I don't kno wif the church still exists, but the FHL has records from this church. Merle

Does anyone know if records of the Zion Lutheran Church are available at the church, if presently open? Thanks! Natalie ndburrows@verizon.net

Thanks, all! Natalie ----- Original Message ----- From: "phillylorri" <phillylorri@earthlink.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 7:52 PM Subject: [PAPHL] Lutheran Archives >I was refering about going there in person. The man there could not of been > more helpful, an the great information I got on my family was > was not available at HSP or FHL They have the actual books from > each church, That you can go through yourself. Marr. -births-Deaths > confirmation -Cemetarys. > Lorri > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ORGANIZR01@aol.com> > To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 12:44 PM > Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Ulrich Otto, circa 1772, Philadelphis > > >> The people at the Lutheran Archives ARE very nice, but it's run by 2 >> volunteers and getting them to do research for anyone takes forever, if >> it > gets done >> at all. In fact, it's often difficult to get through to them on the >> phone. >> The stuff they have is all or mostly at the HSP and FHL, which would be > much >> faster. >> >> If you want to visit the Lutheran Archives, you have to make an > appointment. >> >> Merle >> >> >> ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >> Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, >> [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel > University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown > Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical > Society > of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional > Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City > Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries > and > Archives >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: unlimited webspace! > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

I was refering about going there in person. The man there could not of been more helpful, an the great information I got on my family was was not available at HSP or FHL They have the actual books from each church, That you can go through yourself. Marr. -births-Deaths confirmation -Cemetarys. Lorri ----- Original Message ----- From: <ORGANIZR01@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Ulrich Otto, circa 1772, Philadelphis > The people at the Lutheran Archives ARE very nice, but it's run by 2 > volunteers and getting them to do research for anyone takes forever, if it gets done > at all. In fact, it's often difficult to get through to them on the phone. > The stuff they have is all or mostly at the HSP and FHL, which would be much > faster. > > If you want to visit the Lutheran Archives, you have to make an appointment. > > Merle > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, > [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical Society of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries and Archives > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi Everyone, I am new to your list and my wife and I hope you'all had a Merry Christmas. I am researching the following families and I do know of one that lived in Philly but if there are any more I do not know. The families are, Burrows, Messick, Phillips, Short and Walls. You'all have a Happy New Year. Take care, Bill and Rachelle Short ----- Original Message ----- From: "phillylorri" <phillylorri@earthlink.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Ulrich Otto, circa 1772, Philadelphis > There is a Lutheran archives in Phila.7301 germantown ave 215-2486383 they > are nice people to deal with. > Lorri > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "NATALIE BURROWS" <ndburrows@verizon.net> > To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Ulrich Otto, circa 1772, Philadelphis > > >> Thanks, Merle. The family was Lutheran. I plan to go to Philadelphia >> soon >> and will look there. What is FHL? >> Thanks again! >> Natalie >> ndburrows@verizon.net >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <ORGANIZR01@aol.com> >> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 11:47 AM >> Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Ulrich Otto, circa 1772, Philadelphis >> >> >> > What is available for that time period: >> > --Immigration record--Check Strassberger at NARA or the FHL >> > --Church records--If you don't know the religion, start with German >> > Reformed >> > Church and >> > Lutheran Church records at the FHL or the HSP. >> > --Tax records--not sure if the FHL has them >> > >> > Good luck. >> > Merle >> > >> > >> > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >> > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, >> > [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel >> > University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown >> > Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical >> > Society of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional >> > Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia > City >> > Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills >> > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania >> > Libraries >> > and Archives >> > >> > ============================== >> > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >> FREE: Search the SSDI [Social Security Death Index] >> http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: unlimited webspace! > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >

Dear Natalie, I noticed you have Burrows in your e-mail address, Being that I am decsendant from a Burrows family in Delaware, I was wondering if maybe any of your family had moved up from Delaware. You may e-mail me direct at wbshort7777@coastalnow.net if you would have any information on the Burrows family in Delaware. Right now I have back to William Darlen Burrows born 1790 in Delaware. By the way I was born and raised in Delaware. Thank you, Bill and Rachelle Short ----- Original Message ----- From: "NATALIE BURROWS" <ndburrows@verizon.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [PAPHL] Ulrich Otto, circa 1772, Philadelphis >I am seeking more information about Ulrich Otto, a chemist, who arrived in >Philadelphia from Germany about 1772. His wife was Magdalena. He died in >1789. He worked apparently in Lancaster Co. and Philadelphia. > Thanks for help. > Natalie > ndburrows@verizon.net > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: unlimited webspace! > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Thanks so much, Joan. I will try to follow through and see if there is a connection to my Ottos. Natalie ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Ulrich Otto, circa 1772, Philadelphis > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 1:30:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, > ndburrows@verizon.net writes: > > Thanks so much, Joan. I never knew the name of Ulrich Otto's ship. > Could > you send me the names of Ottos in the late 18th century in Lancaster and > Philadelphia County, or tell me how to access this information?. I > appreciate your help. > Natalie > ndburrows@verizon.net > > > > --- > Natalie- > > There are several in Lancaster County and Philadelphia County birth > records--nothing that I can connect to Ulrich OTTO though. Lancaster > County will > abstracts lists the will of Magdalena RIEGEL, written in 1800 and > probated in > 1814, who includes daughter Magdalena, wife of John OTTO. > > The 1797 will of Catharine OTTO, of Earl Twp., Lancaster Co. lists as > legatees Jonathan ROLAND and others. Jonathan ROLAND was also exectutor > of the > will. > > In Lancaster County birth records there are listing for 4 children of John > Henry and Anna Catharine OTTO between 1758 and 1766 (the wife's name is > not > listed on the earliest two listings--so this may or may not be the same > Henry > OTTO and it may or may not be the same wife as the later listings). > > Philadelphia births lists Charles Joseph OTTO born 21 Aug. 1768 to James > and > Mary Ann OTTO (St. Joseph's RC Church) and Henrich OTTO born 10 Sept. > 1777 > to Henrich and Anna Maria (St. Michael's and Zion Luther Church, Phila.) > > Joan > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Search RootsWeb and Ancestry: > http://www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi Everyone, I am looking for any information on Isabella S. SMITHSON. The only thing I know about her is that in the 1900 Census, Phila. PA, Ward 31, she is living as a servant with Jacob RINK, a widower, and his 2 sons. Isabella is listed as a widow, 57, b. Aug. 1842. She was b. NY, her father in England and mother in PA. Any tips or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ~ Dori

The people at the Lutheran Archives ARE very nice, but it's run by 2 volunteers and getting them to do research for anyone takes forever, if it gets done at all. In fact, it's often difficult to get through to them on the phone. The stuff they have is all or mostly at the HSP and FHL, which would be much faster. If you want to visit the Lutheran Archives, you have to make an appointment. Merle

There is a Lutheran archives in Phila.7301 germantown ave 215-2486383 they are nice people to deal with. Lorri ----- Original Message ----- From: "NATALIE BURROWS" <ndburrows@verizon.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Ulrich Otto, circa 1772, Philadelphis > Thanks, Merle. The family was Lutheran. I plan to go to Philadelphia soon > and will look there. What is FHL? > Thanks again! > Natalie > ndburrows@verizon.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ORGANIZR01@aol.com> > To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Ulrich Otto, circa 1772, Philadelphis > > > > What is available for that time period: > > --Immigration record--Check Strassberger at NARA or the FHL > > --Church records--If you don't know the religion, start with German > > Reformed > > Church and > > Lutheran Church records at the FHL or the HSP. > > --Tax records--not sure if the FHL has them > > > > Good luck. > > Merle > > > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, > > [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel > > University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown > > Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical > > Society of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional > > Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City > > Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills > > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries > > and Archives > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: Search the SSDI [Social Security Death Index] > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

In a message dated 12/26/2005 1:30:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, ndburrows@verizon.net writes: Thanks so much, Joan. I never knew the name of Ulrich Otto's ship. Could you send me the names of Ottos in the late 18th century in Lancaster and Philadelphia County, or tell me how to access this information?. I appreciate your help. Natalie ndburrows@verizon.net --- Natalie- There are several in Lancaster County and Philadelphia County birth records--nothing that I can connect to Ulrich OTTO though. Lancaster County will abstracts lists the will of Magdalena RIEGEL, written in 1800 and probated in 1814, who includes daughter Magdalena, wife of John OTTO. The 1797 will of Catharine OTTO, of Earl Twp., Lancaster Co. lists as legatees Jonathan ROLAND and others. Jonathan ROLAND was also exectutor of the will. In Lancaster County birth records there are listing for 4 children of John Henry and Anna Catharine OTTO between 1758 and 1766 (the wife's name is not listed on the earliest two listings--so this may or may not be the same Henry OTTO and it may or may not be the same wife as the later listings). Philadelphia births lists Charles Joseph OTTO born 21 Aug. 1768 to James and Mary Ann OTTO (St. Joseph's RC Church) and Henrich OTTO born 10 Sept. 1777 to Henrich and Anna Maria (St. Michael's and Zion Luther Church, Phila.) Joan

Thanks so much, Joan. I never knew the name of Ulrich Otto's ship. Could you send me the names of Ottos in the late 18th century in Lancaster and Philadelphia County, or tell me how to access this information?. I appreciate your help. Natalie ndburrows@verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Ulrich Otto, circa 1772, Philadelphis > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 11:11:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, > ndburrows@verizon.net writes: > > I am seeking more information about Ulrich Otto, a chemist, who arrived > in > Philadelphia from Germany about 1772. His wife was Magdalena. He died in > 1789. He worked apparently in Lancaster Co. and Philadelphia. > Thanks for help. > Natalie > ndburrows@verizon.net > > > > > --- > Pennsylvania German Pioneers, vol. 1, page 742 lists Ulrich Otto as a > passenger arriving in Philadelphia on the ship Catharine on 28 December > 1772. > > I find other OTTOs in Lancaster and Philadelphia records (both before and > after 1772) but not Ulrich. > > Joan > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

In a message dated 12/26/2005 11:11:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, ndburrows@verizon.net writes: I am seeking more information about Ulrich Otto, a chemist, who arrived in Philadelphia from Germany about 1772. His wife was Magdalena. He died in 1789. He worked apparently in Lancaster Co. and Philadelphia. Thanks for help. Natalie ndburrows@verizon.net --- Pennsylvania German Pioneers, vol. 1, page 742 lists Ulrich Otto as a passenger arriving in Philadelphia on the ship Catharine on 28 December 1772. I find other OTTOs in Lancaster and Philadelphia records (both before and after 1772) but not Ulrich. Joan

Family History Library in Salt Lake City. You can check their catalogue at familysearch.org, and rent their films and fiche at your local Family History Center (in Mormon Churches) the locations of which you can also get on that site. Merle P.S. You can check Strassberger in about 2 minutes.

Family History Center. It is maintained by your local Latter Day Saints or Mormon Church Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Ulrich Otto, circa 1772, Philadelphis > > In a message dated 12/26/2005 12:21:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, > ndburrows@verizon.net writes: > > What is FHL? > > > > Family History Library. -- You probably have a branch somewhere near you > connected with a local LDS Church. > > Joan > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > TO CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN, WRITE TO: > PAPHILAD-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 12/26/2005 12:21:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, ndburrows@verizon.net writes: What is FHL? Family History Library. -- You probably have a branch somewhere near you connected with a local LDS Church. Joan

Thanks, Merle. The family was Lutheran. I plan to go to Philadelphia soon and will look there. What is FHL? Thanks again! Natalie ndburrows@verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <ORGANIZR01@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Ulrich Otto, circa 1772, Philadelphis > What is available for that time period: > --Immigration record--Check Strassberger at NARA or the FHL > --Church records--If you don't know the religion, start with German > Reformed > Church and > Lutheran Church records at the FHL or the HSP. > --Tax records--not sure if the FHL has them > > Good luck. > Merle > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, > [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel > University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown > Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical > Society of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional > Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City > Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries > and Archives > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

What is available for that time period: --Immigration record--Check Strassberger at NARA or the FHL --Church records--If you don't know the religion, start with German Reformed Church and Lutheran Church records at the FHL or the HSP. --Tax records--not sure if the FHL has them Good luck. Merle

I am seeking more information about Ulrich Otto, a chemist, who arrived in Philadelphia from Germany about 1772. His wife was Magdalena. He died in 1789. He worked apparently in Lancaster Co. and Philadelphia. Thanks for help. Natalie ndburrows@verizon.net

Hello, There was a Rita Edel in Bucks county who was originally from the Philadelphia area. She was a teacher in the Bucks County School Dist in the last 60's.As I remember she was an only child. At that time she was in her late 40's. She worked for the Centennial Schools in Warminster, PA. Hope this helps in your search. Rosemarie,Lancaster, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dutton Family" <rdutton1@tampabay.rr.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 9:19 AM Subject: [PAPHL] HENRY H. EDEL-EDELL > Hello - Seeking the parentage of my GrGrandfather HENRY H. EDEL-EDELL, he was b. abt. 1829-30 Phila. it appears, he lived in So. Philly near Wharton St., he married a MARGARET ANN PENNINGTON 1865 while he was a Soldier in the 2 Penn. Hvy Artil., 5 children.... HENRY died 1877. I have had the Hist. Society conduct research, also I have gone over numerous films for B M D at my FHC..also numerous Church records and City Directories ........ the 1850 Census seems to show him age 20 ( name spelled EDAL ) with ANN, who might be his mother, also another ANN maybe a female relative..... there are not many EDEL in Phila., but so far I have been unable to connect my HENRY to a father .... I do know another family of Matthias Edel and Phoebe Bakeoven are not his, they also had a Henry... and I suspect they are related , but I don't know how..... could they be descended from CHRISTIAN EDEL who died 1769 ?? I would sure appreciate any suggestions! > and help on this, it has been a brick-wall for far too long and I seem to have exhausted every avenue of research....... Thank you, Sally Edell Dutton > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: Upload your GEDCOM to WorldConnect > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >