hi jim, there is so much on both of these families, here is an example. rev. wa-service ott abraham, sc line adam, srv as 1st lt. 5th pa. adam,, srv capt ott, md. mil. elias, pa. troops, card 1818, roll 39 john, s.c. rev. war-pensions ott adam, pa. line, applied 1818 washington co., md. age 64. in 1820 soldier had a wife age 58 or 59. not named in claim. soldier died 10 aug 1827 emanuel, pa. line, applied 1832 in cumberland co., pa. soldier was born march 29 1761 in bucks co., pa and he enlisted there with his 3 others brothers; henry, peter and benjamin ott (all deceased in 1832), a son jacob ott signed p.o.a. in 1853 in cumberland co., for himself and others. (too dim to read) john, s.c. line peter, wf beulah, ma. line rev. war-burials ott peter, camden, me. peter, st. paul's evangelical luth. ch. montgomery co., pa. rev. war vets-burials metzgar caper, hamilton ch. cem. monroe co., pa. jacob, lancaster co., pa conrad, tussey mt., pa jacob, lancaster co., pa jacob, ross co. ohio john, ross co., ohio john, lower smithfield, monroe co., pa. john, st. peter's , middletown, pa. george, holmes co. ohio rev. war-service metzger jacob, ga. samuel, ga. metzger james, srv capt. graff's co., pa. troops john, n.y. rev. war-pensions metzger jacob, pa. line, soldier was born 22 jan 1747. he lived at cumberland co., pa. at enlistment. applied 1832 in ross co., ohio war of 1812 metzgar william wf mary, srv capt. jacob cash, pa. mil jonas, wf elisabeth, ohio mil. william, srv jos. myers' co. md. mil. ott fidillas, wf mary, srv va isaac, srv samuel flack's pa. mil jacob, wf margaret, no pension, srv capt. goff, la. mil jacob, s.c. joel, la. mil john, old wars, va michael, md. mil. bucks co-births metzger catarina 22 sept 1774 johannes and elisa catrina cathrinea 30 march 1777 casper and julina christian bp 6 oct 1787 casper and wf elizabeth 16 may 1776 casper and juliana elizabeth catharine 23 oct 1776 andreas and barbara elisabetha 29 oct 1773 same margaret, 25 feb 1786 john and catharine nicolaus 4 jan 1786 casper and juliana philip 7 oct 1778 andreas and barbara ott- a ton lehigh co-births metzger anna eva ca 1765 christian and _ anna maria 7 may 1763 christian and anna christina christina 15 jan 1768 same jacob 6 may 1796 jacob and catharina jacob ca 1776 conrad and anna maria johann fridrich ca 1759 christian and anna catharine ott males only christian 15 sept 1777 georg and catharine daniel 27 dec 1784 same daniel, 8 july 1788 christofel and wf elias 12 march 1750 heinrich and maria magd. george f. 30 oct 1774 george and catharine george 15 dec 1795 henry and _ henry 22 march 1789 henry and magd jacob 8 april 1785 henry and magd jacobus 7 feb 1788 michael and wf johannes 3 jan 1776 george and catharine johannes ca 1777 henrich and - johannes ca 1778 christofel and - john 6 march 1798 jacob and margaret john nicholas 24 dec 1781 nicholas and a. maria jonathan 6 aug 1796 jacob and margaret northampton co-births ott catharine margaret, ca 1766 henry and cath. henry 15 june 1786 adam and cath. jacob 22 oct 1789, adam and cath. metzger barbara 10 oct 1784 andreas and barbara georg 24 feb 1796 abraham and susanna johannes 26 aug 1794 same jospeh 7 dec 1799 abraham and susanna (sylvius) nicolaus 4 jan 1786 casper and juliana monroe co. males metzger abraham 16 june 1815 george and cath. bernhard 22 jan 1821 nicoles and elis. (vetterman) carl 19 jan 1815 jonas and maria carl 1 may 1819 george and cath casper 14 june 1820 joseph and susanna casper 31 jan 1810 jonas and maria casper 7 fb 1813 nicholas and elis. casper 7 may 1824 joseph and susanna daniel 8 nov 1822 jonas and marg. (merwin) emos 5 feb 1825 johannes and hanna george adam (t) 22 march 1813 jonas and maria george 12 dec 1822 george and cath jacob 24 july 1807 jonas and maria jacob 20 july 1798 casper and juliana jacobus 24 jan 1818 jonas and maria johannes 6 april 1806 jonas and maria johannes 4 dec 1816 johannes and anna jonas 23 may 1788 johannes and cath joseph 24 march 1813 jonas and maria joseph 11 april 1796 casper and juliana levi 8 may 1822 john and hannah peter 12 june 1794 casper and julian peter 29 june 1819 jonas and maria peter 27 nov 1824 george and cath philip 19 sept 1811 nicolaus and eliz timotheus 23 jan 1823 peter and hannah (sober) william 29 jan 1821 jonas and maria (merwein) ott elisabeth 23 ? 1774 jacob and verona henrich 4 june 1778 jacob and farina Best Wishes, Geri