Birth records from that date are at the Philadelphia City Archives (there is a Web page). Births were supposed to be recorded with the city from 1860 to 1906. There are no birth"certificates" as we know them, just a notation. However, unless the child was born with a doctor's assistance, not a common situation, it is doubtful that there is any record. Sndtenterprises Genealogical and Historical Research

Helene, I'm thinking it might be Mechanic! If you give me yur gg's name and the doctor's name we might be able to figure it out Regina >From: "Helene D'Auria" <hdauria@sbcglobal.net> >Reply-To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PAPHL] Looking for a Street >Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 08:43:52 -0700 > >I need some help. According to his birth record, my great-grandfather was >born on Jan 16, 1892 in Philadelphia at 2271 Michan St. That's how it reads >on the typed copy of the certificate I got from the city archives. I can't >find Michan St. on modern maps of Philadelphia so I was wondering if anyone >had any clues for me where this street might have been. The address of the >doctor who delivered him is given as 5560 Main St. > >Thanks for any ideas anyone may have! > >Helene >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.3/331 - Release Date: 5/3/2006 > > >==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing >lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, >start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Helene, What was the doctors name? >From: "Helene D'Auria" <hdauria@sbcglobal.net> >Reply-To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PAPHL] Looking for a Street >Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 08:43:52 -0700 > >I need some help. According to his birth record, my great-grandfather was >born on Jan 16, 1892 in Philadelphia at 2271 Michan St. That's how it reads >on the typed copy of the certificate I got from the city archives. I can't >find Michan St. on modern maps of Philadelphia so I was wondering if anyone >had any clues for me where this street might have been. The address of the >doctor who delivered him is given as 5560 Main St. > >Thanks for any ideas anyone may have! > >Helene >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.3/331 - Release Date: 5/3/2006 > > >==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing >lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, >start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi Helene, Did they tell you the ward. What was your great grandfathers name? Regina >From: "Helene D'Auria" <hdauria@sbcglobal.net> >Reply-To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PAPHL] Looking for a Street >Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 08:43:52 -0700 > >I need some help. According to his birth record, my great-grandfather was >born on Jan 16, 1892 in Philadelphia at 2271 Michan St. That's how it reads >on the typed copy of the certificate I got from the city archives. I can't >find Michan St. on modern maps of Philadelphia so I was wondering if anyone >had any clues for me where this street might have been. The address of the >doctor who delivered him is given as 5560 Main St. > >Thanks for any ideas anyone may have! > >Helene >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.3/331 - Release Date: 5/3/2006 > > >==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing >lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, >start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

I spent some time at HSP today, and I looked up the Upper Germantown Burying Ground records (the register is part of the holdings there), but I noted two things: (1) there was a significant change about 1857 that seems to give ownership to someone else, and (2) the records drop off almost completely about then. The record I was looking for is for William B. CROUT who was buried there; what I did find was that he paid for the right to be buried there. Also, when the change took place, there was a notation that the cemetery would be called Axe's. Any idea how I can get the actual record? Is the cemetery still in operation today? Many thanks!

Hello fellow listers! I'm new to the list and living in Kentucky. Is there anyone who is willing to check for and obtain copies of birth certs for me??? I'm looking for the following: Edgar Alfred Gillinder, born Philadelphia, abt. 1864 Blanche Gillinder (possibly Ella Blanche), born Philadelphia, abt. 1866 Parents of both Edgar and Blanche were William Thynn Gillinder & Elizabeth Emery Gillinder. Any help will be greatly appreciated, and I will gladly reimburse for any costs! Thanks much! Claudia Pell-Salvatore

You are all such great helps! Okay, here's the full info: Edward A. Moore January 16, 1892 Born at 2271 Michan St. Dr. W. M. Alrich 5560 Main St. Father: Alex Moore Occupation: Milk Dealer Mother: Sarah By 1900 the father had died and mom and son were living in the 22nd ward on Duval St., per the census. Now that you mention it, I have always gotten an actual handwritten record from the archives - this is the first time I've gotten anything typed like this. I guess I could write for the original, it just seems weird that they didn't send it to me in the first place. In any case, I appreciate the detective work! Helene -----Original Message----- From: Regina Nau [mailto:reginanau@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 4:17 PM To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PAPHL] Looking for a Street Helene, I'm thinking it might be Mechanic! If you give me yur gg's name and the doctor's name we might be able to figure it out Regina -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.3/331 - Release Date: 5/3/2006

In a message dated 5/4/2006 1:15:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, phillylorri@earthlink.net writes: Helene its possible that is Mckean st in s. Phila. There can't be a 5500 McKean St. Philadelphia Research

In a message dated 5/4/2006 1:03:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, drybones@netreach.net writes: I suspect Germantown or Manayunk. There is a Main Street in both places. Elizabeth C That is correct. Germantown Ave. used to be called Main St. Sndtenterprises Genealogical and Historical Research

Helene its possible that is Mckean st in s. Phila. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helene D'Auria" <hdauria@sbcglobal.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 9:43 AM Subject: [PAPHL] Looking for a Street > I need some help. According to his birth record, my great-grandfather was > born on Jan 16, 1892 in Philadelphia at 2271 Michan St. That's how it reads > on the typed copy of the certificate I got from the city archives. I can't > find Michan St. on modern maps of Philadelphia so I was wondering if anyone > had any clues for me where this street might have been. The address of the > doctor who delivered him is given as 5560 Main St. > > Thanks for any ideas anyone may have! > > Helene > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.3/331 - Release Date: 5/3/2006 > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

I suspect Germantown or Manayunk. There is a Main Street in both places. Elizabeth C Helene D'Auria wrote: >I need some help. According to his birth record, my great-grandfather was >born on Jan 16, 1892 in Philadelphia at 2271 Michan St. That's how it reads >on the typed copy of the certificate I got from the city archives. I can't >find Michan St. on modern maps of Philadelphia so I was wondering if anyone >had any clues for me where this street might have been. The address of the >doctor who delivered him is given as 5560 Main St. > >Thanks for any ideas anyone may have! > >Helene >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.3/331 - Release Date: 5/3/2006 > > >==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > >

The clerk at the Archives probably misread the writing on the original record and typed what he thought it said. Try to get a copy of the original record. Sndtenterprises Genealogical and Historical Research

Can you get a photocopy of the original certificate from the Archives? If so, perhaps someone could help you decipher it. There's no record of a Michan Street in Moak's book on street name changes. Larry B. ----Original Message Follows---- I need some help. According to his birth record, my great-grandfather was born on Jan 16, 1892 in Philadelphia at 2271 Michan St. That's how it reads on the typed copy of the certificate I got from the city archives. I can't find Michan St. on modern maps of Philadelphia so I was wondering if anyone had any clues for me where this street might have been. The address of the doctor who delivered him is given as 5560 Main St. Thanks for any ideas anyone may have! Helene

I need some help. According to his birth record, my great-grandfather was born on Jan 16, 1892 in Philadelphia at 2271 Michan St. That's how it reads on the typed copy of the certificate I got from the city archives. I can't find Michan St. on modern maps of Philadelphia so I was wondering if anyone had any clues for me where this street might have been. The address of the doctor who delivered him is given as 5560 Main St. Thanks for any ideas anyone may have! Helene -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.3/331 - Release Date: 5/3/2006

I am trying to find a marriage date for Thomas Ferguson and Dorothy Katherine Balcom. Their son (my grandfather), Wallace Ferguson, was born in Philadelphia on March 15, 1927. I am not positive where te wedding took place, but want to start in Philadelphia. I don't know which city department keeps records for this period, or how to request. If anyone is able to do a lookup, I am willing to pay reasonable fees (reproduction, etc). Jason

Don't know if this will help or not, but I had been looking for my great grandfather for years. He had 2 sons with my great grandmother, then dropped off the face of the earth. I finally found him in the 1900 census, serving in the Spanish American War. He apparently left the Philippines and settled in San Francisco. There he "hooked up" with a lady, who he claimed he married a week before the great earthquake and fire. Of course there were no records available, because the had been burned in the great fire. He also claimed that he had never been married before. I highly doubt that he ever married the new wife. I sent away for his pension record and confirmed that it was him. My great grandmother remarried and never saw him again. A kind person in San Francisco took a picture of his tombstone for me, so that sort of closed the book on him. I've now learned that some strange things happened during that time period. Also, if a person is missing, find out if there was a war during their time of disappearance. You might just get lucky, following that route! Lorraine

Hello Michael, Keep in mind that someone other than Margery composed her obit. Most likely it was a FARRELL. Your grandmother could have been omitted due to oversight or spite. Mary McCanney Finley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael J. O'Brien" <m.j.obrien@worldnet.att.net> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:28 PM Subject: [PAPHL] Look Up Please! Margery FcFadden > > My paternal Great-grandmother was Margery McFadden (aka Larkin and > Farrell). > She died December 6, 1940. Her first husband was my great-grandfather > John > Larkin. When John died Margery married Daniel Farrell in 1901. I have > recently received Margery's obit from the Philadelphia Library. It is > difficult to read, but Margery's residence was listed as 489? Devereaux > Street in Philadelphia. The wake was held at her home and she was then > buried in Holy Cross Cem.along with her deceased husband Daniel. The obit > lists Margery as the mother of Sister M. Xaveria SSJ, who was my great > aunt. > Margery was also suppose to be the mother of my grandmother Regina Larkin > O'Brien. Regina was not listed in the obit and I'm not sure why. > Regina's > death certificate lists Margery as her mother. I quess I'm surprised she > was not listed since Regina did not die untill 1958. > > Margery's parents were Emanuel Mc Fadden and Mary McNulty from Plymouth > Meeting. > > John Larkin and Margery McFadden Lived at 2816 N. 6th Street. John died > March 20, 1891 at the age of 71. > > What I'm trying to learn who was in the household during census taking > around the early 1900s through her death at the Devereaux address. > Margery > was reportedly in the real estate business as was her first husband John > Larkin. So if someone could please see if she is listed in eary census > documents I would greatly appreciate the help!! > > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing > lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To > subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

My brick wall is beginning to come down, but it's slow going on this one. I have an ancestor whose marriage I've now confirmed, who is listed in the directories in the time frame of 1887 - 1894. He seems to just disappear after 1894, his wife is listed as married in the 1900 census but widowed in 1910. I have not found him in Philly, but I find someone with the same name, age, birth place in another state married. One possibility that hadn't occurred to me before is divorce or annulment. Would there be a record if this was the case? If so, where would I look? Also, for a husband who seems to simply disappear in this time frame, where would you look and what other possibilities should be entertained?

Ok I found one more 1920 > Pennsylvania > Philadelphia > 20-WD Philadelphia 11th Street 1905/169/221 Farrell, Samuel Head O F M W 55 M PA PA PA , Margaret Wife F W 55 M PA IRE IRE 1905/169/222 Obrun(?), Joseph P Head R M W 32 M PA PA PA , Regina Wife F W 32 M PA PA PA , Joseph P Jr. Son M W 5 S PA PA PA , John Son M W 3 S PA PA PA McFadden, Joseph Border M W 53 S PA IRE IRE , Catherine Border F W 58 S PA IRE IRE Thank You - Krystal Wilson - Vital Tree http://clik.to/vitaltree<http://clik.to/vitaltree> FREE VITAL RECORDS!

This is what I found 1870 > Pennsylvania > Montgomery > Whitemarsh Twp 258/268 McFadden, Mannis 45 M Ire works in iron ore quarry , Mary 43 F Ire , Patrick 19 M PA , James 17 M PA , Cassey 13 F PA , Gracy 11 F PA , Margery 9 F PA , Rosey 8 F PA , Joseph 5 M PA , Ellen 4/12 F PA , Mannis 4/12 M PA 1880 > Pennsylvania > Montgomery > Whitemarsh Mannus McFadden 55 Ire Miner of Iron Mary 55 Ire James 23 PA Miner of Iron Joseph 15 PA Mannus 10 PA 1900 > Pennsylvania > Philadelphia > 20-WD Philadelphia 1905/27/33 Larkin, Margery Head W F Oct 1860 W 2 2 PA Ire Ire , Regina Dau W F Nov 1885 S PA Ire PA , Edith Dau W F Sep 1889 S PA Ire PA McFadden, Catherine Sis W F 1858 PA Ire Ire 1910 > Pennsylvania > Philadelphia > 20-WD Philadelphia 1905 Farrell, Daniel Head M W 49 M2 9 PA PA Ire , Margrette Wife F W 49 M2 9 4 3 PA Ire Ire Larkin, Regina R Dau-in-law F W 24 S PA Ire PA McFadden, Joseph Bro-in-law M W 44 S PA Ire Ire , Cathrine Sis-in-law F W 54 S PA Ire Ire This is all I could find. I hope it helps some. Thank You - Krystal Wilson - Vital Tree http://clik.to/vitaltree<http://clik.to/vitaltree> FREE VITAL RECORDS!