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    1. Re: Stroups of Pfoutz Valley
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Troub, Traub Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/odB.2ACI/283.1.1 Message Board Post: I am a decendant of the Troub's origionally Traub. I am looking for information on William Gotlieb and Gotlieb Traub. If I am not mistaken Gotlieb was the one who changed the spelling of Traub to Troub. These two or at least Gotlieb lived in New Haven Township, in Gratiot County, MI. If any one has information to share I would appreciate it.

    10/12/2004 04:22:22
    1. RE: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures
    2. Way Worley, Amy
    3. Please send them to me. -----Original Message----- From: Donna Heller Zinn [mailto:djzinn@pa.net] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 9:54 AM To: PAPERRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures Hello Fellow Listers: The Perry Historians - as you may or may not know - is a genealogical library located just east of New Bloomfield, Centre Twp., Perry Co., PA.. We have a great deal of pictures, that we have acquired over the many years, currently in our holding that are unidentified. I have made photocopies of just two of them and will send a scanned image of them to those of you who would like to take a try at identifying them for us. Both photos were taken by Perry County photographers - one from Lenney in Newport and the other from E. C. Miller when he had a studio in Loysville. Please let me know if you are interested. Thanks in advance for your interest. Donna Heller Zinn volunteer librarian & researcher at The Perry Historians ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

    10/12/2004 04:02:45
    1. Re: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures
    2. Judith Bookwalter
    3. Would you please send them to me too. Judy Bookwalter --- Donna Heller Zinn <djzinn@pa.net> wrote: > Hello Fellow Listers: > > The Perry Historians - as you may or may not know - > is a genealogical library located just east of New > Bloomfield, Centre Twp., Perry Co., PA.. We have a > great deal of pictures, that we have acquired over > the many years, currently in our holding that are > unidentified. I have made photocopies of just two > of them and will send a scanned image of them to > those of you who would like to take a try at > identifying them for us. Both photos were taken by > Perry County photographers - one from Lenney in > Newport and the other from E. C. Miller when he had > a studio in Loysville. Please let me know if you > are interested. > > Thanks in advance for your interest. > Donna Heller Zinn > volunteer librarian & researcher at The Perry > Historians > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com

    10/12/2004 12:31:41
    1. Washington State Records
    2. Barbara
    3. Washington state has put their records on-line at http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov They're easy to search.

    10/11/2004 02:27:09
    1. Re: PAPERRY-D Digest V04 #172
    2. would be ibterested in seeing the pics please, Thank you Linda

    10/10/2004 06:57:19
    1. Old Pictures.....
    2. Is there any way to post these photos onto your website for browsing? I would be interested in seeing these too! Susan Jeffery Hello Fellow Listers: The Perry Historians - as you may or may not know - is a genealogical library located just east of New Bloomfield, Centre Twp., Perry Co., PA.. We have a great deal of pictures, that we have acquired over the many years, currently in our holding that are unidentified. I have made photocopies of just two of them and will send a scanned image of them to those of you who would like to take a try at identifying them for us. Both photos were taken by Perry County photographers - one from Lenney in Newport and the other from E. C. Miller when he had a studio in Loysville. Please let me know if you are interested. Thanks in advance for your interest. Donna Heller Zinn volunteer librarian & researcher at The Perry Historians

    10/10/2004 03:51:11
    1. RE: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures
    2. Marvin Huggins
    3. Can these unidentified photos be scanned and posted online somewhere so many of us can look at them? Marvin ===================================== Marvin A. Huggins Saint Louis, Missouri marvinh@pobox.com -----Original Message----- From: Mary Lu Keef [mailto:marest@frontiernet.net] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:46 AM To: PAPERRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures Hi Donna.... I would be very interested in seeing the photos. Thanks Mary Lu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Heller Zinn" <djzinn@pa.net> To: <PAPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 9:54 AM Subject: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures > Hello Fellow Listers: > > The Perry Historians - as you may or may not know - is a genealogical library located just east of New Bloomfield, Centre Twp., Perry Co., PA.. We have a great deal of pictures, that we have acquired over the many years, currently in our holding that are unidentified. I have made photocopies of just two of them and will send a scanned image of them to those of you who would like to take a try at identifying them for us. Both photos were taken by Perry County photographers - one from Lenney in Newport and the other from E. C. Miller when he had a studio in Loysville. Please let me know if you are interested. > > Thanks in advance for your interest. > Donna Heller Zinn > volunteer librarian & researcher at The Perry Historians > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/

    10/10/2004 03:48:31
    1. Re: HOLTZMAN/HOLSMAN----LENHART
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Holtzman Holsman Lenhart Dilley Felton McCabe Smith Rodenbaugh Foust Ehmke McDowell Blann Bowman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/odB.2ACI/831.1 Message Board Post: If you look in the history of Guthrie County, Iowa, you will find many mentions of Holsmans, who were among early settler in that area. I am currently working on part of that line...in summary: William (m. Lucy Dilley) was one son of George and Hannah. One son of William was George Washington (m. Caroline Elizabeth Felton). (Note: I believe that a search on this union may bring up an error, wherein Caroline Elizabeth Felton is listed as married to Frank Holsman.) One daughter of George Washington was Grace Erma Holsman (m. Clement Marion McCabe), who was my great grandmother and whom I knew until 1965. One daughter of Clement and Grace was Lois Erma McCabe, who married Clyde Burton Smith. They were my grandparents and lived in Casey Iowa. One daugher of Clyde and Lois was my mother, Delores Jo Smith Rodenbaugh Foust, who first married Leonard James Rodenbaugh of Guthrie Center, and later married Robert Eugene Foust. I am one daughter of Leonard and Delores, later adopted legally by Robert. My name is Lauretta Joy Rodenbaugh Foust Ehmke Payne (don't ask!). I also have children, and two grandchildren, if you care to fill in that line. I may be able to provide you with some leads if you can be more specific as to whom you are looking for... Good luck!

    10/10/2004 02:41:22
    1. Re: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures
    2. Alice Derr
    3. Donna, I would like to see the pictures also. Thanks! Alice

    10/10/2004 02:29:42
    1. Re: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures
    2. Jerry Hetrick
    3. Hi Donna Would love to see the pics you have. Jerry Hetrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Heller Zinn" <djzinn@pa.net> To: <PAPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 8:54 AM Subject: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures > Hello Fellow Listers: > > The Perry Historians - as you may or may not know - is a genealogical library located just east of New Bloomfield, Centre Twp., Perry Co., PA.. We have a great deal of pictures, that we have acquired over the many years, currently in our holding that are unidentified. I have made photocopies of just two of them and will send a scanned image of them to those of you who would like to take a try at identifying them for us. Both photos were taken by Perry County photographers - one from Lenney in Newport and the other from E. C. Miller when he had a studio in Loysville. Please let me know if you are interested. > > Thanks in advance for your interest. > Donna Heller Zinn > volunteer librarian & researcher at The Perry Historians > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

    10/10/2004 11:49:15
    1. Re: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures
    2. Donna... I would be interested.. thanks!

    10/10/2004 11:21:33
    1. Re: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures
    2. Susan J Fevola
    3. Hi Donna, I would be interested in the photos that you have scanned. Thanks. Susan susanjf@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/ month - visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today!

    10/10/2004 08:27:19
    1. Robert Powhattan Trego b. 1891
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Trego Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/odB.2ACI/841 Message Board Post: I have a Robert Powhattan Trego b. about 1891 in Perry Pa. His parents were Levi L. & Josephine. Can anyone help me with this?

    10/10/2004 07:45:45
    1. Re: [PA-Perry] Trip to Juniata, Perry, Mifflin, and Cumberland Co
    2. Miles Carr
    3. Thank you for sharing your experience, I plan on making a trip there also and it's always good to hear of another's "tips". Thanks again, Beverly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <brivas1@cox.net> To: <PAPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:24 PM Subject: [PA-Perry] Trip to Juniata, Perry, Mifflin, and Cumberland Co > I would like to thank all of you who so kindly responded to my appeal > (through Larry Snyder, bless his heart) about lodging in the Mifflintown > area, Juniata Co. > > I did find the Econo-Lodge. Don't be put off by a price quoted on the > internet. I called them and got a substantially lower quote. They are > still a good place: clean, friendly, etc. They also now have a laptop > in their lobby connected to the internet, plus a connection if you have > your own laptop. The use is free. > > I did have problems finding places to eat. Being from the > South/Southwest, I didn't find the food at the two nearest places to > really be that good, according to my tastes. Unless you want to drive > to Lewistown, I just didn't find that many places to eat around there, > especially if you're staying for some time. > > However, I have to repeat that the ladies in the Juniata Co courthouse > are among the friendliest and nicest I've ever encountered. This holds > true through the years. I certainly owe them a big thanks for their > help. > > The young lady in the Perry county courthouse was also a very friendly, > helpful person. Perry county now has their records on computers in the > records office, and it's really easy to look them up and print them > out. I just wish I could access them from my home. > > I did go to Cumberland county also. Now that was harder. Some of the > people were nice, but then some of them made me feel as if I were an > intruder and had no right there. Perhaps they are just busier? I don't > know, but it was hard getting anything there. I had to lug big books > from one end of a room to another to get someone to make me copies, and > then lug the books back to their place. No one offered to help > either. After about 10 such trips, your energy and eagerness to > research are both starting to wilt. They have some new "button" system > for recording? the copies you make, and in order to be able to use one, > I had to give over my carkeys as security. I'm not quite sure just > what those buttons do, but I still ended up paying by check. > > Not to leave out Mifflin county either. The ladies are nice and > willing to help. They were working on installing that new button system > on their microfiche readers so the access was a little limited. The > only bad part is going down to the vault when you can't find the records > on a microfiche. > > It was a great trip and I did find some crucial information. I would > advise anyone going to make sure of the dates they are looking for. The > mish-mash mess of those 4 counties is terrible. If you need something > from 1830 in Juniata county, you had better look in Mifflin or > Cumberland, depending on which part of the county you need. Then > there's the difference between 1819 and 1820 as far as items in Perry > county. Often, something may have been recorded in an older county > anyway. I guess what I'm saying is that the further back you go, the > more you need to be willing to check out all four counties. There is a > book I'd recommend as a guide to all the splits and new counties, > townships, etc. It's called "Mother Cumberland - Tracing Your > Ancestorsin South-Central Pennsylvania" and it is available in at least > the 3 Historical Societies I visited. It's not expensive, and it does a > good job of explaining the different geographical realignings. > > Barbara Rivas > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

    10/10/2004 06:52:11
    1. Re: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures
    2. Mary Lu Keef
    3. Hi Donna.... I would be very interested in seeing the photos. Thanks Mary Lu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Heller Zinn" <djzinn@pa.net> To: <PAPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 9:54 AM Subject: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures > Hello Fellow Listers: > > The Perry Historians - as you may or may not know - is a genealogical library located just east of New Bloomfield, Centre Twp., Perry Co., PA.. We have a great deal of pictures, that we have acquired over the many years, currently in our holding that are unidentified. I have made photocopies of just two of them and will send a scanned image of them to those of you who would like to take a try at identifying them for us. Both photos were taken by Perry County photographers - one from Lenney in Newport and the other from E. C. Miller when he had a studio in Loysville. Please let me know if you are interested. > > Thanks in advance for your interest. > Donna Heller Zinn > volunteer librarian & researcher at The Perry Historians > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

    10/10/2004 06:46:10
    1. Re: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures
    2. Yes, please send unidentified pics - would love to see them. May be some family. Thanks, Barbara and John Barber

    10/10/2004 06:12:07
    1. Re: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures
    2. Miles Carr
    3. I would like to see them. Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Heller Zinn" <djzinn@pa.net> To: <PAPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 9:54 AM Subject: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures > Hello Fellow Listers: > > The Perry Historians - as you may or may not know - is a genealogical library located just east of New Bloomfield, Centre Twp., Perry Co., PA.. We have a great deal of pictures, that we have acquired over the many years, currently in our holding that are unidentified. I have made photocopies of just two of them and will send a scanned image of them to those of you who would like to take a try at identifying them for us. Both photos were taken by Perry County photographers - one from Lenney in Newport and the other from E. C. Miller when he had a studio in Loysville. Please let me know if you are interested. > > Thanks in advance for your interest. > Donna Heller Zinn > volunteer librarian & researcher at The Perry Historians > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

    10/10/2004 05:46:57
    1. Re: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures
    2. Any idea when they were taken? > > From: "Donna Heller Zinn" <djzinn@pa.net> > Date: 2004/10/10 Sun AM 09:54:04 EDT > To: PAPERRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures > > Hello Fellow Listers: > > The Perry Historians - as you may or may not know - is a genealogical library located just east of New Bloomfield, Centre Twp., Perry Co., PA.. We have a great deal of pictures, that we have acquired over the many years, currently in our holding that are unidentified. I have made photocopies of just two of them and will send a scanned image of them to those of you who would like to take a try at identifying them for us. Both photos were taken by Perry County photographers - one from Lenney in Newport and the other from E. C. Miller when he had a studio in Loysville. Please let me know if you are interested. > > Thanks in advance for your interest. > Donna Heller Zinn > volunteer librarian & researcher at The Perry Historians > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > Life is full of choices. Try to make good ones.

    10/10/2004 05:33:53
    1. Trip to Juniata, Perry, Mifflin, and Cumberland Co
    2. Barbara
    3. I would like to thank all of you who so kindly responded to my appeal (through Larry Snyder, bless his heart) about lodging in the Mifflintown area, Juniata Co. I did find the Econo-Lodge. Don't be put off by a price quoted on the internet. I called them and got a substantially lower quote. They are still a good place: clean, friendly, etc. They also now have a laptop in their lobby connected to the internet, plus a connection if you have your own laptop. The use is free. I did have problems finding places to eat. Being from the South/Southwest, I didn't find the food at the two nearest places to really be that good, according to my tastes. Unless you want to drive to Lewistown, I just didn't find that many places to eat around there, especially if you're staying for some time. However, I have to repeat that the ladies in the Juniata Co courthouse are among the friendliest and nicest I've ever encountered. This holds true through the years. I certainly owe them a big thanks for their help. The young lady in the Perry county courthouse was also a very friendly, helpful person. Perry county now has their records on computers in the records office, and it's really easy to look them up and print them out. I just wish I could access them from my home. I did go to Cumberland county also. Now that was harder. Some of the people were nice, but then some of them made me feel as if I were an intruder and had no right there. Perhaps they are just busier? I don't know, but it was hard getting anything there. I had to lug big books from one end of a room to another to get someone to make me copies, and then lug the books back to their place. No one offered to help either. After about 10 such trips, your energy and eagerness to research are both starting to wilt. They have some new "button" system for recording? the copies you make, and in order to be able to use one, I had to give over my carkeys as security. I'm not quite sure just what those buttons do, but I still ended up paying by check. Not to leave out Mifflin county either. The ladies are nice and willing to help. They were working on installing that new button system on their microfiche readers so the access was a little limited. The only bad part is going down to the vault when you can't find the records on a microfiche. It was a great trip and I did find some crucial information. I would advise anyone going to make sure of the dates they are looking for. The mish-mash mess of those 4 counties is terrible. If you need something from 1830 in Juniata county, you had better look in Mifflin or Cumberland, depending on which part of the county you need. Then there's the difference between 1819 and 1820 as far as items in Perry county. Often, something may have been recorded in an older county anyway. I guess what I'm saying is that the further back you go, the more you need to be willing to check out all four counties. There is a book I'd recommend as a guide to all the splits and new counties, townships, etc. It's called "Mother Cumberland - Tracing Your Ancestorsin South-Central Pennsylvania" and it is available in at least the 3 Historical Societies I visited. It's not expensive, and it does a good job of explaining the different geographical realignings. Barbara Rivas

    10/10/2004 05:24:17
    1. Re: [PA-Perry] Old Unidentified Pictures
    2. Barbara
    3. I'd like to see them, Donna. Thanks Barbara Donna Heller Zinn wrote: >Hello Fellow Listers: > >The Perry Historians - as you may or may not know - is a genealogical library located just east of New Bloomfield, Centre Twp., Perry Co., PA.. We have a great deal of pictures, that we have acquired over the many years, currently in our holding that are unidentified. I have made photocopies of just two of them and will send a scanned image of them to those of you who would like to take a try at identifying them for us. Both photos were taken by Perry County photographers - one from Lenney in Newport and the other from E. C. Miller when he had a studio in Loysville. Please let me know if you are interested. > >Thanks in advance for your interest. >Donna Heller Zinn >volunteer librarian & researcher at The Perry Historians > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > >

    10/10/2004 05:08:17