In a message dated 5/29/02 11:30:54 PM, [email protected] writes: <<I am looking for any info on the parents and siblings of my great-great-great-grandmother, EMILY FLORENCE GRAY. She was born abt. 1848 in Pennsylvania. She died May 24, 1919 in Benton Harbor, Berrien County, Michigan. Bet. 1865 and 1868 she married JESSE T. RICE (son of Zachariah Rice and Nancy Landis), in PA, possibly in Landisburg, Perry County, PA (where Jesse was born and raised). According to the 1870 census, they lived in Poboyne Twp., PA; 1880 they lived in Landisburg, PA, and then in 1900 census they were in Berrien Co., Michigan. Every census showed Emily's parents were also born in PA. According to Emily's death record, her father's name was David Gray. I know the Gray part is right, but I'm not so sure about the first name being David. I looked at every David Gray in 1850 census (when Emily would have been abt. 2 yrs. old) and didn't find any that had a daughter named Emily (or Florence, as she was in 1870 census, but all over censuses said "Emily F"). If anyone can help or is connected to this line, please e-mail me at [email protected] Thank you! :-) Kelly Kahlau>> Hello Cousin Kelly, This is the first time I have heard of Zachariah and Nancy (Landis) Rice having children. Howewver, since I also am a descendant of Zachariah Rice and Abigail Hartmann, I'll give you what I have. Cousin John Family Group Sheet Name: Heinrich Rice [870], [41, Heinrich], [40], [76], [397, Henry], [721, Henry], [757, Henry], [759], [829, 61. Henry RICE, white, male, about 74 yrs.], [718, Henry stopped in Perry Co., PA], [866], [901], [924], [941, Henry], [1000], GGGG Uncle, Ze, M ————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 1778 Chester Springs, Pikeland Twp., Chester Co., PA [40], [397], [829, 1779], [866, abt 1779], [901], [941, son's birth date 1 Apr 1812] Death: 21 Sep 1853 Spring Twp., Perry Co., PA [40], [397], [829, 21 Sep 1853], [866], [901], [941, son's death date 2 Jul 1883] Burial: Landisburg, PA [397] Occupation: Farmer [829] Anst File#: L2N9-HM [40] Alias/AKA: Henry [41], [76] Occupation: Team Driver Between Perry Co., PA And Baltimore, MD [941] Father: Zachariah E Reiss, Z, M (1731-1811) Mother: Abigail (Maria Appolonia) Hartmann, J4, F (1742-1790) Marriage: bef 1805 Landisbury, Pennsylvania ————————————————————————————————————— Spouse: Margaret Thomas [870], [41], [40], [76], [397], [721], [757], [759], [866], [924], F ————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 1785 Landisburg, PA [40], [866] Death: 3 Feb 1852 Landisburg, Perry Co., PA [866] Anst File#: L2N9-JS [40] ————————————————————————————————————— Children ————————————————————————————————————— 1 M: Benjamin Rice [40], [41], [397], [829], 1C4R, Ze1, M Birth: 15 Oct 1805 Landisburg, PA [40], [397] Death: 13 May 1878 [397] Age: 72 Burial: Landisburg, Perry Co., PA [397] Anst File#: 20NL-PM5 [40] Spouse: Susan Snyder, F ————————————————————————————————————— 2 F: Polly Rice [40], [41], [397], [829, Mary], 1C4R, Ze2, F Birth: bef 1807 Landisburg, PA [40] Birth: abt 1807 <, Landisburg, Pennsylvania> Anst File#: 20NL-PNC [40] Spouse: John Cozier, M ————————————————————————————————————— 3 F: Nancy Rice [40], [41], [397], [829], 1C4R, Ze3, F Birth: 1809 Juniata Co., PA [829] Death: 2 Apr 1854 Spring Twp., Perry Co., PA [40], [397], [829, 2 Apr 1854] Death Memo: affection of the heart Burial: Landisburg, Perry Co., PA [397] Anst File#: 20NL-PRO [40] Anst File#: 20NL-PR0 Spouse: Abraham March, M Children: Hannah, Ze31, F Samuel, Ze32, M Henry, Ze33, M ————————————————————————————————————— 4 M: Henry Rice [40], [41], [312], [397], [759], [761], [760], [829, c/o Henry. Also, returned death certificate for his sister Nancy MARCH.], [924], [941], 1C4R, Ze4, M Birth: 1 Apr 1812 Landisburg, Perry Co., PA [40], [397], [761], [949, abt 1830] Death: 21 Jul 1883 New Bloomfield, Centre Twp., Perry Co., PA [40, 21 Jul 1882], [397, 21 Jul 1883] Age: 71 Burial: Bloomfield, Perry Co., PA [397] Anst File#: 20NL-PPK [40] Occupation: Merchant, Livery Stable Operator, County Treasurer [941] Religion: Luthern [941] Spouse: Fannie Weary, F Marriage: 25 Jun 1840 [760] Children: Margarette, Ze41, F (1841-) Elizabeth, Ze42, F (1842-1876) Mary, Ze43, F (1843-1868) Eleanora, Ze44, F (1844-1845) Frances (Fannie), Ze45, F (1845-) Spouse: Mary Ann Sweger, F Marriage: 5 Jul 1849 [760] Children: Henrietta M, Ze46, F (1850-1852) Henry, Ze47, M (1851-) Sarah Jane, Ze48, F (1853-1857) Lydia Anne (Annie), Ze49, F (1854-1917) Emma T, Ze4a, F (1856-1931) Clara, Ze4b, F (1858-) Hannah Martha, Ze4c, F (1860-) Rebecca F, Ze4d, F (1863-) Jackson, Ze4e, M (1865-1866) John, Ze4f, M (1868-1868) ————————————————————————————————————— 5 M: Zachariah Rice [40], [41], [397], [829, Zachiah], [934], 1C4R, Ze5, M Birth: bef 1814 [40] Death: 5 Jan 1880 Landisburg, Perry Co., PA [40, 5 Jan 1880], [397, 8 Jan 1880] Burial: Landisburg, Perry Co., PA [397] Anst File#: 20NL-PQR [40] Spouse: Nancy Landis, F Spouse: Miss Clark, F Spouse: Miss Sully, F ————————————————————————————————————— 6 M: William Heim Rice [39], [40], [41], [397], [788], [829], 1C4R, Ze6, M Birth: 1815 <, Landisburg, Pennsylvania> Birth: Sep 1815 Landisburg, PA Death: 16 Dec 1882 Landisburg, PA Burial: Landisburg, Perry Co., PA [397] Anst File#: 1290-7X3 [40] Spouse: Elizabeth (Betsy) Loy, GGG Aunt, M4c6, F Children: James Harvey, Ze61, M (1859-) ————————————————————————————————————— 7 F: Margaret (Peggy) Rice [40], [41], [397, Margaret (Peggy)], [829], 1C4R, Ze7, F Birth: bef 1817 [40] Birth: abt 1817 <, Landisburg, Pennsylvania> Anst File#: 20NL-PTD [40] Alias/AKA: Peg [41] Spouse: Frederick Flemming, M ————————————————————————————————————— 8 M: Samuel Rice [40], [41], [397, died single], [829], 1C4R, Ze8, M Birth: 24 May 1817 <, Landisburg, Pennsylvania> [40], [397] Anst File#: 20NL-PVL [40] ————————————————————————————————————— 9 F: Catharine Rice [40], [41], [397], [829], 1C4R, Ze9, F Birth: bef 1818 [40] Birth: abt 1818 <, Landisburg, Pennsylvania> Anst File#: 20NL-PS6 [40] Spouse: John Schwartz, M ————————————————————————————————————— 10 F: Hannah Rice [40], [41], [397], [829], 1C4R, Zea, F Birth: bef 1819 [40] Birth: abt 1819 <, Landisburg, Pennsylvania> Anst File#: 20NL-PWS [40] Spouse: Jacob Grove, M ————————————————————————————————————— 11 F: Susan Rice [40], [41], [397], [829], 1C4R, Zeb, F Birth: bef 1821 [40] Birth: abt 1821 <, Landisburg, Pennsylvania> Anst File#: 20NL-PX1 [40] Spouse: Mr Hinkle, M ————————————————————————————————————— 12 M: Jesse Rice [40], [41], [397, Jesse], [829], 1C4R, Zec, M Birth: Feb 1827 Landisburg, PA [40], [397] Birth: 1827 <, Landisburg, Pennsylvania> Anst File#: 20NL-PZ7 [40] Spouse: Mary Cochrane, F Notes for Heinrich Rice Research Notes! Henry RICE, [829] white, male, about 74 yrs. Father: Zachariah Rice. Mother: Abby. Occupation: Farmer. Born: 1779, Pikeland Twp., Chester Co. PA. Wife: Margaret (deceased). Living Issue: Benjamin, Mary, Nancy, Catharine, Henry, Zachiah, William, Margaret,Hannah, Samuel, Susan, Jesse. Died: 21 Sep 1853, died suddenly, Spring Twp. Perry County. Buried: Landisburg Burial Ground. Person returning certificate: Samuel Ickes. Centre Twp. Perry, PA. Date of certificate: 28 Sep 1853. Notes for Heinrich & Margaret (Family) Family Notes! Henry and Zachariah settled near Mahoning Ridge about eight miles S.E. of Conrad Rice's farm. Henry and Margaret Rice lived in Perry County and were buried in Landisburg, Pa. Research Notes for Nancy (Child 3) Research Notes! Nancy MARCH, [829] white, female, about 45 yrs. Father: Henry Rice. Mother: Margaret Rice. Occupation: housekeeper. Born: 1809, Juniata Co. Husband: Abraham March. Living Issue: Hannah Grom, Samuel & Henry. Died: 2 Apr 1854, affection of the heart, Spring Twp. Perry Co. Buried: Landisburg Burial ground. Person returning certificate: Henry Rice, brother of dec., New Bloomfield Perry Co. Date of certificate: 13 May 1854. Research Notes for Henry (Child 4) Research Note! [312] In a message dated 11/4/01 6:05:47 AM, [email protected] writes: <<At 10:47 AM 11/3/01, [email protected] wrote: >Nancy, Jan, Nikki - Hello Cousins, > >I've created a Rice - Murphy email group so that each of you will >receive this email message without going thru PAPerry. I will share >anything that I have that will help you with our Rice family. Hi John - that is a good idea and I thank you for the information you provided. Here is what I sent to somebody, apparently the wrong person, and I intended it to go to the list too but I have a new email program and I found I did not have it set up properly for 'Reply All" and it did not do what I intended. So I am now sending it to everyone on your cc list so we will all be on the same page. And apologies to anyone who has seen it before. I would only add that I am not really a RICE, and certainly not a MURPHY (I have none), researcher; I only have this on RICE because of my interest in LUPFER. 1 Henry Rice b: ca 1830 +Mary A. Sweger b: ca 1830 2 Emma T. Rice b: 1855 d: 1931 New Bloomfield, Perry Co, PA +Henry J. Lupfer b: 28 Jul 1843 Perry Co, PA d: 1915 New Bloomfield, Perry Co, PA 3 Benjamin B. Lupfer b: 1877 d: 1932 New Bloomfield, Perry Co, PA +Blanche B. ?? b: 1880 d: 1918 New Bloomfield, Perry Co, PA 3 Frank Soper Lupfer b: 01 Dec 1880 d: 26 May 1883 New Bloomfield, Perry Co, PA 3 Frederick W. Lupfer b: ca 1882 There has got to be some connection - I would surmise that Emma Lupfer Murphy was named for Emma Rice Lupfer; perhaps she was a niece or something. I was going to say maybe she was a sister of these boys, that I don't know about, but that wouldn't give her the surname Murphy since she didn't live long enough to marry. I don't have any more on these boys than what is above. I do have the marriage date of Emma T. Rice and Henry Lupfer as 11 Oct 1876. Since this is a Rice/Murphy Bible you are working with, I would guess the baby's mother was Emma's sister , who married a Murphy, and she was named for her aunt, that would make sense wouldn't it? Unfortunately I have no information on Emma Rice's siblings, if any, nor any Murphys at all. I have LUPFER info back to the Flood more or less, lots of it; it is all on my website, below. Jan From: "Janice A. Frank" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Rice and Murphy families Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] >> Research In a message [759] dated 11/18/01 8:04:59 PM, [email protected] writes: << This is my Direct line to Zachariah : Zachariah and Maria Appolonia Hartmann had a son Heinrich Heinrich married Margaret Thomas Heinrich and Margaret had a son Henry Henry married 1. Fannie Weary 2. Mary Ann Sweger Henry and Mary Ann had Lydia Anne Lydia Anne (Annie) married Franklin Pierce Murphy Thier only son Harry Rhinesmith Murphy married 1. Nina Beck 2. Mary Kathryn Barnes Harry and Mary Kathryn had a daughter Anna Mae Murphy Anna Mae married Ralph Elliot Johnson Jr. thier daughter Saundra Ann (Sandie) Saundra Ann married Gordon Thornwell Jones Jr. Those are my parents. Please send me your direct liine down and if you send me your snail mail address I could make copies of my Rice information and we could share what we both have ?? Hope to hear from you soon, Tracie Jones-Foster >> Research 1850 PA census lists [760] Henry Rice, Borough of Bloomfield, Perry County, 9/3/1850, Dwelling House #62 Family Number #74, Rice, Henry age 38 Occupation "None", Real Estate Value $800. It also lists Mary A., age 22, his wife, and daughers, Margaret, age 9, Elizabeth, age 7, Mary, age 7, Francis, age 4, Harriet M., age 3 1/2 and Conrad Weary age 22 was also living with them at this time, occupation "Merchant". Conrad Weary is probably Fannie Weary's younger brother. 1860 Perry County Census lists Henry, age 45, Mary Ann age 32 w/children Elizabeth 18, Mary 17, Frances 15, Henry 9, Annie 6, Emma F 4, Clara 2 with Charles Foulk, age 23 a carpenter also living with them. Notes for William Heim (Child 6) William had many stagecoach contracts and lived in Green Park, Perry County. A noted whip-cracker. Misc. Notes William H. Rice died Dec. 16, 1882 Aged 67 yrs & 3 mos. His end was peace. Notes for Jesse (Child 12) Lost at night on the Chesapeake. [397] ————————————————————————————————————————————— Last Modified: 31 May 2002 Created: 31 May 2002 ————————————————————————————————————————————— Compiled by: Cousin John from his Master Family File John T. Hammond 55 Codorus Rd. Montgomery, IL 60538 Family Group Sheet 39. Albert E. Myers, “Loy-Rice connection,” 14 Jan 1999, LoyRicec.min, [email protected] 40. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, “Ancestral File (R),” Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple StreetSalt Lake City, UT 84150 USA, http://www.familysearch.com/. 41. Graeme G. Whytlaw Jr., “Rice - Loy - Leisher,” 18 Jan 1999, See Misc. Notes for Zacharia E Rice, GGWJRW, [email protected] 76. “My Ancestors,” The Rice, Hartman and Hench Families, rice.html, http://www.zekes.com/~showers/family.html, 29 Jun 1999. 312. EMAIL: From: Janice A. Frank, “Re: Rice and Murphy families,” Sun, 11/4/01 6:05:47 AM, [email protected], Henry Rice - Mary Sweger. 397. EMAIL: From: Rose Maher, “Rice Family,” Sat, 03 Nov 2001 12:29:49, [email protected], NEWSPAPER.text.txt, Rice Family. 718. “Letter,” THE TIMES, Port Royal, Pa., prior to 1875, Hugh Laird McMeen - Misc. Notes. 721. ancestry.com, “Philip Saylor,” 44669.GED, http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=email&ti=0&f0=44669, 4 Mar 2000, [email protected] 757. ancestry.com, “Zachariah Rice,” 1684859.ged, http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi/1684859.ged, 20 AUG 2001. 759. EMAIL: From: Tracie Jones-Foster, “Re: Rice Family,” Sun, Nov. 18, 2001 8:04:59 PM, [email protected], Re: Rice Family. 760. EMAIL: From: Nancy Rambo, “Re: [PA-Perry] Rice and Murphy families,” Thu, Nov. 1, 2001 6:28:20 PM, [email protected], 1.Rice and Murphy & 2.Rice and Murphy. 761. ancestry.com, “Henry Rice - Mary A. 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Bill Hutchinson, “Hench, Johannes, Family in America, The,” Hench, Lee Owen, Daughters of the American Revolution Library. 901. ancestry.com, “Living Clouse,” 1109262.ged, http://aw t.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GED&db=:1109262&id=I1329, 13 NOV 2000, James Alan Clouse, 212 Castleridge Drive, Glasgow, KY 42141, 270-651-5931, [email protected] 924. EMAIL: From: Tracie Jones-Foster, “Fw: Zachariah Rice Family,” Thur, 3 Jan 2002 8:11 AM, [email protected], 924 - Zachariah Rice Family. 934. EMAIL: From: PA-Perry, “[PA-Perry] Zachariah Rice obit,” Wed, 17 Apr 2002 8:20 AM, [email protected], 934 - [PA-Perry]. 941. ancestry.com, “Living Gutshall,” 1974710.ged, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GED&db=:1974710&id=I960837 15, 24 Mar 2002, James Gutshall <[email protected]>. 949. James Gutshall <[email protected]>, “Janice A. Frank.” 1000. ancestry.com, “Early Juniata Co PA Families,” 1000 - Juniata Co PA [1-9].pdf, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=juniata&id=I797, Updated: Fri May 24 19:11:11 2002, Contact: Michael Milliken <[email protected]>.