Sorry if the data I have is vague but it is all I have to go on. Looking for Martin Rafter & Sarah Rafter, They were both born in Ireland and lived in the south Philly area from 1900 forward. Any help will be appreciated. Frank

Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Adamsgen@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Philadelphia Photographer > > Stafford, > Try City Directories or phone books (I'm not sure when phone books > started). > Diane in CO > > In a message dated 1/13/2006 8:50:58 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, > sjkjaer@comcast.net writes: > > Need help in finding a photographer with name of either "Bruul" or > "Brunel" > located a 1024 Chestnut St in either the late 1800s or early 1900s. Would > like to know dates he was in business which in turn will help dating a > family > photo. > Thanks for all help > > > > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: Upload your GEDCOM to WorldConnect > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Stafford, Try City Directories or phone books (I'm not sure when phone books started). Diane in CO In a message dated 1/13/2006 8:50:58 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, sjkjaer@comcast.net writes: Need help in finding a photographer with name of either "Bruul" or "Brunel" located a 1024 Chestnut St in either the late 1800s or early 1900s. Would like to know dates he was in business which in turn will help dating a family photo. Thanks for all help

Donna, Well, that was dumb of me! He would have been 12 at the beginning of that war! Diane

Donna, How about the War of 1812? Diane in CO

I have Benjamin Hart Brown, born 5 June 1800 and died January 27, 1848 in Oxford Township, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania. Does anyone know of any military service that might apply to this time period? I am seeking information on his parents, siblings, etc. Thank you, Donna Cuillard

Hello - The next of kin needs to request it. John Gray, Grove City, OH At 07:12 PM 1/12/2006, you wrote: >I am after finding out that a relative died in 2/1957 at the >Veterans' Hospital in Butler, PA. > >The hospital has refused to give me any information at all, medical >or otherwise. > >Is there someone at the military that would have info about his >military record? > >Thanks. > >Paul > > >==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

I believe Oxford Township is in Chester County, Pa. Not Philadelphia County. ----- Original Message ----- From: <DCuillard@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:04 AM Subject: [PAPHL] Possible Military 1800-1848 >I have Benjamin Hart Brown, born 5 June 1800 and died January 27, 1848 in > Oxford Township, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania. > Does anyone know of any military service that might apply to this time > period? > I am seeking information on his parents, siblings, etc. > Thank you, > Donna Cuillard > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, > [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel > University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown > Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical > Society of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional > Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City > Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries > and Archives > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

To All Need help in finding a photographer with name of either "Bruul" or "Brunel" located a 1024 Chestnut St in either the late 1800s or early 1900s. Would like to know dates he was in business which in turn will help dating a family photo. Thanks for all help Stafford J. Keer sjkjaer@comcast.net

Could someone do a lookup for 1220-1224 N. Leithgow st. 1907/1908 names Frank/Ference Goetter/Gotter Thanks so much John

4004 Walnut Street is a valid address. What stands there is another question. It would be close to a corner property. 522 N. 19th St. is also valid. It is just north of Spring Garden St. 520 W. 19th St. is not valid. Mary McCanney Finley ----- Original Message ----- From: "eile" <eile@comcast.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] address > There seems to be some thought that the snippet at > http://home.comcast.net/~eile/1901.gif > says this: > > sister Minnie O'Hanlon > 4004 Walnut St. > > and below: > brother Pat Murphy > 522 N. 19th st > or > 520 W. 19th St > > Can anyone tell me, did 4004 walnut exist in 1901 Philly? > > I guess 522 N 19th is more likely, since I am told that numbered streets > ran north/south. > > Paul > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

4004 Walnut St. existed in 1901. Numbered streets run North and South.

There seems to be some thought that the snippet at http://home.comcast.net/~eile/1901.gif says this: sister Minnie O'Hanlon 4004 Walnut St. and below: brother Pat Murphy 522 N. 19th st or 520 W. 19th St Can anyone tell me, did 4004 walnut exist in 1901 Philly? I guess 522 N 19th is more likely, since I am told that numbered streets ran north/south. Paul

Mine went to Philly! sorry I should have clarified!!! The went from Donegal Ireland, to Delaware, then to Philly. They lived (and ran a boarding house) on Spring Garden St. Michael was born in 1832 and died of prostate disease in 1916. Roseanne (nee Shields) was born in 1837 and died in a kitchen fire (at the Spring Garden St addy)in 1914 (story is that she was cooking Ham and Cabbage). They had 5 children Daniel, Margaret Jane (who married Thomas Garrity) Mary, Catherine, and Ellen. Michael and Roseanna were married in Delaware. ~Dolly Beecher http://home.comcast.net/~cdbeech/ <http://home.comcast.net/~cdbeech/> -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Patton [mailto:nanpatn@enter.net] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:07 PM To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Patton My Patton's are from Philadelphia, James and Mary Patton b.1813-20 in Ireland. Came into Boston 1846 and later settle in Bristol. Thomas had the Bristol House around 1880-1900. He died 1904 in Bristol. James the bro. to Thomas live in Phila. he married Susan A. Dalton and their son John was my husband grand father. I don't think it is the same Pattons...Because James's son John had the children, Will, John, and E. Nice hearing from you. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beecher Family" <CDBeech@comcast.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:20 PM Subject: RE: [PAPHL] Patton > Nancy, I have Pattons too. They were from Ireland and moved to De and my > GGgandfather worked for DuPont Powder works. check my website for more > info > on my Pattons to see if there is any connection!!! > > ~Dolly Beecher > http://home.comcast.net/~cdbeech/ <http://home.comcast.net/~cdbeech/> > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nancy Patton [mailto:nanpatn@enter.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:06 PM > To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAPHL] Patton > > > I was told by the family that my John and Esther Redmond Patton ran away > to > N.J. around 1892-93. How can I find out any information on them. Nancy > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Search RootsWeb and Ancestry: > http://www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, > [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel > University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown > Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical > Society of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional > Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City > Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries > and Archives > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

You can try to get info about his service record from the National Archives. I've got several copies of their form NATF-86 (National Archives Order For Copies of Military Service Records). The forms instructions include the following: "DO NOT use this form for any request relating to military service in World War I or II, or subsequent service. Write to: National Personnel Records Center, Military Personnel Records, 9700 Page Avenue, St. Louis, MO 63132-5100. For additional information about these later records, visit eVetrecs at www.archives.gov". I don't know what places to suggest for any kind of medical information. Hope this helps. Stephen C. Shisler

I am after finding out that a relative died in 2/1957 at the Veterans' Hospital in Butler, PA. The hospital has refused to give me any information at all, medical or otherwise. Is there someone at the military that would have info about his military record? Thanks. Paul

My Patton's are from Philadelphia, James and Mary Patton b.1813-20 in Ireland. Came into Boston 1846 and later settle in Bristol. Thomas had the Bristol House around 1880-1900. He died 1904 in Bristol. James the bro. to Thomas live in Phila. he married Susan A. Dalton and their son John was my husband grand father. I don't think it is the same Pattons...Because James's son John had the children, Will, John, and E. Nice hearing from you. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beecher Family" <CDBeech@comcast.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:20 PM Subject: RE: [PAPHL] Patton > Nancy, I have Pattons too. They were from Ireland and moved to De and my > GGgandfather worked for DuPont Powder works. check my website for more > info > on my Pattons to see if there is any connection!!! > > ~Dolly Beecher > http://home.comcast.net/~cdbeech/ <http://home.comcast.net/~cdbeech/> > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nancy Patton [mailto:nanpatn@enter.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:06 PM > To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAPHL] Patton > > > I was told by the family that my John and Esther Redmond Patton ran away > to > N.J. around 1892-93. How can I find out any information on them. Nancy > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Search RootsWeb and Ancestry: > http://www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, > [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel > University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown > Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical > Society of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional > Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City > Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries > and Archives > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

thank you Larry. I have been looking and asking all over the place for this info. By the way, when I use that email address it always returns unable to find address.??????? Ann Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry B.<mailto:phillyhm@hotmail.com> To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Obits You can send for them by regular mail or e-mail. By mail: Send a written request with the person's name, date of death (month, day, year) or burial date and a stamped self-addressed envelope. We will only check two newspapers. The cost of photocopying from microfilm is 50 cents per page with a $1.00 minimum. Maximum of 2 obituaries can be requested at one time. Send request to: Free Library of Philadelphia Newspapers & Microfilm Center 1901 Vine Street Philadelphia PA 19103 Email: Send a written request with the person's name, date of death (month, day, year) or burial date. We will only check two newspapers. The cost of photocopying from microfilm is 50 cents per page with a $1.00 minimum. Maximum of 2 obituaries can be requested at one time. Send request to: erefNEWS@excen.library.phila.gov<mailto:erefNEWS@excen.library.phila.gov> Happy New Year! Larry B. ----Original Message Follows---- Can someone please tell me if they do look ups for obits? If you do can you please get in touch with me? I am in Texas so I have no way of visiting the library. Thank you, Cindy ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== FREE: unlimited webspace! http://freepages.rootsweb.com/<http://freepages.rootsweb.com/> ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>

You might try asking RAOGK for help. That's Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness. I have helped them and they have helped me on several occasions. Just type in raogk-admin@raogk.org<mailto:raogk-admin@raogkorg> ----- Original Message ----- From: Dutton Family<mailto:rdutton1@tampabay.rr.com> To: PAPHILAD-L@rootswebcom<mailto:PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Germantown Records Thank you for this information abt. the Lutheran Archives, it appears that they do not conduct paid Research, I live in Fla. and cannot travel.... it appears that hiring a Professional Researcher is the only alternative, does anyone have any further suggestions or something I have missed ? I thought perhaps the Lutheran Archives might have more extensive Records and files, other than the Records of the St Michaels Zion Church in Germantown ( I have those films at my FHC, very hard to read and most in German )...... perhaps there is a List or Index of the Holdings of the Lutheran Archives available somewhere, without having to go in person to the facility...... Thanks for help on this, Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: <ORGANIZR01@aol.com<mailto:ORGANIZR01@aol.com>> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Germantown Records > The Lutheran Archives is staffed by volunteers, usually two. It is a very > small place and you need an appointment to be able to research there > yourself. > They are open limited hours on limited days. > > It is difficult to get through to them on the phone, which is usually > busy. > You can request research but I waited about 6 months and got no response. > I > found that the records I needed, which is what you are working in, are > copies > of what they have. > > You might persist in calling them and explore with them what they have and > whether it would be worth your making a trip there, assuming, of course, > that > you are in the area. > > Good luck. > Merle > > ______________________________ > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== FREE: unlimited webspace! http://freepages.rootsweb.com/<http://freepages.rootsweb.com/> ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>

Actually, there's too much to it. Try this... erefNEWS@excen.library.phila.gov ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann W. Brown" <Cookiebrown11@msn.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Obits > thank you Larry. I have been looking and asking all over the place for > this info. By the way, when I use that email address it always returns > unable to find address.??????? > > Ann Brown > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Larry B.<mailto:phillyhm@hotmail.com> > To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:26 AM > Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Obits > > > You can send for them by regular mail or e-mail. > > By mail: Send a written request with the person's name, date of death > (month, day, year) or burial date and a stamped self-addressed envelope. > We > will only check two newspapers. The cost of photocopying from microfilm > is > 50 cents per page with a $1.00 minimum. Maximum of 2 obituaries can be > requested at one time. > > Send request to: Free Library of Philadelphia > > Newspapers & Microfilm Center > 1901 Vine Street > Philadelphia PA 19103 > > Email: Send a written request with the person's name, date of death > (month, > day, year) or burial date. We will only check two newspapers. The cost > of > photocopying from microfilm is 50 cents per page with a $1.00 minimum. > Maximum of 2 obituaries can be requested at one time. > > Send request to: > erefNEWS@excen.library.phila.gov<mailto:erefNEWS@excen.library.phila.gov> > > Happy New Year! > Larry B. > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > Can someone please tell me if they do look ups for obits? If you do can > you > please get in touch with me? I am in Texas so I have no way of visiting > the > library. > > > Thank you, > Cindy > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: unlimited webspace! > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/<http://freepages.rootsweb.com/> > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx> > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: Upload your GEDCOM to WorldConnect > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >