Additionally, Northumberland Co. used to be much larger when it was first established. It has the nickname in PA of "The Mother of All Counties". Penn Twp. was originally in Northumberland Co. across the Susquehanna River, but it is in Snyder Co. now. Elida ----- Original Message ----- From: elida <purrysburg@islc.net> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] New to list--Where to begin > Also, > > I think there was a major flood of the Susquehanna River in the late > 1700's and many settlers had to move back inland. > > Also, Northumberland Co. was BIG on anthracite coal mining. Many of the > Welsh arrived in the late 1800's to work the mines. Some of them moved > to Philadelphia. > > Good luck, > Elida > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ORGANIZR01@aol.com> > To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:05 PM > Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] New to list--Where to begin > > > > Thanks for the information. > > >

Also, I think there was a major flood of the Susquehanna River in the late 1700's and many settlers had to move back inland. Also, Northumberland Co. was BIG on anthracite coal mining. Many of the Welsh arrived in the late 1800's to work the mines. Some of them moved to Philadelphia. Good luck, Elida ----- Original Message ----- From: <ORGANIZR01@aol.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [PANORTHU-L] New to list--Where to begin > Thanks for the information. >

Thanks for the information.

My great grandfather's occupation was listed as a miner in the 1880 census. Perhaps there was coal mining in that area. Carlene ----- Original Message ----- From: <ORGANIZR01@aol.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 10:05 PM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] New to list--Where to begin > Help! > > I am tracing the Straup/Stroup family in Philadelphia. Peter, a > Revolutionary > War vet, left Philly in 1781 and moved to Penn Twp., Northumberland > County, > yet in 1782 he buried a son in Philly. He moved back to Philly in 1790 and > was > buried there in 1793. > > I know nothing about Northumberland County. Can anyone give me an idea of > why > someone would have moved there during that time period? Mining? Lumber? > Anything? > > Also, does anyone know how to access Northumberland County records at > familysearch.org. I have tried Northumberland County, Pennsylvania and > Penn Township, > Pennsylvania. > > Finally, if anyone connects to this family, please contact me off the > list. > > Thanks very much. > > Merle > >

Also interesting. I wonder if that had anything to do with the son's death just a year after the move.

Thanks, Dan. It does help. It may have been just that--too formidable.

Help! I am tracing the Straup/Stroup family in Philadelphia. Peter, a Revolutionary War vet, left Philly in 1781 and moved to Penn Twp., Northumberland County, yet in 1782 he buried a son in Philly. He moved back to Philly in 1790 and was buried there in 1793. I know nothing about Northumberland County. Can anyone give me an idea of why someone would have moved there during that time period? Mining? Lumber? Anything? Also, does anyone know how to access Northumberland County records at familysearch.org. I have tried Northumberland County, Pennsylvania and Penn Township, Pennsylvania. Finally, if anyone connects to this family, please contact me off the list. Thanks very much. Merle

I also forgot to mention that it is quite rocky. The area is good land but it is littered with stones. Maybe that is why they called it Stone Valley? Dan ORGANIZR01@aol.com wrote: >Thanks, Dan. It does help. It may have been just that--too formidable. > > > > >

Northumberland co is more of a farming community today than it was in the 1780's. During the late 1700's it was still considered the frontier. Many people lived right across the river from native americans. Many traded with the indians. Growing up in the area you get a sense of rural life at its greatest. You must travel a great distance to go shopping for anything other than milk or bread. Lower Northumberland co which borders Dauphin Co must shop either in Shamokin/ Sunbury or Millersburg/ Elizabethville. Many of these early inhabitants found the area to formidable for their taste when many lived in the urban setting of Philly! Hope this helps. Dan ORGANIZR01@aol.com wrote: >Help! > >I am tracing the Straup/Stroup family in Philadelphia. Peter, a Revolutionary >War vet, left Philly in 1781 and moved to Penn Twp., Northumberland County, >yet in 1782 he buried a son in Philly. He moved back to Philly in 1790 and was >buried there in 1793. > >I know nothing about Northumberland County. Can anyone give me an idea of why >someone would have moved there during that time period? Mining? Lumber? >Anything? > >Also, does anyone know how to access Northumberland County records at >familysearch.org. I have tried Northumberland County, Pennsylvania and Penn Township, >Pennsylvania. > >Finally, if anyone connects to this family, please contact me off the list. > >Thanks very much. > >Merle > > > > >

Sue, Where die you find her father's name as Daniel? I had him as George William based upon "A Genealogists Guide to Burials in Northumberland County, PA, VOL III, page 6 by Meiser. Catherine and Henry were my GGG grandparents. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: <SMrcus@aol.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] Holshue, Holdshoe, Holzschuh > My Holshue connection is Catherine b. 1789 d/o Daniel. > She married Henry Swinehart in 1812. > > I believe Catherine Holshue had a sister, Susanna, who > married Michael Wagner. > > Sue Marcus > >

Thank you all for your response to my inquiry. I look forward especially to corresponding with you, Kay. Also find the maiden name of Sarah, wife of George Holshue is very very appreciated. The only documentation I have so far are the census and a few book items on Benneville. Also the Holshue's in the Civil War. Hope we can find more. Thank you all again Diane

My Holshue connection is Catherine b. 1789 d/o Daniel. She married Henry Swinehart in 1812. I believe Catherine Holshue had a sister, Susanna, who married Michael Wagner. Sue Marcus

Greetings list, I currently have the LDS microfilms for Huntingdon County Marriage License Dockets 1897-1901 Film # 900601. Below is a list of the couples I have found where one or both are from Northumberland. If you find a name of interest, please email me and I can email you a scan of the document or tell you what information it contains. This is offer ends Saturday 6/18/05 then the microfilm will go back to the LDS. After that date I will also be unsubscribing from this list, so please email me off list if you just want to information off the license after 6/18/05. aylayla@mac.com Groom - Bride - Date of marriage If a township if not listed, they are not from Northumberland Bilger, Charles F. of Shamoken - Whitsel, Laura - 11/18/1901 There was only 1 couple who had Northumberland Co noted as their place of residence Andrea

there were a few other Shook's in Mahanoy Jail! In 1880 I think it was. love toni http://community.webtv.net/olivemai/OLIVEMAI He insulted me, he hurt me, he defeated me, he robbed me. Those who think such things will not be free from hate. -Buddha

I would go with the NY birthplace as the census was more accurate as time went by. I checked and I would say that Celeste was indeed Sylvester....I checked for a Cele* Adams and there were some in NY in earlier censuses and also later censuses in NY, could be the namesake of the child......I even found a George Adams in NY...and a Rebecca Jane Adams........ love toni http://community.webtv.net/olivemai/OLIVEMAI He insulted me, he hurt me, he defeated me, he robbed me. Those who think such things will not be free from hate. -Buddha

Diane, I'm descended from that line. George Holshue and Sarah Cramer were my great-great-grandparents. I'm a work now and don't have any information with me. I'll look at home and see what I have and get back to you. Kay At 07:54 AM 5/20/2005, you wrote: >George Holshue and sarah Cramer, son Emanuel 9/15/1843-11/25/1901, wife Mary >E. martz 12/7/1855-1/26/1922 >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Itsgramaduck@aol.com> >To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:06 PM >Subject: [PANORTHU-L] Holshoe/Holshue family > > > > Is there anyone on this list who might be researching the Holshoe/Holshue > > family who lived in Coal Township & Trevorton & Shamokin, PA during the >1800's? > > I am researching these people and hope someone can help. The father was > > George Holshoe and his children are: Josiah Holshoe b. abt 1831, Joel >Holshoe b. > > abt.1836, Emanuel Holshoe b. abt 1843, Matilda (Holshoe) Rinard b. abt. >1828 > > & married to Jacob Rinard, Sarah (Holshoe) Reed b. abt. 1840 & married to >Ema > > nuel Reed, Caroline (Holshoe) Eisenhart b. abt. 1844 & married to Daniel > > Eisenhart and Ellen Holshoe b. abt. 1850. > > I am trying to find a connection with the Holshoe family and confirm that > > Christiann(a)(Holshoe???) Keiper b. abt 1825, is a sister to these >people. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Diane Tesene > > > >

George Holshue and sarah Cramer, son Emanuel 9/15/1843-11/25/1901, wife Mary E. martz 12/7/1855-1/26/1922 ----- Original Message ----- From: <Itsgramaduck@aol.com> To: <PANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:06 PM Subject: [PANORTHU-L] Holshoe/Holshue family > Is there anyone on this list who might be researching the Holshoe/Holshue > family who lived in Coal Township & Trevorton & Shamokin, PA during the 1800's? > I am researching these people and hope someone can help. The father was > George Holshoe and his children are: Josiah Holshoe b. abt 1831, Joel Holshoe b. > abt.1836, Emanuel Holshoe b. abt 1843, Matilda (Holshoe) Rinard b. abt. 1828 > & married to Jacob Rinard, Sarah (Holshoe) Reed b. abt. 1840 & married to Ema > nuel Reed, Caroline (Holshoe) Eisenhart b. abt. 1844 & married to Daniel > Eisenhart and Ellen Holshoe b. abt. 1850. > I am trying to find a connection with the Holshoe family and confirm that > Christiann(a)(Holshoe???) Keiper b. abt 1825, is a sister to these people. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Diane Tesene > >

Is there anyone on this list who might be researching the Holshoe/Holshue family who lived in Coal Township & Trevorton & Shamokin, PA during the 1800's? I am researching these people and hope someone can help. The father was George Holshoe and his children are: Josiah Holshoe b. abt 1831, Joel Holshoe b. abt.1836, Emanuel Holshoe b. abt 1843, Matilda (Holshoe) Rinard b. abt. 1828 & married to Jacob Rinard, Sarah (Holshoe) Reed b. abt. 1840 & married to Ema nuel Reed, Caroline (Holshoe) Eisenhart b. abt. 1844 & married to Daniel Eisenhart and Ellen Holshoe b. abt. 1850. I am trying to find a connection with the Holshoe family and confirm that Christiann(a)(Holshoe???) Keiper b. abt 1825, is a sister to these people. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Diane Tesene

I tried to send the census image from 1880. It says Joseph Shook,born in England, wife Maria, born in England, and one son named HArry born in England (16 in 1880) and about 5 daughters, born in PA living in Mahanoy. I also found harry schuck in 1910 census married with 6 children, wife says she had 13 but only 6 living...the oldest was 16. Joseph Schuck was living near him in 1910 still saying born in England...........these are the only Schuck's I find in Mahanoy at ancestry.....have you tried the family search yet? love toni http://community.webtv.net/olivemai/OLIVEMAI He insulted me, he hurt me, he defeated me, he robbed me. Those who think such things will not be free from hate. -Buddha

yes, mistakes like that were made! Nicknames were used and whatever the census taker heard was written down. Ages were off quite a bit. IT helps to know who answered the census when the call was made. love toni http://community.webtv.net/olivemai/OLIVEMAI He insulted me, he hurt me, he defeated me, he robbed me. Those who think such things will not be free from hate. -Buddha