The PENNSYLVANIA LINE, 4th Ed. (1990), p. 33 states, "Northumberland County- Formed in 1772 from Cumberland, Northampton, Lancaster, Berks, and Bedford Counties." Northampton Co. had, in fact, included the majority of the area that became Northumberland Co. in 1772. Since Northumberland Co. was only three years old at the beginning of RevWar and covered such a huge area, with much of it "Indian wilderness," I am guessing, emphasis I'm only guessing, that perhaps the government of the older and better established Northampton Co. was deemed more capable to serve as the recruiting center for troops coming out of Northumberland Co. to the west. From 1772 until after the war ended, Northampton Co. was the more civilized area to the east, stretching along the Delaware River from the NE corner of Pennsylvania all the way south to Bucks and Philadelphia Counties. Pages 158ff in the reference work cited above contain outline maps beginning in 1770 that show the boundaries that were changed to create Northumberland Co. If someone wants copies of these outline maps depicting the creation of Northumberland Co., please E-mail request to me at zuli@sprintmail.com and I will send maps privately as .jpg attachments to E-mail. Nelson R. Sulouff //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: GEN-PICS To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] Rev War Soldiers Don, According to the Handy Book Northumberland was formed from Lancaster, Berks, and Cumberland. There is no mention that it was formed from Northampton. Could you cite your source so that I can check it out for a comparison of the two? It might even require a third source to get the locations straight. Thanks. Eleanor Don Renninger wrote: > > Eleanor: > > Northumberland County was formed in 1772, until this date it was part of > Northampton County. Northampton was created in 1752, so perhaps the > records are "mixed" between them. > > My ancestors are from Nothumberland, however were in Montgomery > County(then a part of Philadelphia County) during the war. Were not > involved with the military. > > Don > > GEN-PICS wrote: > > >Has anyone checked the status of men from Northumberland Co. going to > NORTHAMPTON Co. to serve during the Rev War? We can't tell if we are chasing two > George Smithers or one. I was told that a majority of the men living in > Northumberland went to Northampton to serve. I have never heard of people > leaving en masse from their own county to serve in another county. However, I > know that ALL things are possible in genealogy. Has anyone ever heard of this? > Does anyone have a Rev War soldier from Northumberland that served in > Northampton? > > > >Thanks. > >Eleanor

Don, According to the Handy Book Northumberland was formed from Lancaster, Berks, and Cumberland. There is no mention that it was formed from Northampton. Could you cite your source so that I can check it out for a comparison of the two? It might even require a third source to get the locations straight. Thanks. Eleanor Don Renninger wrote: > > Eleanor: > > Northumberland County was formed in 1772, until this date it was part of > Northampton County. Northampton was created in 1752, so perhaps the > records are "mixed" between them. > > My ancestors are from Nothumberland, however were in Montgomery > County(then a part of Philadelphia County) during the war. Were not > involved with the military. > > Don > > GEN-PICS wrote: > > >Has anyone checked the status of men from Northumberland Co. going to > NORTHAMPTON Co. to serve during the Rev War? We can't tell if we are chasing two > George Smithers or one. I was told that a majority of the men living in > Northumberland went to Northampton to serve. I have never heard of people > leaving en masse from their own county to serve in another county. However, I > know that ALL things are possible in genealogy. Has anyone ever heard of this? > Does anyone have a Rev War soldier from Northumberland that served in > Northampton? > > > >Thanks. > >Eleanor > > > > > > > > >

Eleanor: Northumberland County was formed in 1772, until this date it was part of Northampton County. Northampton was created in 1752, so perhaps the records are "mixed" between them. My ancestors are from Nothumberland, however were in Montgomery County(then a part of Philadelphia County) during the war. Were not involved with the military. Don GEN-PICS wrote: >Has anyone checked the status of men from Northumberland Co. going to NORTHAMPTON Co. to serve during the Rev War? We can't tell if we are chasing two George Smithers or one. I was told that a majority of the men living in Northumberland went to Northampton to serve. I have never heard of people leaving en masse from their own county to serve in another county. However, I know that ALL things are possible in genealogy. Has anyone ever heard of this? Does anyone have a Rev War soldier from Northumberland that served in Northampton? > >Thanks. >Eleanor > > > >

Hello Kay - | Ash Grove Chruch is located on Rt. 61 and these are two different | cemeteries. [Pleasant Hill Cemetery vs. Ash Grove Church Cemetery] Since they are two different cemeteries, then I do have a problem. Not with their location but with a burial. I've received several e-mails during the past week stating the burial place of Jesse TEATS (1814-1896). One says he is buried at Pleasant Hill Cemetery the other that he is buried at Ash Grove United Brethren Cemetery both citing the same secondary source. | Also, if you would like, I'll go to the cemetery, try to find the | tombstone of the person and take a photo of it for you since I live in the | local area. That's a very kind offer. I don't know that a photo is necessary, but knowing in which one of the two cemeteries Jesse TEATS is buried would set the record straight. I have a feeling that others who are following this thread would also like to know the answer. So if it's not raining and there are no tropical storms insight and you feel like a walk, it would be very much appreciated. And, yes I am familiar with 'MapQuest'. I also use DeLormes 'Street Atlas USA' in conjunction with GNIS at www.geonames.usgs.gov . With GNIS I can look up the coordinates of a feature such as a church or cemetery, plug them into Street Atlas USA to print out a map for a future visit. Unfortunately, GNIS doesn't list Pleasant Hill Cemetery. And neither one has any local knowledge. I'll be looking forward to your reply. Tom Gross | | Shamrock Mills is mid-way between Paxinos and Jacob's Church. If you found | the intersection of Shamrock Rd and Friendline Rd, Shamrock runs from the | Mill and where it intersects with Friedline, turn south and ends on Rt. 61 | where Ghezzies' resturant is located. If your not familiar where Ghezzies' | is, it come out on Rt 61 between the Ash Grove church and the road where | you turn to the Indian Hills Golf Club. I believe the area there is called | Mayfair. On MapQuest, Shamrock Road is LR49116. Are you familiar with | MapQuest? | | Ash Grove Chruch is located on Rt. 61 and these are two different | cemeteries. If you need more help in locating the exact location of the | church, let me know and I'll make a copy of a map and snail mail it to | you. Also, if you would like, I'll go to the cemetery, try to find the | tombstone of the person and take a photo of it for you since I live in the | local area.

Hi Tim, Shamrock Mills is mid-way between Paxinos and Jacob's Church. If you found the intersection of Shamrock Rd and Friendline Rd, Shamrock runs from the Mill and where it intersects with Friedline, turn south and ends on Rt. 61 where Ghezzies' resturant is located. If your not familiar where Ghezzies' is, it come out on Rt 61 between the Ash Grove church and the road where you turn to the Indian Hills Golf Club. I believe the area there is called Mayfair. On MapQuest, Shamrock Road is LR49116. Are you familiar with MapQuest? Ash Grove Chruch is located on Rt. 61 and these are two different cemeteries. If you need more help in locating the exact location of the church, let me know and I'll make a copy of a map and snail mail it to you. Also, if you would like, I'll go to the cemetery, try to find the tombstone of the person and take a photo of it for you since I live in the local area. Kay At 07:59 PM 8/16/2004, you wrote: >Hello Kay - > >Thanks for the reply, and yes, it was a help. But it also causes another >problem. Shamrock Feed Mill that I know of is about mid-way between Paxinos >and Jacob's or Reed's Church. Following your directions on a map I can >locate the intersection of Shamrock Rd. and Friedline Rd. > >Now my question: Is Pleasant Hill Cemetery and Ash Grove United Brethren >Cemetery one and the same cemetery? > >I was under the impression that Ash Grove Church is located along Rte. 61, >passed Masser's on the way to Sunbury. Perhaps the church and the cemetery >are at different locations. > >Tom Gross >Rocky Hill, CT > >| Pleasant Hill Cemetery is located on Shamrock Road. If you are familiar >| with the area and know where Shamrock Feed Mill is located, when you pass >| the Mill, you cross over a railroad crossing. If you bear to the right and >| follow the road about 2 or 2 1/2 miles, the cemetery is at the top of a >| small hill just before you reach the stop sign and the intersection of >| Shamrock, Short and Friedline Roads. >| >| Hope this helps, >| >| Kay >| >| >|

Hello Kay - Thanks for the reply, and yes, it was a help. But it also causes another problem. Shamrock Feed Mill that I know of is about mid-way between Paxinos and Jacob's or Reed's Church. Following your directions on a map I can locate the intersection of Shamrock Rd. and Friedline Rd. Now my question: Is Pleasant Hill Cemetery and Ash Grove United Brethren Cemetery one and the same cemetery? I was under the impression that Ash Grove Church is located along Rte. 61, passed Masser's on the way to Sunbury. Perhaps the church and the cemetery are at different locations. Tom Gross Rocky Hill, CT | Pleasant Hill Cemetery is located on Shamrock Road. If you are familiar | with the area and know where Shamrock Feed Mill is located, when you pass | the Mill, you cross over a railroad crossing. If you bear to the right and | follow the road about 2 or 2 1/2 miles, the cemetery is at the top of a | small hill just before you reach the stop sign and the intersection of | Shamrock, Short and Friedline Roads. | | Hope this helps, | | Kay | | |

Has anyone checked the status of men from Northumberland Co. going to NORTHAMPTON Co. to serve during the Rev War? We can't tell if we are chasing two George Smithers or one. I was told that a majority of the men living in Northumberland went to Northampton to serve. I have never heard of people leaving en masse from their own county to serve in another county. However, I know that ALL things are possible in genealogy. Has anyone ever heard of this? Does anyone have a Rev War soldier from Northumberland that served in Northampton? Thanks. Eleanor

Pleasant Hill Cemetery is located on Shamrock Road. If you are familiar with the area and know where Shamrock Feed Mill is located, when you pass the Mill, you cross over a railroad crossing. If you bear to the right and follow the road about 2 or 2 1/2 miles, the cemetery is at the top of a small hill just before you reach the stop sign and the intersection of Shamrock, Short and Friedline Roads. Hope this helps, Kay

Pardon me, I meant Pleasant Hill Cemetery! John

I'm not actually familiar with the Mt. Pleasant Cemetery; I was just going by the information provided in Meiser's cemetery book. John

Hello John - Many thanks for your reply to my TEATS family query. Another researcher sent the data on Hugh Teats and Nancy Runyon, but not the info on Jesse. It is much appreciated. You said that Pleasant Hill Cemetery was located at Deibler's Station. I know where Deibler's Station is. Can you pin point the cemetery more exactly? Tom Gross Rocky Hill CT | Also buried in the Pleasant Hill Cemetery at Deibler's Station, Shamokin Township is the following child: |

Hi, I'm not sure if anyone has replied to this yet, but here are the children of John and Martha Teats I found in Meiser's cemetery listings for Jacob's Cemetery at Reed's Station: 1. Hugh H. Teats (9.13.1801-9.19.1877) m. Nancy Runyon (6.1.1804-11.23.1866) 2. Sarah Teats (1803-12.2.1869) m. Henry Savidge Also buried in the Pleasant Hill Cemetery at Deibler's Station, Shamokin Township is the following child: 1. Jesse Teats (2.25.1814-10.27.1896) Hope this is helpful. John Deeben

Hi folks: Browsing today in a book here in NC and found the following - so far away from Sunbury that I thought I should post it. From the book "Sacred to Their Memory" by Lois Johnson Meekins & Amy Midgett Gamiel" the burial record as follows: Robert Thomas Derick 29 Oct 1927 - 30 Oct 1986 CPL US Army [Native of Sunbury, PA] This individual is buried in the Roanoke Island Memorial Gardens Cemetery, Manteo, Dare Co., N.C.

Wasn't someone out there looking for the BASTIAN family? Obituary 8/10/04 from Michigan www.annarbornews.com for a Madelyn Clarissa Bastian, age 94, Ypsilanti, MI. Stark Funeral Service. Ann Researching in PA: WENNER and DAVIS

John Teats/Tiets and his wife, Martha, were pioneer settlers in Rush and Shamokin Townships, Northumberland Co. as early as 1820. Martha died in 1850 and John in 1865 and both are buried in Jacob's or Reed's Church Cemetery at Paxinos. Question: Does anyone know the names of their children and the ancestry of John and Martha.? Thanks for reading this, I look forward to your replies. Tom G.

In a message dated 8/6/04 9:49:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, murphy13@rochester.rr.com writes: > I can't remember the exact name of the paper back in the 1930's, but it may > have been something like the Milton Evening Standard. I know the library > has the newspapers on microfilm. thanks to all of you! Ann

Hi, Ann. Here's a link to the Milton Standard-Journal, today's local paper: http://www.standard-journal.com/ I can't remember the exact name of the paper back in the 1930's, but it may have been something like the Milton Evening Standard. I know the library has the newspapers on microfilm. Hope this helps. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: <AGarvin224@aol.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 9:14 PM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] Milton, PA > Does anyone know if Milton has a local paper today; what paper(s) they might > have had in the 1930s; and any contact information? Looking for grandfather > and grandmother's obit; both buried in Milton. > Thanks, > Ann from MI > researching in PA: WENNER and DAVIS >

The Milton Public library might be able to help you. They have a website. Meta -----Original Message----- From: AGarvin224@aol.com [mailto:AGarvin224@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 9:14 PM To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PANORTHU-L] Milton, PA Does anyone know if Milton has a local paper today; what paper(s) they might have had in the 1930s; and any contact information? Looking for grandfather and grandmother's obit; both buried in Milton. Thanks, Ann from MI researching in PA: WENNER and DAVIS

Does anyone know if Milton has a local paper today; what paper(s) they might have had in the 1930s; and any contact information? Looking for grandfather and grandmother's obit; both buried in Milton. Thanks, Ann from MI researching in PA: WENNER and DAVIS

I am so sorry for your loss, you are in my thoughts and my prayers... Toni >From: DONNAKROPP@aol.com >Reply-To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com >To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] my husband's passing >Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 11:02:29 EDT > > >In a message dated 08-05-04 10:18:35 AM, rjfranke@worldnet.att.net writes: > ><< My husband and I were in a terrible car crash on Monday morning. He did >not > >survive. My injuries, though painful, are minor, and I will survive. I am > >going to unsubscribe shortly, as I have got to cut down on my number of > >incoming msgs. Thanks to all who have written to me and helped me in the > >past. When things settle down, I will subscribe again. > > >Joyce Franke >> > > >Joyce, > >I am so sorry to learn of your terrible accident and loss. I wish I could >reach out and hug you. Please know that you will be in my thoughts and in >my >prayers. > >Donna >