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    1. [PANORTHU-L] Christian Messner

    3. Descendants of Christian Messner 1 Christian MESSNER b: February 12, 1830 in Northumberland Co., PA d: March 19, 1871 in Wittenberg, Hutchinson Co., SD .. +Elizabeth SPATZ b: May 26, 1833 in Lower Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA d: Aft. 1900 Father: Joseph Spotts Mother: Mary Anna Schott ... 2 Riley Spotts MESSNER b: December 8, 1851 in Northumberland Co., PA d: 1934 in Rockford Twp., Winnebago Co., IL ....... +Malinda W. DREIBELBIS b: in Northumberland Co., PA d: 1941 in Rockford, Winnebago Co., IL Father: Abraham A. Dreibelbis Mother: Elizabeth Wentzel ........ 3 Ramsey C. MESSNER ........ 3 Roy G. MESSNER ........ 3 William A. MESSNER b: 1879 in Carroll Co., IL ............ +Helen ? ........ 3 Ernest MESSNER b: Aft. 1880 ........ 3 Robert MESSNER b: Aft. 1880 ... 2 Sarah Miranda MESSNER b: July 29, 1853 in Northumberland Co., PA d: February 4, 1872 Burial: Evangelical Church Cemetery, County Line, Northumberland Co., PA ....... +Elias SPOTTS b: April 1846 in Lower Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA m: 1871 d: August 19, 1912 in Northumberland Co., PA Burial: Stone Valley Church Cemetery, Hickory Corners, Lower Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA Father: John Adam Spotts Mother: Lydia Hepner ........ 3 Sarah Kora SPOTTS b: 1871 ... 2 Hannah Malinda MESSNER b: September 15, 1855 in Northumberland Co., PA ....... +Isaac W. HEPNER b: November 1852 in Northumberland Co., PA (appears in 1880 Lower Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA and 1900 Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL and 1910 Shannon Twp., Carroll Co., IL census) m: Abt. 1873 Father: Simon Hepner Mother: Elisabeth Potteiger ........ 3 Harvey E. HEPNER b: February 1873 in Lower Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA (appears in 1900 Rock Creek Twp., Carroll Co., IL census) ............ +Rose ? b: January 1874 in IL ........ 3 Elizabeth Alberta "Berdie" HEPNER b: Abt. 1875 in PA ............ +Aaron Clinton PAUL b: Abt. 1867 in IL (appears in 1910 Shannon Twp., Carroll Co., IL census) m: October 16, 1890 in Ogle Co., IL d: January 10, 1929 in Winnebago Co., IL Father: Joseph Paul Mother: Rebecca Robins ........ 3 Emma C. HEPNER b: Abt. 1877 in Lower Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA ............ +Uriah PAUL b: Abt. 1877 in IL (appears in 1910 Shannon Twp., Carroll Co., IL census, living in OK in 1909) m: March 15, 1898 in Ogle Co., IL Father: Joseph Paul Mother: Rebecca Robins ........ 3 Minda HEPNER b: Abt. 1879 in Lower Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA ............ +Clifford J. PURCELL b: Abt. 1872 in IL m: October 14, 1900 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL ........ 3 Charles KEPNER b: March 1882 in PA ........ 3 William C. HEPNER b: May 12, 1885 d: April 28, 1894 Burial: Brookville Cemetery, Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL ........ 3 Joseph Dermont KEPNER b: September 16, 1887 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL ............ +Cora Pearl MERRITT b: February 14, 1890 m: April 17, 1908 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL ........ 3 Mabel KEPNER b: September 1889 in PA ........ 3 Viola Lillian HEPNER b: September 6, 1889 in Ogle Co., IL ... *2nd Husband of Hannah Malinda MESSNER: ....... +Joseph N. POWLEY b: 1864 m: March 10, 1891 in Dauphin Co., PA ... *3rd Husband of Hannah Malinda MESSNER: ....... +Franklin K. RICKERT b: January 11, 1854 in Dauphin Co., PA m: Aft. 1922 d: September 25, 1928 in Dauphin Co., PA Burial: Maple Grove Cemetery, Elizabethville, Dauphin Co., PA Father: Peter Rickert Mother: Elizabeth Klinger ... 2 Phoebe Ann MESSNER b: November 8, 1856 in Northumberland Co., PA d: July 8, 1949 in Vancouver, Clark Co., WA ....... +Jacob Monroe RUDISEL b: in Northumberland Co., PA m: November 23, 1873 in Uniontown, Fayette Co., PA d: January 24, 1913 Father: Adam Rudisel ... 2 Mary Agnes MESSNER b: 1859 ... 2 Emma Jane MESSNER b: December 5, 1861 in Northumberland Co., PA ... 2 John Spotts MESSNER b: May 20, 1863 in (appears in 1910 Cherry Grove Twp., Carroll Co., IL census) d: May 3, 1951 in Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL ....... +Ida Agnes SHILEY b: February 10, 1869 m: 1888 d: March 31, 1950 Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL ........ 3 Pearl Olive MESSNER b: 1889 ............ +Cloyd Clayton SMITH b: 1890 m: 1915 d: 1940 Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL ........ 3 Lester Shiley MESSNER b: 1898 ............ +Margaret Mae RODERICK b: 1900 m: 1919 ........ 3 Fern Elizabeth MESSNER b: 1903 ............ +Fred Conrad GRAEHLING b: 1901 m: 1922 d: 1981 Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: Henry Graehling Mother: Mary E. ? ........ 3 Raymond Clifford MESSNER b: August 15, 1891 ............ +Ethel Fay BEIDLER b: October 21, 1892 m: January 9, 1912 d: 1947 Father: G. Henry Beidler Mother: Ida Puterbaugh ... 2 Joseph Ellsworth MESSNER b: February 13, 1867 in Northumberland Co., PA d: 1949 in Rockford Twp., Winnebago Co., IL ....... +Mabel PITNEY m: 1891 d: 1942 in Rockford Twp., Winnebago Co., IL Roger Cramer Peoria, Arizona <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/RogerCubs/index.html">Roger & Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site</A> http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/">Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site</A> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/

    10/18/2003 05:57:58
    1. Re: [PANORTHU-L] Christian Messner
    2. Nelson Sulouff

    3. Hello Roger, I see you include in a message posted today on North'd Co. ListServ a number of Hepners descended from "+Isaac W. HEPNER b: November 1852 in Northumberland Co., PA (appears in 1880 Lower Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA....)." I think we have had earlier correspondence, but not about HEPNER. I have a George Hepner (b. 1783 birthplace uncertain- d.1835) m. Eva Weiser (b.1782 Womelsdorf, Berks Co. d. 1846). I figure George probably migrated westward during expansion from Berks Co. into lower North'd Co. at the end of the 18th or very beginning of the 19th C. George and Eva lived out their lives in lower North'd Co. and are both buried in the Lutheran & Reformed churchyard in Hebe (Jordan Twp.) lower North'd Co. Starting in the early 19th C. I have hundreds of descendants for this couple. Regretably I do not find your Isaac W. Hepner b. 1852 among them. I suggest Isaac might have been part of my Hepner clan but possibly became lost from family records because he moved on west to Illinois. If you are looking for your Isaac Hepner's ancestors and would like to consider some families I have in my files, let me know. On the other hand, if you have Isaac's ancestors traced back to include my George Hepner b. 1783 (probably in Berks Co.), please let me know what you think I am missing. Best regards, Nelson R. Sulouff Oro Valley AZ Admin for SULOUFF & SULOFF ListServs and Boards- SULOUFF-Admin@RootsWeb.com Admin for NOETLING ListServ and Boards- NOETLING-Admin@RootsWeb.com Admin for GEISS and GEISE ListServs and Boards- GEISE-Admin@RootsWeb.com Publications: "Johannes Zulauf, Soldier-Immigrant, Father of Sulouffs and Suloffs In America," (Parts I and II), published by JOURNAL OF THE JOHANNES SCHWALM HISTORICAL ASSN.; Vol 5, No. 4 (1996) and Vol. 6, No. 1 (1997) A SULOUFF AND SULOFF FAMILY HISTORY (678 pp., 174 graphics, over 3350 indexed names, 680 source footnotes). Copyrighted 2001-2003, Library of Congress call number CS71.Z8662001 A SULOUFF AND SULOFF FAMILY HISTORY - Limited distribution CD version available by special arrangement Website for earliest history of the family: http://www.apexsystems.net/users/Nelson/ ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: <RogerCubs@aol.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 8:57 AM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] Christian Messner > Descendants of Christian Messner > (Snip) > ... 2 Hannah Malinda MESSNER b: September 15, 1855 in Northumberland Co., > PA > ....... +Isaac W. HEPNER b: November 1852 in Northumberland Co., PA > (appears in 1880 Lower Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA and 1900 Brookville > Twp., Ogle Co., IL and 1910 Shannon Twp., Carroll Co., IL census) m: Abt. > 1873 Father: Simon Hepner Mother: Elisabeth Potteiger > ........ 3 Harvey E. HEPNER b: February 1873 in Lower Mahanoy Twp., > Northumberland Co., PA (appears in 1900 Rock Creek Twp., Carroll Co., IL > census) > ............ +Rose ? b: January 1874 in IL > > ........ 3 Elizabeth Alberta "Berdie" HEPNER b: Abt. 1875 in PA > > ............ +Aaron Clinton PAUL b: Abt. 1867 in IL (appears in 1910 > Shannon Twp., Carroll Co., IL census) m: October 16, 1890 in Ogle Co., IL > d: January 10, 1929 in Winnebago Co., IL Father: Joseph Paul Mother: > Rebecca Robins > ........ 3 Emma C. HEPNER b: Abt. 1877 in Lower Mahanoy Twp., > Northumberland Co., PA > ............ +Uriah PAUL b: Abt. 1877 in IL (appears in 1910 Shannon > Twp., Carroll Co., IL census, living in OK in 1909) m: March 15, 1898 in Ogle > Co., IL Father: Joseph Paul Mother: Rebecca Robins > ........ 3 Minda HEPNER b: Abt. 1879 in Lower Mahanoy Twp., > Northumberland Co., PA > ............ +Clifford J. PURCELL b: Abt. 1872 in IL m: October > 14, 1900 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL > ........ 3 Charles KEPNER b: March 1882 in PA > > ........ 3 William C. HEPNER b: May 12, 1885 d: April 28, 1894 > Burial: Brookville Cemetery, Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL > ........ 3 Joseph Dermont KEPNER b: September 16, 1887 in Brookville > Twp., Ogle Co., IL > ............ +Cora Pearl MERRITT b: February 14, 1890 m: April 17, > 1908 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL > ........ 3 Mabel KEPNER b: September 1889 in PA > > ........ 3 Viola Lillian HEPNER b: September 6, 1889 in Ogle Co., IL > > ... *2nd Husband of Hannah Malinda MESSNER: > > ....... +Joseph N. POWLEY b: 1864 m: March 10, 1891 in Dauphin Co., PA (Snip)

    10/18/2003 04:26:55