I live in Florida and wasn't planning a trip to Northampton CO. until next year. It sounds like I better revise that plan and move it up to this year. I am not sure where they are right now; is it the address you listed or somewhere else? Do you have any idea of date for demolition...........if it is a "done Deed"............. Thank you Kyleen Gavin ----- Original Message ----- From: msouders To: PANORTHA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 2:25 PM Subject: [PANORTHA-L] More problems After I sent the notification about Pennsylvania library budgets being slashed 50%, Dick Musselman, a highly respected (at least by me!) Northampton County genealogist sent the following, alarming message: Northampton Co. may be facing a double whammy. The Northampton County Archives, probably the best county archives in the state, will be demolished later this year to make room for a prison expansion. The county appears to be taking a step that will make all the archived records much less accessible to the public. They have not announced a plan for any new archives facility. I suspect it will be at a remote site and require a person make a request for a specific item which will then be returned to the courthouse in a couple of days. This is a big step backward from the current immediate access we enjoy. If the new process is implemented it will eliminate the possibility for any "out of the area" visitors using the facility unless they stay for an extended period of time. It will also make it much more time consuming for anyone to do research since many searches require multiple steps during the discovery process. Sorry I had to deliver more bad news, but this archives holds records of many families that are now dispersed across the country and around the world. Our local county executive and county council does not appreciate nor understand the importance of these records despite taking the credit for our county's 250th anniversary celebration last year. He went on in a subsequent message: It might be helpful to contact the following with your concerns: Glenn Reibman, County Executive Northampton County Government Center 669 Washington St. Easton, PA 18042 Phone: (610)559-3191 Frank Flisser, Clerk to Council 669 Washington St. Easton, PA 18042 Phone: (610)559-3195 It might also be helpful to contact one of the local newspapers with a Letter to the Editor. I do not have the contact info for the Express-Times, but the Morning Call can be reached at letters@mcall.com On a personal note, a few years ago I was introduced to Dick at the Marx Room and after talking about where I'd looked and where further I should check, Dick recommended the Northampton County Tax Records in these above-mentioned archives. I spent an afternoon there and was able to trace the movements of one elusive ancestor and establish some other facts as well. At the time I sent a posting to this list suggesting everyone take advantage of this wonderful resource. And now, more than ever. Sincerely, Marilyn

Dear Kyleen and all- Here is a description of the Archives, their location and what I found there, that I posted a few years ago to the list. So far as I know, this is all still true - but, apparently, not for long. If there are more questions, search the web site for Northampton County government or call them. (The description of the Archives is embedded in this message about a particular family) Marilyn Dear Larry and all- > > > Ordinarily I would have sent this message directly to Larry but > > because > > > there is some broader principle at work here, I'm sharing it with > > the > > > group. > > > I was doing research at the Marx Room at Easton P.L. on Tuesday > > but, > > > having looked at everything of relevance there I was starting to > > run out > > > of ideas. > > > Luckily a professional genealogist - Dick Musselman - gave me a > > > suggestion that worked out very well. He suggested Northampton > > County > > > tax lists which are available at the Archives, a building near the > > county > > > courthouse in Easton. > > > As a result, I spent the rest of the day there. The books are > > arranged > > > by year, starting in about 1792 with some partial areas available > > for > > > earlier years. They're pretty easy to use - easier, I thought, > > than > > > conveyances which I'd already mastered. Broken down by township > > and then > > > alphabetically by surname: all the B's will be together but not > > > necessarily in strict alpha order. After those lists are lists > > for > > > single men and these are in no apparent order. > > > > > > What I found of interest to you, Larry, is that the ONLY WARNER in > > Mt. > > > Bethel from about 1801 to about 1819 was John Warner. Thereafter > > John > > > Warner appears until 1833 and there's also a Daniel Warner listed > > from > > > about 1819 to about 1839. (I didn't look at each year but I did > > a > > > thorough spot check of them between 1792-1840.) > > > > > > There didn't appear to be any direct relationship between the two > > > Warners. That is, their names were not necessarily adjacent one > > another > > > which, in a not-strict alpha sequence could mean just about > > anything. > > > However, in just the 1830 list, John Warner is listed with Thomas > > Warner > > > right below. This WAS a find because my John Warner had his son > > Thomas > > > born 1807, so this appearance of Thomas at the age of 23 would be > > right > > > on target. That tells me that the John Warner in Lower Mt. Bethel > > is my > > > John Warner, father of at least Jacob - b. 1791, Thomas, b. 1807 > > and > > > Elizabeth b. 1809. and probably your William, b. 1813, too. > > > > > > Now, the first appearance of William Warner is in the 1834 list - > > when HE > > > would have been 21. He's listed for Forks Township and his > > occupation is > > > "miller". His name appears directly below the same Thomas Warner > > (who > > > was in Forks as a miller in 1833) and a few names from Jacob > > Warner, > > > miller, who has been in the Forks tax list since 1828. > > > As you know, both Thomas and William Warner married women from > > Forks > > > Township families in the mid-1830's. > > > > > > In 1835, 1836 and 1837, William Warner was listed for Easton with > > no > > > occupation noted and by 1838 and 1839 he was back in Forks again, > > with > > > Jacob and Thomas and two new names appear: George Warner and Jacob > > J. > > > Warner, both millers. They could have been sons of Jacob. > > > This is as far as I went but for anyone who's gotten to this > > point, you > > > can see how these would be invaluable for filling in the spaces > > between > > > census and deed records. > > > Hope this helps, > > > Marilyn > > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:08:45 -0500 "Larry A. Warner" > > > <warnerlarry@juno.com> writes: > > > > > > > > To everyone who has replied to me on the > > > > subject "Information regarding Warner's". > > > > > > > > To those of you who gave me wonderful suggestions and > > > > information and those who continue to do so, as a man > > > > of 80 years old trying to find his ggrandfather's parents > > > > and siblings, although I haven't reached that part of the > > > > search yet, the response has just been unbelievable. > > > > It certainly is heart warming to know so many people > > > > who want to help others in their quest. > > > > > > > > Therefore, I want to say a big "Thank you" and to > > > > acknowledge everyone at this time. > > > > > > > > For more information regarding William Warner, > > > > which might help. The 1840 census has him living > > > > in Forks Township, Northanpton Co., outside of > > > > Easton PA.. > > > > He married in 1833 to Margaretha Arner at the First Reformed > > > > German Church In Easton, PA. But who his parents and > > > > siblings were when he was born in 1813, is any ones > > > > guess. It is possible his father's name was John or > > > > Jacob Warner. > > > > Where John or Jacob migrated from or were born, is another > > > > question. There were a lot of John and Jacob Warner's > > > > possibly not even related. It is believed they were born > > > > also in Penna., not necessarily Northampton Co. but > > > > could have been. > > > > > > > > Thank you all again. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyleen Gavin" <smiley23@atlantic.net> To: <PANORTHA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [PANORTHA-L] More problems > I live in Florida and wasn't planning a trip to Northampton CO. until next year. It sounds like I better revise that plan and move it up to this year. I am not sure where they are right now; is it the address you listed or somewhere else? Do you have any idea of date for demolition...........if it is a "done Deed"............. Thank you > Kyleen Gavin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: msouders > To: PANORTHA-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 2:25 PM > Subject: [PANORTHA-L] More problems > > > After I sent the notification about Pennsylvania library budgets being slashed 50%, Dick Musselman, a highly respected (at least by me!) Northampton County genealogist sent the following, alarming message: > > Northampton Co. may be facing a double whammy. The Northampton County > Archives, probably the best county archives in the state, will be demolished > later this year to make room for a prison expansion. The county appears to > be taking a step that will make all the archived records much less > accessible to the public. They have not announced a plan for any new > archives facility. I suspect it will be at a remote site and require a > person make a request for a specific item which will then be returned to the > courthouse in a couple of days. This is a big step backward from the current > immediate access we enjoy. If the new process is implemented it will > eliminate the possibility for any "out of the area" visitors using the > facility unless they stay for an extended period of time. It will also make > it much more time consuming for anyone to do research since many searches > require multiple steps during the discovery process. > Sorry I had to deliver more bad news, but this archives holds records of > many families that are now dispersed across the country and around the > world. Our local county executive and county council does not appreciate nor > understand the importance of these records despite taking the credit for our > county's 250th anniversary celebration last year. > > He went on in a subsequent message: > > It might be helpful to contact the following > with your concerns: > > Glenn Reibman, County Executive > Northampton County Government Center > 669 Washington St. > Easton, PA 18042 > Phone: (610)559-3191 > > Frank Flisser, Clerk to Council > 669 Washington St. > Easton, PA 18042 > Phone: (610)559-3195 > > It might also be helpful to contact one of the local newspapers with a > Letter to the Editor. I do not have the contact info for the Express-Times, > but the Morning Call can be reached at letters@mcall.com > > On a personal note, a few years ago I was introduced to Dick at the Marx Room and after talking about where I'd looked and where further I should check, Dick recommended the Northampton County Tax Records in these above-mentioned archives. I spent an afternoon there and was able to trace the movements of one elusive ancestor and establish some other facts as well. At the time I sent a posting to this list suggesting everyone take advantage of this wonderful resource. And now, more than ever. > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Marilyn > >