I just read Geri's email on the Messinger family and found Michael, born 31 Mar 1759, married Elizabeth Stocker, born 15 Aug 1768. I am interested in finding the birth dates for their children who Geri has listed. Does anyone have this information or know where to find it. I just wrote to Geri asking but she is so busy, I thought I would just put it out on the list. Margie

messinger, william p., born sept 21, 1865, s/o peter and sarah (germantown) messinger. his paternal ancestors were irish, having orginally come from cork, and his maternal grandparents were german. john messinger, his grandfather, a native of northampton co, and is buried at forks twp., churchyar. he had 6 children, two sons and 4 daughters, four are still living. peter messinger, father of willim, was born in forks twp. civil war vet. of his 11 children, 4 still survive, r. frederick, william p., david m.b., and john j. f. messinger, reuben, of northampton co. the first of this name to locate here was subject's great-great-grandfather, who crossed the ocean from germany. philip and abigail (bidinger) messinger, parents of subjec, were native of northampton co.., and this too, was the birthplace of subject, dec. 31, 1826. his father died when he was 6 and cared for by his mother, after which he was bound out to his uncle, joseph messinger. mr. messinger married 1848 to mary a., d/o peter elear, of lower mt. bethel. children; 7 lived, emma, w/o james messinger, who died dec. 2, 1894, susam w/o a. rader, stephen, lewis, melinda, sarah j., w/o charles siegfried and amanda, w/o milton sandt. forks messinger, susanna born 1777, died 17 nov. 1814 messinger, philip 1750-1819; wf. margaret; chhildren; george, jacob, catharine w/o george beidler, margaret, rachel, michael. elizabeth, w/o 20 and d/o michael and anna margaret wilhelm, 16 nov 1749-25 nov 1809 margaret, w/o philip born 21 april 1766 elizabeth, w/o michael, born 15 aug 1768, died dec. 1843 michael, born 31 march 1759, died 31 dec, 1842. children, john, jacob, andrew, rebecca w/o melchior mixsell, elizabeth, w/o abraham heinline, sarah, w/o felix hartzell, catharine, w/o germes best, maria w/o francis latic, susanna, anna, w/o jacob kreidler, rosane, michael elizabet, w/o michael, nee sigman, 1759-1782 20. messinger, johannes, 17 april 1746-2 may 1808 montgomery co. missinger, johan balthaser, 28 april 1746, s/o johan ludewig and catharine. sp. balthaeser sahler and wf. northampton co. messinger a. cath. 30 0ct 1773 philip and susanna a. maria 20 may 1799 george and cath. appelona 5 aug 1799 daneil and philipina catharine 14 oct1785 george and cath. dainiel 17 aug 1756 michael and cath elizabeth 4 july 1775 johannes and eliz elizabeth 24 may 1785 michael messinger and elisabeth stecher elizabeth 22 march 1757 michael and cath george 13 july 1799 george and eliz george 25 july 1797 george and cath henrich 24 aug 1782 george and cath jacob 16 aug 1775 philip and susanna jacob 28 dec 1776 john and eliz johannes 4 dec 1773 johannes eliz john 27 april 1800 michael and eliz john george 30 oct 1773 philip and susanna john, twin, 24 march 1787 jacob and maria maria eliz.. ca 1780 george and cath. michael, 31 march 1759 michael and cath peter 19 aug 1798 philip and margaretha philip ca 1750 michael and cath. philip 5 feb 1796 george and eliz. philip, twin, 24 march 1787 jacob and maria sarah 11 april 1782 daniel and cath. susan elizabeth 6 jan 1777 philip and susanna elizabeth susanna 20 march 1794 michael and eliz. Best Wishes, Geri

messinger, simon, of washington twp., northampton co., pa., was born in warren co., n.j. july 21, 1822. s/o george and susanna (simmons) messinger, natives of northampton co. his father was a residnet of lower mt. bethel, at the age of 60 he moved to stephenson co., il. of his children, peter in il., miles of washington twp., zachariah, of warren co., n.j., theodore of iowa, simon, subject, and lucinda, w/o adam young. in dec 1856 simon married lovina wilhelm, who was born in northampton co, april 20, 1833,. her parents were john and susan (gum) wilhelm, natives of northampton co., grandfather wilhelm lived for many years in upper mt. bethel, he had moved from nazareh. mrs. messinger was one of 8 children, jacob, of washington twp., lovina, henry of upper mt. bethel, savilia the widow of charles rutt and theobald of upper mt. bethel mr. and mrs. messinger had children; john, isiah, george, flora a., w/o gilmmer spangenberg, susan, w/o herbert h. slamp, william, lucinda w/o william spangenberg and herbert. members of the emanuel evangelical ch. messnger, samuel s., born in northampton co., pa., june 28, 1823, a descendsnt of swiss ancestors.. his great-grandfather, michael messiner emigrated from europe and in 1743 he settled in northampton co. mr. messinger married to sabin, d/o edward b. shimer, of forks twp. children; james e., g. frank, charles s., and hanna c., w/o william stauffer. frank g. messinger, was born in northampton co, nov. 28, 1848, he married clara, d/o william reinheimer, of palmer twp. children; george, lizzie, carie and rosa. Best Wishes, Geri

history of westmoreland co. smith, james b., of penn twp. was born dec 17, 1859 in coultersville, allegheny co, s/o michael d., and lucinda (painter) smith, and a grandson of michael smith a native of america. he served in the civil war and was killed in the war. michael d. smith, father, was a native of allegheny co., born 1835, he was a pilot on the ohio and mississippi rivers and came to his death by drowning in 1861. his wf. lucinda painter, d/o george; children, mary emma, annie l., james b., and abbie james b. married jan 17, 1884 to prisilla swonger, d/0 jackson and barbara (beighley) swonger of westmoreland co. children; john, peter, samuel, james r. elizabeh, henry, lucinda, louisa, annie, rebecca, marth and margaret mr. and mrs. smith are the parents of the following children; joseph m., minnie b., born april 18, 1886, frank d., born oc 6, 1887, mary e., sept 9, 1889, william mc k., priscilla, james b., jr. northumberland co. smith, jacob w., a native of sunbury. james smith, father of jacob w., was born in reared in bucks oo, he was a soldier of the rev. his wife barbara ann (vanholdt) was from bucks co. they had a large family, but a number of their children died when small. we have a record of jacob w., james of sunbury, john, catharine, w/o william withington, polly who married robert simth smith, james, was born in turbut twp., northumberland co., sept 28, 1848, s/o james r. smith. james smith, his grandfather was a native of northampton co., near bangor, and where he died. he married margaret smith, who also died in northampton co. children; mary died unmarried, isabelle, married samuel horn, elizabeth married john phsher and james r. james r.., s/o james and father of jame h., was born in northampton co. after his marriage he moved to northumberland co. he married margaret young, who was born in northampton co., and died in milton. children, ellen e., w/o samuel long and had 3 children (frank m., laura s., and charles), james h,, mary e., clara a., w/o frank hinshelwood and they lived in seattle, josephine w/o frank bond of phila., and luther c., of selinsgrove, and he had a son (frank) Best Wishes, Geri -----Original Message----- From: martha w. jackson Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 10:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PALEHIGH] messinger Geri, To back up here, first, I believe SHROEDER IS REALLY PRONOUNCED Shrader, of which intermarried into my family, Bird & William/Jacob; We are related to the KLEIN family, but I don't know how; There was one in Yakima, 1940; this PETER WERST and Maria KOCH, are listed in the Will of Adam Romig, N'n Co., Wills; PROBABLY MINE; Elizabeth WENCH/?WERCH???; Kurtz/KUNTZ????; a ____GOOD visited in Yakima, was a relative I think. ca 1940; But that family is married into my P/BUDERBAUGH family, and they were down in the Grandview area; Leah, a name in the family; and the DeHaven name has been bugging me for years, but all I could relate it to was the actress Goria DeHaven. I think and have thought also, that if we just will listen to our conscience, it will give us names. McKinney is one I have been hearing, but I had a grade school principal by that name and ignored it. And among the SMITH family in Westmoreland Co. was a McKinney. I have yet to be able to do anything because I haven't pinpointed my James Brady SMITH's parents yet. I had an article publishd in KENTUCKY ANCESTORS (My 1st one) in which I tried to explain this sorting out of names and spellings by sound, to no avail, it seems, as, when I emailed the Head of the KY History Center re the publication number being dated two years before arrival, I got a short answer. So, I know he has gotten some flack, but there are many, many people who do not know their surnames were spelled in a different way, way back when. I even brought it out that the people who were douing the PA ARCHIVES, had WORTHAMPTON CO., instead of NORTHAMPTON. W/M/N can be taken for each other from deciphering by different people, because they don't realize the possibilities here. I even found a PHITZSIMMONS in Sumner Co., TN, when I was working on an F name. I then wrot a cousin, and she said "No wonder we can't find these people. Only she put an ! after it. After all, could the GRIDER family of Warren Co., KY also be the KREIDER family of PA???? Pure FRUSTRATION. ----- Original Message ----- From: "geri brennan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [PALEHIGH] messinger > okay, maybe this will help > 1790c > worst, henry-cumru twp.-berks co. > > worst, henry-dauphin co. > > kessler, philip-strasburg-lancasterco > kessler, sebastian-strasburg-lancaster co > kessler, andrew-salisbury twp-lancaster co > > worst, peter-salisbury twp-lancaster co > > cramer, john-strasburg-lancaster co > > sell, jacob-york co. > sell, adam-york co > > > shroeder, jacob-york co > shroeder, rev.-york co > worst, jacob-york co > > lancaster co-births > worst > anna margaret 4 feb 1748 jacob and annna dorothy-muddy creek ref. > > heinrich bp 22 june 1755 jacob and __ > records of rev, john waldschmidt > > johann jacob bp 1749 jacob and __ > same > maria juliana bp 6 april 1751 jacob and __ same > > wurst > mary, d/o jacob wurst and anna dorothea bp oct 1, 1746-muddy creek > > john peter wurst, s/o jacob, bp 8 june 1753, sp peter klein and margaret > brunner > > st. james episcopal > 1759 june 13 adam werst (west) to elizabeth wench, license > > `1775 may 1 joseph corel to rebecca hall > > bucks co. > anna maria d/o michael flechser and catharine, born july 2, 1761. sp. > peter werst and maria koch > > martha, as you know, there's a heck of a lot of wertz/werts/wortz/wortz > but very few werst/worst > > lancaster co. history > worst, henry, was born in salisbury twp, s/o henry, sr., and mary (kurtz) > worst > > the worst family was established in lancaster co., about 1760 by 3 > brothers, who came from switzerland, one settling in germantown, one in > cornwall, lebanon co., and one in terre hill, lancaster co. > > the paternal grandparents of mr. worst, subject, were peter and barbara > (weaver) worst > > henry worst sr., of salisbury, was born in 1795 and died at age 89. he > married mary kurtz, d/o samuel and barbara (showalder) kurtz of lancster. > she died in 1843, age 44 and was buried next to her husband on part of the > old farm in a private cemetery.. members of the mennonite ch. children; > barbara married john wanner, peter married maria good, samuel married > nancy kurtz, elias married SUSAN GAYBILL, mary married joseph h. bair, > elizabeth, susanna married daniel kurtz, henry, subject, leah died age 6 > and catharine died at 18 > > henry worst, was a postmaster. he was a member of the presbyterian ch. > > in 1863 he married in providence twp to suusan FRAILEY born in earl twp., > aug. 26, 1838, d/o daniel and anna (long) FRAILICK, the former died in > paradise in 1888 and the latter died 1886 age 61. they were resoecuvkey > members of the mennonite and dunkard churchs, and they were interred in > mellinger's cemetery. their chldren were joseph, daniel of harrisburg, > married lillie herr, anna married henry brown of paradise, rebecca widow > of elias herman of lancaster, abby married john wright of lancaster, susan > w/o henry worst. her maternal grandparnts were jonathan and susan (reno) > long. > > children of mr. and mrs. worst; catharine, widow of clayton de haven; > clayton married margaret bowers, henry married mazie kurtz and anna, > > Best Wishes, Geri > > > -----Original Message----- > From: martha w. jackson > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 7:41 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PALEHIGH] messinger > > Got an email back from Roberta Eddy, in which she located Peter WIRTH & > wife, Magdelena, and several others. But the person at the courthouse in > Bucks, sent a much later list of WERST down almost to today. AND!BUCKS CUT > FROM LANCASTER, DIDN'T KNOW THAT. THAT MAY BE WHY I AM SO FAMILIAR WITH > peter worst of Lancaster, and his shenannigans. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "geri brennan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 7:41 AM > Subject: [PALEHIGH] messinger > > >> geranic immigrants in pa. ship lists >> >> the ship pink johnson arrived sept. 19, 1732. the archives gives 110 >> names, this photostat show 112. there are many errors. behn should be >> bohn, beer, bey, rouse, rauch, coplinger, keplinger, etc. john moesinger >> settled in bucks co. with him was his son michael messinger, born nov 17, >> 1719, who first settled in bucks co and later in forks twp., northampton >> co., where he had a grist mill, became prominent and was member of the >> county committe of obseration in the rev. he died oct. 24, 1791. he was >> the ancstor of one of the members of our excutive committee and has many >> descendans in northampton co. >> >> Best Wishes, Geri >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

okay, maybe this will help 1790c worst, henry-cumru twp.-berks co. worst, henry-dauphin co. kessler, philip-strasburg-lancasterco kessler, sebastian-strasburg-lancaster co kessler, andrew-salisbury twp-lancaster co worst, peter-salisbury twp-lancaster co cramer, john-strasburg-lancaster co sell, jacob-york co. sell, adam-york co shroeder, jacob-york co shroeder, rev.-york co worst, jacob-york co lancaster co-births worst anna margaret 4 feb 1748 jacob and annna dorothy-muddy creek ref. heinrich bp 22 june 1755 jacob and __ records of rev, john waldschmidt johann jacob bp 1749 jacob and __ same maria juliana bp 6 april 1751 jacob and __ same wurst mary, d/o jacob wurst and anna dorothea bp oct 1, 1746-muddy creek john peter wurst, s/o jacob, bp 8 june 1753, sp peter klein and margaret brunner st. james episcopal 1759 june 13 adam werst (west) to elizabeth wench, license `1775 may 1 joseph corel to rebecca hall bucks co. anna maria d/o michael flechser and catharine, born july 2, 1761. sp. peter werst and maria koch martha, as you know, there's a heck of a lot of wertz/werts/wortz/wortz but very few werst/worst lancaster co. history worst, henry, was born in salisbury twp, s/o henry, sr., and mary (kurtz) worst the worst family was established in lancaster co., about 1760 by 3 brothers, who came from switzerland, one settling in germantown, one in cornwall, lebanon co., and one in terre hill, lancaster co. the paternal grandparents of mr. worst, subject, were peter and barbara (weaver) worst henry worst sr., of salisbury, was born in 1795 and died at age 89. he married mary kurtz, d/o samuel and barbara (showalder) kurtz of lancster. she died in 1843, age 44 and was buried next to her husband on part of the old farm in a private cemetery.. members of the mennonite ch. children; barbara married john wanner, peter married maria good, samuel married nancy kurtz, elias married SUSAN GAYBILL, mary married joseph h. bair, elizabeth, susanna married daniel kurtz, henry, subject, leah died age 6 and catharine died at 18 henry worst, was a postmaster. he was a member of the presbyterian ch. in 1863 he married in providence twp to suusan FRAILEY born in earl twp., aug. 26, 1838, d/o daniel and anna (long) FRAILICK, the former died in paradise in 1888 and the latter died 1886 age 61. they were resoecuvkey members of the mennonite and dunkard churchs, and they were interred in mellinger's cemetery. their chldren were joseph, daniel of harrisburg, married lillie herr, anna married henry brown of paradise, rebecca widow of elias herman of lancaster, abby married john wright of lancaster, susan w/o henry worst. her maternal grandparnts were jonathan and susan (reno) long. children of mr. and mrs. worst; catharine, widow of clayton de haven; clayton married margaret bowers, henry married mazie kurtz and anna, Best Wishes, Geri -----Original Message----- From: martha w. jackson Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 7:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PALEHIGH] messinger Got an email back from Roberta Eddy, in which she located Peter WIRTH & wife, Magdelena, and several others. But the person at the courthouse in Bucks, sent a much later list of WERST down almost to today. AND!BUCKS CUT FROM LANCASTER, DIDN'T KNOW THAT. THAT MAY BE WHY I AM SO FAMILIAR WITH peter worst of Lancaster, and his shenannigans. ----- Original Message ----- From: "geri brennan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: [PALEHIGH] messinger > geranic immigrants in pa. ship lists > > the ship pink johnson arrived sept. 19, 1732. the archives gives 110 > names, this photostat show 112. there are many errors. behn should be > bohn, beer, bey, rouse, rauch, coplinger, keplinger, etc. john moesinger > settled in bucks co. with him was his son michael messinger, born nov 17, > 1719, who first settled in bucks co and later in forks twp., northampton > co., where he had a grist mill, became prominent and was member of the > county committe of obseration in the rev. he died oct. 24, 1791. he was > the ancstor of one of the members of our excutive committee and has many > descendans in northampton co. > > Best Wishes, Geri > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

montgomery co. bean, theodore weber. the ancestors of theodore w. bean, james and mary bean, came from wales to pa.about 1700. the line of descent from james and mary bean is through their son john bean, born in pa., where he died in 1799, aged 76. the line continues through his only child jesse bean, born jan. 26, 1761, married hannah lane, d/o edward lane, died july 28, 1847. william bean, eldest son of jesse and hanna, was born nov 11, 1788, died jan. 29, 1855. he married mary weber, born nov 18, 1794, died march 10, 1889, d/o john weber, granddau. of christian(2) weber, and great-granddau. of christian (1) weber, born in amsterdam, holland., in 1697. came to america in the ship good will, march 6, 1727. christian weber owned land in worcester twp. in 1732, took the oath 1734, he died june 15, 1775. his son, christian (2), born april 20,k 1744,died june 20, 1815, srv in the rev'. john weber, s/o christian (2) died 1815, aged 46. he was a member of the pa. legislature from 1808 to 1811, speaker, 1811 weber, jacob, worcester, june 29, 1791. christian weber, abraham weber, benjamin weber, eve weber, admins. weber, john, lower providence. sept. 2, 1815. george weber, christian weber, william bean, admins. northampton co 18 march 1805, estate of christian weber, macungie twp., died about 18 years ago, widow now deceased. children john eldest son, chriistian still under 21 20 jan 1809, guardian for minor child of john weber, macungie twp. (left one child) petitioner, christian weber, admin., and brother of deceased child, litty, under age 14 and i've already put up the rev. war. Best Wishes, Geri -----Original Message----- From: diane adams Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:55 AM To: geri brennan Subject: Re: Christian and Jacob Weaver Geri, Thanks so much for your helpful reply. Sorry I did not see it until today. I made a copy of the whole thing and will study it as more of our family may be listed. My Jacob did serve in the Rev War out of Bucks County under ... Erwin (I forget his first name) and now there is a town called Erwinna in Tinicum Twsp named after him. The trouble is Jacob's correct birthdate. The date I have could be right but there doesn't seem to be any proof. Christian does look like a likely candidate (and when he died his wife was listed as Barbara) so I thought maybe his children were listed with birth dates in some church records. I have a lot of birth records for Bucks county but not for Northampton. His will does list them as Henry, Jacob, Moses, Ann Elizabeth, Mary, Charity, Eva Jane, and Rosinna and many of these names were used again for Jacob's children. In Tinicum they attended a Presbyterian church but others in the family may have been Lutheran. For some reason I don't think they were German but may have been Scotch. No proof though. You are correct - there were many ways to spell Weaver and there are many Jacob Weavers all over the place! There was a Christian Webber who arrived in Philadelphia about the right time who could be the Christian above. (At the moment I can't find this data. Since it is speculative I didn't enter it into the computer.) For what it's worth the SAR record application was submitted in 1929 and says Jacob was born in Harrisonville, VA. This flies against everything else I've heard but perhaps I should pursue it. Thank you again for all your time and trouble. I really appreciate it! If you should ever need records for Bucks County I have quite a few, especially cemetery records so just let me know. Yours, Diane in CO geri brennan <[email protected]> wrote: hi, its hard because weaver turns to weber, weber to weaver, weavers married webers. rev. war weaver jacob srv at lt. rec'd blw. 14 march 1794 to amos taylor, admin. of soldier's estate jacob, pension, soldier enlisted at shippensburg in cumberland co,, applied in adams co. jacob or jacob weavor, blw. see jacob weavor weavor, jacob, srv as capt. in pa. lines, blw, june 6,1791, no papers no jacob weber. service weaver jacob, german regt of cont. troops jacob 3rd. pa. as pvt jacob, lt. and capt. 3rd pa jacob,ensign 4th pa jacob, 7th pa, as pvt. jacob, 10th pa. as capt burials weber chriist union ch. cem, shoenersvill, lehigh co jacob old cem, friedensville, lehigh co. weaver, jacob, none weber, john, zion's stone cem. kreidersville, northampton, pa. phila. co weber jacob 24 june 1762 george and susanna weaver, jacob, none weber john jacob 7 feb 1767 john leonhard and m. elizabeth john jacob 12 july 1775 peter and anna weaver, jacob, none montgomery co weaver, jacob 27 11m 1757 nicholas and susanna weber jacob 26 july 1771 leonard and anna cath. jacob 23 jan 1774 jacob and anna lehigh co weber jacob 5 march 1750 johannes and sara jacob 25 jan 1748 tobias and margareha jacob 1 jan 1769 melcher and mgt jacob 21 march 1782 johannes and mgt johan jacob 16 april 1785 ulrich weaver, jacob, none northampton co weber jacob 22 march 1781 john william and mary agnes berks co weber jacob 22 march 1757 caspar and christina bucks co. weaver damiel bp 26 aug 1792 jacob and no named halliday bp 6 oct 1788 same parents moses by may 10, 1772 same no name bp 1 july 1770 same weber jacob 10 april 1780 john jost and cath jacob 30 april 1797 martin and w johan jacob 16 aprill 1785 ulrich and wf john jacob 15 feb 1773 matin and cath john jacob 26 oct 176 baltzer and barbara 23 oct 1800, estate of casper kessler, lower saucon twp. (died about 1778) petitioner; john shaefer, lower saucon admin; peter leith, said twp legatees; susanna weaver and jacob weaver (with others) 11 nov 1800, estate of henry weavr, upper saucon petitioners; philip bahl, abraham seider, execs. 22 dec 1774 estate of george weaver, complaint by minor children's guardians, john newcomer and gratius larch, children, catharine, valentine, mary "their father george weaver died in the lifetime of his father frederick weaver which said frederick is since dead leaving a considerable personal and real estate. jacob weaver, eldest son of frederick accepeted the land and was to pay other heirs a share 24 may 1775, response to complaint of weaver children on 22 dec 1774 concerning the estate of frederick weaver, their grandfather, against their uncle jacob weaver. bucks co jacob weaver, march, 1752 dau. charlotte (age 18) petitons for guardian. elias bidelman appointed. 4 children; sarah, catharine, elizabeth and charlotte christian weaver tinicum twp. widow not mentioned. left one child; harrison, (about 2 years old). petition for guardian by his friend jacob weaver. william erwin, esq., appointed. jan. 1, 1818 harrison erwin weaver, over 14, petitions for guardian. guardina william erwin wishes to resign. isaac weaver appointed may 27 1822 jacob weaver, petiton by dau, mary, w/o joseph heany, execs. john, moses and william weaver are insolven. 1823 legacy to wilson bergstress, over 14, son of philip. john matts guardian phila co. weaver, jacob, bucks co. proved 16 feb 1775, wf magdalena. children; jacob, dorothy, john, george and henry. stepdau; barbara; grandchild magdeline, d/o jacob berks co hochgenung, hannah, amity twp. jan 20, 1774.adm... to jacob weaver who married elizabeth, one of the daus of said. weaver, (weber) peter of amity, proved april 11, 1789. wf barbara, all mony and personal estate. to son jacob 5s, having releasd unto my real estate. to eldest dau. eva, wf of john david 150pd, to 2nd dau, elizabeth, wf of john schrack 5s, having re'd her portions, to grandson daniel leman, son of my 3rd dau., catharine, deceased, late wf of daniel leman 300pds when he is 21. 4th dau. christina, wf of philip boyer, 5s., 5t dau, magdalena wf of peter mowrer5s weaver. barbara of amity, aug 13, 1805. admin to jacob weaver, only son maurer, peter of amity, jan 13, 1809 admin to jacob weaver, jr., a relative weber. elizabeth, widow of jacob, of amity, sept 28, 1816. weber, henry of tulpehocken, may 3, 1815.. son jacob devised farm in bethel, son peter devised farm in tulpehocken, mentions maraaretha, d/o of his son henry. names children, henry, philip, john, jacob, peter, elizabeth and catharine Best Wishes, Geri --------------------------------- From: diane adams Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2006 10:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Christian and Jacob Weaver Hello, Geri, I can't help noticing that you have been very helpful to many who post on Northampton and Lehigh rootsweb pages. It make me wonder if you have some source - perhaps compiled lists - where you can look these up. If so ----- I wonder if you would mind looking up my line. Jacob Weaver was my ancestor and many reports say he was born 12 Apr 1746. However, all these reports seem to go back to the same SAR record as proof and that record is full of errors. So I am looking for something more reliable like church records. I did find a will for a Christian Weaver who died in Mt Bethel Township, Northampton, in 1783 and he looks like a likely candidate for Jacob's father since both families used the same given names for their children. And, if you have time, would you also please look for Hannah Harrison. She was Jacob's first wife and I can find nothing on her. If you find Christian's family perhaps Hannah's is nearby. Jacob spent his adult life in Tinicum, Bucks County, and is said (?) to have been born in Bucks but at that time Northampton was part of Bucks so it would still fit. If you can shed any light on this family I would be so greatly indebted to you! Thank you for your time. Diane in CO --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near historic lows: $150,000 loan as low as $579/mo. Intro-*Terms --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

forks twp uhler, valentine 15 may 1754-5 nov 1838 christina his wf. 23 feb 1764-6 oct 1831 eastpm rippel, andreas 5 july 1746-7 march 1817 children; john, peter, catharine w/o john krotz, elizabeth, w/o andrew uhler, maerath w/o michael butz anna maria, 1758- uhler, anna w/o andreas, 25 march, 1749-8 oct 1834 rev. war vets-burials uhler, christoper, mt. lebanon cem. lebanon, lebanon co. pa. rev. war-pensions uhler, andrew, navy service and pa. line srv. rachael bones former widow, r1004. soldier married regina "rachel", d/o john weismann on 18 feb 1772, both were from phila. soldier died 10 feb 1798 and his widow married 2nd to samuel bones on 27 aug 1801 and he died in 1820. widow applied 1837 in phila. co aged 83.john uhler of northern liberties in phila. co. state he knew soldier before and after the rev. war of 1812 uhler andrew, md. mil. david, md. mil george wf elizabeth, pa. mil jacob, md. mil john, wf sarah, md. mil. bucks co. sept 10, 1827, jacob uhler, durham twp. widow margaret. children, peter, john, michael, mary. margaret and ann over 14. john boyer, solomon bachman, george laubough, john knight and jacob, guaridan. 7 children; peter, john, michael, 3 minors, philipina w/o jacob addams, margaret, ann and mary 3 minors Best Wishes, Geri

15 april 1802 guardian for minor son of jaob messinger, forks twp. child, michael, over age 14, the petitioner guardian, frederic lerch same dat guardian for minor son of jacob messinger, forks twp. child, pahilp, over age 14, the petitioner guardian, valentine uhler 15 april 1802 guardians for 5 minor children of jacob messinger, forks twp. a miller, (all under 14) (had other children) widow, margaret, the petitioner admin. john messinger children; isaac, jacob, henry, margaret, john guardians; for isaac, jacob, henry-rudolph sweitzer for margaret, john-john werkheiser 20 jan 1809 estate of jacob ulher, forks twp. execs; jacob uhler and henry uhler 25 april 1815 estate of peter breidinger, plainfield twp. heirs, jacob breidinger, a son, valentine uhler, husband of dau. elizabeth, michael breidinger, guardian of susanna, adam, eve, christina, minor children of the deceased. deed for 400pds, 26 april 1777 granors; maagdalena uhler, forks twp, widow of valentine uhler, deceased charles heimer, plainfield twp, wf. mgt jacob uhler, forks twp john oberley (overlee) wf elizabeth-saucon valentine uhler (faldin uler) forks twp (margaret heimer, jacob uhler, elizabeth oberley, and valentine uhler were surviving children of valentine uhler, deceased) grantee, andrew uhler and henry uhler, both of forks twp (2 sons of the deceased) bucks co. velker, magd. 14 april 1751, adam and dorotha. sp valentine uhler, maria magd uhler, catharine rinker john valentine uhler 25 april 1755, s/o john valentine and maria magd. uhler, andrew, 31 dec 1784, s/o valentine and christina uhler, sp. andrw uhler and wf. germanic immigrants anastasius uhler, was born in the palatinate abou t710. he settked in lancaster co and died in lebanon co in 1769. he was contable of lebanon twp. in 1769 lebanon co uhler 1. michael uhler of lebanon twp. died july, 1802, leaving a wife anna maria and children, john, __ married george tieman, anastatius, philip, born 1783, maria barbara, born 1786 uhler, john of lebanon twp. probably another brother; died 1805 leaving children, elizabeth, catharine, barbara, john lebanon co-heidelberg two. 1752, crist, george zell, maria, h.z. born 1789, died dec 24, 1856 zell, elizabeth w/o a.z. june 26, 1789, died may 8, 1838 zell, levi a. died sept 19, 1853 age 39 zell, henry a. died sept 19, 1853 age 27 1845-south annville, john uhler uhler, mary magdalena born may 31, 1803, died oct 3, 1851 Best Wishes, Geri

recorded at easton jan 9, 1787 mr. moessinger sr., to widow elizabeth butz feb 1, 1795 mr. beuller to elizabeth moessinger, d/o philip 1798 july 29 michael messinger to elizabeth uhler 1800 may 14 jacob messinger to anna maria michael. 1803 jan 27 william bier to magd. kesler (/) 1803 sept 4 christian gressman to charlotta messinger 1804 oct 10 isaac kind to eliz. messinger 1807 march 1 abraham messinger to margaretha kaemrer 1807 april 5 john lerch to rosina messinger 1810 john kessler to sarah stocker 1810 oct 7 william lerch to maria messinger 1810 nov 11 isaac stenger to susan deily 1811 march 3 henry werkhaeuser to cath. arnold 1817 dec 28 daniel derr to rebecca coleman 1823 dec 7 melchoir meixsell to magraret messinger 1832 dec 25 charles messinger to nancy buntin 1835 nov 7 joseph derr to lena snyder 1838 dec 27 george hackman to julian derr 1841 nov 23 jacob kreidler to ann messinger 1842 nov 27 william herzel to matilda messinger 1843 march 23 reuben eckert to margaret arnold 1850 dec 20 philip miller to levina derr 1799 no date maria magd. messinger, at greenwich age 57y 8m 20d 1808 may 1 john messinger-stocker's age 62y 1m aug 13 peter messinger-arndt's 6y 6m 1809 sept 1 michael messinger-messinger's 22y 5m 7d 1811 john h. derr-dryland age 69y 5m 22d 1819 april 11 elizabeth derr, saucon age 45y 11m 5d 1819 aug 9 catharine derr, dryland, aged 71y 3m 21d 1827 dec 30 susanna derr-saucon age 43y 11m 27d 1828 june 16 john messinger-forks 29y 2m 24d 1828 sept 5 samuel coleman-easton aged 67 1833 march 6 absolon messinger-william 25y 9m 1d 1841 oct 15 christian heiney-dryland age 86y 9m 5d Best Wishes, Geri

Lew: Listening in from Mississauga, ON. God bless! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "lew messinger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [PANORTHA] Attention descendants of the Michael Messinger (born 1719) Family of Northampton County > If yer pressed for time, go for it. Once Im back to Germany from > Iraq, I > have a plan to visit Reutlingen once more, as well as Basel, and > hopefully > can turn something definitive up. I, too, have not come up with > anything > definitive about Basel. Reutlingen's history is loaded with > Messingers. > There is an obituary I read one time, Samuel Shimer Messinger (d. > 1900) or > his son, G Frank (d. 1932 I think), of 'Messinger Manufacturing" fame > that > refers to their immigrant's hailing from Basel. It has to be in the > history > for one reason or another. If anything, the family could have got > their > riverboat to Rotterdam from there. Im uncertain whether Michael Sr > was > actually born there. Please keep me in the loop. Thanks. > > Lew Messinger > > (Ramadi, Iraq)

geranic immigrants in pa. ship lists the ship pink johnson arrived sept. 19, 1732. the archives gives 110 names, this photostat show 112. there are many errors. behn should be bohn, beer, bey, rouse, rauch, coplinger, keplinger, etc. john moesinger settled in bucks co. with him was his son michael messinger, born nov 17, 1719, who first settled in bucks co and later in forks twp., northampton co., where he had a grist mill, became prominent and was member of the county committe of obseration in the rev. he died oct. 24, 1791. he was the ancstor of one of the members of our excutive committee and has many descendans in northampton co. Best Wishes, Geri

Lew you keep safe over there. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "lew messinger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [PANORTHA] Attention descendants of the Michael Messinger (born 1719) Family of Northampton County > If yer pressed for time, go for it. Once Im back to Germany from Iraq, I > have a plan to visit Reutlingen once more, as well as Basel, and hopefully > can turn something definitive up. I, too, have not come up with anything > definitive about Basel. Reutlingen's history is loaded with Messingers. > There is an obituary I read one time, Samuel Shimer Messinger (d. 1900) or > his son, G Frank (d. 1932 I think), of 'Messinger Manufacturing" fame that > refers to their immigrant's hailing from Basel. It has to be in the > history > for one reason or another. If anything, the family could have got their > riverboat to Rotterdam from there. Im uncertain whether Michael Sr was > actually born there. Please keep me in the loop. Thanks. > > Lew Messinger > > (Ramadi, Iraq) > > >>From: [email protected] >>To: Northampton List <[email protected]>, Lehigh List >><[email protected]>, Robert Jones - Messinger Contact >><[email protected]>, lew messinger <[email protected]>, Messinger List >><[email protected]>, [email protected], " Carl H. Bloss" >><[email protected]> >>Subject: Attention descendants of the Michael Messinger (born 1719) Family >>of Northampton County Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:01:48 -0600 (CST) >> >>Attention Descendants of Michael Messinger, who was born in 1719, and his >>family that arrived in Philadelphia in 1732, and died in Forks Township, >>Northampton County, PA in 1791 >> >>I am wondering if anyone has definitive records to show where the >>Messinger >>family emigrated from. I have often heard Basel, Switzerland tossed >>around >>as a possibility, but so far I haven?t been able to find anyone with >>records from Basel to support that. A little while ago I came across an >>interesting website. The people on the website had joined together to >>commission a researcher in Germany to find the origins of their family. I >>was wondering if there would be any interest in doing the same for our >>Michael Messinger. Although such research is very expensive (the one I >>saw >>was over $700), if we can get a lot of people to contribute we can >>drastically lower the price of the research. For example, if it would >>cost >>$700 and 7 people contributed, that would only be $100 each. If we got 14 >>people, it would only $50 each, and so on. Some researchers also have a >>policy that they only collect payment if the search is successful, thus >>meaning that there is no risk for the people commissioning the research. >>This email is only meant to test the waters. If we pool our resources we >>stand a far greater chance of being able to find the exact place our >>family >>came from than if we all go it alone. Please let me know if you have any >>interest in undertaking such a project. If you do, and have any >>suggestions as to possible researchers or organizations to hire that would >>be much appreciated as well. Hope to hear from you all soon! >> >>~Michael Messinger~ >> >>My Messinger line: Michael (b.1719), Jacob (1748), Isaac (1789), Elias >>(1822), William E. (1859), Claude C. (1883), John (1922, my grandfather) >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces > friends module. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk > > > > PAGenWeb Northampton > http://pa-roots.com/~northampton/ > > PAGenWeb ~ Bucks County > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabucks > > Bucks County History and Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buckscounty > > Pennsylvania GenWeb > http://www.pagenweb.org > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A direct link to information in Basel - via Swiss roots if you are interested. http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/kant/baallg-e.htm Lori -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [PANORTHA] Attention descendants of the Michael Messinger (born 1719) Family of Northampton County If yer pressed for time, go for it. Once Im back to Germany from Iraq, I have a plan to visit Reutlingen once more, as well as Basel, and hopefully can turn something definitive up. I, too, have not come up with anything definitive about Basel. Reutlingen's history is loaded with Messingers. There is an obituary I read one time, Samuel Shimer Messinger (d. 1900) or his son, G Frank (d. 1932 I think), of 'Messinger Manufacturing" fame that refers to their immigrant's hailing from Basel. It has to be in the history for one reason or another. If anything, the family could have got their riverboat to Rotterdam from there. Im uncertain whether Michael Sr was actually born there. Please keep me in the loop. Thanks. Lew Messinger (Ramadi, Iraq) >From: [email protected] >To: Northampton List <[email protected]>, Lehigh List ><[email protected]>, Robert Jones - Messinger Contact ><[email protected]>, lew messinger <[email protected]>, Messinger List ><[email protected]>, [email protected], " Carl H. Bloss" ><[email protected]> >Subject: Attention descendants of the Michael Messinger (born 1719) Family >of Northampton County Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:01:48 -0600 (CST) > >Attention Descendants of Michael Messinger, who was born in 1719, and his >family that arrived in Philadelphia in 1732, and died in Forks Township, >Northampton County, PA in 1791 > >I am wondering if anyone has definitive records to show where the Messinger >family emigrated from. I have often heard Basel, Switzerland tossed around >as a possibility, but so far I haven?t been able to find anyone with >records from Basel to support that. A little while ago I came across an >interesting website. The people on the website had joined together to >commission a researcher in Germany to find the origins of their family. I >was wondering if there would be any interest in doing the same for our >Michael Messinger. Although such research is very expensive (the one I saw >was over $700), if we can get a lot of people to contribute we can >drastically lower the price of the research. For example, if it would cost >$700 and 7 people contributed, that would only be $100 each. If we got 14 >people, it would only $50 each, and so on. Some researchers also have a >policy that they only collect payment if the search is successful, thus >meaning that there is no risk for the people commissioning the research. >This email is only meant to test the waters. If we pool our resources we >stand a far greater chance of being able to find the exact place our family >came from than if we all go it alone. Please let me know if you have any >interest in undertaking such a project. If you do, and have any >suggestions as to possible researchers or organizations to hire that would >be much appreciated as well. Hope to hear from you all soon! > >~Michael Messinger~ > >My Messinger line: Michael (b.1719), Jacob (1748), Isaac (1789), Elias >(1822), William E. (1859), Claude C. (1883), John (1922, my grandfather) > _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk PAGenWeb Northampton http://pa-roots.com/~northampton/ PAGenWeb ~ Bucks County http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabucks Bucks County History and Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buckscounty Pennsylvania GenWeb http://www.pagenweb.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Hello All, I scanned and uploaded another 20 pages of the book "Pennsylvania Colony and Commonwealth". For those interested in reading the book it's at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Vansant and related families -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/536 - Release Date: 11/16/2006 3:51 PM

montgomery co. maria magdalena,, sept. 18, 1744, d/o ulrich christ. sp friederich marsteller, and wf. anna barbara, and maria julina basler berks co johannes, april 25, 1766 s/o john heinrich and apollona christ johannes, 27 march 1776, s/o henrich and catharine christ. sp johannes otto and catharine benjamin aug 11 1782, s/o heinrich and catharine christ, jr. sp heinrich christ, sr. magdelan aug 2, 1786 d/o jacob christ and susanna, sp. michael lutz david, june 21, 1788, s/o jacob christ and susanna, sp jacob grauel and catherine gossler, friedrich of reading to susannachrist of reading march 9, 1779 christ, jacob of reading, 2nd son of henry, esq., to susanna gross, of maxatawny, d/o john, deceased, sept. 27, 1785 christ, daniel of reading, youngest son of henry to catharine miller of reading, oldest dau of philip april 5, 1790 george christ, 2nd son of michael of exter to esther kaufman, oldest d/o johann of maidencreek, june 11, 1793 george rahn of orwigsburg to maria christ, orwigsburg, schuylkill co, dec21, 1812 francisica, dec 30, 1790 john christ, esq. and elisabeth, sp daniel and catharine christ thomas, nov 8, 1790 daniel and catharine christ. sp philip and elizabeth miller magdalena, july 15, 1791 john christ, esq. and elizabeth, sp philip kraemer, esq jacob, dec 20, 1791 s/o jacob christ and susanna, sp. the father elizabeth, may 5, 1793 d/o john christ, esq., and elizabeth, sp. daniel ludwig, esq and eva hanna, march 12, 1794, henrich christ and elizabeth. sp. leonhard foehler and hanna solomon dec 1, 1796 jacob and susanna chriist edmund, bp march 25, 1798 john christ and wife. sp. henry beyer and wf. esther, july 13, 1800 jacob christ and susanna susanna nov 6, 1804 jacob christ and elizabeth, sp susanna christ hrist, john heinrich, jr. leaves a widow and 3 sons, died dec 24, 1784, buried dec 26, 1784, aged 29y 10m 3w 5d christ, heinrch sr., esq, died aug 13, 1789 aged 68y 6m 2w 3d christ, appollonia, relict of heinrch nee richter, born in hatten, bp jan 30, 1721, died july 8, 1805 age 84y about 6m Best Wishes, Geri

18 june 1776, george christ, deceased, late of heidelberg, app/o henry pfeffer (who is married to elizabeth christ, the late widow); the applicant requests an allowance for schooling, clothing and maintaining the children, anna margaret (for one yer) maria magdalena (for 3years) and anna catharine (for 5 years). 11 feb 1763, jacob krist, deceased, late of manor twp. pet./o eldest son of andreas krist. father died intestate. left several children, including some yet minors 3 march 1763, jacob krist, deceased of manor, minor child; jacob, m.c. peter, m.c. maria and anna distr; other heirs,the widow, anna, andreas, eldest son, elizabeth, jacob, peter, maria, ann march 1763 george crist, deceased, adm to john weiser and george conrad. distr. to widow (not named) elizabeth, eldest dau. catharine, 2nd dau., margaret, 3rd dau., maria magdalena 4th dau., anna catharine Best Wishes, Geri

sorry i lost the e-mail war of 1818 crist george, wf. mary updike, married 7 aug 1810 northumberland co., pa., srv buell's and kelsey's co's. n.y. lived in franklin and decatur ctys, in. george, wf harriet b. (potts) married 1 oct 1848 sullivan co. mo. jacob or as jacob christ, wf. anna elizabeth (eckhart) married 29 nov 1850 in germantown, ohio, soldier died 17 feb 1872, widow died 16 jan 1899, ohio mil. william, old wars christ george, wf elizabeth (beaverling) married 10 june 1810 lebanon co. pa. soldier died 3 dec 1865 jonestown, pa. jacob or as jacob crist thomas, wf mary, srv. moore, pa. mil. rev. wa christ, abraham or as abraham crist, n.y. christ, baltes, 3rd pa. christ, henry srv as a capt in col. samuel miles rifle regt in pa. troops christ, adam, soldier was a sgt in the rev. army and was pensioned from 4 march 1789, his papers burned in the war office fire of 1800 or 1814 christ, henry, pa. line, applied 1841 in lancaster co., pa. age 80 and upwards. soldier lived in berks co about 20 miles from reading. christ, lawrence or lorentx, pa. line, applied 1841 in columbia co. age 79. soldier lived in berks co., pa, one henry christ made aff'dt in 1841 lancaster, pa christ, philip, pa. line, applied 1833 botetourt co., va. aged upwards of 74. soldier eas born in berks co soldier was born 1759 in long swamp. berks co. shoemaker, jacob-reading-sept. 13. 1783.. adm. to henry christ jr., and catharine, his wf., the eldest dau. of said intest. christ, henry, jr.-reading, feb 25, 1785. adm. to catharine christ, widow christ, henry-reading, sept 5 1789. adm. to appolonia, the widow, jacob, a son, and jacob graul, a s-i-l christ, johannes to susanna kopp of exter, marc 4, 1792 christ, jacob to catharine ludwig of exter, april 8, 1792 christ,, jacob to hanna plannir* of exter june 25, 1805 rohrbach, christofel to elizabeth christ of district, nov 26, 1805 christ, micahel born oct, 1730, buried sept 29, 1804, 74y less 2 weeks christ, jacob, his wife, born nov 11, 1779, buried dec 26, 1804 aged 25y 1m 12d lancaster/berks christ, ernest william to anna maria schmidt, march 16, 1767 northampton co. christ indexed also crist deed poll, 27 april 1769, sold for 80pds (pages 130-132 in deed book) grantors; peter brown, maxetawany twp., berks co., a tailor and wf appolina (late widow of marks christ, northampton co. valeentine christ (crist) maxetawnyy twp. berks co. blacksmit george meil (miehl, mihl) heidelberg twp and wf rosina henry geissler (gessler) heildberg twp and wf susanna margaret christ, maxetawy twp. a spinster catharine christ, maxetwany twp.. a spinster elizabeth christ, whitehall twp. spinster (valentine, rosina, susanna, margaret, catharine and elizabeth were the children and only surviving issue of marks christ by his wf. appolonia. lehigh co krist anna c. 26 july 1791 heinrich and elizabeth johann j. 22 sept 1789 same parenrs johann p. 19 july 1786 same johannes 18 jan 1785 same crist johhann f. wii. 9 sept 1787 johan h. and elizabeth lancaster co. crist, william edward, was born in decatur, ill. dec. 1, 1860, s.o samuel and mary j. crist. the first rep. of the family was john martin crist, who with his wf. anna catrina, came from germany and settled near what is now elizabethtownn, lancaster, sept. 15, 1729 george h. crist, the paternal grandfather of subject ws born in chambersburg, franklin co. about 1810. member of united brethren ch. he married anna gerhardt of franklin co. william edward marriied 1881 to ida c. only dau. of samuel and nancy smith. children; elva s., edward nev., nan. c. janet and samuel Best Wishes, Geri

If yer pressed for time, go for it. Once Im back to Germany from Iraq, I have a plan to visit Reutlingen once more, as well as Basel, and hopefully can turn something definitive up. I, too, have not come up with anything definitive about Basel. Reutlingen's history is loaded with Messingers. There is an obituary I read one time, Samuel Shimer Messinger (d. 1900) or his son, G Frank (d. 1932 I think), of 'Messinger Manufacturing" fame that refers to their immigrant's hailing from Basel. It has to be in the history for one reason or another. If anything, the family could have got their riverboat to Rotterdam from there. Im uncertain whether Michael Sr was actually born there. Please keep me in the loop. Thanks. Lew Messinger (Ramadi, Iraq) >From: [email protected] >To: Northampton List <[email protected]>, Lehigh List ><[email protected]>, Robert Jones - Messinger Contact ><[email protected]>, lew messinger <[email protected]>, Messinger List ><[email protected]>, [email protected], " Carl H. Bloss" ><[email protected]> >Subject: Attention descendants of the Michael Messinger (born 1719) Family >of Northampton County Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:01:48 -0600 (CST) > >Attention Descendants of Michael Messinger, who was born in 1719, and his >family that arrived in Philadelphia in 1732, and died in Forks Township, >Northampton County, PA in 1791 > >I am wondering if anyone has definitive records to show where the Messinger >family emigrated from. I have often heard Basel, Switzerland tossed around >as a possibility, but so far I haven?t been able to find anyone with >records from Basel to support that. A little while ago I came across an >interesting website. The people on the website had joined together to >commission a researcher in Germany to find the origins of their family. I >was wondering if there would be any interest in doing the same for our >Michael Messinger. Although such research is very expensive (the one I saw >was over $700), if we can get a lot of people to contribute we can >drastically lower the price of the research. For example, if it would cost >$700 and 7 people contributed, that would only be $100 each. If we got 14 >people, it would only $50 each, and so on. Some researchers also have a >policy that they only collect payment if the search is successful, thus >meaning that there is no risk for the people commissioning the research. >This email is only meant to test the waters. If we pool our resources we >stand a far greater chance of being able to find the exact place our family >came from than if we all go it alone. Please let me know if you have any >interest in undertaking such a project. If you do, and have any >suggestions as to possible researchers or organizations to hire that would >be much appreciated as well. Hope to hear from you all soon! > >~Michael Messinger~ > >My Messinger line: Michael (b.1719), Jacob (1748), Isaac (1789), Elias >(1822), William E. (1859), Claude C. (1883), John (1922, my grandfather) > _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk

Michael is also my ancestor. I have a DAR supplemental on him and his son John. Last I was to Arndt's Cemetery, I could not find his stone. It has disappeared. The whole cemetery is in very bad shape. Michael, John, Michael, Andrew, Freeman, Dora, my grandmother MUB -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PANORTHA] Attention descendants of the Michael Messinger (born 1719) Family of Northampton County I found some information on my swiss ancestry, here are a few links: http://www.swissroots.org/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw/ http://www.worldgenweb.org/ subs: http://www.worldgenweb.org/europe.html Hope this helps. Lori -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 7:01 PM Subject: [PANORTHA] Attention descendants of the Michael Messinger (born 1719) Family of Northampton County Attention Descendants of Michael Messinger, who was born in 1719, and his family that arrived in Philadelphia in 1732, and died in Forks Township, Northampton County, PA in 1791 I am wondering if anyone has definitive records to show where the Messinger family emigrated from. I have often heard Basel, Switzerland tossed around as a possibility, but so far I haven?t been able to find anyone with records from Basel to support that. A little while ago I came across an interesting website. The people on the website had joined together to commission a researcher in Germany to find the origins of their family. I was wondering if there would be any interest in doing the same for our Michael Messinger. Although such research is very expensive (the one I saw was over $700), if we can get a lot of people to contribute we can drastically lower the price of the research. For example, if it would cost $700 and 7 people contributed, that would only be $100 each. If we got 14 people, it would only $50 each, and so on. Some researchers also have a policy that they only collect payment if the search is successful, thus meaning that there is no risk for the p! eople commissioning the research. This email is only meant to test the waters. If we pool our resources we stand a far greater chance of being able to find the exact place our family came from than if we all go it alone. Please let me know if you have any interest in undertaking such a project. If you do, and have any suggestions as to possible researchers or organizations to hire that would be much appreciated as well. Hope to hear from you all soon! ~Michael Messinger~ My Messinger line: Michael (b.1719), Jacob (1748), Isaac (1789), Elias (1822), William E. (1859), Claude C. (1883), John (1922, my grandfather) PAGenWeb Northampton http://pa-roots.com/~northampton/ PAGenWeb ~ Bucks County http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabucks Bucks County History and Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buckscounty Pennsylvania GenWeb http://www.pagenweb.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. PAGenWeb Northampton http://pa-roots.com/~northampton/ PAGenWeb ~ Bucks County http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabucks Bucks County History and Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buckscounty Pennsylvania GenWeb http://www.pagenweb.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found some information on my swiss ancestry, here are a few links: http://www.swissroots.org/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw/ http://www.worldgenweb.org/ subs: http://www.worldgenweb.org/europe.html Hope this helps. Lori -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 7:01 PM Subject: [PANORTHA] Attention descendants of the Michael Messinger (born 1719) Family of Northampton County Attention Descendants of Michael Messinger, who was born in 1719, and his family that arrived in Philadelphia in 1732, and died in Forks Township, Northampton County, PA in 1791 I am wondering if anyone has definitive records to show where the Messinger family emigrated from. I have often heard Basel, Switzerland tossed around as a possibility, but so far I haven?t been able to find anyone with records from Basel to support that. A little while ago I came across an interesting website. The people on the website had joined together to commission a researcher in Germany to find the origins of their family. I was wondering if there would be any interest in doing the same for our Michael Messinger. Although such research is very expensive (the one I saw was over $700), if we can get a lot of people to contribute we can drastically lower the price of the research. For example, if it would cost $700 and 7 people contributed, that would only be $100 each. If we got 14 people, it would only $50 each, and so on. Some researchers also have a policy that they only collect payment if the search is successful, thus meaning that there is no risk for the p! eople commissioning the research. This email is only meant to test the waters. If we pool our resources we stand a far greater chance of being able to find the exact place our family came from than if we all go it alone. Please let me know if you have any interest in undertaking such a project. If you do, and have any suggestions as to possible researchers or organizations to hire that would be much appreciated as well. Hope to hear from you all soon! ~Michael Messinger~ My Messinger line: Michael (b.1719), Jacob (1748), Isaac (1789), Elias (1822), William E. (1859), Claude C. (1883), John (1922, my grandfather) PAGenWeb Northampton http://pa-roots.com/~northampton/ PAGenWeb ~ Bucks County http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabucks Bucks County History and Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buckscounty Pennsylvania GenWeb http://www.pagenweb.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.