Hi. I just wanted to add that I went to Swarthmore once to do research using their Quaker records. In person, the people there were very helpful. Suzanne Moller sjmoller1@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: NATALIE BURROWS <ndburrows@verizon.net> > To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 3/30/2006 12:49:14 PM > Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Quaker records > > Elizabeth -- there is one man at Swarthmore who will do cursory look-ups for > a modest fee. Not very thorough, however. Natalie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elizabeth Cunningham" <drybones@netreach.net> > To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:11 PM > Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Quaker records > > > > People ought to be aware that many, if not most, Monthly Meetings deposit > > archival records at Swarthmore College. They will not do look ups for > > you, however. > > > > Elizabeth C > > > > Sndtenterprises@aol.com wrote: > > > >>Yes, they are at HSP, however, Abington and Plymouth Meeting still exist. > >> > >> > >>==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > >>Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing > >>lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To > >>subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >> > >>============================== > >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > > FREE: Search the SSDI [Social Security Death Index] > > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Visit City and County of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~philadelphia/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Thanks Helene. I was wondering what some of the terms I've seen on death certificates meant, or what the possible options were after trying to read through the poor handwriting. Jim Cullen Cullen Kelly Loomis Sheridan Teesdale Harvey Scheetz Tyrrell Kent Ferris Miller Evans http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jimcullen/ -----Original Message----- From: Helene D'Auria [mailto:hdauria@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:06 PM To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PAPHL] Cathedral Cemetery / New Cathedral Cemetery / causes of death As for causes of death, someone else on this list sent me this some time ago and it has been invaluable! http://www.genealogy-quest.com/glossaries/diseases1.html Helene

I don't see "LHC" on the list of "Helpful Abbreviations". What is it? Philadelphia Research

I have submitted some obituaries from the July 11, 1922 edition of the Inquirer to PA USGENWEB Philadelphia County Miller, Phillippina (nee Zanzinger) Mitchell, Nellie (spouse Harry) Molter, Katharine Gellert (widow of Frank) Moore, Winfield T. (wife Margaret) O'Neill, Sarah C. (nee Hamilton, husband James) Ostertag, Frederick J (wife Lucy Haller) Page, Adelaide (widow of Richard V) Parks, George W (wife Emma H., nee Fritsch; mother Jennie Fleming) Hope this helps someone. Laureen

I'm confused. In the death index, I've a Jeremiah Finnigan who died in 1911 and is buried at Cathedral Cemetery. Another Finnigan, also died in 1911 and residing at the same address, is buried at New Cathedral. In looking up contact information and maps of the cemeteries, I'm not sure if these are the same, or if one is buried in the old Cathedral and one in the new. How would I know the difference please? Also, is their a link to causes of death in the 1900s and what they mean? I am not sure what some of these are, and others are hard to read plus unfamiliar, so I'd appreciate knowing of a resource.

As for causes of death, someone else on this list sent me this some time ago and it has been invaluable! http://www.genealogy-quest.com/glossaries/diseases1.html Helene -----Original Message----- From: Laurie [mailto:laurie@ampwares.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:07 PM To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAPHL] Cathedral Cemetery / New Cathedral Cemetery / causes of death I'm confused. In the death index, I've a Jeremiah Finnigan who died in 1911 and is buried at Cathedral Cemetery. Another Finnigan, also died in 1911 and residing at the same address, is buried at New Cathedral. In looking up contact information and maps of the cemeteries, I'm not sure if these are the same, or if one is buried in the old Cathedral and one in the new. How would I know the difference please? Also, is their a link to causes of death in the 1900s and what they mean? I am not sure what some of these are, and others are hard to read plus unfamiliar, so I'd appreciate knowing of a resource. ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== Search RootsWeb and Ancestry: http://www.rootsweb.com ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/300 - Release Date: 4/3/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/300 - Release Date: 4/3/2006

If they died in Phila..the LHC has an index of deaths.. On 4/4/06, PhilaResearch@aol.com <PhilaResearch@aol.com> wrote: > > There is no index that someone would have. > There are over 100 cemeteries in Philadelphia. Searching cemeteries is a > fruitless task. > For deaths before 1 July 1906, contact the Philadelphia City Archives. > For deaths after that date, contact the Pennsylvania Dept. of Vital > Records > in Newcastle, PA. > There are Web pages. > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, > [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel > University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown > Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical Society > of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional > Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City > Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills > Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries and > Archives > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > -- Joe Brady researching..Brady,Walsh,Ryan,McDevitt, Pierse, O'Connor, Iaquinto, D'Alfonso, Ricci, Siravo, Carlino, and more

There is no index that someone would have. There are over 100 cemeteries in Philadelphia. Searching cemeteries is a fruitless task. For deaths before 1 July 1906, contact the Philadelphia City Archives. For deaths after that date, contact the Pennsylvania Dept. of Vital Records in Newcastle, PA. There are Web pages.

Natalie, In your Davis research have you run across a William Davis born abt 1775 who had a daughter Charity? This is one of my titanium walls. My ancestor, Charity Davis, is listed in the Bucks County Intelligencer for her marriage in 1821 and all it says is that her father was William, deceased. She might have had a brother named Gidion but this is all speculation because I found a reference to a Gidion who also had a father named William also deceased. If you find any clues at all please let me know. I would really appreciate it. Also, do not reply to this message as I will no longer be with AOL. Instead my e-mail address is _Kitty4quilts@yahoo.com_ (mailto:Kitty4quilts@yahoo.com) Thanks so much. Diane in CO In a message dated 3/25/2006 6:42:25 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, ndburrows@verizon.net writes: I have recently found evidence to link my ancestor, Thomas Davis d. 1752 in Cumru, Berks County, to his father named Samson/Sampson David/Davis of Plymouth, Phila. County. Samson was the son of David Thomas who died in Philadelphia County in 1717/1718. His children changed the surname to Davis. Does anyone have information about this elusive family? Thanks so much.

I am researching the family of Stephen O'DONNELL (b. abt. 1825 in Ireland) and his wife Julia (surname unknown, b. abt 1832 Ireland). I have found the couple on directories and censuses from 1860 forward. I am looking for records of Stephen's and Julia's deaths after 1900, if anyone has an index or cemetery list that might help Laureen

I have a list of 200 MILLERS that had marriage notices published in the Public Ledger Newspaper 1852-1856, if you had a MILLER that married during that time frame, I'll be glad to look for them. Bill Pallatt

Laurie et al: I can't answer the question for the 1900s, but take this opportunity to remind searchers that during the Great Depression, late 1920s and early 1930s, it was quite common for families to be split up. My husband, now 87, remembers classmates who abruptly disappeared when father lost his job and they had to move from the neighborhood. Many a child was sent to live temporarily with an aunt, uncle or grandparent, even a family friend or neighbor, simply because his parents had no appropriate home for him. It was a very difficult time for families; many were never reunited. Marj in NC -----Original Message----- From: Laurie [mailto:laurie@ampwares.com] Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:26 PM To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Was it unusual in early 1900s to find families split up? I'm having a tough time tracing one of my ancestors. The 1900 census provides May 1871 as the birthdate of Mary FINNIGAN Sekel; the Philadelphia birth index does list a Mary born 28 June 1871 with parents Jurmiah and Emily FINNIGAN; the Philadelphia death index provides a death date of 11 Dec 1910 for Mary SECKEL. These all fit (I checked the birth indexes from 1868 - 1871 for Mary to rule out other entries). In locating the cemetery she is buried in, she is buried with Finnigans, though I've not yet established that relationship. My question: I have located Mary in the 1900 and 1910 census, and I know for sure it's her. I have not been able to locate her in 1880, though there is a Mary fitting her description living as daughter to Owen FINNEGAN. Owen and his wife were born in Ireland, and Mary after 1880 provides her birth place as PA with her parents as IRE. Is it possible that this is the same Mary? How would I check this when there is no other birth entry for Mary? 9 seems awfully young for a child to no longer be with her family. I know that Mary's grandson lived with his grandmother and that the family did scatter; I wonder if it could have happened here? Thanks, Laurie

In a message dated 4/2/2006 9:21:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ndburrows@verizon.net writes: It was my understanding that HSP has the early stuff and GSP has 20th century and on. Please let me know if this is so. Thanks. Natalie ndburrows@verizon.net That is not correct. Sndtenterprises Genealogical and Historical Research

It was my understanding that HSP has the early stuff and GSP has 20th century and on. Please let me know if this is so. Thanks. Natalie ndburrows@verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Botwinick@aol.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:10 PM Subject: [PAPHL] Re: GSP different from HSP? > > In a message dated 4/2/06 19:02:08, PAPHILAD-D-request@rootsweb.com > writes: > > << What could I expect to find at the GSP that is different from the > HSP? > ... Do they have the same restrictions as HSP as far as what you can take > into > the research area with you? Are lockers available? >> > > 00000000000000 > > GSP has more city directories in paper out on the open shelf. > There are other differences. > Less restrictions at GSP. > No lockers at GSP. > GSP has some items that HSP doesnt. > > > Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] botwinick@aol.com > botwinick@alumni.rowan.edu MEBotwinick@alumni.temple.edu > http://hometown.aol.com/botwinick/myhomepage/index.html > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Search RootsWeb and Ancestry: > http://www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Does anyone know where the church records are for St Matthew's Reformed Church (German) that in 1912 was located on North 5th Street below Erie Avenue. The pastor at that time was U. O. Silvius. THANKS :)

In a message dated 4/2/06 19:02:08, PAPHILAD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << What could I expect to find at the GSP that is different from the HSP? ... Do they have the same restrictions as HSP as far as what you can take into the research area with you? Are lockers available? >> 00000000000000 GSP has more city directories in paper out on the open shelf. There are other differences. Less restrictions at GSP. No lockers at GSP. GSP has some items that HSP doesnt. Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] botwinick@aol.com botwinick@alumni.rowan.edu MEBotwinick@alumni.temple.edu http://hometown.aol.com/botwinick/myhomepage/index.html

I'm having a tough time tracing one of my ancestors. The 1900 census provides May 1871 as the birthdate of Mary FINNIGAN Sekel; the Philadelphia birth index does list a Mary born 28 June 1871 with parents Jurmiah and Emily FINNIGAN; the Philadelphia death index provides a death date of 11 Dec 1910 for Mary SECKEL. These all fit (I checked the birth indexes from 1868 - 1871 for Mary to rule out other entries). In locating the cemetery she is buried in, she is buried with Finnigans, though I've not yet established that relationship. My question: I have located Mary in the 1900 and 1910 census, and I know for sure it's her. I have not been able to locate her in 1880, though there is a Mary fitting her description living as daughter to Owen FINNEGAN. Owen and his wife were born in Ireland, and Mary after 1880 provides her birth place as PA with her parents as IRE. Is it possible that this is the same Mary? How would I check this when there is no other birth entry for Mary? 9 seems awfully young for a child to no longer be with her family. I know that Mary's grandson lived with his grandmother and that the family did scatter; I wonder if it could have happened here? Thanks, Laurie

From my maps it looks like Spring Garden District's 7th Ward ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Regan" <susanregan@comcast.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:01 PM Subject: [PAPHL] wards > Hi, > > Would anyone know which ward 24th and Wallace would be in 1850? > > Thanks, > Susan > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > FREE: Upload your GEDCOM to WorldConnect > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

I will be in Philadelphia later this week. I have visited the Historical Society of PA on numerous occasions, but was never there on a day when the Genealogical Society of PA was open. What could I expect to find at the GSP that is different from the HSP? Do they have the same restrictions as HSP as far as what you can take into the research area with you? Are lockers available? Thanks. Marilyn

I would like to help you search for Michael in the 1870 and 1910 Census. Need a bit more info. - age, birth place, who may be with. piketre@comcast.net -------------- Original message -------------- From: l faris <phillyirish2003@yahoo.com> > Hello, > > I have tried and tried to find my great great grandfather in the 1870 and 1910 > census. The name is Michael Hannigan. I have found him in the 1860 census > listed as Harrigan. I also found him in 1880 and 1900 but not in 1910. > > Perhaps someone can help by telling me the ED for his address in 1870 - it was > 500 S 27th. > > By 1910 he was living at 2534 Ellsworth St. That ED? > > I appreciate any assistance. > > Lorraine > Maryland > > > > > --------------------------------- > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low > rates. > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > TO CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN, WRITE TO: > PAPHILAD-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >