I found your post on Genforum concerning Lewis Dietrich, father of Luella who married Elias Barnes. Elias and Luella were my great grandparents. My grandfather was their son William John. I have Lewis's military records and have located his and Luella's graves. I also have a photo of Luella. I also found another Lewis just a few years younger than our Lewis. I don't know the relationship yet. You seem to be a little farther along in your research than I am so when I have time, I'll transcribe some notes I made from church records. Some of the records from the church that John founded in Mount Carmel still exist in a nearby church. I copied everything concerning a Dietrich, but I don't know the relationship to Lewis. Lewis and Catherine raised a son Lewis, but the caretaker of the cemetery tells me that their was some type of illegitimate birth. Would love to exchange info as you are the first Barnes descended from Elias and Luella that I've come across. Marie (nee Barnes) Berens ----- Original Message ----- From: "F G Albert" <g.h.albert@worldnet.att.net> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] Elida or Lester Girton > I am in receipt of your email. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: marie berens > To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 10:45 AM > Subject: [PANORTHU-L] Elida or Lester Girton > > > Please contact meconcerning a post on genforum. >

Marie, My apologies. I did not read the other posts. Kindly disregard my previous message. Brian --- marie berens <theberens@charter.net> wrote: > I found your post on Genforum concerning Lewis > Dietrich, father of Luella > who married Elias Barnes. Elias and Luella were my > great grandparents. My > grandfather was their son William John. I have > Lewis's military records and > have located his and Luella's graves. I also have a > photo of Luella. I > also found another Lewis just a few years younger > than our Lewis. I don't > know the relationship yet. You seem to be a little > farther along in your > research than I am so when I have time, I'll > transcribe some notes I made > from church records. Some of the records from the > church that John founded > in Mount Carmel still exist in a nearby church. I > copied everything > concerning a Dietrich, but I don't know the > relationship to Lewis. Lewis > and Catherine raised a son Lewis, but the caretaker > of the cemetery tells me > that their was some type of illegitimate birth. > Would love to exchange info > as you are the first Barnes descended from Elias and > Luella that I've come > across. > > Marie (nee Barnes) Berens > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "F G Albert" <g.h.albert@worldnet.att.net> > To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:43 PM > Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] Elida or Lester Girton > > > > I am in receipt of your email. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: marie berens > > To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 10:45 AM > > Subject: [PANORTHU-L] Elida or Lester Girton > > > > > > Please contact meconcerning a post on genforum. > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com

Hello Marie, Are you talking about a post I made? If so, what can I do to help? I don't know much about the Girton family name. Best regards, Brian --- marie berens <theberens@charter.net> wrote: > Please contact meconcerning a post on genforum. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com

I am in receipt of your email. ----- Original Message ----- From: marie berens To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 10:45 AM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] Elida or Lester Girton Please contact meconcerning a post on genforum.

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I have found that my ancestor is John CHERRY . Can any one please help me with more Data on this family? I do not live in the area. I live in NC. I have not seen any of the full articles to Court data that is listed below. The last one a Deed on this page Sarah OSMAN to David MOYER is hard for me to understand does any one understand these deeds? Just have the references were sited. Thank you Jeanie 1. JAMES1 CHERRY died Abt. 1790. He married MRS ELIZABETH CHERRY. Notes for JAMES CHERRY: Will for JAMES CHERRY, of Shamokin, dated Jan. 1, 1790 lists his wife as Elizabeth, with children as Charles, Philip, John, Joseph, Abraham, Mary, James, Jesse, Reuben, Elizabeth, Burris. Directly under the name of JAMES CHERRY is another letter of Administration date, 11/19/1804 with (HundertonCo., New Jersey) and leading across the page to the same wife and children as above. Source: "Wills and Administrations of Northumberland County, Pennsylvania" compiled by Charles Fisher, pub. 1950. Bell Book The following brief of title of the town plat of Shamokin is presented through the courtesy of John P. Helfenstein:- In Deed Book E, p.375. Francis Johnston to Abraham Cherry; agreement dated February 8, 1801; consideration: eight hundred forty-three dollars, to sell the undivided two thirds of the Samuel Clark survey. Entered in Deed Book X, p. 394. Abraham Cherry to John Cherry; assignment dated April 10, 1808; consideration: five hundred sixty-two dollars, for his interest in the foregoing agreement on the Samuel Clark Survey. Entered in Deed Book X, 394 Roger Wolverton, administrator of John Cherry, deceased; commission and return of proceedings in the common pleas court, January, 1831; recites that Francis Johnston died in 1801, seized of the undivided two thirds interest in the Samuel Clark survey, having, on the 3d of February, 1801, agreed to convey said interest to Abraham Cherry for eight hundred forty-three dollars, and that Abraham Cherry agreed to convey said interest to John Cherry by agreement dated the 10th of April, 1808, for five hundred sixty-two dollars. - Entered, January 20, 1831, in Deed Book X, p. 394. Alexander W. Johnston, executor of Alice Johnston, executrix of Francis Johnston, by his attorney in fact, Ebenezer Greenough, to Roger Wolverton, administrator of John Cherry, deceased; deed dated November 22, 1881; consideration, five hundred sixty-two dollars, for the undivided, (now the divided) two thirds interest in the Samuel Clark survey. - Entered, May 19,1882, in Deed Book Y, p.265. Jacob Tomlinson and Mary Tomlinson with John Cherry; agreement dated December 6, 1808; contract mutual (five hundred pounds forfeit) for a division of the Samuel Clark survey by a line "beginning at a stone corner near the road, thence north Seventy-three degrees west thirty perches, to a white-oak, thence south eighty-four degrees west thirty-four perches to a white-oak, thence south seventy-six degrees west sixteen perches to a stone, thence south one degree east to the back line." - Entered, July 12, 1830, The Cherry family was early represented in this locality, and is said to have suffered in the Indian depredations of the Revolutionary period. The name of James Cherry appears as a taxable in Shamokin township in 1788; he was probably the first settler, and cleared land at Luke Fidler, Springfield, and elsewhere, residing at a house subsequently known as Irich's. By the division of the Clark tract in 1803 John Cherry was assigned the lower or western portion. Joseph Cherry settled on the plat near Eagle Bun brewery, where vestiges of his improvements were visible long after his residence there had terminated. Prior to the war of 1812 Abraham Cherry built a saw mill on Shamokin creek opposite the Cameron colliery, and near it stood an old dwelling house, for many years a landmark in this section. Another member of this family had a distillery on the hill east of Shamokin. Children of JAMES CHERRY and MRS CHERRY are: . 2. v. JOHN CHERRY, b. PA; d. Bef. 1840; Stepchild. Generation No. 2 2. JOHN2 CHERRY (JAMES1) was born in PA, and died Bef. 1840. He married ELIZABETH PERSING, daughter of PHILIP PERSING and MARY EVLAND. She was born Abt. 1810 in PA, and died February 22, 1876 in Paxinos Shamokin TWP Northumberland CO PA. Notes for JOHN CHERRY: 1820 census Shamokin TWP, Northumberland CO 2 males under age 10 / 2 males under age 26 and 2 females under age 10 and one female under 26. 1802 in Sunbury Court a Will recorded.Floyd Book His father "came to America in the early days of the development of this region and settled in the lower part of Northumberland county, Pa., passing the remainder of his life here. Beyond the fact that he died when a young man little is known concerning him" John Cherry lived at Hollowing Run, near Fisher's Ferry, in Lower Augusta township, Northumberland county, and there followed his trade, that of blacksmith, throughout his active years. He died there when comparatively a young man, and is buried along the river bank near Fisher's Ferry. THERE IS A WILL FOR A JOHN CHERRY IN 1802 Sunbury Court House have not seen it. Cherry, John Augusta, Northumberland, PA 1840 Name: Cherry, John Home in 1840: Augusta, Northumberland, PA County: Northumberland State: Pennsylvania Year: 1840 Roll: M704_475 Page: 187 Image: 376 males: one under 5, two 5-10, one 40-50 females: one 5-10, one 10-15, one 40-50 More About JOHN CHERRY: Burial: Fishers Ferry PA Residence: 1840, Augusta TWP,Northumberland CO PA Notes for ELIZABETH PERSING: Cherry, Elizabeth Year: 1850 County: Northumberland Township: Shamokin Twp State: Pennsylvania Roll: M432_804 Page: 276 Image: 554 house and family visit 263 age 40, born in PA, Samuel, 13, born in PA, in school, In 1850 she is a widow and lives next door to her grandfather William Persing and next to him lives her father Philip Persing. In 1870 Elizabeth is living with her father her maiden name is used. More About ELIZABETH PERSING: Burial: Blue Church Ralpho TWP Children of JOHN CHERRY and ELIZABETH PERSING are: . 6. vii. CATHARINE A CHERRY, b. September 19, 1822, PA; d. August 28, 1895. 6. CATHARINE A3 CHERRY (JOHN2, JAMES1) was born September 19, 1822 in PA, and died August 28, 1895. She married DAVID H MOYER, son of JACOB MOYER and SARAH MOYER. He was born March 01, 1828 in Shamokin TWP PA, and died February 04, 1897. More About CATHARINE A CHERRY: Burial: Summit Cemetery Residence: 1850, Coal TWP Shamokin PA Notes for DAVID H MOYER: In 1880 he lives in Shamokin TWP with wife and daugther Sarah Adams and grandson Harry L Adams. Can not find the family in 1870 together but it appears as if the 3 daughters live with other people as Servants in different county's of PA. IN DEED BOOK VV PAGE 406 ELIZABETH PERSING (WIDOW) IS SELLING TO DAVID MOYER ...THAT 5 ACRES AND 50 PERCHES NEXT TO PROPERTY OF WILLIAM PERSING AND PETER DIMIG'S LAND .. AND IT PASSES BY ISAAC WOLVERTON'S HEIRS LAND..AND HE ALSO BOUGHT THE OTHER LOT TOO.....PAGE 406 SAYS THAT THE PROPERTY HAD BEEN IN THE HANDS OF MATTHIAS PERSING .........THEN HIS ADMINISTRATOR PUT IT UP FOR AUCTION AND IN 1828 ISAAC WOLVERTON BOUGHT IT.....ISAAC AND WIFE ANN. OND THEY SOLD IT IN 1830 TO JACOB PERSING..AND THEN WILLIAM AND JOHN PERSING GOT IT AND THEY SOLD IT TO PETER DIMIG AND THEN PETER DIMIC AND WIFE ELIZABETH AND WILLIAM PERSING AND WIFE MARGRET SOLD IT TO JACOB PERSIHNG AND ELIZABEHT HIS WIFE... AND THEY SOLD IT IN 1835 TO JOHN VANZANT AND SARAH HIS WIFE.... AND JOHN VANZANT AND WIFE SARAH......IN 1836 SOLD IT TO EMMANUEL ZIMMERMAN AND WIFE HANNAH. AND IN 1856 THE ZIMMERMANS IT TO ELIZABETH PERSING... AND THIS ELIABETH PERSING NOW SELLS IT TO DAVID MOYER....IN MARCH 7 1865,,,,,, Sunbury Court house THERE WAS A DEED FROM JACOB MOYER AND DAVID AND OTHERS (DAVID ADMINISTRATOR......TO DANIEL KELLER BOOK 61 PAGE 13 IN 1871 UPPER MAHONOY TWP. NORTHUMBERLAND CO. PA. Sunbury Court House I SEE A DEED INDEX ABOUT A DEED DAVID MOYER RECEIVES FROM ELIZABETH PERSING. ....BOOK 00 PAGE 35 Sunbury Court House 8 Aug 1860, Shamokin Twp., Paxinow PO, Northumberland Co., PA p. 576, Dwelling 1453, line 6. All born PA. David MOYER, 32, Farmer Catherine A., 36 Mahlon, male, 13 Mary A., 8 Clara E., 5 Sarah E., 1 Next door is probable mother of David Moyer, in dwelling 1454: Sarah Moyer, 64, PA Mahala, female, age 20 More About DAVID H MOYER: Residence: 1860, Paxinos Shamokin TWP Northumberland CO PA Children of CATHARINE CHERRY and DAVID MOYER are: 11. iii. SARAH EMMA MOYER, b. January 07, 1859, Irish Valley, Paxinos PA; d. December 03, 1923, Coal Township PA. Floyd Book PETER MOURY, eldest surviving son of Daniel, was born Nov. 14, 1842, in Shamokin. He received his education in the schools of Columbia county, was reared upon the farm, and in his young manhood learned the carpenter's trade, which he followed for some time at Shamokin and elsewhere in Northumberland county. In all he was engaged at his trade for about thirty years, being at the Big Mountain colliery about eleven years, and also at the Henry Clay, Nelson, Pennsylvania and Green Ridge collieries. Upon giving up his trade he was elected janitor of the McKinley school building, in Coal township, in 1906, and has since filled that position, which occupies all his time. He has long made his home in Shamokin, having built his present home, at No. 1111 Walnut street, in 1886. He is a respected citizen, well known in Shamokin and throughout Coal township. In politics he is a Democrat, in religion a Lutheran. Socially he holds membership in the I.O.O.F. On Jan. 5, 1868, Mr. Moury married Mary A. Moyer, who was born March 10, 1852, daughter of David and Catharine M. (Cherry) Moyer, and fifteen children have been born to their union, namely: Mary C., born Nov. 9, 1868, married John A. Mengel; David died when seventeen years old; Ella R., born March 17, 1872, married William H. Ritche; Daniel H. was born Aug. 29, 1873; John W. was born Jan. 15, 1875; Ida S., born Nov. 19, 1876, married Wilson G., Yoder; Stella C. died in infancy; Clara E., born July 10, 1880, married Edward Hess; Alice W., born March 13, 1883, married Absalom Davis; Bertha E., born July 18, 1884, married Bert Goodman; Sarah M. died when five years old; Fannie A., born Nov. 6, 1888, died when eight years old; Florence M., born March 17, 1891, is at home; Carrie M. and Arthur E. died in infancy. 11. SARAH EMMA4 MOYER (CATHARINE A3 CHERRY, JOHN2, JAMES1) was born January 07, 1859 in Irish Valley, Paxinos PA, and died December 03, 1923 in Coal Township PA.. She married 1 JOHN Q ADAMS Bef. 1877, He died Bef. 1880. She married 2 HENRY ALEXANDER OSMAN Abt. 1880, son of OSMAN and CATHERINE ?. He was born September 01, 1855 in Prussia-Germany, and died March 01, 1917 in Coal Township, Nothumberland County , Shamokin Pa. Notes for SARAH EMMA MOYER: In 1880 she was Sarah Adams widow with one 3 year old child Harry L Adams 1920 A William Moyer 23 years old lives with them. December 4,1923 Shamokin Dispatch ESTEEMED WOMEN IS CLAIMED BY DEATH Widow of Late Henry Osman Succumbed to Heart Failure at Her Home Here Yesterday. Emma Moyer, widow of the late Henry Osman,and one of the community's most highly esteemed women, died at her home, 846 West Mulberry street 10:15 yesterday morning, Although she had been in ill health for some time her death, which was due to heart failure, came rather unexpectedly. The deceased was born in Irish Valley January 7,1859 and had resided in Shamokin for the past 40 years. She was a women of lovable characteristics and enjoyed the friendship of all who knew her. She was a member of the Shepherds of Bethlehem and the Rebekahs, I.O.O.F. she was also a devout member of Salem Reform church. Surviving are the following children: Harvey of Sunbury, Mrs. Raymond Shroyer, Mrs. George Madara, Raymond and Elsie, all of Shamokin. There are also 16 grandchildren and 1 great grand child. Mrs. Osman was the last member of her family there being no surviving brothers or sisters. Her husband Henry Osman proceeded her in death seven years ago. The funeral will be held Friday afternoon, services to be said in Salem Reformed church at 1:30, Rev. Deitz officiating. Burial will be made in the Shamokin cemetery. In 1920 census a William Moyer 23 is a boader in the home. Cemetery plot B3/R2/L7 IN THE COURT HOUSE IN DEED BOOK 116 PAGE 508..... THERE WAS A "RELEASE" SIGNED ......SAYS...SARAH E. OSMAN TO DAVID MOYER JAN 2 1896 KNOW ALL MEN BY THESE PRESENT....THAT I SARAH E. OSMAN OF THE BOROUGH OF SHAMOKIN IN NORTHUMBERLAND CO. PA. DO HEREBY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I HAVE THIS DAY RECEIVED OF AND FROM DAVID MOYER (THE GUARDIAN DULY APPOINTED BY THE ORPHAN'S COURT OF SAID COUNTY OF NORTHUMBERLAND CO. ) THE SUM OF $130.00 IN FULL SATISFACTION AND PAYMENT OF MY SON BEING A MINOR'S SHARE OF THE ESTATE, REAL AND PERSONAL OF MY LATE HUSBAND "JOHN Q. ADAMS 'S ESTATE. AND THEREFORE I DO BY THESE PRESENTS, REMISE ..RELEASE QUIT CLAIM AND FOREVER DISCHARGE THE SAID ' "DAVID MOYER" HIS HEIRS AND EXECUTORS AND ADMINISTRATORS OF AND FROM THE SAID "GUARDIANSHIP" AND OF AND FROM THE SAID LEGACY OR LEGACIES AND OF AND FROM ALL ACTIONS, SUIT PAYMENTS, ACCOUNTS RECKONINGS CLAIMS AND DEMANDS WHAT SO EVER FOR OR BY REASON THEREOF OR OF ANY OTHER ACT MATTER CAUSE OR THING WHAT SO EVER FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD TO THE DAY OF DATE OF THESE PRESENTS. IN WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE HERE UNTO SET MY HAND AND SEAL THE 18TH DAY OF DECEMBER A.D. 1895 WITNESS AT SIGNING ....F. M. ROWE..... SIGNED SARAH E. OSSMAN RECORDED JAN 2ND 1896 BY FREDERIC HASS RECORDER OF DEEDS AND WILLS..... WITNESS FRANCES M. ROWE..... More About SARAH EMMA MOYER: Burial: December 07, 1923, Shamokin Cemetery, Northumberland County PA Cause of Death: Heart failure/Oedemia Children: 1910, Had 13 children - 6 survived Residence: 1910, 842 Mulberry St. Shamokin Pa Widowed: Bet. 1911 - 1920

Can someone tell me the names of Funeral Homes that were in business in Mount Carmel during the 1930's and 1940's? I trying to find out if there was one in particular members of St. John the Baptist RC would have used during the thirties and forties. Thanks.

Mr. Sulouff, Thank you! This looks very promising. At least we now have contact information. Rebecca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson Sulouff" <zuli@sprintmail.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] Methodist Church Question > For archives of United Methodist Church you might look at these sites: > > http://www.gcah.org/Searching.htm (best for genealogy) > > http://www.gcah.org/ (Commission On Archives & History) > > http://www.bakeru.edu/library/Archives/umcarchives.html (Baker U. > collections)

For archives of United Methodist Church you might look at these sites: http://www.gcah.org/Searching.htm (best for genealogy) http://www.gcah.org/ (Commission On Archives & History) http://www.bakeru.edu/library/Archives/umcarchives.html (Baker U. collections) Research center in England for history of the Methodist Churches: http://rylibweb.man.ac.uk/data1/dg/text/method.html Nelson R. Sulouff /////////////////////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Heinz" <mzrubyslipperz@adelphia.net> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 12:19 PM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] Methodist Church Question > Hello, > Does anyone know what records the Methodist Church has & how far back they may go? (Snip)

Hello, Does anyone know what records the Methodist Church has & how far back they may go? I am looking for the marriage record of William BURK/BURKE & Sarah GEARHART..circa 1820's. William was born abt .1800 Pa.( parents unknown) & Sarah was born 1805 in Northumberland Co. ( father was William, mother is still unknown) Their 1st child was born about 1827. We did find them in Northumberland Co in 1830. Any guidence would be very appreciated, as to where to go for documentation for this family. We are really stuck! Thank you, Rebecca Heinz WV

Hi- obits of Millersburg, Dauphin County are on Sentinelnow.com , including some of lower Northumberland County, Dalmatia area; also links to Pillow and Line Mountain. Helen in Florida - surnames of Lower Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland -- Bobb - Bowman - Brosius - Lenker - Patrick -

Tim - thanks for the lead. I have already found some information to add to my data base. BTW - you can sign up with the Citizen Standard to have a weekly reminder by email that new information is posted. Lora (not in any particular order) Searcher for Lefflers, NASCAR fan, Collector of Shawnee pottery ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Shipe" <timothy-shipe@uiowa.edu> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:19 AM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] Obituaries Online > I was pleased to discover that the Sunbury Daily Item website > (http://www.dailyitem.com/) now displays the full text of obituaries. You > can click on the obituaries link on the left side of the screen or go > directly to the obituaries at http://www.legacy.com/dailyitem/LegacyHome.asp. > > The current day's list of names appears on the screen; highlight a name and > click on "display", or just double click on the name, to show the full > text. You can click on the calendar to see the list for an earlier date. > (The first available date is Saturday, 14 February 2004.) You can search > the entire obituary database by last name of the deceased--this should be > useful a few months or years down the road, assuming that they intend to > retain all of the obituaries. There is also a keyword search feature, but > it only works on the current day's obituaries, so it's hard to imagine that > being of much use. > > The Shamokin-Mt. Carmel News Item obituaries have been available online for > some time now at http://www.zwire.com/site/news.asp?brd=2311. (The link is > on the right; you have to scroll down to get to it.) And the Citizen > Standard site (http://www.citizenstandard.com/) has online obituaries > covering the Mahantango and Hegins Valleys and neighboring regions. Both of > these websites have more extensive search capabilities, so you can search > for a surname in the text of all the obituaries. > > I thought some folks might find these links useful. > > Tim >

I was pleased to discover that the Sunbury Daily Item website (http://www.dailyitem.com/) now displays the full text of obituaries. You can click on the obituaries link on the left side of the screen or go directly to the obituaries at http://www.legacy.com/dailyitem/LegacyHome.asp. The current day's list of names appears on the screen; highlight a name and click on "display", or just double click on the name, to show the full text. You can click on the calendar to see the list for an earlier date. (The first available date is Saturday, 14 February 2004.) You can search the entire obituary database by last name of the deceased--this should be useful a few months or years down the road, assuming that they intend to retain all of the obituaries. There is also a keyword search feature, but it only works on the current day's obituaries, so it's hard to imagine that being of much use. The Shamokin-Mt. Carmel News Item obituaries have been available online for some time now at http://www.zwire.com/site/news.asp?brd=2311. (The link is on the right; you have to scroll down to get to it.) And the Citizen Standard site (http://www.citizenstandard.com/) has online obituaries covering the Mahantango and Hegins Valleys and neighboring regions. Both of these websites have more extensive search capabilities, so you can search for a surname in the text of all the obituaries. I thought some folks might find these links useful. Tim

Try this site http://www.infophil.com/Pennsylvania/Alumni/MCAHS/ At 12:31 PM 2/14/2004, you wrote: >Is there a Mount Carmel Public High School Alumni Association? If so, >would someone provide me a point of contact. Thanks.

Can anyone make a connection or help with this family? Descendants of John Shafer 1 John SHAFER .. +Mary DELP ... 2 Mary SHAFER b: in (living in Sunbury, Northumberland Co., PA in 1931) ....... +? KILKEIFER ... 2 Susan SHAFER b: in (living in Sunbury, Northumberland Co., PA in 1931) ....... +? REBUCK ... 2 Elias M. SHAFER b: November 13, 1847 in Dauphin Co., PA (appears in 1930 Maryland Twp., Ogle Co., IL census) d: January 18, 1931 Burial: Adeline Cemetery, Adeline, Maryland Twp., Ogle Co., IL ....... +Lydia Catherine AUSHERMAN b: 1854 in OH m: October 30, 1889 in Forreston Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: October 17, 1927 Burial: Adeline Cemetery, Adeline, Maryland Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: John Ausherman Mother: Sarah McMullen Roger Cramer Peoria, Arizona Roger & Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/

Is there a Mount Carmel Public High School Alumni Association? If so, would someone provide me a point of contact. Thanks.

You can rent newspapers on film from the PA State library via interlibrary loan. Go to this site to explore & then take the info to your local library - http://pilot.sshe.edu:8020/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First I use "subject heading search" & then enter newspapers Pennsylvania Northumberland Sue Marcus In a message dated 2/8/04 5:11:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, MPHolsinger@aol.com writes: > > I hope that at least one or more of you who are regulars on this mailing > > list will be able to make a suggestion or two to help me, a new subscriber. > After a good many years running down tons of family members in the upper > > South, I have only recently turned to another branch of my family and, when > I > did so, was surprised to discover that supposedly a great-grandfather who > was > born and lived as a younger man in Maryland, William H. Spies, a railroader, > > was not only stationed in Sunbury from at least 1872 until his death in 1879 > > (all three of his children supposedly were born there during that period) > but, > again according to family tradition, that he died in the region as a result > of > a train accident on April 15, 1879. > It looks to me that death records in the county for that period are > sketchy, at best, and I can't tell if I will be able to access any > newspapers from > the area way out here in central Illinois where I live or not. > If anyone has any suggestions how I might proceed to find information > about what might have happened back in 1879, how my great-grandfather might > have > died, and, indeed, where he could be buried--I assume his grave is in the > Sunbury area but I am not sure--I would be most grateful. > Many thanks, > > M. Paul Holsinger > >

Thanks,Sue, what a great idea !!!! love'nstuff, Chuck

You can try the Railroad Retirement Board. The pension records start in 1936, but they have several links for information on railroads from before that time. The web site is www.rrb.gov

I hope that at least one or more of you who are regulars on this mailing list will be able to make a suggestion or two to help me, a new subscriber. After a good many years running down tons of family members in the upper South, I have only recently turned to another branch of my family and, when I did so, was surprised to discover that supposedly a great-grandfather who was born and lived as a younger man in Maryland, William H. Spies, a railroader, was not only stationed in Sunbury from at least 1872 until his death in 1879 (all three of his children supposedly were born there during that period) but, again according to family tradition, that he died in the region as a result of a train accident on April 15, 1879. It looks to me that death records in the county for that period are sketchy, at best, and I can't tell if I will be able to access any newspapers from the area way out here in central Illinois where I live or not. If anyone has any suggestions how I might proceed to find information about what might have happened back in 1879, how my great-grandfather might have died, and, indeed, where he could be buried--I assume his grave is in the Sunbury area but I am not sure--I would be most grateful. Many thanks, M. Paul Holsinger