I am trying to find the Penn. 1910 Miracode on ancestry, but it does not seem to be listed among their databases, although I know they sell the CD. Does anyone know to access that database on ancestry? Thanks. Paul

I just want to remind everyone that my LDS library had a full subrcription to Ancestry, and a couple other paid sites, so if you can't shell out the Ancestry fee, check your local LDS library. Besides, I find it so helpful to be able to bounce questions off them. Janet

Would SKS please check Philadelphia city directories for me for JOHN BLACK during the 1880-1900 time period. He is on the 1880 census with wife Jane. He is a wagon driver. On the 1900 census, she is widowed, so he must have passed away sometime during those 20 years. Thank you. Michele GO SEAHAWKS!!!

I just signed up for the 14 free trial yesterday. They even called me this morning to make sure I was finding what I wanted. I have to say that I'm really pleased with what I'm finding and think the $179/year for access to all their US material will work just fine for me. Today I had trouble logging onto ancestry at www.ancestry.com . In fact when I put in that address, it took me to the page to sign up for the 14 day trial period. I finally went into google.com and put in the same URL and went right to their home page. I did just now (5p.m. Seattle/GO SEAHAWKS time) try to look up some 1920 census images and it went to a page that said they were updating things and to try back later. So maybe that's what is happening to you. Michele

I noticed that ancestry's usual 14-day free trial offer is not on their web site anymore. Does anyone know, is it still on, and if so how would one sign up for it? Thanks. Paul

Craig, I forgot what year you were looking for ? I just got some info in my search that Pa didn't require them to get a license until the late 1880's One of the ones I was looking for was 1915 but couldn't find it . They are the ones I think went to Elkton. Cecil County Maryland. However I do have 2 for the Philly area. Keep a look out for I) Charles Jaep and Minnie / Wilhelmina Hoppackh/ Hoppack abt. 1881. 2) James Stevenson and Theadocia McClaren/McClarion about 1895 Would appriciate the extra eyes. Thanks. Ann On 2/1/06, CraigTen@aol.com <CraigTen@aol.com> wrote: > > Ann: > Thanks for your response. When I wrote that query yesterday I had just > returned from the FHC in Broomall where I had searched the film of the > Philadelphia > Marriage Register, again with no luck. I had previously searched in the > Philly > archives and in City Hall. Of course they could have been married > elsewhere > but they both lived in the city and her children by a previous marriage > were > buried here at Woodmont Cemetery. I doubt if they eloped to Elkton! Ergo, > I have > run out of ideas. Thanks anyway! > Craig > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, > [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel > University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown > Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical Society > of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional > Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City > Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries and > Archives > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > -- Ann Brown " Cookie"

Another suggestion....Media courthouse with marriage at Yearkes in nearby Delaware County. Mary McCanney Finley -------------- Original message -------------- From: KateP215@aol.com > In a message dated 2/1/2006 1:27:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, > CraigTen@aol.com writes: > Thanks for your response. When I wrote that query yesterday I had just > returned from the FHC in Broomall where I had searched the film of the > Philadelphia > Marriage Register, again with no luck. I had previously searched in the > Philly > archives and in City Hall. Of course they could have been married elsewhere > but they both lived in the city and her children by a previous marriage were > buried here at Woodmont Cemetery. I doubt if they eloped to Elkton! Ergo, I > have > run out of ideas. Thanks anyway! > Craig > Craig, > > May I make another suggestion: maybe they eloped to Wilmington, DE or > Mannasses VA?? > > Kate > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: Upload your GEDCOM to WorldConnect > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

In a message dated 2/1/2006 1:27:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, CraigTen@aol.com writes: Thanks for your response. When I wrote that query yesterday I had just returned from the FHC in Broomall where I had searched the film of the Philadelphia Marriage Register, again with no luck. I had previously searched in the Philly archives and in City Hall. Of course they could have been married elsewhere but they both lived in the city and her children by a previous marriage were buried here at Woodmont Cemetery. I doubt if they eloped to Elkton! Ergo, I have run out of ideas. Thanks anyway! Craig Craig, May I make another suggestion: maybe they eloped to Wilmington, DE or Mannasses VA?? Kate

http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=42418178&pid=r&mode=ALL&n=0&query=Ye llow+Fever+Book Since I submitted to ROOTSWEB the List of the Dead from this book, I also found time to transcribe and submit the entire book. It, and its index, are online at the URL above. It does contain numerous references to people in Philadelphia who were active in managing the turmoil. Marj Winter -----Original Message----- From: EdLMyers@aol.com [mailto:EdLMyers@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:20 PM To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re:Yellow Fever Pat this is the link to a list of names of those who died of Yellow Fever in 1793. Wishing you luck Elayne _http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/history/local/yfever17 93 /_ (http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/history/local/yfever17 93/dead.txt) ______________________________

Hi Lorraine, can you send the links? I wasn't successful. Can't imagine why. Lorraine LorraineinFL@aol.com wrote: Hi Lorraine, I did a Google and found tons of info on that place! Lorraine ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

Hi Lorraine, I did a Google and found tons of info on that place! Lorraine

I got mine from the State Archives in Harrisburg. Mine was for the year 1727 and did not contain information other than the Oath and showed his signature which told me he was literate and could write. The later oaths may have more information on them such as place of birth or origin. Janet In a message dated 2/1/2006 6:28:47 PM Central Standard Time, FLMapLady@aol.com writes: Would someone be able to tell me how I can get a copy of the application for the Oath of Allegiance? And can you tell me what information might be found in the application? I found where my great-grandfather had his Declaration of Intent on 10-18-1875 and took the oath on 10-3-1878. Thanks, ginger

In a message dated 02 01 2006 5:53:15 PM, PAPHILAD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << An ancestor worked for the post office in 1860. Does anyone know if there are records from that time? Where should I look? >> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo The national archives has most federal government records. There are many pre 1860 records in storage for gov't in general. Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] botwinick@aol.com botwinick@alumni.rowan.edu MEBotwinick@alumni.temple.edu http://hometown.aol.com/botwinick/myhomepage/index.html

Part of Pine St. was in the 7th Ward on that date. Pine St. extends East-West across the city. Philadelphia Research

Pat this is the link to a list of names of those who died of Yellow Fever in 1793. Wishing you luck Elayne _http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/history/local/yfever1793 /_ (http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/history/local/yfever1793/dead.txt)

Many thanks. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: <PhilaResearch@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] 7th Ward, Philadelphia, PA > Part of Pine St. was in the 7th Ward on that date. Pine St. extends > East-West across the city. > > Philadelphia Research > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Ann: Thanks for your response. When I wrote that query yesterday I had just returned from the FHC in Broomall where I had searched the film of the Philadelphia Marriage Register, again with no luck. I had previously searched in the Philly archives and in City Hall. Of course they could have been married elsewhere but they both lived in the city and her children by a previous marriage were buried here at Woodmont Cemetery. I doubt if they eloped to Elkton! Ergo, I have run out of ideas. Thanks anyway! Craig

My parents lived at Emerald and Allegheny before I was born. They moved to near "F" and Ontario just before I was born. I was born in St. Mary's Hospital in Fishtown, 12 July 1939. The hospital was a few blocks from my grandmother's house.

In a message dated 01 31 2006 10:49:48 PM, PAPHILAD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I am trying to determine the marriage date of my great grandparents, ... Their first child was born in September 1879 so they were probably married between 1877-1879. One source I have, which is of dubious value, says they were married on 7 May but didn't say what year. Any clues would be appreciated. >> oooooooooooooooooooooooooo Good Phila. civil Mariage indexes start around 1860. They are available at city archives, LDS and HSP. A newspaper might list the marriage. Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] botwinick@aol.com botwinick@alumni.rowan.edu MEBotwinick@alumni.temple.edu http://hometown.aol.com/botwinick/myhomepage/index.html

Craig, I too am trying to find marriage dates in that time peroid and have inquired at the Phil Marriage Records. They want $25 to search and if they find it you get it and if not you don't but still pay because you are paying for the search. If you are in Philly you can go there and search the michrfilm free and make your copy or what I have started doing is digital photo's . The Latter Day Saints or Mormans have the LDS Library. the site is on line and you can search the library. Then go to your local library and order the film for $5 each or .50 for a fiche and wait a few weeks for them to come in and they look through it. That is cheeper. They say that the turn around time for Marriage licenses copies is 2-6 months. Here is some advice that I recieved when I posted the same question last week As for marriages, try checking church records near where they lived. These records can be also be found at the Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania and the Historical Society of Pennsylvania. Also, post the inquiry on philly-roots and paphilad newslists. Good luck Ann On 1/31/06, CraigTen@aol.com <CraigTen@aol.com> wrote: > > I am trying to determine the marriage date of my great grandparents, > Christopher Petzelt and Virginia Adelaide Dryden Mansfield. She was listed > in the 1877 > Philadelphia City Directory as Widow Mansfield living at 820 N. 8th St. He > was listed as living there also. Their first child was born in September > 1879 so > they were probably married between 1877-1879. One source I have, which is > of > dubious value, says they were married on 7 May but didn't say what year. > Any > clues would be appreciated. > Craig TenBroeck > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, > [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel > University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown > Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical Society > of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional > Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City > Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries and > Archives > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > -- Ann Brown " Cookie"