If you know he died in a VA hospital have you tried contacting your local VA for help? While trying to reconstruct some military records that were destroyed in the archived records fire I discovered that if a veteran has been treated in a VA hospital they likely will have copies of his service records. I was lucky in that the records that could not be offered by the archives could be supplied by the VA. Good Luck, Susan McIntyre > >In a message dated 2/11/2006 10:05:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, >eile@comcast.net writes: > >I am finally after getting a relative's 1957 death cert, and it gives the social. > >My plan had been to use the social to locate him in the military's >records, since he died in a VA hospital. > >The problem: Putting his social into the social sec. death index >brings up a different man's name. > >Now I am stumped. > >Any ideas? I do not have his service number. > >Paul > > > > >

Most of my families remained in the Philadelphia area. There is one line that I have not been able to make any progress on. I found them on the 1910 census living in Philadelphia but have not been able to find them on the 1900 census. I suspect that they may have been living in one of the outlining counties of Philadelphia (Montgomery, Berks, Bucks). If I take 10 years off of the 1910 census dates I would be looking for: In 1900 they would be: George W. Scheetz, Husband 42 (most likely from Germany) Mary E. Scheetz, Wife 44 (most likely from PA) Ethel Scheetz, Daughter 10 Lawrence Scheetz, Son 2 Anyone connect or relate to this family? Thanks, Jim Cullen http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jimcullen/

Dear Anne How kind of you - I have never been so embarrassed in my life to find that I had sent my letter to the list rather than the PFL - I do hope all the readers will please ignore my stupidity, delete my message and accept my apologies. In future I will be more aware of what I am doing. Eileen

I will call the SSA and see if they can help me locate the social, since the 1957 death cert is apparently wrong, and the SSDI does not have him listed. Thanks for all the help. Paul

Eileen, I noticed your letter on the philadelphia List on roodsweb so I forwarded it for you to the Philadelphia Free library. Hope you don't mind. their email is erefNEWS@excen.library.phila.gov for future reference. Hope it helps. Ann Brown On 2/11/06, EileenCrook@aol.com <EileenCrook@aol.com> wrote: > > Dear writer > > I sent the following letter as directed by yourself but to-date have > not yet > received any reply. Sorry to bother you as I know that no doubt > many people > want to take up your time and I do appreciate that but being here in > the UK > I was just wondering if my letter and cash did in fact arrive - not sure > how > long to wait before contacting you re my enquiry. > > > Thanking you for your patience in this matter > > Eileen Crook > > > > 25 Sylvan Court > Woolton > Liverpool L25 7AJ > England > > Email: EileenCrook@aol.com > > 5 December 2005 > > Free Library of Philadelphia > Newspapers and Microfilm Centre > 1901 Vine Street > Philadelphia PA 19103 > USA > Dear Sirs > Having been in contact with your office, I am told that you can forward > any > obituary copies that you find for me by email. Naturally this would > certainly > be of help to me because I am not able to send you a stamped addressed > envelope. > Therefore may I please ask for copies of the following, who died in > Philadelphia > Margaret Lacy – died or buried 6 January 1930 aged about 71 > Ellen Lacy – died or buried 2 July 1932 aged about 65 > Many thanks for your time. Please find enclosed 1 dollar cash. > Yours faithfully > Eileen Crook > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > TO CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN, WRITE TO: > PAPHILAD-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > -- Ann Brown " Cookie"

In a message dated 2/11/2006 10:50:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, cookiebrown11@gmail.com writes: sorry, I didn;'t know that. Just trying to help. Good luck No need to be sorry for trying to help! :) Joan

Nothing comes up when you put in his name ? You may have to contact the SS administration.and inquire there. Do you know the funeral director ? sometimes they have that info too. Just throwing out suggestions that I have used. What exactly do you want to find. Obviously you have a problem with the SS # not being correct so that needs to be addressed and that's why I suggested the SS Adm. Maybe they could direct you. Ann On 2/11/06, eile <eile@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Ann Brown <cookiebrown11@gmail.com> > Date: 11 Feabhra 2006 7:38:28 pm PST > To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAPHL] death > > do you have access to ancestery ? > > If not give me the full name and I'll look for you > > I have access. What would you look for? > > Paul > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, > [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel > University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown > Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical Society > of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional > Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City > Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries and > Archives > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > -- Ann Brown " Cookie"

sorry, I didn;'t know that. Just trying to help. Good luck On 2/11/06, JYoung6180@aol.com <JYoung6180@aol.com> wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/11/2006 10:38:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, > cookiebrown11@gmail.com writes: > > My uncle died in 76 and his is in there. > > > > By 1976 the records were digitized and you can expect to find most (but > not > all) deaths listed there. Deaths prior to 1962 or thereabouts are > often not > found in the SSDI even if the person's death was reported to SSA. > > Joan > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > TO CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN, WRITE TO: > PAPHILAD-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > -- Ann Brown " Cookie"

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In a message dated 2/11/2006 10:38:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, cookiebrown11@gmail.com writes: My uncle died in 76 and his is in there. By 1976 the records were digitized and you can expect to find most (but not all) deaths listed there. Deaths prior to 1962 or thereabouts are often not found in the SSDI even if the person's death was reported to SSA. Joan

do you have access to ancestery ? If not give me the full name and I'll look for you On 2/11/06, Ann Brown <cookiebrown11@gmail.com> wrote: > > My uncle died in 76 and his is in there. > > > > On 2/11/06, JYoung6180@aol.com <JYoung6180@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/11/2006 10:05:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > eile@comcast.net writes: > > > > I am finally after getting a relative's 1957 death cert, and it gives > > the social. > > > > My plan had been to use the social to locate him in the military's > > records, since he died in a VA hospital. > > > > The problem: Putting his social into the social sec. death index > > brings up a different man's name. > > > > Now I am stumped. > > > > Any ideas? I do not have his service number. > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > Paul- > > > > In all probability someone who died in 1957 won't be included in the > > SSDI > > listings because the SS records were not digitized at that time. Some > > were added > > later on but most don't appear in the SSDI. > > > > My guess is that there is a typo in the SS number on the Death Cert. or > > the > > person supplying the death info had the wrong number, if you are finding > > someone else listed in the SSDI with that number. > > > > You can try contacting SSA to see if they have the SS5 info for the > > person > > who died in 1957 even if you do not have the correct SS number. > > > > Joan > > > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > > Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: > > http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ > > > > ============================== > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn > > more: > > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > > > > -- > Ann Brown " Cookie" -- Ann Brown " Cookie"

My uncle died in 76 and his is in there. On 2/11/06, JYoung6180@aol.com <JYoung6180@aol.com> wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/11/2006 10:05:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, > eile@comcast.net writes: > > I am finally after getting a relative's 1957 death cert, and it gives > the social. > > My plan had been to use the social to locate him in the military's > records, since he died in a VA hospital. > > The problem: Putting his social into the social sec. death index > brings up a different man's name. > > Now I am stumped. > > Any ideas? I do not have his service number. > > Paul > > > > Paul- > > In all probability someone who died in 1957 won't be included in the SSDI > listings because the SS records were not digitized at that time. Some were > added > later on but most don't appear in the SSDI. > > My guess is that there is a typo in the SS number on the Death Cert. or > the > person supplying the death info had the wrong number, if you are finding > someone else listed in the SSDI with that number. > > You can try contacting SSA to see if they have the SS5 info for the person > who died in 1957 even if you do not have the correct SS number. > > Joan > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > -- Ann Brown " Cookie"

In a message dated 2/11/2006 10:05:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, eile@comcast.net writes: I am finally after getting a relative's 1957 death cert, and it gives the social. My plan had been to use the social to locate him in the military's records, since he died in a VA hospital. The problem: Putting his social into the social sec. death index brings up a different man's name. Now I am stumped. Any ideas? I do not have his service number. Paul Paul- In all probability someone who died in 1957 won't be included in the SSDI listings because the SS records were not digitized at that time. Some were added later on but most don't appear in the SSDI. My guess is that there is a typo in the SS number on the Death Cert. or the person supplying the death info had the wrong number, if you are finding someone else listed in the SSDI with that number. You can try contacting SSA to see if they have the SS5 info for the person who died in 1957 even if you do not have the correct SS number. Joan

Have you looked for him by name in the ssdi ? On 2/11/06, LorraineinFL@aol.com <LorraineinFL@aol.com> wrote: > > huh? > > Lorraine > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, > [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel > University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown > Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical Society > of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional > Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City > Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries and > Archives > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > -- Ann Brown " Cookie"

huh? Lorraine

i know thanks for responding On 2/9/06, PhilaResearch@aol.com <PhilaResearch@aol.com> wrote: > > Chester is in Delaware County, PA. > > Philadelphia Research > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > TO CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN, WRITE TO: > PAPHILAD-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

> Ann Brown <cookiebrown11@gmail.com> Date: 11 Feabhra 2006 7:38:28 pm PST To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAPHL] death > do you have access to ancestery ? > If not give me the full name and I'll look for you I have access. What would you look for? Paul

> from: Ann Brown <cookiebrown11@gmail.com> > Have you looked for him by name in the ssdi ? I have, and have not found him. I have his death date. Paul

I am finally after getting a relative's 1957 death cert, and it gives the social. My plan had been to use the social to locate him in the military's records, since he died in a VA hospital. The problem: Putting his social into the social sec. death index brings up a different man's name. Now I am stumped. Any ideas? I do not have his service number. Paul

PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Susan, Using http://stephenmorse.org/census/index.html Streets in Atlantic City, NJ Enumeration District 1-14 (Atlantic County) NARA Roll: T626_1308 FHL Roll: 2341043 Arctic Ave Atlantic Ave Atlantic Ocean Bacharach Blvd Baltic Ave Boardwalk Chalfonte Mediterranean Ave North Carolina Ave Pacific Ave South Carolina Ave Streets in Atlantic City, NJ Enumeration District 1-15 (Atlantic County) NARA Roll: T626_1308 FHL Roll: 2341043 Arctic Ave Atlantic Ave Atlantic Ocean Bacharach Blvd Baltic Ave Boardwalk Central Mediterranean Ave Memorial New Gretna Ocean Ave Pacific Ave South Carolina Ave Tennessee Ave Teresa > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:38:59 -0500 > From: Susan <sgurman@comcast.net> > To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: ED > > Would SKS in Philly tell me the ED for 180 S. South > Carolina Ave. Atlantic City in 1930. I've had no > response from my email to the NJ site. > > Thanks so much > Susan Gurman > Lansdale, Pa. > There are only two lasting gifts that we can give to our children. One is Roots, the other Wings. http://www.flottgenealogy.com