. Emanuel HARTENSTINE and daughter Jennie, Mr. and Mrs. Oswin R. REINHART and daughter Helen, Mr. and Mrs. Wm. TRUMP and son Raymond, Mr. and Mrs. Jacob WOLF and daughter Mabel, Mr. and Mrs. Charles HELM, Mr. Curtis WEISS, Mr. and Mrs. Charles GAUGLER and children, Samuel, Ella, Katie and Paul, Mr. and Mrs. Monroe WOLF and children Gertrude and Lizzie, Mrs. Mary ALDERFER, Mrs. Fred FREY and Mrs. Sarah UNDERCUFFLER, Misses H. AMBACKER, Lizzie WOLF, Lillie WOLF, Lizzie BEALER, Ella SMITH, Emma REINHART, Lottie BARNDT, Luzy BOYER, Mamie UNDERCUFFLER, Ida NESBIT and Carrie MUMB! AUER, Messrs Edwin REINHART, Frank REINHART, Robert REINHART, Harry FLUCK, Harvey GAUGLER, Howard FITZGERALD, Wm. LITZENBERGER, Frank DERR, Calvin KLINE, Jacob KLINE, Byron MILLER, C.M. KERN, F. AMBACKER, Oliver SHUPP, Harry NICHOLAS, Amndus WOLF, Robert MUMBAUER, Robert SHULL, Samuel UNDERCUFFLER. BOLD CHICKEN THIEVES A gang of daring chicken thieves one night this week entered the premises of John W. STAUFFER, a farmer residing near Barto, and stole nearly his entire flock of poultry, numbering over one hundred laying hens and young chickens. While the thieves were at work looting the hen house Mr. STAUFFER awoke and commanded them to leave, not heeding the order and determined to make a clean sweep of all the poultry, the bold burglars climbed to the top of a tree about thirty feet from the house, in sight of the awakened family, and caught all roosting there, excepting a dozen that took flight into a meadow. After the chickens were all placed in cages and those securely nailed, the thieves drove rapidly away. FISH WARDEN RESIGNS Fish Warden Charles H. NESTLEY, of Royersford, sent Commissioner of Fisheries, W.E. MEEHAN, of Harrisburg, his resignation as a fish warden of Pennsylvania, on Tuesday. Mr. NESTLEY states that his reason for resigning is because the department of fisheries allowed him no salary on his home territory, and the commissions off fines in not sufficient to make a living and as an officer Mr. NESTLEY claims he deserves better treatment. NESTLEY has proved one of the best fish wardens in the state, and illegal fishermen feared him. NO CIGARETTE SMOKERS Hereafter applicants to enter the train service of the Lehigh Valley Railroad on the Pennsylvania devision who are versed in the art of rolling and making cigarettes will be promptly rejected without further ceremong. The trainmaster at Sayre has received instructions to turn down the yellowfingered coffin nail consumers, and turn them down quickly. If the tips of the applicants forefinger and thumb are of a yellowish hue, no further questions are asked. COMMITTED SUICIDE BY ACID The lifeless body of Joseph WEISLEY, one of the foremost citizens of Catasauqua, was found lying on the grand stand of the Catasauqua base ball club's park on Wednesday evening. An empty pint bottle, labled syrup, but smelling after carbolic acid was lying at the side of the dead body and indicated that its contents had been used to end life. The face was scared by coming in contact with the strong acid. PROPERTY CHANGES OWNERS Nathaniel FRY sold his house and lot on Main Street, Pennsburg, opposite the public school grounds, to Frank STAHL, of Philadelphia. C.G. FRIES, the slater, of Pennsburg, will occupy the house on October 1st.

HI everyone I am researching my husband's family GEBBIE. They originate from Scotland a little place called GALSTON in the county of AYRSHIRE. I know that some Gebbies came to Philadelphia in the 1800s and became publishers. If anyone is researching this name from Scotland and Ireland to Philadelphia I would be pleased to hear from them - and happy to share information which I have in my data base. Thank you for your time. Beryl