Hello - Seeking the parentage of my GrGrandfather HENRY H. EDEL-EDELL, he was b. abt. 1829-30 Phila. it appears, he lived in So. Philly near Wharton St., he married a MARGARET ANN PENNINGTON 1865 while he was a Soldier in the 2 Penn. Hvy Artil., 5 children.... HENRY died 1877. I have had the Hist. Society conduct research, also I have gone over numerous films for B M D at my FHC..also numerous Church records and City Directories ........ the 1850 Census seems to show him age 20 ( name spelled EDAL ) with ANN, who might be his mother, also another ANN maybe a female relative..... there are not many EDEL in Phila., but so far I have been unable to connect my HENRY to a father .... I do know another family of Matthias Edel and Phoebe Bakeoven are not his, they also had a Henry... and I suspect they are related , but I don't know how..... could they be descended from CHRISTIAN EDEL who died 1769 ?? I would sure appreciate any suggestions! and help on this, it has been a brick-wall for far too long and I seem to have exhausted every avenue of research....... Thank you, Sally Edell Dutton

oops, meant to say genealogical society -----Original Message----- From: Botwinick@aol.com To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:24:41 EST Subject: [PAPHL] Re: Old Swedes [Gloria Dei Church] In a message dated 12 23 2005 3:01:59 AM, PAPHILAD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Subject: Gloria Dei Church (Columbus Blvd. & Christian St.) Does anyone know if the above church has old church records dating back to the very early 1800's? If so, are the records open to the public? 00000000000000000000000000000 Old Swedes [Gloria Dei Church (Columbus Blvd. & Christian St.)] has extensive records going back to 1600's if memory serves me. These are found at HSP & GSP in Phila. LDS probably has them. You can ck. the web sites for details at the above organizations. These records are open to the public as is the graveyard itself. Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] botwinick@aol.com botwinick@alumni.rowan.edu MEBotwinick@alumni.temple.edu http://hometown.aol.com/botwinick/myhomepage/index.html ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Thanks for the info. I'll check with both the GSP and HSP. I've been to the Gealogical Society before but wasn't checking church records at the time. Teri -----Original Message----- From: Botwinick@aol.com To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:24:41 EST Subject: [PAPHL] Re: Old Swedes [Gloria Dei Church] Old Swedes [Gloria Dei Church (Columbus Blvd. & Christian St.)] has extensive records going back to 1600's if memory serves me. These are found at HSP & GSP in Phila. LDS probably has them. You can ck. the web sites for details at the above organizations. These records are open to the public as is the graveyard itself. Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] botwinick@aol.com botwinick@alumni.rowan.edu MEBotwinick@alumni.temple.edu http://hometown.aol.com/botwinick/myhomepage/index.html ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

In a message dated 12 23 2005 3:01:59 AM, PAPHILAD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Subject: Gloria Dei Church (Columbus Blvd. & Christian St.) Does anyone know if the above church has old church records dating back to the very early 1800's? If so, are the records open to the public? 00000000000000000000000000000 Old Swedes [Gloria Dei Church (Columbus Blvd. & Christian St.)] has extensive records going back to 1600's if memory serves me. These are found at HSP & GSP in Phila. LDS probably has them. You can ck. the web sites for details at the above organizations. These records are open to the public as is the graveyard itself. Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] botwinick@aol.com botwinick@alumni.rowan.edu MEBotwinick@alumni.temple.edu http://hometown.aol.com/botwinick/myhomepage/index.html

I just ordered a couple death records online. You do not need to submit a photo ID. I called them about the line where it says "no genealogy requests". The gal I talked to said to just go ahead and, when it asks why, pick "Legal" from the list. Now we wait... Paul On 22 Noll 2005, at 10:00 am, PAPHILAD-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > http://www.dsf.health.state.pa.us/health/cwp/view.asp? > a=168&Q=202219#Methods > > From: Barbara Easterday <beasterd@eastern.edu> > this is great and thanks for the info but you still have to submit > your photo ID.

Hi, I am at a loss for a marriage for my great grand parents Sylvester Horne and Betty Lee McKinnion. According to the 1930 census, they were listed under Hane. The census stated that they were born in 1907 (Sylvester) and 1908 (Betty). Both were born in North Carolina according to the census. I am unsure if they married in North Carolina or Philadelphia, PA. I know that Betty died in Philadelphia 09 Feb 1967, but unsure when and where Sylvester died. I really haven't been able to find any other information on this family. Any help with them would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Anna Adams

Thanks. Thought I ask the list first in case someone knew for sure. You can always call the church or send a letter. Philadelphia Research

You can always call the church or send a letter. Philadelphia Research

Does anyone know if the above church has old church records dating back to the very early 1800's? If so, are the records open to the public? Thanks. Teri Tighe NJ

On the discussion of the photo ID. I just got a state ID card that only has my photo and name and address. No social # or DL # I am using this anytime I have to submit a photo id. It only cost $5. and can be used for 6 years. I think (I have not been to the site recently) that you just have to have somekind of photo id so this one will work. ginger

Thank you, wonder what they mean by " no genealogy requests "....... ----- Original Message ----- From: "eile" <eile@comcast.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:14 AM Subject: PA vital records > On the issue of the state of PA rejecting folks whose driver's license > address did not match their mailing address, after a number of calls, I > have found this area of the PA records' site: > http://www.dsf.health.state.pa.us/health/cwp/view.asp? > a=168&Q=202219#Methods > > It shows how you can choose online records ordering, and avoid having > to use a photo id. > > I had no idea this was there; maybe this is news to others, too. > > best, > Paul > > ______________________________

this is great and thanks for the info but you still have to submit your photo ID. At 06:14 AM 12/22/2005 -0800, you wrote: >On the issue of the state of PA rejecting folks whose driver's license >address did not match their mailing address, after a number of calls, I >have found this area of the PA records' site: >http://www.dsf.health.state.pa.us/health/cwp/view.asp? a=168&Q=202219#Methods > >It shows how you can choose online records ordering, and avoid having >to use a photo id. > >I had no idea this was there; maybe this is news to others, too. > >best, >Paul > > >==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

On the issue of the state of PA rejecting folks whose driver's license address did not match their mailing address, after a number of calls, I have found this area of the PA records' site: http://www.dsf.health.state.pa.us/health/cwp/view.asp? a=168&Q=202219#Methods It shows how you can choose online records ordering, and avoid having to use a photo id. I had no idea this was there; maybe this is news to others, too. best, Paul

Debbie, Thank's so much for looking, I have William's in my Wetherill line in Philadelphia along with Wilson's. I also have a Samuel R. Wetherill b. 1792 married to Mary Wilson in 1821 in Burlington, NJ. Have you tried the spelling Wetherill or Wetherell for the census? The phonetic spelling for Wetherill is Weatherall ... I got that all the time growing up. Pamela In a message dated 12/22/2005 12:18:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, dabbear@ptd.net writes: Pamela, No, I'm sorry I don't have any other info on William Weatherall. I can't find them in the 1930 census either. Pamela Wright Bucks County, PA. Researching Surnames: Ashcraft / Ashcroft, Ashfield, Biles, Bullock, Canby, Goldstone, Hauf / Hanf, Hewlings/Huelings, Hornby, Hunt, Kelty, Levering, Macknet / Mackinet, Makela, Marshall, Morris, Nori, Ogborne, Robinson, Rose, Shoemaker, Stucke, Thorn(e), Wambold / Wampole, Weikel, Wetherill, Williamson, Wisham, Wright.

Pamela, No, I'm sorry I don't have any other info on William Weatherall. I can't find them in the 1930 census either. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pami0608@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:47 AM Subject: [PAPHL] Wison - Wetherill connection > Good morning Debbie, > > I am interested in the William Weatherall you have posted to Edward: > > " Anna Eulida Wilson ( called Aunt Lilla) b. 3-5-1893 married > after 1922 to William Weatherall b. 1889" > > Do you know anything about his parentage? > > > Pamela Wright > Bucks County, PA. > > Researching Surnames: > Ashcraft / Ashcroft, Ashfield, Biles, Bullock, Canby, Goldstone, Hauf / > Hanf, Hewlings/Huelings, Hornby, Hunt, Kelty, Levering, Macknet / Mackinet, > Makela, Marshall, Morris, Nori, Ogborne, Robinson, Rose, Shoemaker, Stucke, > Thorn(e), Wambold / Wampole, Weikel, Wetherill, Williamson, Wisham, Wright. > > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Dear Genealogy List Members, I am awed by the response to my query sent Tuesday evening (December 20) for information on Ovidio Parra Castro. I posted this query for my dear friend & co-worker. We only found out yesterday morning that Ovidio Parra Castro was his Grandfather. My friend’s Mother Linda Castro Myers (Ovidio’s daughter) was killed one day before my friend turned 3 years old and he grew up knowing nothing about his Mother or her family. In 24 hours, I received over 30 replies with census, military, social security information and more. All of this helped me to confirm that the Ovidio Castro we sought was the newborn son of Eliseo and Amelia (Parra) Castro on the 1930 census in Tampa Florida. With this information, I was able to connect today with a nephew of Ovidio’s. His Mother, Ovidio’s youngest sister, has confirmed the connection!! Thanks to all of you who replied, my friend is in now in contact with members of his Mother’s family. What a Wonderful Christmas gift you have given him!!!! From the both of us, THANK YOU!! Teresa D. ---Original Post--- Looking for anyone who knew or is related to the following family! Ovidio Parra CASTRO born 12 December 1929 in Tampa, Florida. Died May 1987 in Philadelphia, PA. His parents may have been Eliseo CASTRO (1886 Cuba - 1952 Philadelphia, PA) and Amelia PARRA (1896 Tampa Florida - 1979 Philadelphia, PA) Ovidio married Anna Isabel WEIST, born about 1933 in Philadelphia. Anna and Ovidio divorced prior to 1969 and Anna remarried. Her second married name is unknown. Ovidio and Anna had one known daughter named Linda Ann CASTRO, born 27 September 1950. Linda died 15 October 1969. Married name MYERS. Linda had a son born in 16 October 1966. I am trying to help Linda’s son trace his family history and maybe find living relatives. Teresa D. There are only two lasting gifts that we can give to our children. One is Roots, the other Wings. http://www.flottgenealogy.com

Good morning Debbie, I am interested in the William Weatherall you have posted to Edward: " Anna Eulida Wilson ( called Aunt Lilla) b. 3-5-1893 married after 1922 to William Weatherall b. 1889" Do you know anything about his parentage? Pamela Wright Bucks County, PA. Researching Surnames: Ashcraft / Ashcroft, Ashfield, Biles, Bullock, Canby, Goldstone, Hauf / Hanf, Hewlings/Huelings, Hornby, Hunt, Kelty, Levering, Macknet / Mackinet, Makela, Marshall, Morris, Nori, Ogborne, Robinson, Rose, Shoemaker, Stucke, Thorn(e), Wambold / Wampole, Weikel, Wetherill, Williamson, Wisham, Wright.

Edward, I don't believe we are from the same Wilson's, unless any of the below sounds familiar. John Alexander Wilson b. 7-20-1862 in Philadelphia, Pa. Died 1899 Married to Susan Adelaide Cunningham b. in Maryland on 1-31-1862 Died 1937. John Alexander Wilson & Susan Adelaide Cunningham Wilson had 8 children all born in Philadelphia, Pa. John Alexander Wilson died in 1899. Lucy Ethel Wilson b. 3-30-1882 married Robert Todd b. 1878, daugh. Margaret Margaret Jane Wilson b. 12-25-1883 married George A. Zigler b. 1879, son George born 1904 John Alexander Wilson b. 1-11-1886 married Francis Eugenia Mitchell Susan Adelaide Wilson b. 4-10-1887 remained unmarried and died in 1971 Matilda ( Martha) Ann Wilson ( called Aunt Tillie) b. 1-22-1889 married Edgar Alonzo Mitchell he was a contractor in Philadelphia. They had 4 children: Edgar, Emmett, Marian, Robert Frank Lewis Wilson b. 5-27-1891 married Ethel, two daughters Laura & Joyce, settled in New Jersey. He was a very tall man. He died in 1971 Anna Eulida Wilson ( called Aunt Lilla) b. 3-5-1893 married after 1922 to William Weatherall b. 1889 William Panell Wilson b. 4-22-1895 was killed by train in railroad yard in Philadelphia, after 1917. John Alexander Wilson b.1-11-1886 d. 6-5-1925 married at St. Anne's in Philadelphia on 11-27-1907 to Frances Eugenia Mitchell b. 9-8-1887 d. 10/1971. ( Edgar Alonzo & Frances Eugenia were brother & sister) John Alexander Wilson died from heat stroke while driving home from a visit from his brother Frank's in New Jersey. His car broke down & he died on 6-5-1925. He was a Mason & Octuras and in the Odd Fellows Lodge. He was a electrical engineer at Bud. He made trains & trolleys. They lived at 5512 Market street in Philadelphia in the house that was left to Francis Eugenia Mitchell, from her parents. She was left the Dry good store & Doll Hospital. They lived above the store. They had 7 children: Edna, Margaret, John, Eugene, Frank, Jane, and William. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward A Wilson" <fkd2001@hotmail.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:26 PM Subject: RE: [PAPHL] Merry Christmas > Hey wondering if you know of a Margorie Patton-Horton from Philadelphia? She > is my great-grandmother. I am told she was born in Canada sometime in the > 20's or 30's. Please get back to me if any of this is familiar. > > Edward A. Wilson- Philadelphia PA > > > >From: "Nancy Patton" <nanpatn@enter.net> > >Reply-To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com > >To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [PAPHL] Merry Christmas > >Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 17:37:36 -0500 > > > >Wish everyone MERRY CHRISTMAS from Pattons In Pa. > > > > > >==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > >TO CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN, WRITE TO: > >PAPHILAD-admin@rootsweb.com > > > >============================== > >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hey wondering if you know of a Margorie Patton-Horton from Philadelphia? She is my great-grandmother. I am told she was born in Canada sometime in the 20's or 30's. Please get back to me if any of this is familiar. Edward A. Wilson- Philadelphia PA >From: "Nancy Patton" <nanpatn@enter.net> >Reply-To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PAPHL] Merry Christmas >Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 17:37:36 -0500 > >Wish everyone MERRY CHRISTMAS from Pattons In Pa. > > >==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >TO CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN, WRITE TO: >PAPHILAD-admin@rootsweb.com > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Looking for anyone who knew or is related to the following family! Ovidio Parra CASTRO born 12 December 1929 in Tampa, Florida. Died May 1987 in Philadelphia, PA. His parents may have been Eliseo CASTRO (1886 Cuba - 1952 Philadelphia, PA) and Amelia PARRA (1896 Tampa Florida - 1979 Philadelphia, PA) Ovidio married Anna Isabel WEIST, born about 1933 in Philadelphia. Anna and Ovidio divorced prior to 1969 and Anna remarried. Her second married name is unknown. Ovidio and Anna had one known daughter named Linda Ann CASTRO, born 27 September 1950. Linda died 15 October 1969. Married name MYERS. Linda had a son born in 16 October 1966. I am trying to help Linda’s son trace his family history and maybe find living relatives. Teresa D. There are only two lasting gifts that we can give to our children. One is Roots, the other Wings. http://www.flottgenealogy.com