In a message dated 5/21/2006 6:23:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Den49co@aol.com writes: The 1880 census has Simon J. BROWN (BRAUN) with his wife Christiana AND my great grandmother, Christiana! The other children match also. I have previously looked for "BROWN", as suggested by my Aunt, but only Jacob. Also, neither the 1870 or the 1900 census have a Simon Brown or Braun. I took a shot and looked in the 1880 through LDS website adn THERE THEY WERE! :You may find him on another census with Jacob as the surname. I found on a Census my John Henry Bretz listed as John Henry. I couldn't find him anywhere and was looking at other Bretz's that I knew were relatives and stumbled on him and the rest of his family. I also found my Thomas Maconachy listed as Conachy. Now I keep a wide open mind when looking for all relatives. Lynn

You did it!! The 1880 census has Simon J. BROWN (BRAUN) with his wife Christiana AND my great grandmother, Christiana! The other children match also. I have previously looked for "BROWN", as suggested by my Aunt, but only Jacob. Also, neither the 1870 or the 1900 census have a Simon Brown or Braun. I took a shot and looked in the 1880 through LDS website adn THERE THEY WERE! THANK YOU SO MUCH. DENNIS

Thank you. Dennis

He isn't on any brewers' list so it probably was a bakery. The city directory may have been in error or he did make a small amount of beer. Philadelphia Research

Dennis, Is it possible that his middle name was Jacob?...check the 1890 PCD entry below. 1890- Gopsill's Philadelphia, Pennsylvania General & Business Directory -BRAUN, Simon J., baker, 2015 S 7th Regards, Bob Lightcap ---------------------Den49co@aol.com wrote--------------------- >My gr, gr grandparents were supposed to have a bakery about 1890 on N. 7th >Street. >He was Jacob Braun. His wife was Christianna (Bower) Braun. >I have never found thew bakery. There was a Jacob Braun listed as a "lager". > >ANY HELP?? > >Dennis Cox >

Jim, 1859-McElroy's Philadelphia, Pennsylvania City & Business Directory -HAMMELL John, cordw, 422 Christian Regards, Bob Lightcap -----------------marjw@cox.net wrote-------------------- >Jim: McElroy's Philadelphia Directory for 1839 lists the following Hammells > >John, cordwainer, at Vine below 12th >Lewis, tailor, at 5 Southampton Court >Thomas, drayman, at Marlborough near Prince St. > >The following Gaws are listed: > >Chambers, 119 New St. >Gilbert, tailor, 5 Magnolia >H. L., accountant, 208 S. 2nd >J., dry goods, 234 S. 2nd >James, weaver, Germantown Road near Master >John, stove manufacturer, 235 and 252 Cedar >Robert, ornamenter, 52 George (South) >Robert M., engraver, 37 Perry >William, stove manufacturer, 393 and house at 395 S. 2nd >William P., accountant, 34 Callowhill > >Marj in NC > >-----Original Message----- >From: jimncathy [mailto:jimncathy@triconet.org] >Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:29 PM >To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Information Please > >Hi folks, >My post of yesterday shows that I had a "Green Valley Moment", (Brain shut >down) as I failed to give you all the names that is of interest to me. >I am seeking confirmation that either 'Gaw' or 'Hammell' was living at No. >422 Christian St. in July 1858. > >Hope this makes it more clear and less trouble for my fellow researchers out >there. > >Jim, A voice from the Arizona desert > >______________________________ > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 5/19/2006 > > > >==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== >Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

I know that Lager is a brewery, but the family legend has them running a bakery. I know that verbal hand-downs can become "altered", so I am keeping an open mind. I also know that both used yeast. I think some such facilities may have done a little bit of both.? Dennis

Lager is beer. Are you sure it wasn't a brewery?

My gr, gr grandparents were supposed to have a bakery about 1890 on N. 7th Street. He was Jacob Braun. His wife was Christianna (Bower) Braun. I have never found thew bakery. There was a Jacob Braun listed as a "lager". ANY HELP?? Dennis Cox

Laurie, Have you looked in all possible census records for your John Fay? Do you know if he had brothers and sisters? If you could find them you might find information about the parents. Mary kay

My g-grandmother Annie FAY Sekel died at Holy (this first word is not clear so may be wrong) Clinic Hospital in 1917. Can anyone tell me if there are records to this hospital and if so where I might find them please? I've 3 certificates of death, one with the undertaker listed as K. ?. White and two with the undertaker listed as J.J. White Bros. Can anyone tell me if there are records for this undertaker and where I might find them please? Last question: When my Mary FINNEGAN Sekel died, her son was an adult living with her, but it was another person who buried her. I've not yet established the relationship, but it was a FINNEGAN who owned the plot that she's buried in and signed her certificate of death. What I'm wondering is why she'd be buried by and have her death certificate signed by someone other than her son, someone living at a different address? Many thanks in advance!

I just received the certificate of death for John FAY, and for parent names, there is a line drawn in the space where the name would go and the birthplace for each parent is simply Ire. The death index had less information than this, but I have looked it up; same with the cemetery record. The name Fay is pretty common, so I've looked at immigration records on Ancestry, but was hoping to find parent names so I could limit the search. In my searching to date, I've not seen a will in the index, so I'm stuck here. Any thoughts on where to look to next to try to locate his parents? John FAY died 09 Feb 1913 in Philadelphia at the age of 48, wife Bridget CANTEEN(TUN) of Ireland signed his certificate of death.

Dennis any help will be appreciated....Joe On 5/18/06, Den49co@aol.com <Den49co@aol.com> wrote: > > Joe, > > I have come across a Philadelphia McDevitt family in my research of my > wife's > genealogy. They are of the same generation as yours. I have to dig up my > notes of several years ago. > I think that it might be an Ellen McDevitt and a James McDevitt. > I'll look as soonas I get the chance. > > Dennis Cox > (Wife's surnames - Hare, Walker, Levett, McGowan, and possibly McDevitt) > > > ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== > Search RootsWeb and Ancestry: > http://www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > -- Joe Brady researching..Brady,Walsh,Ryan,McDevitt, Pierse, O'Connor, Iaquinto, D'Alfonso, Ricci, Siravo, Carlino, and more

Jim: McElroy's Philadelphia Directory for 1839 lists the following Hammells John, cordwainer, at Vine below 12th Lewis, tailor, at 5 Southampton Court Thomas, drayman, at Marlborough near Prince St. The following Gaws are listed: Chambers, 119 New St. Gilbert, tailor, 5 Magnolia H. L., accountant, 208 S. 2nd J., dry goods, 234 S. 2nd James, weaver, Germantown Road near Master John, stove manufacturer, 235 and 252 Cedar Robert, ornamenter, 52 George (South) Robert M., engraver, 37 Perry William, stove manufacturer, 393 and house at 395 S. 2nd William P., accountant, 34 Callowhill Marj in NC -----Original Message----- From: jimncathy [mailto:jimncathy@triconet.org] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:29 PM To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Information Please Hi folks, My post of yesterday shows that I had a "Green Valley Moment", (Brain shut down) as I failed to give you all the names that is of interest to me. I am seeking confirmation that either 'Gaw' or 'Hammell' was living at No. 422 Christian St. in July 1858. Hope this makes it more clear and less trouble for my fellow researchers out there. Jim, A voice from the Arizona desert ______________________________ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 5/19/2006

So is the 1861 at http://www.philageohistory.org/citydir/ I found it more complete to do look at the image of the page rather than doing a search in the provided boxes. Jim Cullen Cullen Kelly Loomis Sheridan Teesdale Harvey Scheetz Tyrrell Kent Ferris Miller Evans http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jimcullen/ -----Original Message----- From: Larry B. [mailto:phillyhm@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 2:03 PM To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAPHL] RE: Philadelphia City Directories Remember also that the 1890 City Directory is available on-line. http://olddirectorysearch.com/Philadelphia__Pennsylvania_1890/index.html Larry B. ----Original Message Follows---- Lately there've been quite a few requests for lookups in directories. I have found them tremendously helpful and have learned there are several ways to obtain this information: (1) Family History Centers have films of these (what I have been using for the most part), and the drawbacks are that they are pricey at just shy of $6 per film and some are very hard to read, but the advantages are that anyone near a FHC can rent these for a month's use. If you live close enough to travel to the Valley Forge FHC, they have a permanent collection of Philly records that includes many of the directories and is free to use. (2) I've not yet used the Free Library of Philadelphia's directory collection, but I've been pleased overall with the library to date. They offer what appears to be a great way to obtaion directory lookups. See: http://libwww.library.phila.gov/faq/faqsubcat.cfm?FAQCategory=19 This lookup service is offered via e-mail or postal mail, is limited to one name per request for ten years counting any 10 years. Copies are 50 cents with a $1.00 minimum. (3) The Philadelphia City Archives has directories. See: http://www.phila.gov/phils/Docs/Inventor/genealgy.htm#city . What I don't know is if they will do lookups or what it might cost. (4) The Historical Society of Pennsylvania has directories. This is a wonderful place to visit if able to do so. If not, there is a research by mail option. Details are on their site. See: http://www.hsp.org/default.aspx?id=126 and http://www.hsp.org/default.aspx?id=187 (5) The Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania has a very nice collection of the actual books; they are not allowed to be copied due to their age and fragility, but they are accessible (and they are so much nicer to read than films!). They also offer a research by mail option for a fee. For details see: http://www.genpa.org/GSPInquiryProcs2.html (6) When searching for information on the Germantown Historical Society (something someone on the list recommended to me for one of my lines), I was pleasantly suprised to learn of the directory lookup service they offer, and they will make copies of the directory pages for a fee. See: http://www.germantownhistory.org/library.html I hope this is of help to those who are not available to the travel to those places with directories as holdings. These are wonderful resources that combined with census reports and cemetery visits have provided me with an excellent start to my family research. Happy hunting! Laurie ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical Society of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries and Archives ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Oops! Thanks for catching my oversight Larry. Laurie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry B." <phillyhm@hotmail.com> To: <PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 2:03 PM Subject: [PAPHL] RE: Philadelphia City Directories : Remember also that the 1890 City Directory is available on-line. : : http://olddirectorysearch.com/Philadelphia__Pennsylvania_1890/index.html : : Larry B. : : : ----Original Message Follows---- : : Lately there've been quite a few requests for lookups in directories. I : have found them tremendously helpful and have learned there are several ways : to obtain this information: : : (1) Family History Centers have films of these (what I have been using for : the most part), and the drawbacks are that they are pricey at just shy of $6 : per film and some are very hard to read, but the advantages are that anyone : near a FHC can rent these for a month's use. If you live close enough to : travel to the Valley Forge FHC, they have a permanent collection of Philly : records that includes many of the directories and is free to use. : : (2) I've not yet used the Free Library of Philadelphia's directory : collection, but I've been pleased overall with the library to date. They : offer what appears to be a great way to obtaion directory lookups. See: : http://libwww.library.phila.gov/faq/faqsubcat.cfm?FAQCategory=19 : This lookup service is offered via e-mail or postal mail, is limited to one : name per request for ten years counting any 10 years. Copies are 50 cents : with a $1.00 minimum. : : (3) The Philadelphia City Archives has directories. See: : http://www.phila.gov/phils/Docs/Inventor/genealgy.htm#city . : What I don't know is if they will do lookups or what it might cost. : : (4) The Historical Society of Pennsylvania has directories. This is a : wonderful place to visit if able to do so. If not, there is a research by : mail option. Details are on their site. See: : http://www.hsp.org/default.aspx?id=126 and : http://www.hsp.org/default.aspx?id=187 : : (5) The Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania has a very nice collection of : the actual books; they are not allowed to be copied due to their age and : fragility, but they are accessible (and they are so much nicer to read than : films!). They also offer a research by mail option for a fee. For details : see: : http://www.genpa.org/GSPInquiryProcs2.html : : (6) When searching for information on the Germantown Historical Society : (something someone on the list recommended to me for one of my lines), I was : pleasantly suprised to learn of the directory lookup service they offer, and : they will make copies of the directory pages for a fee. See: : http://www.germantownhistory.org/library.html : : I hope this is of help to those who are not available to the travel to those : places with directories as holdings. These are wonderful resources that : combined with census reports and cemetery visits have provided me with an : excellent start to my family research. : : Happy hunting! : Laurie : : : : ==== PAPHILAD Mailing List ==== : Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society, : [ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel University Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown Historical Society, GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical Society of PA, LC)Library Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives Center, (RWA)Register of Wills Archives,(TU)Temple University, (UP)University of Pennsylvania Libraries and Archives : : ============================== : Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the : areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. : Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx : : : : : -- : No virus found in this incoming message. : Checked by AVG Free Edition. : Version: 7.0.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/343 - Release Date: 5/18/2006 : :

Lately there've been quite a few requests for lookups in directories. I have found them tremendously helpful and have learned there are several ways to obtain this information: (1) Family History Centers have films of these (what I have been using for the most part), and the drawbacks are that they are pricey at just shy of $6 per film and some are very hard to read, but the advantages are that anyone near a FHC can rent these for a month's use. If you live close enough to travel to the Valley Forge FHC, they have a permanent collection of Philly records that includes many of the directories and is free to use. (2) I've not yet used the Free Library of Philadelphia's directory collection, but I've been pleased overall with the library to date. They offer what appears to be a great way to obtaion directory lookups. See: http://libwww.library.phila.gov/faq/faqsubcat.cfm?FAQCategory=19 This lookup service is offered via e-mail or postal mail, is limited to one name per request for ten years counting any 10 years. Copies are 50 cents with a $1.00 minimum. (3) The Philadelphia City Archives has directories. See: http://www.phila.gov/phils/Docs/Inventor/genealgy.htm#city . What I don't know is if they will do lookups or what it might cost. (4) The Historical Society of Pennsylvania has directories. This is a wonderful place to visit if able to do so. If not, there is a research by mail option. Details are on their site. See: http://www.hsp.org/default.aspx?id=126 and http://www.hsp.org/default.aspx?id=187 (5) The Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania has a very nice collection of the actual books; they are not allowed to be copied due to their age and fragility, but they are accessible (and they are so much nicer to read than films!). They also offer a research by mail option for a fee. For details see: http://www.genpa.org/GSPInquiryProcs2.html (6) When searching for information on the Germantown Historical Society (something someone on the list recommended to me for one of my lines), I was pleasantly suprised to learn of the directory lookup service they offer, and they will make copies of the directory pages for a fee. See: http://www.germantownhistory.org/library.html I hope this is of help to those who are not available to the travel to those places with directories as holdings. These are wonderful resources that combined with census reports and cemetery visits have provided me with an excellent start to my family research. Happy hunting! Laurie

Remember also that the 1890 City Directory is available on-line. http://olddirectorysearch.com/Philadelphia__Pennsylvania_1890/index.html Larry B. ----Original Message Follows---- Lately there've been quite a few requests for lookups in directories. I have found them tremendously helpful and have learned there are several ways to obtain this information: (1) Family History Centers have films of these (what I have been using for the most part), and the drawbacks are that they are pricey at just shy of $6 per film and some are very hard to read, but the advantages are that anyone near a FHC can rent these for a month's use. If you live close enough to travel to the Valley Forge FHC, they have a permanent collection of Philly records that includes many of the directories and is free to use. (2) I've not yet used the Free Library of Philadelphia's directory collection, but I've been pleased overall with the library to date. They offer what appears to be a great way to obtaion directory lookups. See: http://libwww.library.phila.gov/faq/faqsubcat.cfm?FAQCategory=19 This lookup service is offered via e-mail or postal mail, is limited to one name per request for ten years counting any 10 years. Copies are 50 cents with a $1.00 minimum. (3) The Philadelphia City Archives has directories. See: http://www.phila.gov/phils/Docs/Inventor/genealgy.htm#city . What I don't know is if they will do lookups or what it might cost. (4) The Historical Society of Pennsylvania has directories. This is a wonderful place to visit if able to do so. If not, there is a research by mail option. Details are on their site. See: http://www.hsp.org/default.aspx?id=126 and http://www.hsp.org/default.aspx?id=187 (5) The Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania has a very nice collection of the actual books; they are not allowed to be copied due to their age and fragility, but they are accessible (and they are so much nicer to read than films!). They also offer a research by mail option for a fee. For details see: http://www.genpa.org/GSPInquiryProcs2.html (6) When searching for information on the Germantown Historical Society (something someone on the list recommended to me for one of my lines), I was pleasantly suprised to learn of the directory lookup service they offer, and they will make copies of the directory pages for a fee. See: http://www.germantownhistory.org/library.html I hope this is of help to those who are not available to the travel to those places with directories as holdings. These are wonderful resources that combined with census reports and cemetery visits have provided me with an excellent start to my family research. Happy hunting! Laurie

Hi folks, My post of yesterday shows that I had a "Green Valley Moment", (Brain shut down) as I failed to give you all the names that is of interest to me. I am seeking confirmation that either 'Gaw' or 'Hammell' was living at No. 422 Christian St. in July 1858. Hope this makes it more clear and less trouble for my fellow researchers out there. Jim, A voice from the Arizona desert

I found a 1920 census in Parkside Burrough, Delaware County: Surname: Worrilow Head: W Harold, 30 years old, born PA, both parents born PA Wife: Pearl, 25 years old, born MD Mother: VC or UC, 60 years old, born Pennsylvania, father born NJ, mother born Canada Sister: SW, 29 years old, born PA, both parents born PA son: W Harold Jr 2/12 yr old I saved the image. Would you like me to send you a digital copy by e-mail? B Casaleno Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 17:30:35 -0400 From: "Marjorie B. Winter" <marjw@cox.net> To: PAPHILAD-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <003201c679f9$23be9cf0$0200a8c0@MARJ> Subject: WORRILOW - KELLMEYER/KELLMAYER Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Searching for information on Sara Wynyall Worrilow, b. 1891, m. Rev. Kellmeyer, d. 1965. Any information on Sara or the Reverend will be much appreciated. Marj in NC __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp