In a message dated 3/26/2006 4:44:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, j_mcconville2002@yahoo.com writes: Where would I find death records after 1722 and before the date provided on film for German immigrants? From church and, possibly, cemetery records. Sndtenterprises Genealogical and Historical Research

You are right about Sebastian and Nicolaus. I have their records from a descendant of theirs but she didn't go far enough for me to trace my line. I have the Lancaster County U.S. Census of 1860 showing a Joseph Gehringer, age 30, from Baden, wife named Charlotte, age 34, Darmstatch, with a Florina Shaule, age 12, whom I have no idea who it is. Joseph is supposedly my great grandfather but I can't connect either going back or forward. He could be the son of William & Elizabeth Snyder. I don't want to burden you with all my research problems. Thanks once more.

This seems to have been the time when patronyms were converting to surnames, however. David Thomas's will is filed under "T." His sons' wills (ie Samson Davis) are filed under "D." I have traced from Samson Davis onwards but would like to learn more about David (ap) Thomas. Where did he come from in Wales? Are his parents known? Did he come to PA with siblings? When did he come? Any help? Thanks! Natalie ndburrows@verizon.net P.S. The family of David Thomas's son John Davis has been well researched and also shows the change from (ap) Thomas to Davis. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sndtenterprises@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Davis and Thomas families of Philadelphia County, 18th century > Thomas was not a surname. It was a patronym. The children had the name > Davis > because it means the children of David. This was the Welsh custom. > > Sndtenterprises > Genealogical and Historical Research > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: Upload your GEDCOM to WorldConnect > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Thank you for the information below, but....unfortunately my ABRAHAM KUHN/KOON/KOEN died then. He was already in his 50's when he came immigrated to Philadelphia. I cannot find anything out about this family of 6 after they arrived. Where would I find death records after 1722 and before the date provided on film for German immigrants? I appreciate your time and energy. Warm wishes, Judy PhilaResearch@aol.com wrote: _http://www.phila.gov/phils/Docs/Inventor/genealgy.htm_ (http://www.phila.gov/phils/Docs/Inventor/genealgy.htm) ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== To leave the list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to mailto:PAPHILAD-L-request@RootsWeb.com for list mode or mailto:PAPHILAD-D-request@RootsWeb.com for digest mode ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates.

Thomas was not a surname. It was a patronym. The children had the name Davis because it means the children of David. This was the Welsh custom. Sndtenterprises Genealogical and Historical Research

I probably wasn't clear, Wanda. Sorry. David Thomas died in Phila. Co. in 1718. His will names Thomas, Richard David, Samson David, John David, Catherine, Anne (Evans), Gwen and Mary. All the sons except Thomas used the Davis surname thereafter. Thomas died without children so the Thomas surname died out entirely, at least with this particular family. Thanks again for any help from anyone. Natalie ndburrows@verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wanda Bradley" <wandadonie@comcast.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Davis and Thomas families of Philadelphia County, 18th century > Could not find it on 1790 census on Ancestry. It was Thomas Davis and not > some other last name since you said they changed it. I looked for Davis, > Thomas. > Wanda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "NATALIE BURROWS" <ndburrows@verizon.net> > To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:41 PM > Subject: [PAPHL] Davis and Thomas families of Philadelphia County, 18th > century > > >> I have recently found evidence to link my ancestor, Thomas Davis d. >> 1752 in Cumru, Berks County, to his father named Samson/Sampson >> David/Davis of Plymouth, Phila. County. Samson was the son >> of David Thomas who died in Philadelphia County in 1717/1718. His >> children changed the surname to Davis. >> Does anyone have information about this elusive family? >> Thanks so much. >> Natalie >> nd.burrows@verizon.net >> >> >> ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >> Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, >> [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel >> University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown >> Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical >> Society of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional >> Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia >> City Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of >> Wills Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania >> Libraries and Archives >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, [ARI]Annenberg > Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel University Library, > FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown Historical Society, > GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical Society of PA, LC)Library > Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional Branch-Philadelphia, > PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City Hall, > (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries > and Archives > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Could not find it on 1790 census on Ancestry. It was Thomas Davis and not some other last name since you said they changed it. I looked for Davis, Thomas. Wanda ----- Original Message ----- From: "NATALIE BURROWS" <ndburrows@verizon.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:41 PM Subject: [PAPHL] Davis and Thomas families of Philadelphia County, 18th century > I have recently found evidence to link my ancestor, Thomas Davis d. > 1752 in Cumru, Berks County, to his father named Samson/Sampson > David/Davis of Plymouth, Phila. County. Samson was the son of > David Thomas who died in Philadelphia County in 1717/1718. His children > changed the surname to Davis. > Does anyone have information about this elusive family? > Thanks so much. > Natalie > nd.burrows@verizon.net > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, > [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel > University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown > Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical > Society of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional > Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City > Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries > and Archives > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Robert J. AIREY died on 5 June 1930 and was buried in Mount Moriah Cemetery. I have been unable to find when his wife Anna Dinklocker AIREY died (sometime during/after 1934), but presume she was buried next to Robert. Is anyone available to see if in fact Anna AIREY is buried there, and when she died? Any help greatly appreciated. Sharon

I will appriciate if someone would do a lookup for me 1930 census Phila John an Delia FAHEY b. Ireland Thank you PhillyLorri Searching GEIGER-SMITH-ALLEN-GEARIN-GUERIN- GRIGOLEIT-UHL-MANTZ-CARROLL-SCHOCH

In a message dated 3/26/2006 9:26:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Geolou50@cs.com writes: Thank you for the prompt reply. Yes, I would appreciate any info on Baltus and Jacob. They are found in Berks, Lancaster and Phila counties in the 1800s. It sometimes is spelt as Gehringer. Thank you again. You are very kind to share your information with so many people. --- Baltus GERRINGER arrived in Philadelphia on board the Mortonhouse on 24 August 1728. Jacob GERRINGER arrived in Philadelphia on board the Ship Shirley on 5 September 1751. Baltus signed his name by mark X and Jacob's name (and those of some other passengers on the Shirley) were written in by the clerk in the absence of the passengers (the book doesn't say where those passengers were at the time). So I don't know whether Jacob could write his own name or not and I don't have his signature. So there is quite a gap between the arrivals of these two GERRINGERs and I have no way of knowing whether one is related to the other or not. Is the 1800s the earliest you find your GERRINGERs in any records? I see some GERINGER/GERRINGERs in Berks County as early as the 1761. There is a Sabastian and a George GERINGER/GERRINGER having children baptized--Sebastian at Zion Lutheran in Greenwich Twp. and George at St. Paul's Reformed and Lutheran Church Amity Twp. There is also a Nicolaus and wife having children baptzed in the 1760s and 70s at Zion Lutheran. Nicolaus is most likely the Nicolaus GERRINGER I see on the ship lists arriving on the Halifax in 1754. In Lancaster County there are a David and a Henry GERINGER/GOERINGER having children baptized in 1760, 1763, and 1769 at First Reformed Church Lancaster. Joan

Thank you for the prompt reply. Yes, I would appreciate any info on Baltus and Jacob. They are found in Berks, Lancaster and Phila counties in the 1800s. It sometimes is spelt as Gehringer. Thank you again. You are very kind to share your information with so many people.

Liz --- That's great information! Thanks so much. Natalie ndburrows@verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <LHTravellerRoots@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Davis and Thomas families of Philadelphia County, 18th century > Here is a url to a transcript of Mary widow of Sampson Davis selling land > after he died. > > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/land/davies-bell.txt > > Liz Harrison > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: Search the SSDI [Social Security Death Index] > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Here is a url to a transcript of Mary widow of Sampson Davis selling land after he died. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/land/davies-bell.txt Liz Harrison

In a message dated 3/25/2006 4:50:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, fkd2001@hotmail.com writes: Try the web page for the national archives (nara.gov I think) I was able to get a copy of my grandfather's World War II enlistment papers from there and he is still alive. Hope that helps Ed At one time I think that was the URL but it is now: http://www.archives.gov . Joan

I have recently found evidence to link my ancestor, Thomas Davis d. 1752 in Cumru, Berks County, to his father named Samson/Sampson David/Davis of Plymouth, Phila. County. Samson was the son of David Thomas who died in Philadelphia County in 1717/1718. His children changed the surname to Davis. Does anyone have information about this elusive family? Thanks so much. Natalie nd.burrows@verizon.net

Try the web page for the national archives (nara.gov I think) I was able to get a copy of my grandfather's World War II enlistment papers from there and he is still alive. Hope that helps Ed >From: MMForst@aol.com >Reply-To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PAPHL] Re:Military records >Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:29:28 EST > >Hello list members, I'm looking for an address to send an inquiry about my >grand uncle who served in the army. I recently located him at Fort >Apache,AZ >on the 1910 census. He is possibly retired because under occupation it >says >"none". He is apparently living there because his wife is a "matron" at >the >military hospital. I would like to know his rank and if retired when and >possibly his date of death. I hope his military record would give me some >information. Anyone know where I should write? Thanks for any and all >help. > Peg > > >==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >Search RootsWeb and Ancestry: >http://www.rootsweb.com > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Hello list members, I'm looking for an address to send an inquiry about my grand uncle who served in the army. I recently located him at Fort Apache,AZ on the 1910 census. He is possibly retired because under occupation it says "none". He is apparently living there because his wife is a "matron" at the military hospital. I would like to know his rank and if retired when and possibly his date of death. I hope his military record would give me some information. Anyone know where I should write? Thanks for any and all help. Peg

In a message dated 3/25/2006 11:54:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, Geolou50@cs.com writes: Would you be kind enough to look up Goehringer, Gohringer and the various spellings of the name for me. Thank you. Capitolb@juno.com. Neither of those spellings appear in the book but there are several listings for GERRINGER which I suspect is the same name. There are: Baltus, Bastian/Bestian, Jacob, Nicklas/Nicolas and Thomas. If any of those given names are of interest to you let me know and I'll find the complete ship and date info for them. Baltus was the earliest to arrive (1728) and is shown on one list as Gering and another as Gerringer, years later Thomas, and later Jacob and finally Bastian and Nicklas were the last by this name in the book. Joan

Would you be kind enough to look up Goehringer, Gohringer and the various spellings of the name for me. Thank you. Capitolb@juno.com.

In a message dated 3/24/2006 8:51:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, Pami0608@aol.com writes: Hi Joan, That's him! that spelling has been used before. what information do you have from the book? Thank you so much! Pam Daniel MACHLEIT arrived in Philadelphia on 23 Oct. 1752 on the Ship Rawley. He signed his own name to the ship list. Joan