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    1. Re: [PANORTHA-L] SILVIUS Part 2
    2. lemen
    3. Additional stuff about Palatinates The Area I listed with the surrounding locations is the main area referred to as "The Palatinate" in many genealogy articles. Many, if not most, who came from that area are referred to as Palatinate Emigrants. So if your ancestor is mentioned in that way it kind of implies they lived inside that area bounded by the named Duchy States. Annette K. Burgert, has an 84 page booklet called "Master Index to The Emigrants Documented In The Published Works Of Annette K. Burgert". Long Name... (This means exactly what it says. She has investigated the family names and has them in books she has had published. She does have some for sale directly from herself.) She has no idea that I have written this and I only do it because I am sure she will not mind. I order books from her myself and we speak on the phone occassionally. We are not strangers... You may tell her where and how you found out about her works... It is $12.50 plus $2.50 postage and of course if you live in Pa there is the + 6% sales Tax. Her address is: AKB Publications 691 Weavertown Road, Myerstown, PA. 17067 The inside cover has a map with proper names for many areas and it does include better known towns and cities. Most of the area referred to as The Palatinate is west of the Rhine river, nearer to the south side of the illustration, above Switzerland. The map covers from the Belgium/Luxembourg area in the east to just west of a north-south line from near Erfurt to Bamberg to Nuremberg and then Augsberg. Arranged alphabetically so use is easy. Each name has listed the place they came from and when. (I only counted one page.) There were 58 names on page #1 and it continues that way to page 84 which contains 8 names and info. That is about 4,656 names all neatly catalouged. All these are people that Annette has documented in her past volumes. A worth while publication for many people since she has published 18 books concerning the Germanic Emigration subjects. A complete price list can be had from her and I am sure she would appreciate a large stamped envelope. Her expenses can, otherwise, become enormous. The listing is two pages so one stamp is enough for the return. Sorry, she is not on the Internet.... I have several of her books (3) and booklets (8) and I can look up some names if anyone wants me to do it because I do have the Master index. (More books will come around later.) A bit of my own history I know a bit more than some folks do about Germany. I was among the first 100 across the Bridge at Remagen and that is 24 miles north of the City of Koblenz which is the northern tip of The Palatinate. I was a 19 year old, PFC, 99th Infantry Division Machine Gunner in those days with a great interest in the land of my forefathers who came from nearby... in 1731 and 1751. I visited there again, as a U.S. Air Force Sergeant, in the early 1950s when things were peaceful and quiet. Now, a youngish 78 year old, I am learning more and more about my early people. Ain't the Internet great?? Lee Mensinger 1229 Fredericksburg Road New Braunfels, Tx 78130 830-620-6575 ----- Original Message ----- From: "msouders" <msouders@nyc.rr.com> To: <PANORTHA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [PANORTHA-L] SILVIUS > Pam and All- > There is an organization Palatines to America, or Palam. "Palatines" is > defined as German-speaking people who immigrated in the 1700s (most of our > Northampton Co. ancestor group) but also includes other German immigrants > from later, i.e., 19th century arrivals too. > They have a library in Columbus, OH, which I've never been to, but it is > quite a collection. I have a feeling that if I read German better, I'd get > more from a visit there. > Their web site is www.Palam.org. I've been a member for about 5 years and > they put out several publications that are very instructive. One of them is > The Palatine Immigrant (this is the one I mentioned in an earlier post). A > running column in that publication is "Ask Ernie" and this is for > identifying geographic places in Germany where you might have the 18th (or > 19th) century name for it. Ernie Thode is the expert who edits/writes this > section and in the last issue he answered a question for me that broke > through a huge stumbling block I (and genealogical cousins) had been > grappling with for thirty years. > With your membership, you get membership to a local chapter as well. There > are different chapters including a PA one to which I belong. I live in NYC > and there is a NYS chapter but it deals with the early 1709 Palatine group > and my ancestors were from PA & NJ. Once, about 3 years ago, I went to a > National conference held over three days in Harrisburg. The speakers were > excellent (Hank Z. Jones, Annette Burgert, etc.) The conferences are held > all over the country; the year after that, it was in Colorado. The local > chapters have meetings in their home states. > The cost of membership is not great --- about 30/year -- but check the web > site if you're interested. You can also buy back issues of the publication. > I just went to the web site and see it has an index of Surnames, Places and > Ships to its publications. Everyone on the list might want to check it out. > Hope this helps, > Marilyn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Fite" <fite52@comcast.net> > To: "msouders" <msouders@nyc.rr.com> > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:44 PM > Subject: Re: [PANORTHA-L] SILVIUS > > > > Marilyn, > > > > What is the Palantine Immigrant? > > > > Thanks, Pam > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "msouders" <msouders@nyc.rr.com> > > To: <PANORTHA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:58 PM > > Subject: [PANORTHA-L] SILVIUS > > > > > > > I think it's Marie Robinson who researches this name, Silvius. In the > > current issue of The Palatine Immigrant, there's a reference to a Johan > > Henrich Silvius, b. 1713 - d. bef Oct 1776. Any interest, get in touch > with > > me and I'll give you the complete reference. > > > (I've recently lost all my email and most of my address book, so am > > muddling around right now.) > > > Marilyn > > > > > >

    10/19/2003 11:54:49
    1. [PANORTHA-L] Striebytown, PA
    2. Frank Keenan
    3. Am looking for any information regarding this town which was inhabited in the 1700"s. Thanks for the help.

    10/19/2003 03:55:22
    1. [PANORTHA-L] odds and ends
    2. geri brennan
    3. Keiser, Conrad, died Sept 25, aged 90, his wife of 24 years, Catharine nee Vollmer, their daughter, Catharine married John Shough Miller, Frederick, born March 17, 1767. died July 10, 1830, children, John, Peter, Michael,Christina, Polly, Philip, Elizabeth married George Kiser, Anna married Jacob Boyer, Philips, Valentine, born, July 1, 1759, died Oct 22, 1834, his daughter Elizabeth, married Michael Miler, and his daughter, Catharine married ___ Keser Rosli, Conrad, born Aug 9, 1770, died Dec 6, 1838, wife` Catharine Sarah, Children; John, Henry, Solomon, Lydia, Susanna Ratzel, John, born Sept 5, 1763, died Oct 5, 1847, his wife Elizabeth, born Feb 7, 1768, died July 21, 1848. Children, Jacob, Elizabeth married Michael Schoch, Catharine married Joseph Shelby, Susanna, married George Roesly. Schoch, John, born Aug 31, 1751, died Aug 2, 1837, Elizabeth, his wife, born Sept 26,1757, died April 24, 1834. Jacob, born Feb 15, 1761, died Oct 9, 1834, Margaret, his wife was born Jan 7, 1771, died March 5, 1849 Best Wishes, Geri

    10/19/2003 01:09:11
    1. [PANORTHA-L] odds and ends
    2. geri brennan
    3. Warner/Wilson James Wilson, of Mt. Pocono, was born in Phila., May 1844, s/o James and Isabella Wilson, natives of England, who on coming to Monroe County located at Paradise township. In the family there were 5 children, one son and four daughters. James Wilson, the only son, in 1871, married Angeline F. Warner, d/o Hiraim F. Warner, and Levina (Fetherman) Warner. Her grandfather, Samuel Warner, was born and reared in CT, when a young man came to Monroe Co., where he married Francis Shirley, a native of Hamilton township. To them were born.Hiram, JOhn, William, Alfred, Samuel, Jerome, Mary A., the wife of John Sloat of Wayne Co., Hannah, the wife o Eliot Harris, of Sus., Co, Emeline, wife of Eli Barnes of Sterling, and Anna M., wife of Edward Woodward, of Sus. Co Hiram Warner made his home in Coolbaugh township, Monroe Co., until his death in 1887 leaving 7 children; Angeline F., William C., John H., Ada J., George B., Martha A., Hiram M. Schoch, Theodore, founder of the Stroudsburg Jeffersonian, was born Oct 30, 1814, at Mooresburg, Plainfield township, Northampton Co. He married May 24, 1842 to Sarah Burke, born May 1, 1822, she died Nov 1, 1849, and in 1856 he married Jane Hammon. The latter's death, occured Feb 28, 1851, and in Jan. 1855 he married Sarah E. Pelton, born Jan 1, 1837. He had 11 children, 3 by his first wife, 1 by the 2nd and 7 by the third. Rose, James Cole, of Pocono township, was born Dec 27, 1840, s/o Elijah and Maria (Cole) Rose. The father was a native of NY, born in 1813. He died in Westfall township in April 1871. His mother, a native of NJ (Sussex County) was born 1812, died in 1870. Children; Margaret J, married Oliver Carpenter, Clarissa, died in childhood, Frederick married Fanny Cornwall, Mary wife of Linn Ettsal. Subject;s paternal great-grandfather, was Thomas Rose, native of Stonington, CT, moved to Shaytown, NJ, later to Mathope, NY and finally to Mngaup, NY Frederichk A. Rose, subject's grandfather, his grandmother, Margaret (Rider) Rose. Children; Elijah, Catharine, married Isaac Cuddelback, Benjamin, married 1st Mary Holbert and 2nd to Clarissa Holbert, Mary,the wife ofEzekiel Gumar. James C., married Oct 17, 1866 to Elizabeth Martin. Rose, Henry J., born Dec 1853, at Silver Lake, married in 1879 to Sarah Worthing, d/o Col. John P., and Elizabeth Worthing, of Binghampton, NY. Best Wishes, Geri

    10/18/2003 10:10:27
    1. [PANORTHA-L] Re: odds and ends (at Phila.)
    2. geri brennan
    3. 1771 June 9 Sylvius (w) to Dorothea Mueller, (w) 1771 Oct 22 Jacob Metz to Barbara Schwartz 1771 Dec 10 Adam Metz to Barbara Graebil 1771 Oct 17 Joseph Cobourn to Hannah Godschalk Rev. War pensions Mooney Artis or Artist, PA Line, applied 1832 Fayette Co. aged 70. Soldier lived in Berks Co at enlistment. Soldier was born in 1760 or 61 in County Down in Ireland, came to America in 1775 and landed at Phila. After the Rev he lived in Berks Co, then moved to Chester Co., then to Mifflen Co, then to Huntingdon Co., then to Bedford Co and about 1817 he moved to Fayette Co. Barnet, Cont. Line (NJ.) Soldier was born 16 Feb 1760, applied in NY. In 1828 soldier had a wife Charlotte aged 65 and children, usanna Van Wagen, aged 37, William, aged 16, Edward aged 10, and Lenard, aged 5 and they youngest a girl aged 5 months, a daughter Sarah the wife of Thomas Boylston was referred to. Briant or Bryant wife Margart, GA and VA, soldier married Margaret Gilliam 7 March 1793 Dennis, Sea Service, PA applied 1818 at "New Town" in Phila Co, vet had enlisted at Phila. Henry, PA Line John, NJ Martin, VA born July 1752 Nicholas, Charlotte, NJ Lineoldierwas born 1 Feb 1763 in Essex Co, soldier married Charlotte Parker Best Wishes, Geri

    10/18/2003 08:21:19
    1. Re: [PANORTHA-L] SILVIUS
    2. lemen
    3. Hi all, I must answer the note about Palatinates and try to make a bit of sense at the same time. First thing is that folks must get use to the idea that Germany was not even a country until 1896 whenit was united by Bismark. Ptrior to that time it was a large conglomerate of small units often referrerd to as "Duchys" which were presumedly ciontrolled by Dukes/Counts and other basically "Royal Personalities". One of the very best examples of this system had a very harsh effect on the New World when we took on the British in the American Revolution. Every one has heard of the "Hessians" and they have often been much maligned as "Mercenary Soldiers" who fought for the British because they were bought and paid for by the British Crown Royals. The truth of the matter is very simple... King George of England was German... He was hated by the English since he spoke almost no English at all. He was not only the King of England but the Ruler of Brandenberg-Hesse as well. The area of present day Germany had a terrible problem in the 1700s with unemployment and poor pay for work done. Many less skilled men went into Military service, where ever they could, since it was almost the only means of employment available to many. So some of the troops in Hesse were from other areas and hired out, "enlisted' to be soldiers for the Hesse area. During the revolution King George ordered his Hessian Soldiers to the New World to fight. He had a perfect right to do this since he was the King of Brandenberg-Hesse and they were his Army.. As were the British regulars... This is only one of many examples of the fact that Germany, as we know it today, did not exist. Some portions of Germany were arranged in such a way that several Duchies got together and formed a stronger Geographic and Political grouping. These areas were Palatinates. There was an Eastern, Western etc. It included border areas near Switzerland into the Alsace and western Rhineland regions and further east into large parts of what is now Germany. A few people had a bit of money and were employed. When they had the opportunity they left and went elsewhere. This was not as easy as it sounds since on most occassions they had to request and obtain permission, from their political region ruler or Palatinate, to travel or move elsewhere. In many places they, basically, had to buy their freedom. Skilled people were highly prized and often had serious problems leaving but many did it anyway. Many felt that they were actually slaves to the more wealth people and rulers. Oh yes... There was a penalty if you did leave with out the proper paperwork. They could be imprisoned or even killed for failure to follw the rules. My GGGGG Grandfather travelled from the Northern Kraichgau, where Eppingen is located, and his entire family came to Pennsylvania thru Philadelphia. He and his son with wife and three children , his daughter and her husband, Kessler, with eight children. I do not know the cost of the trip. But it must have been quite a large amount for 16 people. It had to be costly but the did it A brief discription of a Palatinate from page 3 of Annette K.Burgerts book "Eighteenth Century Emigrants" Vol II, The Western Palatinates. "The modern State of Rhineland-Pfalz, in English is the Rhineland Palatinate, and it was established after WW II. It is bordered in the north byNordhein-Westfalen, east by Hesse -Baden-Wurttemberg, France to the south Saarland to the Southwest and west to Luxembourg and Belgium." So you can easily see that this arrangement or predicament had little to do with anything that happened in the New World but a lot to do with unemployment and poor wages and working conditions in the Old one. They were all "under the thumb" so to speak. On page 2 of Annette K. Burgert's book is a map otf that Palatinate area which is covered by the book itself. The partial title "Western Palatinate' implies that there were others So one can expect Eastern, Southern and perhaps Northern to exist. Therefore a Palantine Immagrant is one who comes from one of the Palantine regions, and, certainly does not specify which one it might be or was. Chances are great that it was not far from theRhine. Most travelled north on the Rhine River by boat/ship and loaded on to their ocean crossing vessels in the Dutch port of Rotterdam. I suspect Annette could give a better explaination than I did but at least it is a start. ----- Original Message ----- From: "msouders" <msouders@nyc.rr.com> To: <PANORTHA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [PANORTHA-L] SILVIUS > Pam and All- > There is an organization Palatines to America, or Palam. "Palatines" is > defined as German-speaking people who immigrated in the 1700s (most of our > Northampton Co. ancestor group) but also includes other German immigrants > from later, i.e., 19th century arrivals too. > They have a library in Columbus, OH, which I've never been to, but it is > quite a collection. I have a feeling that if I read German better, I'd get > more from a visit there. > Their web site is www.Palam.org. I've been a member for about 5 years and > they put out several publications that are very instructive. One of them is > The Palatine Immigrant (this is the one I mentioned in an earlier post). A > running column in that publication is "Ask Ernie" and this is for > identifying geographic places in Germany where you might have the 18th (or > 19th) century name for it. Ernie Thode is the expert who edits/writes this > section and in the last issue he answered a question for me that broke > through a huge stumbling block I (and genealogical cousins) had been > grappling with for thirty years. > With your membership, you get membership to a local chapter as well. There > are different chapters including a PA one to which I belong. I live in NYC > and there is a NYS chapter but it deals with the early 1709 Palatine group > and my ancestors were from PA & NJ. Once, about 3 years ago, I went to a > National conference held over three days in Harrisburg. The speakers were > excellent (Hank Z. Jones, Annette Burgert, etc.) The conferences are held > all over the country; the year after that, it was in Colorado. The local > chapters have meetings in their home states. > The cost of membership is not great --- about 30/year -- but check the web > site if you're interested. You can also buy back issues of the publication. > I just went to the web site and see it has an index of Surnames, Places and > Ships to its publications. Everyone on the list might want to check it out. > Hope this helps, > Marilyn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Fite" <fite52@comcast.net> > To: "msouders" <msouders@nyc.rr.com> > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:44 PM > Subject: Re: [PANORTHA-L] SILVIUS > > > > Marilyn, > > > > What is the Palantine Immigrant? > > > > Thanks, Pam > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "msouders" <msouders@nyc.rr.com> > > To: <PANORTHA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:58 PM > > Subject: [PANORTHA-L] SILVIUS > > > > > > > I think it's Marie Robinson who researches this name, Silvius. In the > > current issue of The Palatine Immigrant, there's a reference to a Johan > > Henrich Silvius, b. 1713 - d. bef Oct 1776. Any interest, get in touch > with > > me and I'll give you the complete reference. > > > (I've recently lost all my email and most of my address book, so am > > muddling around right now.) > > > Marilyn > > > > > >

    10/18/2003 07:03:56
    1. Re: [PANORTHA-L] Re: [PALEHIGH-L] Re: odds and ends
    2. geri brennan
    3. Kathryn A. Gottshalk, the first woman magistrate in the Commonwealth. (1923), she was born a Kulp, native of Montogmery Co. She married Frank S. Gottshak, in NY City. He was a teacher of Central High in Phila. Members of the Lutheran Church. No Children mentioned. Abram M. Kulp, was born in Towamencin township, Montgomery Co., Dec 9, 1889 s/o Isaac Cassel and Lizzie Stauffer (Metz) Kulp. He is a member of an old PA family established in PA during the early years of the 18th century, when seven sons (or six sons and one daughter, as one version has it) of Diehleman Kolbs, native of the Palatinate, came from Germay and settled in Germantown, between 1711 and 1713. Mr. Kulp's grandparents were Abraham H. and Eliza (Cassel) Kulp.His father Isaac Cassel Kulp of Towmanenicin township, marred Lizzie (Stauffer) Metz. Abram M., married July 3, 1919 at Sunbury, Olive S. Knipe, d/o Chester K. Knipe, a farmer at Sunbury, and Emma (Snyder) Knipe. Best Wishes, Geri

    10/18/2003 06:34:10
    1. Re: [PANORTHA-L] SILVIUS
    2. msouders
    3. Pam and All- There is an organization Palatines to America, or Palam. "Palatines" is defined as German-speaking people who immigrated in the 1700s (most of our Northampton Co. ancestor group) but also includes other German immigrants from later, i.e., 19th century arrivals too. They have a library in Columbus, OH, which I've never been to, but it is quite a collection. I have a feeling that if I read German better, I'd get more from a visit there. Their web site is www.Palam.org. I've been a member for about 5 years and they put out several publications that are very instructive. One of them is The Palatine Immigrant (this is the one I mentioned in an earlier post). A running column in that publication is "Ask Ernie" and this is for identifying geographic places in Germany where you might have the 18th (or 19th) century name for it. Ernie Thode is the expert who edits/writes this section and in the last issue he answered a question for me that broke through a huge stumbling block I (and genealogical cousins) had been grappling with for thirty years. With your membership, you get membership to a local chapter as well. There are different chapters including a PA one to which I belong. I live in NYC and there is a NYS chapter but it deals with the early 1709 Palatine group and my ancestors were from PA & NJ. Once, about 3 years ago, I went to a National conference held over three days in Harrisburg. The speakers were excellent (Hank Z. Jones, Annette Burgert, etc.) The conferences are held all over the country; the year after that, it was in Colorado. The local chapters have meetings in their home states. The cost of membership is not great --- about 30/year -- but check the web site if you're interested. You can also buy back issues of the publication. I just went to the web site and see it has an index of Surnames, Places and Ships to its publications. Everyone on the list might want to check it out. Hope this helps, Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Fite" <fite52@comcast.net> To: "msouders" <msouders@nyc.rr.com> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [PANORTHA-L] SILVIUS > Marilyn, > > What is the Palantine Immigrant? > > Thanks, Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "msouders" <msouders@nyc.rr.com> > To: <PANORTHA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:58 PM > Subject: [PANORTHA-L] SILVIUS > > > > I think it's Marie Robinson who researches this name, Silvius. In the > current issue of The Palatine Immigrant, there's a reference to a Johan > Henrich Silvius, b. 1713 - d. bef Oct 1776. Any interest, get in touch with > me and I'll give you the complete reference. > > (I've recently lost all my email and most of my address book, so am > muddling around right now.) > > Marilyn > > >

    10/18/2003 02:18:34
    1. [PANORTHA-L] Re: [PALEHIGH-L] Re: odds and ends
    2. geri brennan
    3. Your very welcome. Here's a little more. Schmoyer, H. L. was born in Breingsville, Lehigh Co., Aug 4,1883, son of L.D. and Alvesta (Hamerly). The mother was born in Wennersville, Lehigh Co. The father, a native of Wennersville., he died in 1921. H.L., married Sadie O. Wenner, native of Lehigh Co. Children; Helen C.,and Luther H., who married Kathryn Hollenback, of Allentown. Hollenbach, Frank H.,of Whitehall township, was born March 5, 1861, s/o Moses Hollenbach. He was the propietor of the Sand Springs Roller Mills, which was erected in 1832 by Michael Wotring Sr. The Hollenbach family is one of the oldest of Lehigh Co. Moses Hollenbach, s/o John and Maria, was born July 30, 1830. He married Ellen Sheirer, and they had 9 children. Surviving children (in 1894) Melissa, wife of Franklin Zimmerman, Amanda, wife of Peter Hoffman, Franklin H., Catharine, wife of J. M. Diehl, Thomas B., born Nov. 2, 1865, married Velarah Houseman, Emma, wife of Dr. James Haas/. The wife of mother departed this life, Nov 21, 1885 Best Wishes, Geri

    10/18/2003 01:35:29
    1. [PANORTHA-L] [StLouis-MO] New Orleans Passenger Lists Now Online - from 1845
    2. Received this from another list. Hope it helps someone. Reta >From the St. Louis-MO List: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- In a message dated 10/16/03 11:02:54 PM Central Daylight Time, joe@genesearch.com writes: > Hello All, > > I have recently completed transcribing the names of passengers to New > Orleans who arrived in Jan, Feb & March 1845. You can find this project > here... > > New Orleans Passenger Lists - Filling in the Gaps > http://www.genesearch.com/neworleans/ > > There are approximately 3300 passengers on about 158 ships from foreign > ports. You can search for passengers by using the search box on the > opening page. You will find immigrants from Germany, England, Ireland, > France, Spain, Mexico, Cuba, and many other countries. About a third of > the passengers came from Germany. > > For those of you looking for New Orleans arrivals at other times see... > > New Orleans Passenger List Research Guide > http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/neworleans.html > > Feel free to share this post with other mailing lists or researchers. > > Good luck with your searches. > > Regards, > Joe > joe@genesearch.com > > ==== StLouis-MO Mailing List ==== > Visit the St. Louis website http://www.rootsweb.com/~mostloui >

    10/17/2003 09:20:42
    1. [PANORTHA-L] Re: [PAMONROE] Re: Rooss, Woodring
    2. geri brennan
    3. Schlauch, Johannes Jacob, a son of Philip and Margaret born Feb. 14, 1743 Schlauch, Maria, d/o Philip and Margareta, born June 17, 1753 Werner, George, s/o H. and Catharine, born March 4 1816 Sophia Werner, d.o Heinrich and Anna Maria, born May 31, 1819 Jacob Frederich Werner, a dau., Susanna, born Oct 2, 1821 Jacob and Margaret Werner. a son, William, born Jan 30 1823 June 1, 1742 Jacob Schlauch to Catharine, d/o Paul Frantz above at Williams Best Wishes, Geri

    10/17/2003 08:19:36
    1. [PANORTHA-L] Re: [PAMONROE] Re: Rooss, Woodring
    2. geri brennan
    3. Lehigh Co, then Bucks Flory, Anna Margaret, born 20 Aug 1801,d/o John and Elizabeth Werner, Henry, born Dec 9, 1791, s/o Frederick and Charlotte Werner, John Michael, 18 April 1790, s/o Frederick Flory, Sarah, 12 Nov 1799, d/o John and Elizabeth Wutring, Jacob, 24 Oct 1802, s/o Jacob and Elisabeth Wutring, David, 25 July 1806, s/o Jacob and Elisabeth Woodring, Philip 17 July 1808, s/o Jacob Woodring, Catharine, 19 Sept 1810, d/o Jacob and Elizabeth Woodring, Levi, 14 March 1817, s/o Jacob and Elizabeth Woodring, Thomas, s/o Jacob and Eliz., born 15 April 1823 Woodring, Sophia, d/o Jacob and Eliz. 6 April 1826 Woodring, William David, 3 June 1925, s/o John and Anna Marg, there is a few Rossli's here. Best Wishes, Geri

    10/17/2003 07:44:42
    1. [PANORTHA-L] Re: Rooss, Woodring
    2. geri brennan
    3. Hi, Marg that was the 1st time I've seen Rooss. Hecker, John Adam, resided in Lehigh township, Northampton Co., where he died June 24, 1815. He married in 1781 to Maria Engle, who was born Oct 4, 1759. Children; John, Jacob, John, Henry, Kate, etc. Jost William Hecker moved to Whitehall township, Lehigh county, where he died in 1821, wife Regina nee Seem, who died in Feb 1827, buried in Zion's Church, near Kreidersville, children; Adam, Elizabeth, Paul, John, Egidius, Jacob, Mary, Mrs. Woodring, Mrs. Butz, Mrs. Kreiling. Buried at Easton May 20, 1797 Buried in William's township, William Woodring, s/o William, aged 2y 5m, less 12d Aug 8, 1805 Jacob Woodring, Williams township, 2y 10m 27d Jan 7, 1825, Sarah Ann Woodring, Williams aged 7m April 30, Jacob Wootring, Williams aged 47y 2m 3d Philip Watring to Anna Margaretha Flory, Feb 24, 1789 Jacob Woodring to Eliizabeth Odenwaelder, Jan 7, 1802 Jacob Steinbach to Elizabeth Woodring Sept 5, 1805 John Schlough to Susan Conrad, Jan 28, 1806 John Wooding to E.liz. Laddig, March 2, 1806 Philip Woodring to Catharine Kunsman, March 6, 1821 John Kunsman to Catharine Woodring, Feb 25, 1821 Jacob Woodring to Hannah Moore, Oct 11, 1827 William Woodring to Catharine Brotsman May 25, 1827 Charles Woodring to Elisabeth Radenbach Jan 13, 1831 Philip Woodring to Henrietta Heller, Sept 4, 1831 Michael Maurer to Rosina Woodring, Oct 30, 1832 Abraham Woodring to Catharine Ruth April 22, 1835 Daniel Woodring to Catharine Zeller April 10 1836 George Woodring to Sarah Ann Rodenbach, Sept 10, 1837 John Wootring to Mary Ann Koechlein, Nov 28, 1840 Jacob Wootring to Sibella Unangst, April 15, 1849 Abraham, s/o William and Rosina Woodring, born Aug 8, 1799, sp Abraham and wife (Woodring) John Philip Woodring, s/o Abraham and Margaretha, born Sept 13, 1800, sp Philip and Maria Elizabeth Woodring Woodring, James T., a lawyer at S. Bethlehem, was born in Hellertown, Northampton Co., s/o John Woodring, also a native of that county, born 1812. He died July 4, 1860 in his 84th year. Members of the Woodring familyy, who name was originally Wottring, came to America from the Rhine Province in 1717, locating at Easton. John Wooding was a farmer, at Hellertown. He died in 1883, his wife, Susan (Soliday) Woodring, was born in Bucks Co., a d/o Daniel Soliday. The parental family of James T., comprised 5 children, 3 of which are living (1894), and James T., is the youngest. He married 1889 to Annie Long, d/o Madison Long. Children; James T. Jr., and an infant un-named. Best Wishes, Geri

    10/17/2003 07:07:54
    1. [PANORTHA-L] Re: Rose-Slough
    2. geri brennan
    3. Hi, I'm sure you have these but just in case Northampton Co Woodring Abraham, 8 Aug 1799, s/o William and Rosina 1st Reformed Church, Easton Elizabeth, 22 Oct 1795, d/o Philip and Elisabeth Moravian Congregation at Schoeneck in Upper Nazareth township Jacob, 25 Feb 1793 William and Rosina , Williams Congregation Johan Philip, 29 Jan 1799, s/o Nicolaus and Catarina 1st Reformed, Easton Johan Philip 13 Sept 1800, s/o Abraham and Margaretha 1st Reformed, Easton Maria Magdalena, 3 July 1800, d/o Nicolaus and Catharine 1st Reformed, Easton Woodringer Johannes, 11 March 1797, s/o William and Rosina , First Reformed Church of Easton Marriages-Bethlehem Woodring, Barbara to Wilhelm Bohler, May 30, 1797 Buried at Easton Odenwelder, Johan Philip, born 2 Sept 1748, died 20 May 1828, his daughter, Elizabeth married Jacob Woodring Hay's Cemetery Woodring, Philip, born 9 Jan 1741, died 7 April 1819, Maria Elizabeth, born 26 June 1743, died 28 July 1829, children; Maria Margaret, wife of George Dram, Elizabeth, wife of Jacob Stoneback, Philip, John Nicholas, Abraham John,and William Wottring, Abraham, born 19 April 1777, died 9 Dec 1852, Margaret his wife nee Brotzman, Feb. 1781 died 27 July 1826 Best Wishes, Geri

    10/17/2003 12:42:04
    1. [PANORTHA-L] Re: odds and ends (very long)
    2. geri brennan
    3. Recorded at Phila. Diel, Jeremia to Maria Rosina Staud, Sept 5 1784 Frank, Charles to Hannah Elliot (L) Oct 21, 1784 Bosshard, Andreas to __ Diderich (L) May 1, 1783 Winter, Nicholas to Maria Schneider, Aug 9, 1783 Haas, Casper (W) to Catharine Sneck (L) March 18 1770 Hahl. Heinrich to Maria Horning March 26, 1776 Flory, Johann to Elizabeth Schmidt March 13, 1776 Boucher, Joseph to Rachel Walton (L) Oct 19 1771 Dietz, Johan Philip to Anna Catharine Heck, Dec 1, 1771 Diel, Catharina to Eberhard Langhof Aug 27, 1772 Warner, Joseph to Charity Moore Dec 1,1772 Metz, Jacob to Barbara Schwartz, Oct 21, 1772 Rose, Thomas to Mary Brakel (L) Jan 25, 1773 Diel, George to Rosina Hoffman May 25 1773 Dietz, Martin to Sabina Hartman (freed servants) Nov 7, 1773 Schneider, Felix to Elizabeth Fuchs, March 1, 1774 Cartwright, Joseph (w) to Mary Weber (w) July 4 1774 Cartwright John to Margaret Yokee (L) May 5, 1774 Row, Adam to Susannah Welsh (L) Aug 23, 1774 Warner, Wilhelm, to Wilhelmine Klein Dec 1, 1774 Werner, Jacob to Sarah McDaniel, (w-L) Jan 23, 1775 Brellisford, Thomas to Sarah "Hackhouse" April 22, 1775 Bartholomee, Peter to Elizabeth Kucker, May 23, 1775 Werner, Hieronimus to Christina Furrer, July 16, 1781 Rau, Leonard to Anna Rister, Dec 27 1781 Jaeger, John to Catharine Pepper (L) Dec 27 1781 Hoener Jacob to Margaretha Rister, April 24, 1782 Sterner, Andreas to Rebecca Henhieser (L) May 10, 1782 Oberdorff, Andreas to Barbara Fuchs April 4, 1783 Supplee Deborah to George Hensel April 24, 1783 Oberdorff __ to Catharine Sanders June 13, 1784 Backofen, Maria Magdalena to John Jacob Schmidt Feb 25, 1770 VanHorn, John to Johanna Sheerman (L) Jan 25, 1770 Warner, Philip Jacob (w) to Anna Magdalena Fasler (w) March 27, 1770 Schroeder, Otto Christoper to Veronica Ronn Jan 1,, 1796 Kemp, Jacob to Maria Duerr (Derr) Jan 7, 1796 Warner, Mary to Mathias Huber July 4, 1796 Rooss, Carl to Margaret Klein Nov 19, 1797 Row, Elizabeth to John McDaniel April 8, 1798 Ernest, George to Dorothea Schneider, July 8, 1798 Warner, George to Elizabeth Meyer Nov 22, 1798 Warner, Matthias to Marjarey Currie (w) Nov 24, 1798 Dietz, Maria to Christoper Moos Jan 1, 1799 Backeover, Sarah to William Maxwell, Feb 2, 1799 Dietz, Hannah (w) to Johan Michael Plesch Feb 12, 1798 Franck, Philip to Catharine Schneider, Feb 24,1798 Row, Martin to Catharine Ann Brown March 20, 1799 Cartright, Barbara (w) to John Suger (w) May 28, 1799 Dietz, Johann Balthazar (w) to Elizabeth Laud June 5, 1799 Warner, Margaret to Robert Eves. June 5, 1799 Franck, Philip (w) to Sophia Bald Dec 18, 1799 Frank, Peter to Elizabeth Wahl March 27, 1800 Diehl, Catharina to Johann Philip Sonleitner, March 20, 1800 Hinkel, Sarah to Thomas Janney April 28, 1796 Hinkel Hannah to Joseph Lauch Aug 25, 1796 Horning Elizabeth to Archibald Towers, April 20, 1800 Warner, Christina to Oliver Cromwell June 7 1800 Warner, Maria (w) to John Ulrich (w) March 6, 1800 Yeackle Anna Maria (w) to William Williamson Sept 28, 1796 Christine, John to Christina Hains Feb 4, 1800 Dietz. Friedrich to Anna Barbara Kochendoeffer, July 28, 1795 Dietz, George to Sarah Montgomery May 15, 1794 Dietz, Johan to Sarah Kitlin July 3, 1796 Henkel, Johann to Maria Magdalena Klein Jan 9, 1794 Hinckel, Peter Jr., to Anne Rittenhouse, Dec 23, 1800 Rau, Anna Catharine to Martin Matthias Schiel April 13, 1755 Row, Hannah to Michael McCall, Dec 20, 1796 Best Wishes, Geri

    10/16/2003 11:49:36
    1. [PANORTHA-L] SILVIUS
    2. msouders
    3. I think it's Marie Robinson who researches this name, Silvius. In the current issue of The Palatine Immigrant, there's a reference to a Johan Henrich Silvius, b. 1713 - d. bef Oct 1776. Any interest, get in touch with me and I'll give you the complete reference. (I've recently lost all my email and most of my address book, so am muddling around right now.) Marilyn

    10/16/2003 02:58:54
    1. [PANORTHA-L] Re: Rose-Slough
    2. geri brennan
    3. Hi again. Estate of Abraham Worting, widow Anna Margaret, children, Peter eldset son, Margaret,wife of Peter Snyder, Mary, wife of Peter Polliert, Elisabeth, wife of Martin Andreas (Andews) Barbara Ann, William, Abraham, aged 14, April 20 1758 Best Wishes, Geri

    10/16/2003 02:12:29
    1. [PANORTHA-L] Re Eschenbach
    2. geri brennan
    3. Eschenbach. Samuel A., of Monroe Co., Andrew Eschenbach, his grandfather, spent the greater part of his fife near Phila.., and was living there during the Rev., in which his brother John took part. He engaged in lumbering and in manufacturing hand made shingles. When an old man he came to Tobyhanna township, Monroe Co., where died. His wife's bore the maiden name of Susan Fink, who survived him for some years. Children; David, John, Nathaniel, Andrew, Joseph, Thomas, Samuel, and Polly. Andrew Eschenbach, father of Samuel A., was born near Allentown, Northampton Co., when a young man came to Tobyhanna, married Lydia Bond, a native of Hamilton township, Monroe Co, d/o Lewis and Rachel Bond. She died in 1881, aged 73 and he (Andrew) died 1886 aged 83. Children; Samuel A., Ann, wife of Robert Warner, Marie died in childhood, Martha, the wife of Jacob Bonsor and Henry of Lackawanna County. Samuel A., was born at Tobyhanna, Sept 6, 1834, married at the M.E. Church at Stroudsburg, to Elizabeth Warner, d/o William nad Ellen (Agen) Warner, she died March 8, 1897, aged 54, leaving two children, Margaret, and Howard. Best Wishes, Geri

    10/16/2003 06:55:48
    1. [PANORTHA-L] Re: odds and ends
    2. geri brennan
    3. Lehigh County History Erdell, Francis, s/o John and Christina, was born in Upper Macungie, Lehigh Co, April 10, 1845, married Aug 18, 1866 to Catharine Reinhart, born in S. Whitehall, who was born, in S. Whitehall township, Feb 8, 1846, d/o Ephraim and Mary (Wetzel) Reinhart. Her father was born in Lower Milford, he died in S. Whitehall. His wife was a d/o George Wetzel, who served as a soldier of the Rev. Mrs. Catharine Erdell was the 2nd of a family of 3 children. Her brother, Francis R., married Amanda Frey, and they had two children, Edwin and Kay. Alexander, married Matilda Kerschner, and had one child, Harvey. Esterley, Gkancy Jones, of Salisbury township, was born Jan 17, 1859, in Exter township, Berks Co., s/o Henry A. and Emma Esterly. His father married Emma Quinter, d/o Samuel and Emma (Leaser) Quinter, who died age 64. Children; Glancy J., Jacob of REading, who married Ida Wayne, Howard F., of Reading, Lena, married Charles Hinkle and Katie, who married Wm. Hurd of Birdsboreo. The father of Henry, was George, a natve of Reading, and he married Sarah Rodenbush, of Leesport. Yarnell, Thomas and and Ann nee Hopson. They were English members of the colony, and retured to England in 1766 Moeller, Josehp, of Bethlehem and Nazareth. He married Catharine Koch in 1745. They both died at Bethlehem, he in 1778, she 1798 Best Wishes, Geri

    10/16/2003 05:56:51
    1. [PANORTHA-L] Miller
    2. geri brennan
    3. Miller, William, born at Pittston, Luzerne County, Feb 8, 1800, moved to Wayne Co. (Dyberry township), s/o Peter and Elizabeth (Ward) Miller of Plainfield, PA., both died and were buried at Pittson, where his father was a blacksmith. His maternal grandfather was a native of America, but his maternal great-grandfather was a native of Germany. He was the eldest child and they only one who settled in Wayne Co. The other children, Elizabeth, Margaret Ann, Ann Margaret, Sarah, and Benjamin, all of whom died in Pittson. William married May 5, 1808 to Evalena, d/o William and Susannah Schnoover, who came from NJ. Children; Elizabeth M. (1824-82) who married Henry Palmer. Susannah S., died young. Jacob S., born 1828 of Honesdale. Simon S.S. (1830-64) of Oregon township. Benjamin F. born 1832 of Prompton. Julia S. died young. John W. born 1836, of Dyberry. Andrew Jackson, born 1839 of Oregon township, Mary Jane born 1841, George W., born 1844. Evaline S., born 1847, wife of William Williams. Miller, Nathaniel C.,(M.D.), a son of Philip Miller of Stroudsburg, and a grandson of Charles Miller of Monroe Co, and also the Hon. Jacob Cope of Northampton Co., was born in 1848. Miller, Simon E. (M.D.) was born in Stroud township in 1848, graduate from U of PA, practiced in Monroe Co., for ten years, then moved to Wisconsin. Best Wishes, Geri

    10/16/2003 05:12:17