Bill, I am transferring my response from the Northumberland Co. ListServ to the GEISE ListServ because I feel our discussion has become too specific to continue posting on the Northumberland Co. ListServ. I am descended from immigrant George Adam GEISS as follows: George Adam GEISS (1725-1784) Heinrich Adam GEISE b. 1764 Samuel GEISE (1792-1876) Henry GEISE (1818-1900) Samuel Brouse GEISE (1848-1907) Dora Edna GEISE (1879-1939) William Raymond SULOUFF (1903-1993) Nelson Raymond SULOUFF (1929- ) You ask for the names I have for children of my immigrant GEISS. Since I cannot send an attachment to you via the ListServ, I will send you a personal message with an attached Word file containing the first three generations of his descendants as held in my records. Nelson R. Sulouff Retired in AZ //////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: dietrichpa To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] SAMUEL EDWIN GEISE (1911-1938) Hi, well, I see we are cousins several times over, through the Bowmans, as well as John Phillip Klinger and Eve Elizabeth!!! their son Peter 1773-1858 and Catherine Stienbreaker 1774-1845, their son John Peter 1796-1879 and catherine Weist 1799-1863.!!!! have lots of info on all of these, just trying to prove the Geiss,s. Do you have all of George Adam Geiss,s children and who they narried??/ I have some, but was given to me, I don,t think right??/ Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson R. Sulouff" <zuli@sprintmail.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] SAMUEL EDWIN GEISE (1911-1938) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dietrichpa > To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 4:26 AM > Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] SAMUEL EDWIN GEISE (1911-1938) > > Hi, George Adam Geiss,s father was henry!! > > The immigrant, George Adam GEISS (1725-1784), was born to Heinrich Adam and Anna Catharina GEISS of Freisbach, Saarland, Germany. Family tradition holds they were French Protestants who fled eastward into the German Palatinate to escape religious persecution in France. They followed the Lutheran rather than the Reformed interpretations and practices. > > I am trying toconnect him to my Dietrichs. > > I do not have the Dietrich surname in my files and am unable to help you with a Dietrich connection. > > I either tie into George Adam OR Phillip. reasons to believe, are > the Keiss, that are in Klingers church, here. the Geiss,s also married in to > the klingers, > > Among KLINGER-GEISS marriages I have sister and brother marrying brother and sister as follows: > > Alexander KLINGER b. 6/23/1726 Pfaffen-Beerfurth, Odenwald, Germany, d. 4/25/1802 Reading, Pa., married 2/14/1748 in Reichelsheim, Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany to Anna Elizabeth GEISS b. 10/30/1727 Gross-Gumpen, Germany. Both are buried at Trinity Lutheran, Reading, Pa. > > and > > Anna Barbara KLINGER b. 1/5/1729 Reichelsheim, Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany, married 2/27/1748 Hesse Darmstadt to Johannes GEISS b. 1724 (no children on record for this couple) > > I descend from a brother of Alexander and Anna Barbara KLINGER, Johann Philipp Klinger (1723-1811), by his second wife, Eva Elizabeth Beilstein (1730-about 1815). They are my 5th great grandparents. Johann Philipp was born in Pfaffen-Beerfurth, Odenwald, Germany. Eva Elizabeth was born in Brandau, Germany. They both died in Lykens Twp., Dauphin Co. and are buried in Klinger's Church Cemetery at Erdman, Dauphin Co. Pa. > > so trying to unravel. Leonard Dietrich, the immigrant, also > lived in Bern Twp. Berks co. moved up here in 1786. their children, baptised > at Klingers. one of thioer children was named phillip. there was a John Adam > Swartz, wife Rosina, who had many children baptised there, and had my > Dietrichs and geiss,s as sponsors. I think Leonards son John, my line was > married to a Barbara Geiss ( spelled Keiss, back then) she also had a sister > anna Maria, and Elizabeth who married George Peter trountman/ also a brother > John and Henry, at Klingers church as well!! sound familiar??? Samuel geiss, > married my Hannah Bowman as well, !!! any thoughts??? Bill > > Samuel GEISS and Hannah BOWMAN are my 3rd great grandparents. Samuel was born 4/15/1792 in Berks Co. to Heinrich Adam GEISS and died 9/24/1876 in Kratzerville, Snyder Co. Hannah was born 3/26/1793 in Berks Co. to Jacob Bauman and Susanna Bruck, and she died in Monroe Twp., Snyder Co. Both are buried in the Kratzerville Cemetery. > > Hope this helps. > > Nelson R. Sulouff

Hello Merle, The correct spelling is Mahantango. It is the name of a creek system that flows along the northern side of Mahantango Mountain, beginning in Schuylkill Co. east of Klingerstown and flowing generally west-southwestward to form the line between Dauphin & Northumberland Counties, finally emptying into the Susquehanna R. near Millerstown. The Pennsylvania Line, 4th ed. (1990) shows there is today an Upper Mahantango Township in Schuylkill Co., formed in 1811. A USGS GNIS map search for Mahantango as a "populated place" shows there is a very small village by that name on the west side of the Susquehanna R., about 6 miles north of Liverpool, at the intersection of Old Trail Road and St. Paul Road. I think that would put it in Susquehanna Twp., Juniata Co. rather than in Liverpool Twp., Perry Co. Nelson R. Sulouff ////////////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: ORGANIZR01@aol.com To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 5:44 PM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] Mohantango Twp and Stroup family I am trying to trace the Stroup family which lived in both Philadelphia and Mohantango Twp. in Northumberland Co. I find this twp. in the 1790 to 1810 censuses, but not later censuses on ancestry.com. Can someone tell me if this twp. is simply not listed on ancestry or if this twp. was incorporated or whatever? Help! Also, if anyone connects to the Stroup family, please contact me off the list. Thanks in advance. Merle

Try looking in Penn Township, Snyder Co., PA. Elida of South Carolina P.S. My email address has been changed from the AOL server to: purrysburg@islc.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <ORGANIZR01@aol.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:44 PM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] Mohantango Twp and Stroup family > I am trying to trace the Stroup family which lived in both Philadelphia and > Mohantango Twp. in Northumberland Co. I find this twp. in the 1790 to 1810 > censuses, but not later censuses on ancestry.com. Can someone tell me if this > twp. is simply not listed on ancestry or if this twp. was incorporated or > whatever? Help! > > Also, if anyone connects to the Stroup family, please contact me off the > list. > > Thanks in advance. > Merle >

Hi yes there was a Mahantango twp. later upper and lowed!! There were and still are Straubs?stroups stillliving there, who are you looking for??? maybe I can help, as I have ll those records, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <ORGANIZR01@aol.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:44 PM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] Mohantango Twp and Stroup family > I am trying to trace the Stroup family which lived in both Philadelphia and > Mohantango Twp. in Northumberland Co. I find this twp. in the 1790 to 1810 > censuses, but not later censuses on ancestry.com. Can someone tell me if this > twp. is simply not listed on ancestry or if this twp. was incorporated or > whatever? Help! > > Also, if anyone connects to the Stroup family, please contact me off the > list. > > Thanks in advance. > Merle >

Hi, well, I see we are cousins several times over, through the Bowmans, as well as John Phillip Klinger and Eve Elizabeth!!! their son Peter 1773-1858 and Catherine Stienbreaker 1774-1845, their son John Peter 1796-1879 and catherine Weist 1799-1863.!!!! have lots of info on all of these, just trying to prove the Geiss,s. Do you have all of George Adam Geiss,s children and who they narried??/ I have some, but was given to me, I don,t think right??/ Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson R. Sulouff" <zuli@sprintmail.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] SAMUEL EDWIN GEISE (1911-1938) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dietrichpa > To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 4:26 AM > Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] SAMUEL EDWIN GEISE (1911-1938) > > > Hi, George Adam Geiss,s father was henry!! > > The immigrant, George Adam GEISS (1725-1784), was born to Heinrich Adam and Anna Catharina GEISS of Freisbach, Saarland, Germany. Family tradition holds they were French Protestants who fled eastward into the German Palatinate to escape religious persecution in France. They followed the Lutheran rather than the Reformed interpretations and practices. > > I am trying toconnect him to my Dietrichs. > > I do not have the Dietrich surname in my files and am unable to help you with a Dietrich connection. > > I either tie into George Adam OR Phillip. reasons to believe, are > the Keiss, that are in Klingers church, here. the Geiss,s also married in to > the klingers, > > Among KLINGER-GEISS marriages I have sister and brother marrying brother and sister as follows: > > Alexander KLINGER b. 6/23/1726 Pfaffen-Beerfurth, Odenwald, Germany, d. 4/25/1802 Reading, Pa., married 2/14/1748 in Reichelsheim, Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany to Anna Elizabeth GEISS b. 10/30/1727 Gross-Gumpen, Germany. Both are buried at Trinity Lutheran, Reading, Pa. > > and > > Anna Barbara KLINGER b. 1/5/1729 Reichelsheim, Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany, married 2/27/1748 Hesse Darmstadt to Johannes GEISS b. 1724 (no children on record for this couple) > > I descend from a brother of Alexander and Anna Barbara KLINGER, Johann Philipp Klinger (1723-1811), by his second wife, Eva Elizabeth Beilstein (1730-about 1815). They are my 5th great grandparents. Johann Philipp was born in Pfaffen-Beerfurth, Odenwald, Germany. Eva Elizabeth was born in Brandau, Germany. They both died in Lykens Twp., Dauphin Co. and are buried in Klinger's Church Cemetery at Erdman, Dauphin Co. Pa. > > so trying to unravel. Leonard Dietrich, the immigrant, also > lived in Bern Twp. Berks co. moved up here in 1786. their children, baptised > at Klingers. one of thioer children was named phillip. there was a John Adam > Swartz, wife Rosina, who had many children baptised there, and had my > Dietrichs and geiss,s as sponsors. I think Leonards son John, my line was > married to a Barbara Geiss ( spelled Keiss, back then) she also had a sister > anna Maria, and Elizabeth who married George Peter trountman/ also a brother > John and Henry, at Klingers church as well!! sound familiar??? Samuel geiss, > married my Hannah Bowman as well, !!! any thoughts??? Bill > > Samuel GEISS and Hannah BOWMAN are my 3rd great grandparents. Samuel was born 4/15/1792 in Berks Co. to Heinrich Adam GEISS and died 9/24/1876 in Kratzerville, Snyder Co. Hannah was born 3/26/1793 in Berks Co. to Jacob Bauman and Susanna Bruck, and she died in Monroe Twp., Snyder Co. Both are buried in the Kratzerville Cemetery. > > Hope this helps. > > Nelson R. Sulouff > >

I am trying to trace the Stroup family which lived in both Philadelphia and Mohantango Twp. in Northumberland Co. I find this twp. in the 1790 to 1810 censuses, but not later censuses on ancestry.com. Can someone tell me if this twp. is simply not listed on ancestry or if this twp. was incorporated or whatever? Help! Also, if anyone connects to the Stroup family, please contact me off the list. Thanks in advance. Merle

Hi Bill Thank you I have who I think is a Mary Ann BOWMAN born Oct 7 1833 to who I have no idea she lives in Sunbury with Rev J P Shindel Family in 1850 near Ebenezer BASTIAN who I beleive becomes his wife before 1860. A direct grand parent. Do you have any matching data? -- I also have this women would you know why her middle name was given to me as TROUTMAN do you have a matching person in your data you could please share ? EMMA TROUTMAN SNYDER daughter of (JOHN1) was born June 1866. She married JOHN A LONG Abt. 1888, son of TOBIAS LONG and ELIZABETH. He was born July 1863. Children of EMMA SNYDER and JOHN LONG are: 3. i. WILLIAM TOBIAS3 LONG, b. October 1887, PA USA. 4. ii. JOHN OSCAR LONG, b. July 1889. iii. VESTA LONG, b. December 1890. iv. SOFFIE LONG, b. August 1894. v. EVELINE LONG, b. September 1895. vi. HARRY LONG, b. April 1900; d. Abt. 1971; m. DOROTHY LEITZEL. vii. EMMA LONG, b. Abt. 1903. Wow that is indeed interesting now why would John DIETRICH been renounced? Do you have any clues? He did have another child to his wife Barbara DACKS after 1811 Hanna Deitrich. Why does Barbara DACKS go by the name GEISS? I have this John and Barbara in the wrong family according to you rresesrach I have him in Leonard and Catherine DEITRICH family. I don't know if I can get this straighten out ? I hope you are having a great day. Jeanie > Hi, that Barabra dacks, was the daughter of Bernard dacks and wife > magdelena. I found an articical, at reading, where in 1811, bernard dacks > wife Magdelena renounced to her son in law, John Dietrich JR!!!! he wa the > son of John Dietrich and Barbara Geiss Dietrich!!!! Caroline Schwalm , had > that wrong, but that paper I found , proves , what I,m saying. hope this > helps, Bill ---- Hi, George Adam Geiss,s father was henry!! I am trying toconnect him to my Dietrichs. I either tie into George Adam OR Phillip. reasons to believe, are the Keiss, that are in Klingers church, here. the Geiss,s also married in to the klingers, so trying to unravel. Leonard Dietrich, the immigrant, also lived in Bern Twp. Berks co. moved up here in 1786. their children, baptised at Klingers. one of thioer children was named phillip. there was a John Adam Swartz, wife Rosina, who had many children baptised there, and had my Dietrichs and geiss,s as sponsors. I think Leonards son John, my line was married to a Barbara Geiss ( spelled Keiss, back then) she also had a sister anna Maria, and Elizabeth who married George Peter trountman/ also a brother John and Henry, at Klingers church as well!! sound familiar??? Samuel geiss, married my Hannah Bowman as well, !!! any thoughts??? Bill >

Hi Thank you for Hanna DIETERICH and Adam SYNDER I have a John SNYDER 1825 married to a Susanna 1827 Do you have any matching data you could please share? I am trying to find the family or ancestors of these people. Descendants of John SNYDER Generation No. 1 1. JOHN1 SNYDER was born Abt. 1825 in PA USA. He married SUSANNAH. She was born Abt. 1827 in PA USA. Notes for JOHN SNYDER: June 23 1860 Upper Mahonoy Farmer 2,000. Estate/362. personal estate All born in PA John 38 Susanna 36 Sarah 12 Edward 11 Mary 10 Rudolf 9 Lizzie 6 Susanna 2 Ellis 5 months -------- 1880 same place John 55 Farmer Susanah 53 Rodolph 26 Huckster Sevilla 18 Emma 14 John 12 Vesta 10 Children of JOHN SNYDER and SUSANNAH are: i. SARAH2 SNYDER, b. Abt. 1848. ii. EDWARD SNYDER, b. Abt. 1849. iii. MARY SNYDER, b. Abt. 1850. iv. RUDOLPH SNYDER, b. Abt. 1851. v. LIZZIE SNYDER, b. Abt. 1854. vi. SUSANNAH SNYDER, b. Abt. 1858. vii. ELIAS SNYDER, b. Abt. 1860. viii. SEVILLA SNYDER, b. Abt. 1862. 2. ix. EMMA TROUTMAN SNYDER, b. June 1866. x. JOHN SNYDER, b. Abt. 1868. xi. VESTA SNYDER, b. Abt. 1870. Generation No. 2 2. EMMA TROUTMAN2 SNYDER (JOHN1) was born June 1866. She married JOHN A LONG Abt. 1888, son of TOBIAS LONG and ELIZABETH. He was born July 1863. Notes for EMMA TROUTMAN SNYDER: One child died before 1900 She died in 1915 or 1916? More About EMMA TROUTMAN SNYDER: Burial: River Side Notes for JOHN A LONG: June 19 1900 Lower Mahoney TWP Northumberland CO PA T623 1449 251 John is a Carpenter has a Mortgage on a house. He is born in PA so are his folks and all his family living with him. Children of EMMA SNYDER and JOHN LONG are: 3. i. WILLIAM TOBIAS3 LONG, b. October 1887, PA USA. 4. ii. JOHN OSCAR LONG, b. July 1889. iii. VESTA LONG, b. December 1890. iv. SOFFIE LONG, b. August 1894. Notes for SOFFIE LONG: She is not with family in 1910 v. EVELINE LONG, b. September 1895. vi. HARRY LONG, b. April 1900; d. Abt. 1971; m. DOROTHY LEITZEL. More About HARRY LONG: Burial: Sunbury Northumberland CO PA vii. EMMA LONG, b. Abt. 1903.

Martha (Mattie) Wilson married James Riddle(Riddell) about 1824 in Northumberland Co. PA. They had children Robert, Matha, Mary Elizabeth, Samuel Wilson, Margaret and Charles. Martha Wilson Riddle was born about 1797 she died 1 Sep 1876 and is buried in Milton Her mother Mary Wilson was born about 1780-1785 and died after the 1860 census. (the 1850 census says 1785, but that would be pretty impossible because of her daughters birth about 1797) Searching for the husband of Mary Wilson. Since one of Mary's grandsons was named Samuel Wilson Riddle, that is the only lead I have. Can't find where Mary Wilson is buried either. Thanks janet welty

Purrysburg2@aol.com wrote: > For Jeanne Stout: > > Hanna DIETERICH, born 1813, married Adam SNYDER. They had a daughter, > Barabara born 1838, who was my maternal greatgrandmother. > > You should be able to find information about Hanna's father in the online > editions of the Northumberland County history books. Where can one find these books online? TIA Jon Gearhart

----- Original Message ----- From: dietrichpa To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] SAMUEL EDWIN GEISE (1911-1938) Hi, George Adam Geiss,s father was henry!! The immigrant, George Adam GEISS (1725-1784), was born to Heinrich Adam and Anna Catharina GEISS of Freisbach, Saarland, Germany. Family tradition holds they were French Protestants who fled eastward into the German Palatinate to escape religious persecution in France. They followed the Lutheran rather than the Reformed interpretations and practices. I am trying toconnect him to my Dietrichs. I do not have the Dietrich surname in my files and am unable to help you with a Dietrich connection. I either tie into George Adam OR Phillip. reasons to believe, are the Keiss, that are in Klingers church, here. the Geiss,s also married in to the klingers, Among KLINGER-GEISS marriages I have sister and brother marrying brother and sister as follows: Alexander KLINGER b. 6/23/1726 Pfaffen-Beerfurth, Odenwald, Germany, d. 4/25/1802 Reading, Pa., married 2/14/1748 in Reichelsheim, Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany to Anna Elizabeth GEISS b. 10/30/1727 Gross-Gumpen, Germany. Both are buried at Trinity Lutheran, Reading, Pa. and Anna Barbara KLINGER b. 1/5/1729 Reichelsheim, Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany, married 2/27/1748 Hesse Darmstadt to Johannes GEISS b. 1724 (no children on record for this couple) I descend from a brother of Alexander and Anna Barbara KLINGER, Johann Philipp Klinger (1723-1811), by his second wife, Eva Elizabeth Beilstein (1730-about 1815). They are my 5th great grandparents. Johann Philipp was born in Pfaffen-Beerfurth, Odenwald, Germany. Eva Elizabeth was born in Brandau, Germany. They both died in Lykens Twp., Dauphin Co. and are buried in Klinger's Church Cemetery at Erdman, Dauphin Co. Pa. so trying to unravel. Leonard Dietrich, the immigrant, also lived in Bern Twp. Berks co. moved up here in 1786. their children, baptised at Klingers. one of thioer children was named phillip. there was a John Adam Swartz, wife Rosina, who had many children baptised there, and had my Dietrichs and geiss,s as sponsors. I think Leonards son John, my line was married to a Barbara Geiss ( spelled Keiss, back then) she also had a sister anna Maria, and Elizabeth who married George Peter trountman/ also a brother John and Henry, at Klingers church as well!! sound familiar??? Samuel geiss, married my Hannah Bowman as well, !!! any thoughts??? Bill Samuel GEISS and Hannah BOWMAN are my 3rd great grandparents. Samuel was born 4/15/1792 in Berks Co. to Heinrich Adam GEISS and died 9/24/1876 in Kratzerville, Snyder Co. Hannah was born 3/26/1793 in Berks Co. to Jacob Bauman and Susanna Bruck, and she died in Monroe Twp., Snyder Co. Both are buried in the Kratzerville Cemetery. Hope this helps. Nelson R. Sulouff

Hi, George Adam Geiss,s father was henry!! I am trying toconnect him to my Dietrichs. I either tie into George Adam OR Phillip. reasons to believe, are the Keiss, that are in Klingers church, here. the Geiss,s also married in to the klingers, so trying to unravel. Leonard Dietrich, the immigrant, also lived in Bern Twp. Berks co. moved up here in 1786. their children, baptised at Klingers. one of thioer children was named phillip. there was a John Adam Swartz, wife Rosina, who had many children baptised there, and had my Dietrichs and geiss,s as sponsors. I think Leonards son John, my line was married to a Barbara Geiss ( spelled Keiss, back then) she also had a sister anna Maria, and Elizabeth who married George Peter trountman/ also a brother John and Henry, at Klingers church as well!! sound familiar??? Samuel geiss, married my Hannah Bowman as well, !!! any thoughts??? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson R. Sulouff" <zuli@sprintmail.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] SAMUEL EDWIN GEISE (1911-1938) > Bill, > > My paternal grandmother was a GEISE. Her immigrant ancestor was George Adam GEISS (1725-1784) who arrived on the PEGGY 9/24/1753. He lived out his live in Berks Co. PA. I have a little on his parentage and I have 507 descendants and 256 spouses of descendants for him. > > I also have a very little information on Adam's brother, Phillip Jacob GEISS who arrived in America 9/25/1751. He moved from Berks Co. to Centre Co. PA, where he died and presumably is buried. > > Can you trace your ancestry back to either of these two brothers? > > Nelson R. Sulouff > > /////////////////////////////////////////// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dietrichpa > To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 12:30 PM > Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] SAMUEL EDWIN GEISE (1911-1938) > > > Hi, are you tied into the Geiss family!!! know a bit about them wanting more > info as well as connections!! interested??? Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nelson R. Sulouff" <zuli@sprintmail.com> > To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 1:08 AM > Subject: [PANORTHU-L] SAMUEL EDWIN GEISE (1911-1938) > > > > Hello Northumberland Co. Listers, > > > > I need a copy of obituary or news article for the death of Samuel Edwin > Geise born 4 October 1911 and died 15 August 1938, both in Point Twp., > Northumberland Co. His parents were William and Mallie Geise of Point Twp. > > > > In addition to the regular report in the obituary column, his death would > probably have been reported in the Northumberland Section of a Sunbury > newspaper.The Sunbury Daily and the Sunbury Item were the two papers > published in Sunbury. They merged into the Sunbury Daily Item around that > time, but I do not know whether they merged before or after 1938. > > > > Can someone on the ListServ tell me how to obtain a copy of the 8/15/1938 > obituary, the news report of his death, or both, either by using Internet > research or by E-mail? > > > > Of course if a Lister would be able to do a lookup and send it to me, I > would be eternally grateful. > > > > Nelson R. Sulouff > > Born and raised in Northumberland Co. > > Retired in Oro Valley AZ > > zuli@sprintmail.com > > > > > > > >

For Jeanne Stout: Hanna DIETERICH, born 1813, married Adam SNYDER. They had a daughter, Barabara born 1838, who was my maternal greatgrandmother. You should be able to find information about Hanna's father in the online editions of the Northumberland County history books.

I have an ancestores I would love more data on if any one has any they would please like to share. Any thing wrong please correct me. Barbara Dachs GEISE born about 1764-1824 wife of Johannes "John" DIETRICH 1764-1844 Schuylkill CO PA 7 children Eva Elizabeth 1790 John JR 1789 Andrew 1791 George 1792 Philip 1795 My linage through him.to Lydia his daughter. Leonard 1799 Hanna 1813 ------------- Anna Elizabeth GEISE born Oct 30 1727 in Phoffenbeerfurth, Oldenwald Palatinate Germany She married Alexander KLINGER on the date of February 14, 1746/47 --- I have the name George Adam GEIS his children Hendrick and Christiana Wife and mother was Anna Barbara Haak/Haag wedding date May 15, 1758 Jeanie

Jeanie, According to the pastoral acts record book of Rev. John Caspar Stoever, the immigrant George Adam GEISS (= GEIß in German) married Anna Barbara HAAG 5/15/1758 in Bern Twp., Berks Co. PA. The names of the two children you mention are evidently their fifth child, Heinrich Adam GEISS born 6/21/1764, and their seventh child, Christiana born 7/13/1768. Anna Elizabeth GEISS (GEIß) was born 10/30/1727 in Pfaffen-Beerfurth, Odenwald, Germany. She married Alexander KLINGER 2/14/1746/47 in Richelsheim, Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany. They arrived in Philadelphia on 9/2/1749 aboard the ship named ALBANY. I have been advised by other researchers that in 1753 and in 1761, Alexander is shown on tax lists in Reading PA and, that in 1767 he is called an "Innkeeper" in the same city, and an owner of two homes. In 1780 he moved westward on the Tulpehocken Trail to Upper Mahantango Twp. (then in Berks Co. and after 1811 in Schuylkill Co.). The land he purchased there is now partially occupied by the village of Klingerstown. The village, founded in 1807, had many lots laid out by Alexander's son(s) and was named Klingerstown after Alexander. Later, Alexander and his wife returned to live in Reading, where they died and are buried. I have nothing on your "Barbara Dachs GEISE" in my records. I would recommend you state your interest and questions about her in a posting on the "GEISS and GEISE" ListServ. You may subscribe using the single word 'subscribe' in the text box of an E-mail message addressed to: GEISE-L-request@Rootsweb.com. Rev. Nelson R. Sulouff Admin for SULOUFF & SULOFF ListServs and Boards- SULOUFF-Admin@RootsWeb.com Admin for NOETLING ListServ and Boards- NOETLING-Admin@RootsWeb.com Admin for GEISS and GEISE ListServs and Boards- GEISE-Admin@RootsWeb.com Admin for KRIGBAUM ListServ and Boards- KRIGBAUM-Admin@RootsWeb.com Admin for EISTER ListServ and Boards- EISTER-Admin@RootsWeb.com Admin for AZ-SCVGS ListServ and Boards- AZ-SCVGS-Admin@RootsWeb.com Publications: "Johannes Zulauf, Soldier-Immigrant, Father of Sulouffs and Suloffs In America," (Parts I and II), published by JOURNAL OF THE JOHANNES SCHWALM HISTORICAL ASSN.; Vol 5, No. 4 (1996) and Vol. 6, No. 1 (1997) A SULOUFF AND SULOFF FAMILY HISTORY (801 pp., 174 graphics, over 3350 indexed names, 680 source footnotes). Copyrighted 2001-2003, Library of Congress call number CS71.Z8662001 Website for earliest history of the SULOUFF family: http://www.apexsystems.net/users/Nelson/ My unfinished Ahnentafel to about 1500, mostly Germans and SE Pennsylvanians: http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/pa/northumberland/xmisc/nels0001.txt /////////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeanie Stout To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] 3 GEISE's I have an ancestores I would love more data on if any one has any they would please like to share. Any thing wrong please correct me. Barbara Dachs GEISE born about 1764-1824 wife of Johannes "John" DIETRICH 1764-1844 Schuylkill CO PA 7 children Eva Elizabeth 1790 John JR 1789 Andrew 1791 George 1792 Philip 1795 My linage through him.to Lydia his daughter. Leonard 1799 Hanna 1813 ------------- Anna Elizabeth GEISE born Oct 30 1727 in Phoffenbeerfurth, Oldenwald Palatinate Germany She married Alexander KLINGER on the date of February 14, 1746/47 --- I have the name George Adam GEIS his children Hendrick and Christiana Wife and mother was Anna Barbara Haak/Haag wedding date May 15, 1758 Jeanie

Hi, are you tied into the Geiss family!!! know a bit about them wanting more info as well as connections!! interested??? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson R. Sulouff" <zuli@sprintmail.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 1:08 AM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] SAMUEL EDWIN GEISE (1911-1938) > Hello Northumberland Co. Listers, > > I need a copy of obituary or news article for the death of Samuel Edwin Geise born 4 October 1911 and died 15 August 1938, both in Point Twp., Northumberland Co. His parents were William and Mallie Geise of Point Twp. > > In addition to the regular report in the obituary column, his death would probably have been reported in the Northumberland Section of a Sunbury newspaper.The Sunbury Daily and the Sunbury Item were the two papers published in Sunbury. They merged into the Sunbury Daily Item around that time, but I do not know whether they merged before or after 1938. > > Can someone on the ListServ tell me how to obtain a copy of the 8/15/1938 obituary, the news report of his death, or both, either by using Internet research or by E-mail? > > Of course if a Lister would be able to do a lookup and send it to me, I would be eternally grateful. > > Nelson R. Sulouff > Born and raised in Northumberland Co. > Retired in Oro Valley AZ > zuli@sprintmail.com > >

Bill, My paternal grandmother was a GEISE. Her immigrant ancestor was George Adam GEISS (1725-1784) who arrived on the PEGGY 9/24/1753. He lived out his live in Berks Co. PA. I have a little on his parentage and I have 507 descendants and 256 spouses of descendants for him. I also have a very little information on Adam's brother, Phillip Jacob GEISS who arrived in America 9/25/1751. He moved from Berks Co. to Centre Co. PA, where he died and presumably is buried. Can you trace your ancestry back to either of these two brothers? Nelson R. Sulouff /////////////////////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: dietrichpa To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] SAMUEL EDWIN GEISE (1911-1938) Hi, are you tied into the Geiss family!!! know a bit about them wanting more info as well as connections!! interested??? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson R. Sulouff" <zuli@sprintmail.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 1:08 AM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] SAMUEL EDWIN GEISE (1911-1938) > Hello Northumberland Co. Listers, > > I need a copy of obituary or news article for the death of Samuel Edwin Geise born 4 October 1911 and died 15 August 1938, both in Point Twp., Northumberland Co. His parents were William and Mallie Geise of Point Twp. > > In addition to the regular report in the obituary column, his death would probably have been reported in the Northumberland Section of a Sunbury newspaper.The Sunbury Daily and the Sunbury Item were the two papers published in Sunbury. They merged into the Sunbury Daily Item around that time, but I do not know whether they merged before or after 1938. > > Can someone on the ListServ tell me how to obtain a copy of the 8/15/1938 obituary, the news report of his death, or both, either by using Internet research or by E-mail? > > Of course if a Lister would be able to do a lookup and send it to me, I would be eternally grateful. > > Nelson R. Sulouff > Born and raised in Northumberland Co. > Retired in Oro Valley AZ > zuli@sprintmail.com > >

Hello I hope every one is well. I am seeking the maiden name and family of Mary B wife of Edwin/Eben BOSTIAN/BASTIAN Descendants of Ebenezer G BOSTIAN/BASTIAN Generation No. 1 1. EBENEZER G BOSTIAN (JESSE, GEORGE MICHAEL JR BOSTIAN/BASTIAN, was born February 06, 1829 in PA USA, and died November 15, 1914 in Sunbury, Northumberland CO PA. He married MARY B ?????? Aft. 1850 in Sunbury PA. She was born October 07, 1833 in PA, and died January 10, 1890 in Sunbury, Northumberland CO PA. Notes for EBENEZER G BOSTIAN: 1850 He is a shoemaker and lives with his father. Northumberland County Pennsylvania Burials", Volume I, 1988, page 4 (by Joseph A. Meiser, Jr., B.S., Ph.D. and Sarah Roadarmel Meiser), Eben G. BASTIAN is buried in the Penn's Cemetery, Spruce Street, Sunbury, Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania. Date of birth for Eben given as 2/6/1829; date of death 11/15/1914. His spouse, Mary A. ? shows birth date of 10/7/1770 and death date of 1/10/1890. Parents of Eben listed as "Jesse & Barbara" June 18 1860 census he is Edwin "indexed" GASTIAN age 35 in Sunbury 50. personal estate. Laborer M653 roll 1149 Page 615 Edwin 29 Mary B 25 Mary C 7 Alice 7 William 4 Edwin 2 1870 Eben BASTIAN he is 41 years old, lives at West Ward Sunbury PA. Mary is 35. children Mary C 17 , Alice 15, William 14 ,Eben 12 ,Barbara 10 ,Elizabeth 5, Geo. F. 2 month ,Kate 2 month he has 200. personal estate. 1880 he is Eben BASTIAN age 52, Mary is 47, lives at West Ward Sunbury Northumberland CO PA he is a RR Bagage Master children are, William 23 ,Eben 20 Harriet E 15 ,Jannie Beth 10, Charles F 10, Joseph 5. William Yoxtheimer age 56 lives with them. 1910 lives at 935 Railroad Ave, West Ward Northumberland CO Sunbury PA He is Eben E. Bostian Lives with or next door to his son William Bostian. HeriageQuest.com June 4 1900 Evenezer G BOSTIAN is a widow. Census Series T623 Roll 1450 Page 128 5th Ward Sunbury Northumberland CO PA 143-131 Packer Ave Ebenizer\Eben 1 Aug 1873 News From the Northumberland Democrat of Friday 1 Aug 1873, published in Sunbury: Trespass The other day Reed NEIDIG brought suit before Squire PURSEL against E. G. BOSTIAN, John GRONER, AND Henry KEENE, because the wives of these gentlemen had trespassed upon his grounds to pick berries. The Justice gave judgment in favor of NEIDIG for 50cts and the costs. On Thursday NEIDIG brought still another suit against BOSTIAN for threatening him with assault, but the affair was amicably settled before the Justice between the parties and the costs were divided. Notes for MARY B: 1880 census says her mom and dad are from PA I found in 1850 living in same neigbhor hood as BASTIAN home M432 Roll 804 page 211 Aug 15 1850 A Mary BOWMAN . She is 16 and living with the family of John P SHINDEL age 63 a Clergyman. PA born. His wife Susan( MCULLOUGH) or McCulloch age 61. His son a Physican Daniel H age 28. A son an Attorney Martin L Shindel. age 22. Melancthon Shindel age 20. --------- This large age difference in chidren seem odd. Also Susan would of been in her 50's when she had these two girls. Daughter Susan Shindel age 9. Daughter Sarah Shindel age 7. Mary BOWMAN age 16. More About MARY BOSTIAN/BASTIAN burial in cemetery WM Penn's ? Spruce Street Sunbury, Northumberland CO PA Children of EBENEZER BOSTIAN and MARY BOWMAN are: i. MARY C8 BOSTIAN, b. Abt. 1853; m. JOHN G MARKLE, February 17, 1869; b. Abt. 1833. ii. ALICE BOSTIAN, b. Abt. 1855. 2. iii. WILLIAM B BOSTIAN, b. Abt. July 02, 1856, Sunbury, Northumberland CO PA USA; d. January 28, 1923, Sunbury, Northumberland CO PA. iv. EBENEZER "EDWIN" G JR BOSTIAN, b. Abt. 1858. Notes for EBENEZER "EDWIN" G JR BOSTIAN: 1912 Sunbury City Directory there is an Evan Bastian on 138 Awl Street,Sunbury PA v. BARBARA BOSTIAN, b. Abt. 1860. vi. HARRIET ELIZABETH BOSTIAN, b. Abt. 1865. vii. GEORGE CHARLES F BOSTIAN, b. Abt. March 1870. viii. JANNIE BETH KATE BOSTIAN, b. Abt. March 1870. ix. JOSEPH B BOSTIAN, b. Abt. 1875, PA. In 1860 Eben BASTIAN boought 6 property lots off of Joseph CAKE. Joseph CAKE had just bought them in 1859.

Fellow List Members, I submitted a supplemental patriot ancestor application for the SAR regarding my 4th great-grandfather Hugh Hughes, who was married to Mary Hutton. Today I received notice the SAR HQ requires more documentation for proof my 3rd great-grandfather John Hughes is Hugh's son. I have a copy of a petition from the January 1817 term for the Northumberland County court relating to the heirs desire for the estate to be awarded. This petition lists John Hughes as a son and lawful heir of Hugh Hughes, one of his eleven children. The person who sent this copy to me made a notation of OC#6-118. Unfortunately, I neglected to put this data in with my application, and need to know for certain what book, etc. this information derives from. John Hughes married Elizabeth Dreibelbis (Trevlepiece, etc.) about 1820. They lived in Schuylkill County. It is the link from Hugh to John that I need. Is some kind soul going to be at the courthouse in the VERY near future who could look this (and anything else they can find) up? I am willing to pay for your time, copies, etc. Another mystery is the DAR Patriot index lists Hugh Hughes' date of death as 1838, as does a DAR record copy I obtained. However, the court petition as earlier stated is from 1817. Any ideas on this new mystery are welcome. PLEASE email me directly off-list if you can assist me and I can provide additional details. Thank you very much! Regards, Mike Johnston Oswego, IL

Mountain View cem. Laura Meisberger 8/17/1873-6/22/1925 married to Joseph Meunier 10/13/1884-2/12/1974. also an Irvin F. Meisberger 4/2/1904-4/6/1967 married to a Margaret wetzel born 1910 no death date, thse were children of George and Laura Fessler Meisberger. hope this helps, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen Souza" <eileen.souza@mindspring.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:58 PM Subject: RE: [PANORTHU-L] Cemetery Books > I was able to connect. I had a David T. Meisberger, b 1887 as the son of > Theobald. I had a Vera Meisberger as the daughter of a Theodore D. > Meisberger, born 1887 but just now made the connection. David T. became > Theodore D. or the other way around but they were the same person, following > in the tradition I have been seeing of everybody changing their names much > more casually than we do today. So I really thank you. If you had not > mentioned this I would never have made the connection. Also you provided me > more information than I had on Vera before. > > Eileen > > -----Original Message----- > From: dietrichpa [mailto:dietrichpa@adelphia.net] > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 6:00 AM > To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] Cemetery Books > > Hi, don,t have the catholic books BUT!! I did find a Vera meisberger, > daughter of Theodore and mamie Quinn Meisberger, married to a Herbert > harris, born 9/21/1914-3/26/1986. this Theodore must have been a > grandson??/ in Shhamokin cem. Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eileen Souza" <eileen.souza@mindspring.com> > To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 8:44 PM > Subject: RE: [PANORTHU-L] Cemetery Books > > > > Could you look up a Theobald MEISBERGER, Jr. b. 25 Dec 1837 d. 13 Jun 1900 > > in Ranshaw (or Coal Twp.)? Also Andreas (or Andrew) Gunther, b. 11 Feb > 1858 > > d. 04 Apr 1931 in Ranshaw. Any Meisbergers or Gunthers would be fine. > They > > all lived in the Ranshaw area but I don't know what cemetaries they were > > buried in. The cemetary would be Catholic, I'm sure. > > > > Eileen Souza > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: MazeskiRE@aol.com [mailto:MazeskiRE@aol.com] > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 8:25 PM > > To: PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] Cemetery Books > > > > In a message dated 12/17/2004 2:50:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > SMrcus@aol.com writes: > > As I recall the Northumberland Co cemetery books don't cover Catholic > > cemeteries such as St. Edwards in Shamokin. Am I right? > > > > Sue Marcus > > Joe Pensyl of the N.C.H.S. did the Catholic cemeteries in Shamokin. I have > > the books if you need a quick lookup. > > > > BobM > > > > > > > > >