Hello John and Beth, You both are 5th greatgrandchildren of John Swan........Well meet a 6th great granson son of John Swan. That is if you are talking about John "The Pioneer" Swan that married Elizabeth Lucas. Here is my line of descent. I have some info and am willing to share anything I have. Mark Elizabeth, PA Direct Descendants of John 'The Pioneer' Swan 1 John 'The Pioneer' SWAN Unknown - Unknown .. +Elizabeth LUCAS 1722/23 - Unknown ........... 2 Elizabeth SWAN 1750/51 - 1825 ............... +Thomas HUGHES, Sr 1749 - 1823 ........................ 3 Rememberance HUGHES 1793 - 1856 ............................ +Margaret MCCLAIN 1799 - 1832 ...................................... 4 Catherine HUGHES 1828 - 1898 .......................................... +Peter SHARPNACK 1822 - 1907 ................................................... 5 Samuel Hughes SHARPNACK 1852 - 1920 ....................................................... +Ella THOMAS 1858 - Unknown ................................................................ 6 George Thomas SHARPNACK 1890 - 1932 .................................................................... +Hilda Marie COOPER 1892 - 1988 ............................................................................ .. 7 Elsie HOLLIDAY 1918 - 1997 ............................................................................ ...... +Kenneth Wilbur HOLLIDAY 1913 - 1979 ............................................................................ ............... 8 Carol Jean HOLLIDAY ............................................................................ ................... +Paul Robert DODD ............................................................................ ............................ 9 Mark Edward DODD ----- Original Message ----- From: Beth Bubonovich <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [PAMONVAL] Re: CARMICHAELS > John, you wrote: > I have the original Pennsylvania land patent for John Swan (my > 5th > great grandfather) who also settled in the same area (near Muddy > Creek in present-day Greene County). > > John Swan was also my 5th great grandfather. Would you care to share how > you descend and perhaps we can trade some information. > Beth > [email protected]