Hello List... it has been a pleasure to read all of the excellent material that posts to this list. Thank you, everyone, and especially Geri Brennan, for all of the work you do to help us. I'm hoping someone can tell me where (what sources) I might find information about the births of John C. Brown b. 1847-1848 and Howard S. Brown b. July 1850. Both boys were born, probably in Williams Township, Northampton County, to Alfred H. Brown and Harriet O. Brown. The family (before the birth of these two sons) had immigrated from South Wales, leaving from Liverpool, England, on the ship Cornelia. Alfred H., Harriett, and sons James (age 7), Alfred T. (age 5), Frederick (age and Richard (4 months) made the trip. They arrived into the port of New York City on 23 Aug 1847 and had settled in Williams Township in time for the 1850 Census. By the 1860 Census, the family had removed to Scranton, PA where they remained for the next 50 years. I have been totally unable to identify WHERE in South Wales this family came from and/or Harriett's maiden name and I am hoping that finding the birth information for sons John and Howard may give some clues. Any help/ideas anyone can give me will be greatly appreciated. Thank you..... Liz