Don, Thanks. This is one of those puzzles I think. Since the Smithers family had been in Berks Co. for years, it seemed like they would have been placed in Northumberland when it was formed in 1772 from parts of Berks. However, The PA Archives book comes up with Rev War records for a George and Jacob Smithers (various spellings) as being in the Northampton militia. So, does that mean they moved? Then to make it more interesting there are 3 land warrants for George in 1785 and 1786 in NORTHUMBERLAND CO. Just when you think it is going to end the PA Archives comes back and says that George was still in the Northampton militia in 1787. Thanks for the help. I have no idea what the answer will be because George ends up in Luzerne which came out ot Northumberland. So, was he really making all of these moves or is there a different answer? Eleanor Don Renninger wrote: > > Eleanor: > > I have copied, by a third party, Pennsylvania records. Have had them a > long time, at least twenty years, book title doesn't show. You mentioned > Handy Book, digging deep into the memory bank, that seems to be correct. > Anyway , it shows Northumberland as being formed from parts of > Lancaster, Berks, Bedford, Cumberland and Northampton. Sooo, the plot > thickens. Should have a little more careful with the "facts", when I > wrote originally. Looking at another source. > > I also have, of equal vintage, a map of Pennsylvania prepared by the > Department of Community Affairs, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. This > shows Northumberland as being the tenth county to be formed and confirms > the counties named above as the sources. Willing to accept as a "ligit" > source. Some of the counties were huge in those days, for example > Cumberland was the entire central and SW section of Pennsylvania > extending to what is now the West Virginia and Ohio lines, as of 1750. > > Don > GEN-PICS wrote: > > >Don, > >According to the Handy Book Northumberland was formed from Lancaster, Berks, and > Cumberland. There is no mention that it was formed from Northampton. Could you > cite your source so that I can check it out for a comparison of the two? It > might even require a third source to get the locations straight. > >Thanks. > >Eleanor > > > > > >Don Renninger wrote: > > > > > > Eleanor: > > > > > > Northumberland County was formed in 1772, until this date it was part of > > > Northampton County. Northampton was created in 1752, so perhaps the > > > records are "mixed" between them. > > > > > > My ancestors are from Nothumberland, however were in Montgomery > > > County(then a part of Philadelphia County) during the war. Were not > > > involved with the military. > > > > > > Don > > > > > > GEN-PICS wrote: > > > > > > >Has anyone checked the status of men from Northumberland Co. going to > > > NORTHAMPTON Co. to serve during the Rev War? We can't tell if we are chasing > two > > > George Smithers or one. I was told that a majority of the men living in > > > Northumberland went to Northampton to serve. I have never heard of people > > > leaving en masse from their own county to serve in another county. However, > I > > > know that ALL things are possible in genealogy. Has anyone ever heard of > this? > > > Does anyone have a Rev War soldier from Northumberland that served in > > > Northampton? > > > > > > > >Thanks. > > > >Eleanor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Eleanor: Your problem, of which I have no solution, sort of reminds me of the old genealogical story of the man (true story?) who was born, raised, did the usual adult things and died; all in different counties, but NEVER moved. Seems there were many boundary changes over the years. Don GEN-PICS wrote: >Don, >Thanks. This is one of those puzzles I think. Since the Smithers family had been in Berks Co. for years, it seemed like they would have been placed in Northumberland when it was formed in 1772 from parts of Berks. However, The PA Archives book comes up with Rev War records for a George and Jacob Smithers (various spellings) as being in the Northampton militia. So, does that mean they moved? Then to make it more interesting there are 3 land warrants for George in 1785 and 1786 in NORTHUMBERLAND CO. Just when you think it is going to end the PA Archives comes back and says that George was still in the Northampton militia in 1787. > >Thanks for the help. I have no idea what the answer will be because George ends up in Luzerne which came out ot Northumberland. So, was he really making all of these moves or is there a different answer? >Eleanor > > >Don Renninger wrote: > > > > Eleanor: > > > > I have copied, by a third party, Pennsylvania records. Have had them a > > long time, at least twenty years, book title doesn't show. You mentioned > > Handy Book, digging deep into the memory bank, that seems to be correct. > > Anyway , it shows Northumberland as being formed from parts of > > Lancaster, Berks, Bedford, Cumberland and Northampton. Sooo, the plot > > thickens. Should have a little more careful with the "facts", when I > > wrote originally. Looking at another source. > > > > I also have, of equal vintage, a map of Pennsylvania prepared by the > > Department of Community Affairs, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. This > > shows Northumberland as being the tenth county to be formed and confirms > > the counties named above as the sources. Willing to accept as a "ligit" > > source. Some of the counties were huge in those days, for example > > Cumberland was the entire central and SW section of Pennsylvania > > extending to what is now the West Virginia and Ohio lines, as of 1750. > > > > Don > > GEN-PICS wrote: > > > > >Don, > > >According to the Handy Book Northumberland was formed from Lancaster, Berks, and > > Cumberland. There is no mention that it was formed from Northampton. Could you > > cite your source so that I can check it out for a comparison of the two? It > > might even require a third source to get the locations straight. > > >Thanks. > > >Eleanor > > > > > > > > >Don Renninger wrote: > > > > > > > > Eleanor: > > > > > > > > Northumberland County was formed in 1772, until this date it was part of > > > > Northampton County. Northampton was created in 1752, so perhaps the > > > > records are "mixed" between them. > > > > > > > > My ancestors are from Nothumberland, however were in Montgomery > > > > County(then a part of Philadelphia County) during the war. Were not > > > > involved with the military. > > > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > GEN-PICS wrote: > > > > > > > > >Has anyone checked the status of men from Northumberland Co. going to > > > > NORTHAMPTON Co. to serve during the Rev War? We can't tell if we are chasing > > two > > > > George Smithers or one. I was told that a majority of the men living in > > > > Northumberland went to Northampton to serve. I have never heard of people > > > > leaving en masse from their own county to serve in another county. However, > > I > > > > know that ALL things are possible in genealogy. Has anyone ever heard of > > this? > > > > Does anyone have a Rev War soldier from Northumberland that served in > > > > Northampton? > > > > > > > > > >Thanks. > > > > >Eleanor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >