Sorry- HSP= Historical Society of PA FHL=Family History Library, in Salt Lake City and where local Family History Centers located in Mormon churches throught the world get their microfilm and microfiche from. Merle -----Original Message----- From: Philip Dreger <Blubayou@Gulftel.com> To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:05:29 -0600 Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Marriage Records ca. 1860 Hate to appear dumb but what is HSP and FHL and do they have addresses or websites ? ----- Original Message ----- From: <organizr01@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Marriage Records ca. 1860 > The HSP has the indexes. They charge a fee for research, if they still do > it. I think the FHL has the registrations. Check familysearch.org for the > LDS catalogue, then Philadelphia--Philadelphia--Pennsylvania, then vital > records. > > Merle > > -----Original Message----- > From: GHIBBEN@aol.com > To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:29:15 EST > Subject: [PAPHL] Marriage Records ca. 1860 > > > Hello List - > I'm new to this list and hope someone might be able to point me in the > right direction. !'m looking for marriage records for a James Davis, b. > 1840 > who married a Maria or Mariana in the Philadelphia area about 1860-1862. > Is > there a source for marriage licenses available on line or elsewhere. > Thanks for > > any assistance you might provide. > George in MA > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > mailto:PAPHILAD-L-request@RootsWeb.com for list mode or > mailto:PAPHILAD-D-request@RootsWeb.com for digest mode > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > mailto:PAPHILAD-L-request@RootsWeb.com for list mode or > mailto:PAPHILAD-D-request@RootsWeb.com for digest mode > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== FREE: unlimited webspace! http://freepages.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hate to appear dumb but what is HSP and FHL and do they have addresses or websites ? ----- Original Message ----- From: <organizr01@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Marriage Records ca. 1860 > The HSP has the indexes. They charge a fee for research, if they still do > it. I think the FHL has the registrations. Check familysearch.org for the > LDS catalogue, then Philadelphia--Philadelphia--Pennsylvania, then vital > records. > > Merle > > -----Original Message----- > From: GHIBBEN@aol.com > To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:29:15 EST > Subject: [PAPHL] Marriage Records ca. 1860 > > > Hello List - > I'm new to this list and hope someone might be able to point me in the > right direction. !'m looking for marriage records for a James Davis, b. > 1840 > who married a Maria or Mariana in the Philadelphia area about 1860-1862. > Is > there a source for marriage licenses available on line or elsewhere. > Thanks for > > any assistance you might provide. > George in MA > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > mailto:PAPHILAD-L-request@RootsWeb.com for list mode or > mailto:PAPHILAD-D-request@RootsWeb.com for digest mode > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > mailto:PAPHILAD-L-request@RootsWeb.com for list mode or > mailto:PAPHILAD-D-request@RootsWeb.com for digest mode > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

The HSP has the indexes. They charge a fee for research, if they still do it. I think the FHL has the registrations. Check familysearch.org for the LDS catalogue, then Philadelphia--Philadelphia--Pennsylvania, then vital records. Merle -----Original Message----- From: GHIBBEN@aol.com To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:29:15 EST Subject: [PAPHL] Marriage Records ca. 1860 Hello List - I'm new to this list and hope someone might be able to point me in the right direction. !'m looking for marriage records for a James Davis, b. 1840 who married a Maria or Mariana in the Philadelphia area about 1860-1862. Is there a source for marriage licenses available on line or elsewhere. Thanks for any assistance you might provide. George in MA ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== To leave the list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to mailto:PAPHILAD-L-request@RootsWeb.com for list mode or mailto:PAPHILAD-D-request@RootsWeb.com for digest mode ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hello List - I'm new to this list and hope someone might be able to point me in the right direction. !'m looking for marriage records for a James Davis, b. 1840 who married a Maria or Mariana in the Philadelphia area about 1860-1862. Is there a source for marriage licenses available on line or elsewhere. Thanks for any assistance you might provide. George in MA

I am trying to determine the marriage date of my great grandparents, Christopher Petzelt and Virginia Adelaide Dryden Mansfield. She was listed in the 1877 Philadelphia City Directory as Widow Mansfield living at 820 N. 8th St. He was listed as living there also. Their first child was born in September 1879 so they were probably married between 1877-1879. One source I have, which is of dubious value, says they were married on 7 May but didn't say what year. Any clues would be appreciated. Craig TenBroeck

In a message dated 01 31 2006 9:09:39 AM, PAPHILAD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Seeking parents and siblings of Walter Black, born November 19, 1882 in Pennsylvania, possibly Philadelphia County. ... He married Elsie M. Stritzel in PA 1909/10 as they were newly weds on the 1910 census in Philadelphia County. ... >> ooooo You may obtain a copy of the 1882 Phila. birth record by requesting it from the city archives. A marriage record may be obtained from Phila. city hall marriage room #415. Read this list's archives for details. You could also read the websites for Register of Wills and city archives for details. Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] botwinick@aol.com botwinick@alumni.rowan.edu MEBotwinick@alumni.temple.edu http://hometown.aol.com/botwinick/myhomepage/index.html

You said your father-in-law's cousin was George Straub. I don't have any info on the family, but I was wondering if you might be related to John and Alice Straub? They would have been born about 1925/1930 and lived in the Northeast Village in the 50's & early 60's. I was too young to remember, but my mom speaks of her old neighbors fondly. I have a picture of John & Alice's son, Johnny Straub when he made his 1st Holy Communion. Any connection? Debbie Yerkes Bear ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott R. Vaughn" <scottrvaughn@comcast.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: [PAPHL] Straub and Merta 1930 > George L. Straub was born about 1930 In Philadelphia and died December 24, 2005 in Boyertown, PA. His obituary identified his parents as Jacob Straub and Jennie Merta. He was my father-in-law's cousin. If anyone has additional data about Jacob and Jenny, I would appreciate seeing it. I have some information about the Mertas of Philadelphia that I would be happy to share with anyone who is interested. > >

Seeking information on the marriage of Walter Black and Elsie M. Stritzel in PA, possibly Philadelphia county, in 1909 or early 1910. They were newlyweds on the 1910 Philadelphia City Census (36th Ward of the City) which was taken in April of 1910. Michele

Seeking parents and siblings of Walter Black, born November 19, 1882 in Pennsylvania, possibly Philadelphia County. His parents were most likely from Ireland but we have no other information on them. He married Elsie M. Stritzel in PA 1909/10 as they were newly weds on the 1910 census in Philadelphia County. He indicated that his parents were from Ireland on the 1910 census. Stritzels have a long history in Philadelphia County. Michele GO Seahawks!

Hello Barbara and readers, This question came up a couple years ago by a stamp collector who had seen an envelope with the Anti-Cobden Club return address It was sent from 1891 Philadelphia. From <http://www.cobdenclub.co.uk/about.html> : "Richard Cobden was a previous generation (d.1865) English politician who favored workers and free-trade. Cobden Clubs were begun in England [and America?] to promote his ideas. When the Civil War threatened to break out in the United States, Cobden was deeply distressed. After the conflict became inevitable his sympathies were wholly with the North, because the South was fighting for slavery. His great anxiety, however, was that the British nation should not be committed to any unworthy course during the progress of that struggle. And when relations with America were becoming critical and menacing in consequence of the depredations committed on American commerce by vessels issuing from British ports, he brought the question before the House of Commons in a series of speeches of rare clearness and...." Thus, the Cobden movement begot an anti-Cobden movement and clubs. A guess is that the Anti's were businessmen who favored high tariffs on incoming goods, hoping to reduce foreign competition, and/or those who disliked spending taxes on public arts and enrichment projects aimed at the working class. Or . . . ? Tom Clarke 1-29-06

Lorraine, Institutions(s): St. Joseph's Protectorate of the House of the Good Shepherd Enumeration District 46-102 (1930) http://www.us-census.org/states/pennsylvania/teams/Montgomery1930-T626-2083.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kelleywood/eastpennsylvania/1900censusreturns.html Church in Norristown: Saint Josephs Protectorate (Montgomery County) http://www.city-data.com/city/Norristown-Pennsylvania.html I don't see Saint Josephs Protectorate showing up in Norristown in present day. This may be the place to start: Sisters of St Joseph (610) 272-3686 Buttonwood & Oak STS Norristown, PA 19401 Teresa > Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:59:10 -0800 (PST) > From: l faris <phillyirish2003@yahoo.com> > To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: St. Joseph's Protectorate of the House of the Good Shepherd, Norristown > > Hello, > It appears that a great Aunt resided at the St. > Joseph Protectorate (Norristown, PA) in 1920. I'm > trying to find out if there is any information from > that time. Any suggestions where I should look? > > Thanks > Lorraine > Maryland There are only two lasting gifts that we can give to our children. One is Roots, the other Wings. http://www.flottgenealogy.com

Hello, It appears that a great Aunt resided at the St. Joseph Protectorate (Norristown, PA) in 1920. I'm trying to find out if there is any information from that time. Any suggestions where I should look? Thanks Lorraine Maryland --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos

could this be it? http://www.cobdenclub.co.uk/ Anti that club... Scanned for viruses by SYMANTEC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara McCormick" <geneslady@ec.rr.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 10:23 AM Subject: [PAPHL] Anti-Cobden Club in Philly >I just rec'd a copy of an obit for my gg uncle, William C. Neff, who died >27 May 1919 in Philadelphia. Among the many organizations he belonged to >one was the Anti-Cobden Club. I used "google" and found a few listings >with that organization; however they were all obits from Philadelphia - >nothing about the organization itself. William was a Vet with the City of >Philadelphia. He also belonged to the Police Beneficial Association, 19th >Ward Executive Committee, and employee of Police Van Stables and Recorder >of Deeds Office. > > Can anyone shed any light on the Anti-Cobden Club? > > > Barbara > in Wilmington, NC > > "I've never met a tombstone I couldn't relate to....." > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: unlimited webspace! > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

I see the Cobden Club in England........however, was the Anti-Cobden Club in Philly associated with it? Or "anti" the Cobden Club in England? Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Regina Nau" <reginanau@msn.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 11:43 AM Subject: RE: [PAPHL] Anti-Cobden Club in Philly > Barbara, > > Go to Google and type in Cobden Club - you'll be able to see what it was. > > >>From: "Barbara McCormick" <geneslady@ec.rr.com> >>Reply-To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >>To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [PAPHL] Anti-Cobden Club in Philly >>Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:23:54 -0500 >> >>I just rec'd a copy of an obit for my gg uncle, William C. Neff, who died >>27 May 1919 in Philadelphia. Among the many organizations he belonged to >>one was the Anti-Cobden Club. I used "google" and found a few listings >>with that organization; however they were all obits from Philadelphia - >>nothing about the organization itself. William was a Vet with the City of >>Philadelphia. He also belonged to the Police Beneficial Association, 19th >>Ward Executive Committee, and employee of Police Van Stables and Recorder >>of Deeds Office. >> >>Can anyone shed any light on the Anti-Cobden Club? >> >> >>Barbara >>in Wilmington, NC >> >>"I've never met a tombstone I couldn't relate to....." >> >> >>==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >>FREE: unlimited webspace! >>http://freepages.rootsweb.com/ >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, [ARI]Annenberg > Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel University Library, > FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown Historical Society, > GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical Society of PA, LC)Library > Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional Branch-Philadelphia, > PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City Hall, > (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries > and Archives > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Barbara, Go to Google and type in Cobden Club - you'll be able to see what it was. >From: "Barbara McCormick" <geneslady@ec.rr.com> >Reply-To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PAPHL] Anti-Cobden Club in Philly >Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:23:54 -0500 > >I just rec'd a copy of an obit for my gg uncle, William C. Neff, who died >27 May 1919 in Philadelphia. Among the many organizations he belonged to >one was the Anti-Cobden Club. I used "google" and found a few listings >with that organization; however they were all obits from Philadelphia - >nothing about the organization itself. William was a Vet with the City of >Philadelphia. He also belonged to the Police Beneficial Association, 19th >Ward Executive Committee, and employee of Police Van Stables and Recorder >of Deeds Office. > >Can anyone shed any light on the Anti-Cobden Club? > > >Barbara >in Wilmington, NC > >"I've never met a tombstone I couldn't relate to....." > > >==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >FREE: unlimited webspace! >http://freepages.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I just rec'd a copy of an obit for my gg uncle, William C. Neff, who died 27 May 1919 in Philadelphia. Among the many organizations he belonged to one was the Anti-Cobden Club. I used "google" and found a few listings with that organization; however they were all obits from Philadelphia - nothing about the organization itself. William was a Vet with the City of Philadelphia. He also belonged to the Police Beneficial Association, 19th Ward Executive Committee, and employee of Police Van Stables and Recorder of Deeds Office. Can anyone shed any light on the Anti-Cobden Club? Barbara in Wilmington, NC "I've never met a tombstone I couldn't relate to....."

George L. Straub was born about 1930 In Philadelphia and died December 24, 2005 in Boyertown, PA. His obituary identified his parents as Jacob Straub and Jennie Merta. He was my father-in-law's cousin. If anyone has additional data about Jacob and Jenny, I would appreciate seeing it. I have some information about the Mertas of Philadelphia that I would be happy to share with anyone who is interested.

Ann; No unfortunately, his name was Joseph Dietrich, from Riverside,NJ. The first name of Riverside was Prospertown. The size of Riverside is 1 1/2 sq. mile---------Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Brown" <cookiebrown11@gmail.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Access to OLD Post Office employment records > Albert, > I too have a great, great grandfather who was a postmaster in the small town > of Belvidere, NJ 1873-1881. He died in 1896. We aren't speeking of the same > gentelman, are we ? > > Ann > > > On 1/23/06, Albert F. Dietrich <aldietrich@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > I was looking for my great Uncle, who was a postmaster in a small town in > > NJ. I called U.S. Postal Library Headguarters in Washington, DC. They gave > > me the History of my G-uncle tenure, he died in 1895. The phone number is > > 1-202-268-2904. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "l faris" <phillyirish2003@yahoo.com> > > To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 9:29 PM > > Subject: [PAPHL] Access to OLD Post Office employment records > > > > > > > Hello, > > > An ancestor worked for the post office in 1860. Does anyone know if > > there are records from that time? Where should I look? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on > > new and used cars. > > > > > > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > > > TO CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN, WRITE TO: > > > PAPHILAD-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > ============================== > > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing > > lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, > > start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > -- > Ann Brown " Cookie" > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I am new to this list although I have researched numerous ancestors who are connected to the Philadelphia area. A brief list of some of the PA surnames I am researching..... spanning 1680s to 1850s with given name of oldest documented ancestor.. COATES/COATS/COTES -- Thomas (abt. 1682-1772) SISSOM/SYSOM/SISAM -- Joan (died 1729 as widow of James Clemson) PEGG -- Daniel (died 1702) ALLEN -- Samuel died 1710) LINDSEY -- Alexander (died 1729) HOLSTEIN -- Matts/Mathias (1644-1708) HULINGS -- Marcus (1686-1757) SMITH -- Nathaniel (surviving son Charles born 1816) in 1870s McINTYRE/McENTIRE -- Charles (born around 1844 Ireland, likely had brother named James) worked for the Union Pacific RR. BRADLEY -- Mary (born around 1850 Ireland, likely had sister named Ellen who married a Hurley by 1876) Would love to hear from any other list member having any resources documenting these families - especially Nathaniel Smith who is a serious brickwall. All I have been able to find is that he was a teacher in Montgomery Co. Pa in the 1810s and may have died by 1830. Thank you for any help or direction you are able to offer, Susan McIntyre

I've "rescued" an old photograph of Ella SPAYD which was taken at the Entrekin Studio in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1880's or 1890's with Ella likely in her late teens or early 20's at the time it was taken. Based on limited research I believe that this may be a photograph of Ella M. SPAYD, daughter of Philip & Mary A. SPAYD who were living in Jefferson, PA during the 1880 census. Those census records provide the following information regarding the family: Philip SPAYD, age 52, born in PA, a Laborer, parents born in PA Mary A. SPAYD, wife, age 47, born in PA, Keeping House, parents born in PA Salome SPAYD, son, age 18, born in PA, a Servant Ella M. SPAYD, dau, age 11, born in PA I'm hoping to locate someone from Ella's family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of her family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley