I have been in Oxford Twp., Chester Co. and I have been in what used to be Oxford Twp., Philadelphia. In fact, I went to Frankford High School on Oxford Ave. in Philadelphia in the last century. The two Oxford Townships are about 40 miles apart. I live in Philadelphia. Phila. Research

From my sister-in-law: "In a message dated 1/16/2006 5:40:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, drybones@netreach.net writes: Do you know if a St John's Lutheran Church still exists on Judson St, or if it merged, who with? I presume there is no longer a Danish Lutheran Synod. I know you kindly sent me a list, but this disorganized soul can't find it. According to the ELCA 2006 directory, the only St. John's in Philadelphia is the one at Tyson and Hawthorne........ Lutherans being the odd sort they are, they don't list other synods anywhere. I know there is still a Lutheran Church--Missouri Synod and a Wisconsin Synod. Never head of a Danish Lutheran Synod. Sorry I can't be more help. Sandy" Since she is a member of the church at Tyson and Hawthorne, I presume this is as good as you are going to get in terms of a current St John's. I don't remember hearing of a Danish United Synod either, but then I was raised German Reformed. If I hear of another St John's I will let you know. Elizabeth C Staff wrote: > Elizabeth > The church was St. John at 1950 N. Judson back in 1933. It was Danish > (Danish United Synod) > Thanks for any info. > Stafford J. Keer > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Cunningham" > <drybones@netreach.net> > To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:34 PM > Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Danish Lutheran Church > > >> I have a Lutheran relative and access to a list. What is the address >> you have? >> >> Elizabeth c >> >> Staff wrote: >> >>> Thanks. I suspect that I have aimed at the wrong list. I thought >>> someone might have a Philadelphia City Directory or Phone Book which >>> would answer the question. The FHL is a trip but perhaps they are >>> equipped to uncover the existence or nonexistence of that church. >>> Google seems to indicate that the Danes united with other Lutheran >>> branches in the Midwest but they do not mention a Philadelphia >>> branch. And I understand the Lutheran Library in Germantown is not >>> the easiest place to do research. What I am trying to find is >>> Lutheran records of my Danish ancestors in Philadelphia - >>> specifically where the children were baptized and/or confirmed. I >>> know names, birthdates and death dates but really would like yo know >>> about when and where they were baptized. >>> Google only provides a map for that address. >>> Stafford J. Keer >>> >> >> >> ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >> FREE: Upload your GEDCOM to WorldConnect >> http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > TO CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN, WRITE TO: > PAPHILAD-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Chester County was not formed from Philadelphia. The three original counties, established in 1682 by William Penn, were Bucks, Philadelphia and Chester. At no time was eastern PA all Philadelphia. You should not post misinformation. There was an Oxford Twp. in Philadelphia County until 1854 when it was consolidated with the other townships, districts and boroughs into the present City and County of Philadelphia.

In a message dated 1/16/2006 6:29:49 AM Central Standard Time, pete@intcomm.net writes: I am sorry - I do not know this line. I also checked a book of Apples i have and it is not on this line either. Thanks for checking. Fairly common name too, makes it a bit harder to pin down. Jim

I am sorry - I do not know this line. I also checked a book of Apples i have and it is not on this line either. Pete Apple ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jimrem@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] appel Lookups Needed > > In a message dated 1/15/2006 2:42:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, > pete@intcomm.net writes: > > I have been fortunate enough, with the help of other Appel researchers > (notably Mike Reeb) > > > Would any of the following be in your records? I have not found > information > on place of birth for John Henry, but they are my ancestors. His name > here > is probably Anglicized. Appel sometimes is spelled as Apple. > > > > Descendants of John Henry Appel > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. JOHN HENRY1 APPEL was born 1754, and died 13 Oct 1793 in Lutheran > cemetery (Philadelphia ??). He married MARY CHRISTINA. She was born > 1750, and > died 1841. > Children of JOHN APPEL and MARY CHRISTINA are: > 2. i. JOHN GEORGE2 APPEL, b. 07 Sep 1774; d. 10 Aug 1829. > 3. ii. ELIZABETH APPEL, b. 02 Oct 1780. > iii. CATHERINE APPEL, b. 03 Sep 1776; m. ANDREW TOY, 23 Jun 1799, > St. > Michael's Lutheran Church, Philadelphia, PA. > iv. HARRY APPEL, b. 12 Jan 1786; m. MARY MILLER. > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. JOHN GEORGE2 APPEL (JOHN HENRY1) was born 07 Sep 1774, and died 10 > Aug > 1829. He married SARAH ROSE, daughter of ROSE. She was born 07 Feb > 1788, > and died 04 May 1872. > More About JOHN GEORGE APPEL: > Baptism: 07 Sep 1774, St. Michael's and Zion Lutheran Church, > Philadelphia > Burial: Mt. Hood Cemetery > More About SARAH ROSE: > Burial: Mt. Hood Cemetery > Children of JOHN APPEL and SARAH ROSE are: > 4. i. SARAH3 APPEL, b. 15 Nov 1813, PA; d. 23 Feb 1903. > ii. JOHN APPEL, m. PHOEBE BAYER. > iii. MARY ANN APPEL. > iv. EMMA ELIZABETH APPEL, m. JOHN DEVINE. > v. ELIZABETH APPEL, m. HENRY KELLY. > vi. HENRY APPEL. > vii. PETER APPEL, d. New Orleans. > viii. WILLIAM APPEL. > 3. ELIZABETH2 APPEL (JOHN HENRY1) was born 02 Oct 1780. She married > WILLIAM KELLY. > Child of ELIZABETH APPEL and WILLIAM KELLY is: > i. HENRY3 KELLY. > > Generation No. 3 > > 4. SARAH3 APPEL (JOHN GEORGE2, JOHN HENRY1) was born 15 Nov 1813 in > PA, > and died 23 Feb 1903. She married BENJAMIN MYRTETUS, son of JOHAN > MYRTETUS > and SUSANNA BOYER. He was born 20 Sep 1809, and died 07 Dec 1878. > Notes for SARAH APPEL: > MYRTETUS. Feb. 23, 1903. Sarah Ann Myrtetus, widow of late Benjamin > Myrtetus, in her 90th year. Relatives and friends of family are invited > to attend > funeral services, Thursday afternoon, 1 o'clock, from residence of her > son-in-law, Robert H Hales, 1826 Moyamensing avenue. Interment private > Hood > Cemetery, Germantown. > Inquirer, February 25, 1903, Pg. 7 > - - - - > More About SARAH APPEL: > Burial: Mt. Hood Cemetery > Notes for BENJAMIN MYRTETUS: > MYRTETUS -- On the 7th instant, BENJAMIN MYRTETUS, aged 69 years. The > relatives and friends of the family are respectfully invited to attend > the > funeral, on Wednesday afternoon, at 2 o'clock, from his late residence. > No. 15 > Seymour street, Germantown. To proceed to Hood's Cemetery for interment. > **623 > Public Ledger, December 10, 1878, Pg. 2 > - - - - > More About BENJAMIN MYRTETUS: > Baptism: 17 Dec 1809, Brethern Congregation, Phila. > Burial: 11 Dec 1878, Mt. Hood Cemetery (aka Germantown Lower cemetery, > Germantown Ave & Logan St. > Occupation: Ship's carpenter > Children of SARAH APPEL and BENJAMIN MYRTETUS are: > i. SARAH ANN4 MYRTETUS, b. 05 May 1833; d. As a child. > ii. WILLIAM R MYRTETUS, b. 25 Jul 1834; d. 06 Jun 1891. > 5. iii. MARY A. MYRTETUS, b. 25 Jul 1836; d. 27 Jul 1893. > iv. JOHN B. MYRTETUS, b. 17 Sep 1838; d. 08 Feb 1913. > 6. v. ADELAID MYRTETUS, b. 12 Feb 1841; d. 02 Jan 1929. > 7. vi. SARAH ELVA MYRTETUS, b. 30 Jun 1843; d. 25 Jan 1888, > Philadelphia. > 8. vii. AMANDA MYRTETUS, b. 01 Sep 1845; d. 30 Dec 1928. > viii. EMMA E MYRTETUS, b. 21 Oct 1847; d. 04 Jun 1913. > ix. ELIZABETH K MYRTETUS, b. 01 Jan 1850; d. 21 Jun 1928. > 9. x. HARRY MYRTETUS, b. 08 Jan 1853. > Thanks, > Jim in Oklahoma > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: Upload your GEDCOM to WorldConnect > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

In a message dated 1/13/2006 9:01:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, PAPHILAD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: From: DCuillard@aol.com To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <85.35d97c7f.30f937a4@aol.com> Subject: Possible Military 1800-1848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I have Benjamin Hart Brown, born 5 June 1800 and died January 27, 1848 in Oxford Township, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania. Does anyone know of any military service that might apply to this time period? I am seeking information on his parents, siblings, etc. Thank you, Donna Cuillard I believe that in 1848. Oxford Township, Chester County might still have been part of Philadelphia County. You'd have to look and see when they split up the counties. At one point, most of eastern Penna. was part of Philadelphia COUNTY. which used to be different that the boundaries of the city. That was revised somewhere along the line but god help me, I can't remember when. So check that possibility out too. _Beth Cherkowsky Researching Bradley, Forrester/Forrestal, Donohue, Boylan, Manning, McHugh, Cormac, Manning, Fountas, Czerkaukus, Liaundanskas, in Ireland, Russia/Lithuania, Greece, Scotland and the USA._ (http://members.aol.com/cougartoys/alley.html)

Edward Apple, from Germantown, was in the Civil War, Co B, 51st PA Vols. He was born in: Germany. He was a member of Ellis Post 6, Grand Army of the Republic, Germantown, Philadelphia, PA. Elected to Ellis Post 6 GAR on 21 April 1881 Age: 49 Sndtenterprises Genealogical and Historical Research

The Hood Cemetery in Germantown (the Lower Burial Ground) is not Mt. Hood, just the Hood or Hood's Cemetery. There is no Mt. Hood Cemetery in Germantown. The records for the Hood Cemetery are at the Germantown Historical Society, 5501 Germantown Ave., Phila., PA 19144 _www.germantownhistory.org_ (http://www.germantownhistory.org) Sndtenterprises Genealogical and Historical Research

Elizabeth The church was St. John at 1950 N. Judson back in 1933. It was Danish (Danish United Synod) Thanks for any info. Stafford J. Keer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Cunningham" <drybones@netreach.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Danish Lutheran Church >I have a Lutheran relative and access to a list. What is the address you >have? > > Elizabeth c > > Staff wrote: > >> Thanks. I suspect that I have aimed at the wrong list. I thought someone >> might have a Philadelphia City Directory or Phone Book which would answer >> the question. The FHL is a trip but perhaps they are equipped to uncover >> the existence or nonexistence of that church. Google seems to indicate >> that the Danes united with other Lutheran branches in the Midwest but >> they do not mention a Philadelphia branch. And I understand the Lutheran >> Library in Germantown is not the easiest place to do research. What I am >> trying to find is Lutheran records of my Danish ancestors in >> Philadelphia - specifically where the children were baptized and/or >> confirmed. I know names, birthdates and death dates but really would like >> yo know about when and where they were baptized. >> Google only provides a map for that address. >> Stafford J. Keer >> > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: Upload your GEDCOM to WorldConnect > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

In a message dated 1/15/2006 2:42:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, pete@intcomm.net writes: I have been fortunate enough, with the help of other Appel researchers (notably Mike Reeb) Would any of the following be in your records? I have not found information on place of birth for John Henry, but they are my ancestors. His name here is probably Anglicized. Appel sometimes is spelled as Apple. Descendants of John Henry Appel Generation No. 1 1. JOHN HENRY1 APPEL was born 1754, and died 13 Oct 1793 in Lutheran cemetery (Philadelphia ??). He married MARY CHRISTINA. She was born 1750, and died 1841. Children of JOHN APPEL and MARY CHRISTINA are: 2. i. JOHN GEORGE2 APPEL, b. 07 Sep 1774; d. 10 Aug 1829. 3. ii. ELIZABETH APPEL, b. 02 Oct 1780. iii. CATHERINE APPEL, b. 03 Sep 1776; m. ANDREW TOY, 23 Jun 1799, St. Michael's Lutheran Church, Philadelphia, PA. iv. HARRY APPEL, b. 12 Jan 1786; m. MARY MILLER. Generation No. 2 2. JOHN GEORGE2 APPEL (JOHN HENRY1) was born 07 Sep 1774, and died 10 Aug 1829. He married SARAH ROSE, daughter of ROSE. She was born 07 Feb 1788, and died 04 May 1872. More About JOHN GEORGE APPEL: Baptism: 07 Sep 1774, St. Michael's and Zion Lutheran Church, Philadelphia Burial: Mt. Hood Cemetery More About SARAH ROSE: Burial: Mt. Hood Cemetery Children of JOHN APPEL and SARAH ROSE are: 4. i. SARAH3 APPEL, b. 15 Nov 1813, PA; d. 23 Feb 1903. ii. JOHN APPEL, m. PHOEBE BAYER. iii. MARY ANN APPEL. iv. EMMA ELIZABETH APPEL, m. JOHN DEVINE. v. ELIZABETH APPEL, m. HENRY KELLY. vi. HENRY APPEL. vii. PETER APPEL, d. New Orleans. viii. WILLIAM APPEL. 3. ELIZABETH2 APPEL (JOHN HENRY1) was born 02 Oct 1780. She married WILLIAM KELLY. Child of ELIZABETH APPEL and WILLIAM KELLY is: i. HENRY3 KELLY. Generation No. 3 4. SARAH3 APPEL (JOHN GEORGE2, JOHN HENRY1) was born 15 Nov 1813 in PA, and died 23 Feb 1903. She married BENJAMIN MYRTETUS, son of JOHAN MYRTETUS and SUSANNA BOYER. He was born 20 Sep 1809, and died 07 Dec 1878. Notes for SARAH APPEL: MYRTETUS. Feb. 23, 1903. Sarah Ann Myrtetus, widow of late Benjamin Myrtetus, in her 90th year. Relatives and friends of family are invited to attend funeral services, Thursday afternoon, 1 o'clock, from residence of her son-in-law, Robert H Hales, 1826 Moyamensing avenue. Interment private Hood Cemetery, Germantown. Inquirer, February 25, 1903, Pg. 7 - - - - More About SARAH APPEL: Burial: Mt. Hood Cemetery Notes for BENJAMIN MYRTETUS: MYRTETUS -- On the 7th instant, BENJAMIN MYRTETUS, aged 69 years. The relatives and friends of the family are respectfully invited to attend the funeral, on Wednesday afternoon, at 2 o'clock, from his late residence. No. 15 Seymour street, Germantown. To proceed to Hood's Cemetery for interment. **623 Public Ledger, December 10, 1878, Pg. 2 - - - - More About BENJAMIN MYRTETUS: Baptism: 17 Dec 1809, Brethern Congregation, Phila. Burial: 11 Dec 1878, Mt. Hood Cemetery (aka Germantown Lower cemetery, Germantown Ave & Logan St. Occupation: Ship's carpenter Children of SARAH APPEL and BENJAMIN MYRTETUS are: i. SARAH ANN4 MYRTETUS, b. 05 May 1833; d. As a child. ii. WILLIAM R MYRTETUS, b. 25 Jul 1834; d. 06 Jun 1891. 5. iii. MARY A. MYRTETUS, b. 25 Jul 1836; d. 27 Jul 1893. iv. JOHN B. MYRTETUS, b. 17 Sep 1838; d. 08 Feb 1913. 6. v. ADELAID MYRTETUS, b. 12 Feb 1841; d. 02 Jan 1929. 7. vi. SARAH ELVA MYRTETUS, b. 30 Jun 1843; d. 25 Jan 1888, Philadelphia. 8. vii. AMANDA MYRTETUS, b. 01 Sep 1845; d. 30 Dec 1928. viii. EMMA E MYRTETUS, b. 21 Oct 1847; d. 04 Jun 1913. ix. ELIZABETH K MYRTETUS, b. 01 Jan 1850; d. 21 Jun 1928. 9. x. HARRY MYRTETUS, b. 08 Jan 1853. Thanks, Jim in Oklahoma

I have a Lutheran relative and access to a list. What is the address you have? Elizabeth c Staff wrote: > Thanks. I suspect that I have aimed at the wrong list. I thought > someone might have a Philadelphia City Directory or Phone Book which > would answer the question. The FHL is a trip but perhaps they are > equipped to uncover the existence or nonexistence of that church. > Google seems to indicate that the Danes united with other Lutheran > branches in the Midwest but they do not mention a Philadelphia branch. > And I understand the Lutheran Library in Germantown is not the easiest > place to do research. What I am trying to find is Lutheran records of > my Danish ancestors in Philadelphia - specifically where the children > were baptized and/or confirmed. I know names, birthdates and death > dates but really would like yo know about when and where they were > baptized. > Google only provides a map for that address. > Stafford J. Keer >

To all- This is a perfect example of the reason I don't like to see discussions of specific resources get started on the list. There are as many opinions as there are people who want to post a message about the topic. So, let's drop this discussion now. Thanks! Joan, admin

In a message dated 1/15/2006 5:13:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, organizr01@aol.com writes: The LDS website is familysearch.org (not .com). It offers relatively little information, but promotes it's FHL and FHC's by providing a catalogue of its holdings, though there is some free census information. Merle Beg to differ with you here, Merle, I have found alot of information on the LDS site. From hints of where to look, i.e., church records, census, town records, etc. You can also get info on the holdings of the church, Microfilm, Microfiech, books etc. These can be ordered from the Family History Center near you, you go to the center (THEY NEVER ASK IF YOU'D LIKE TO BECOME A MEMBER - CAPALIZED, NOT YELLED, SO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN). Ordering the film, etc costs under $5.00 where a trip, to Arkansas - where I need info from now - costs considerably more. I live in the Philadelphia, PA area, father's family comes from Wilmington, DE.....yea, I know, just 50 miles down I-95. The nearest LDS FHC is about 5 miles away. Visited Wilmington many times, found nothing. Gave LDS a chance, and what did I get? My long lost grand father as well as his parents and the church that the whole family went to from 1870 thru present. Well worth the cost of renting the Microfilm as well as the time (2 hours) that I put in. So, don't sell the LDS site short, there's info there, if you are willing to look for it. They also have access to Ancestry.com (free). Kate Pitluck P S have been into genealogy since 1975, and I am a volunteer. Need info from the Phila area? I'll try to get it for you. I specialize in cemeteries - pictures and listings.

Thanks. I suspect that I have aimed at the wrong list. I thought someone might have a Philadelphia City Directory or Phone Book which would answer the question. The FHL is a trip but perhaps they are equipped to uncover the existence or nonexistence of that church. Google seems to indicate that the Danes united with other Lutheran branches in the Midwest but they do not mention a Philadelphia branch. And I understand the Lutheran Library in Germantown is not the easiest place to do research. What I am trying to find is Lutheran records of my Danish ancestors in Philadelphia - specifically where the children were baptized and/or confirmed. I know names, birthdates and death dates but really would like yo know about when and where they were baptized. Google only provides a map for that address. Stafford J. Keer ----- Original Message ----- From: <Adamsgen@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Danish Lutheran Church > > In a message dated 1/13/2006 1:05:11 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, > sjkjaer@comcast.net writes: > > I do not have Philadelphia directories or phone books at my disposal. > > > > Don't you have a Family History Library in your area? The directories > would > be on their films. > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Search RootsWeb and Ancestry: > http://www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

The LDS website is familysearch.org (not .com). It offers relatively little information, but promotes it's FHL and FHC's by providing a catalogue of its holdings, though there is some free census information. Merle

go to FamilySearch.com it is the Latter day saints website and it is free On 1/14/06, Frank O'Neil <fjoneil@cox.net> wrote: > > Sorry Joan, FJO : < ( > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> > To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 12:40 PM > Subject: Re: [PAPHL] research sites -- ADMIN > > > > > > In a message dated 1/14/2006 3:11:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > fjoneil@cox.net writes: > > > > This is a broad based question. There are a lot of on-line fee based > > research services out there and as I am retired and on very limited > > income I would > > like to poll other researchers > > as to their opinion where one would get the most "BANG" for their > dollar. > > Any and all advise will be most appreciated. > > FJO > > > > > > > > --- > > Please reply privately and not on the list if you wish to comment to the > > poster on this subject. In the past I've learned that there are as many > > opinions as there are people wanting to comment about this and not all > > opinions are > > well-based in factual information--and discussion soon turns into > > argument > > and gets out of hand. > > > > All of the above is in addition to the fact that the discussion goes > > beyond > > the scope of this list's subject matter. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Joan, admin > > PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > > FREE: Upload your GEDCOM to WorldConnect > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > TO CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN, WRITE TO: > PAPHILAD-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 1/13/2006 1:05:11 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, sjkjaer@comcast.net writes: I do not have Philadelphia directories or phone books at my disposal. Don't you have a Family History Library in your area? The directories would be on their films.

I am looking for information on this family. Johann Adam Appel and his father Thomas arrived in Philadelphia on the ship Ranier in 1749. They lived in Pennsylvania before they moved to North Carolina. By 1783 Johann Adam Appel bought land from the State of North Carolina in Guilford County. Specifically - what was Johann Adam Appel's wife's name? (Probably married mid 1760s). Also: Where did his Father, Thomas, die and when (probably mid 1760s)? I have been unable to locate a marriage record for him or a birth/baptism record for his children listed below in bold type. Their places of birth are not verified. The family was probably Lutheran. I have been fortunate enough, with the help of other Appel researchers (notably Mike Reeb) to find and translate documents on his ancestry to the early 17th Century in Germany! I am including that ancestry here, should there be anyone else researching this family (I can certainly provide copies of the documentation to anyone interested). Learning Old German Script is certainly a challenge, but it can be done! I have found that the Script from some parts of Germany is much more difficult to read than the Script from other parts. I worked on this several years ago so am quite rusty now (use it or loose it!). Thanks again to anyone willing to help. Pete Apple Descendants of Balthasar Appel 1 Balthasar Appel b: Abt. 1610 d: November 21, 1658 in Oberseemen, Hesse, Germany .. +Maria _____? b: 1612 d: August 22, 1701 in Oberseemen, Hesse, Germany 2 Hans Appel b: 1647 in Oberseemen, Germany d: August 07, 1705 in Oberseemen, Germany ... +Margarethe Caspar Joster m: October 21, 1692 in Oberseemen, Hesse, Germany 3 Heinrich Appel b: June 1693 in Oberseemen, Hesse, Germany d: February 05, 1694 3 Heinrich Appel b: March 13, 1695 in Oberseemen, Germany d: May 04, 1764 in Oberseemen, Germany .... +Catharina Thiel b: October 29, 1693 d: January 20, 1763 in Oberseemen, Germany 3 Thomas Appel b: March 25, 1697 in Oberseemen, Hesse, Germany d: Abt. 1765 in Exeter Twshp, Berks County, PA .... +Maria Catharina Gross b: February 24, 1696 in Steinberg, Germany m: September 14, 1724 in Lutheran Church, Hirzenhain, Hesse, Germany d: in Berks County, PA . 4 Johannes Appel . 4 Thomas Appel . 4 Anna Appel b: December 13, 1725 in Hirzenhain, Hesse, Germany d: July 07, 1733 in Usenborn, Hesse, Germany . 4 Johan Adam Appel b: September 10, 1732 in Usenborn, Germany d: Abt. 1810 in Guilford County, North Carolina .. 5 Thomas Apple b: 1769 ..... +_____? b: Abt. 1738 in Pennsylvania m: Abt. 1760 in Pennsylvania d: Bet. 1800 - 1810 .. 5 Hannah Apple ...... +Adam Lowman m: July 22, 1817 in Guilford County, North Carolina .. 5 John Apple, Sr. b: 1763 in Exeter, Berks Co., Pennsylvania d: May 1816 in Guilford County, North Carolina ...... +Barbara _____? b: Bef. 1765 d: Aft. September 15, 1842 in Guilford County, North Carolina .. 5 Daniel Apple b: 1761 in Bethlehem or Nazareth, Pennsylvania d: August 1849 in Guilford County, North Carolina ...... +Barbara Spoon m: Abt. 1782 .. 5 Susannah Catherine Apple b: Abt. 1762 in Lancaster Pennsylvania d: Abt. 1822 in Snow Hill, Alamance, North Carolina ...... +George Williard m: July 1783 d: Abt. 1822 in Stokes Co., North Carolina .. 5 Thomas Apple, Sr. b: November 30, 1769 in Pennsylvania d: April 26, 1861 in Orange Co., Indiana ...... +Christina Jane Parks b: May 15, 1774 d: September 24, 1846 .. 5 Adam C. Apple b: December 24, 1776 in Exeter, Berks Co., Pennsylvania d: June 08, 1862 in Guilford County, North Carolina ...... +Christina Jane Iseley b: March 19, 1778 d: January 20, 1854 in Guilford County, North Carolina 3 Anna Appel b: March 10, 1699 in Oberseemen, Germany 2 Anna Appel b: February 22, 1651 in Oberseemen, Germany d: October 25, 1718 in Oberseemen, Germany 2 Christoph Appel b: December 27, 1654 in Oberseemen, Germany d: September 04, 1655 in Oberseemen, Germany 2 Juliana Elisabetha Appel b: March 01, 1657 in Oberseemen, Germany d: February 22, 1707 in Oberseemen, Germany

Hell0 Everyone, Would someone please do a look-up for me in the Phila. City Directory for William G. HALLMAN. I know he was a cigar maker in Phila. in 1870 (Ward 20) as well as in 1880. According to census info (I don't have the actual images) he would have been b. abt. 1844 in PA, m. to Salena (?KRAUS?), b. abt. 1839 or 1847 in PA and had 4 Children. That's about the only info I have on him. Thanks for the Help ~ Dori

This is a very subjective question. We each like different things, but the fact is that genealogy is a very expensive hobby unless you live in the city where your ancestors lived. Even then, getting various records can be quite costly, like a $30 marriage certificate. Good luck. Merle -----Original Message----- From: Frank O'Neil <fjoneil@cox.net> To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:11:14 -0800 Subject: [PAPHL] research sites This is a broad based question. There are a lot of on-line fee based research services out there and as I am retired and on very limited income I would like to poll other researchers as to their opinion where one would get the most "BANG" for their dollar. Any and all advise will be most appreciated. FJO ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== FREE: unlimited webspace! http://freepages.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx