Hi, me again!! what are you after on William Clark and Susanna Bowman.?? Susanna, was sister to my great grandfather. John. she died 9/17/1909. in Tower city. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <Homelybin@aol.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:38 AM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] William Clark > I am looking for information on William Clark b approx 1828 died 1869 in > Northumberland he was married to Susanna Bowman she was born approx. 1830 Hebe > > I find a listing for a William in my St. David's Lutheran and Reformed > Church Book as being born Apr (n.r.) 1839 baptized June 16, 1839 parents David > Clark and Hannah. I am not sure if this is the William I am looking for. > > I am looking for a birth date and death date - also who his parents may have > been to verify the above info. I have tried searching the ancestry census 1850 > & 1860 and find nothing. Would any one know where he is buried? I don't > find him listed in the Cemetery Records of St. Davids > > If anyone can help I would appreciate it. > Barbara in Louisiana email address: homelybin@aol.com > Researching:Schuylkill/Dauphin Cos. > Carl, Trion/Treon/Trean,Kolb,Clark.Bowman/Bauman, Troutman/Trautman, Bruch, > Jury, Schupp/Shoop,Yeager,Matter,Kaiser,Brand,Hengen,Klein,Schaffner, Young, > Miller,Barr,Knoll/Noll/Null,Bashore/Bashoar/Boeshoar,Tshoop,Meyer,Roth, > Philadelphia PA area: > Brenneisen,Nagle,Bechtel,Mann,Pomroy,McNamee >
Hello Bill & Barbara, I have a 4th great grandfather, Jacob Bauman b. 2/1/1752 in Germany. He died 5/16/1829 in Hebe, lower Northumberland Co. Here is a paragraph drawn from my family history about him: "Jacob was born in Germany and emigrated to America, settling in Berks Co. PA. It is believed that his wife, Susanna BRUCK, was probably born in Berks Co., and apparently this is where they were married. They had nine children: names are given in a note attached to their daughter Hannah (below). It is shown by tax records that Jacob BAUMAN>BOWMAN moved to lower Northumberland Co. after 1793 and probably around 1795." Rev. Lester G. Shannon of Williamsport, Pa., who in the 1930's and 1940's researched his wife's (GEISE) family tree, provided much of the "family information" I have on this Bauman/Bowman family and their descendants. Judging from birthdates for their children, it is estimated that Jacob married Susanna Bruck in Berks Co. sometime before 1777. Rev. Shannon recorded Susanna's birthdate as 3/3/1758, location unknown, and her death in Hebe as 12/2/1827. About 12 years ago I composed the paragraphs quoted below for a file on a daughter of Jacob and Susanna named Hannah. She married Samuel GEISE of Northumberland Co. They were my 3rd great grandparents. "Records preserved by the GEISE family show that Hannah's parents, Jacob and Susanna (BRUCK/BRUCH) BAUMAN (later BOWMAN), had nine children. Their names are apparently written in the order typically found in 18th-19th Pennsylvania German wills and other family records, i.e., male children first in the order of their births followed by female children. The female children lack birthdates in the family records, but presumably their names are also arranged according to the order of their births. These records include: Jacob 1777-1859; Samuel 1779-1856; John 1780-1859; Henry 1780-1860; Elizabeth HARTER; Susanna CLARK; Polly CLARK; Sarah RETTINGER; and Hannah GEISE. It is not known if John and Henry were twins, as might appear simply from their same year of birth. Since Hannah is listed last, and family records indicate that Hannah was born in Berks Co. PA, it appears likely that the eight siblings listed before Hannah in this particular WFT CD were also born in Berks Co. Broderbund's WORLD FAMILY TREE (WFT), CD#4, Pedigree #922, provides some variations. This CD lists eleven children for Susanna's parents as follows: Heinrich 8/16/1798-3/6/1866 married to Catharine TROUTMAN, Jacob, John, Susanna, Samuel, Sarah married to Peter RETTINGER, Mary married to John CLARK, Catharine (not named in Geise family records), Hannah married to Samuel GEISEL (sic), Elizabeth married to Mathias Harter, and Martha (not in Geise family records). It might be presumed that the two children named in this list who are not named in Geise family records died young. It is instructive to note that in this list two of Susanna's sisters are listed after her, which makes it possible they were born after the family moved to Northumberland Co. The extensive family tree on this CD records up to seven generations of descendants. Another Broderbund WFT, viz., CD#2, Pedigree #6286, also includes this family and provides names for up to eight generations." Please note that the mentions of "CLARK" in the WFT trees raise questions for me. It appears you might tie into my BAUMAN>BOWMAN line through the marriage of Susanna or Polly to a man named CLARK, or through the marriage of "Mary to John Clark." I have not tried to sort out the Bowman-Clark relationship(s) found in the trees on WFT CDs. I presume you understand that these trees published on the WFT CDs are not proven but contain information provided gratis by various researchers, often with varied reliability. Also, I presume you know that "Polly" is a nickname rather than a name given at birth, so perhaps "Polly" and "Mary" could be one and the same. Please let me know if either of you have an answer to the questions the WFT trees raise for me. If it appears I can contribute anything further, I will be happy to correspond with you at greater length about my BAUMAN>BOWMAN line. Best wishes, Rev. Nelson R. 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Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Homelybin@aol.com> > To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:38 AM > Subject: [PANORTHU-L] William Clark > > > > I am looking for information on William Clark b approx 1828 died 1869 in > > Northumberland he was married to Susanna Bowman she was born approx. 1830 > Hebe > > > > I find a listing for a William in my St. David's Lutheran and Reformed > > Church Book as being born Apr (n.r.) 1839 baptized June 16, 1839 parents > David > > Clark and Hannah. I am not sure if this is the William I am looking for. > > > > I am looking for a birth date and death date - also who his parents may > have > > been to verify the above info. I have tried searching the ancestry census > 1850 > > & 1860 and find nothing. Would any one know where he is buried? I don't > > find him listed in the Cemetery Records of St. Davids > > > > If anyone can help I would appreciate it. > > Barbara in Louisiana email address: homelybin@aol.com