Hi list and especially Tom Speers, Do you know of a connection between the Teggarts, the Beelers, and the Griffiths??? My grandmother was Ada Griffith Teggart, whose parents were John S. Teggart a teacher, and Martha Ann Beeler. Middle names aren't just handed out are they? Jan

Hi Mark, Great to hear from you! I'm your cousin. My connection is through Harriet Bennet Thomas, daughter of Benjamin and Hannah, who married William Beeler. I'd love to compare notes. I have Benjamin Thomas' s Bible which has the vital records. I also have my grandfather's notebook which contains letters from the relatives for the family reunions they used to hold. This is what I know about the Alexanders and am wondering if I'm on the right track. According to the Benjamin Thomas Bible, Hannah Alexander was born the 2nd of May 1791 at Ten Mile Creek. Her parents were listed as Joseph Alexander and Rosa Ann Jones. According to descendents letters circa 1910, Rosa Ann Jones was born in Ellicotts Mills, Maryland 17 October 1765 and died about 1850 in Stark County, Ohio. Joseph was born 9 July 1765 in Maryland and died in Ohio 9 June 1847 in Ohio. Do you know more exactly where he was born and died? Joseph's father was Isaac Alexander and his mother was Elizabeth. In doing further searching I'm finding another name, Joseph Mc Knitt Alexander. Is that name associated with our Alexanders? Jan

There are 6 or more Griffith tombstones in the Belle Vernon Cemetery. One is Ananias Griffith who served in the 22nd PA Calvary. Another is a John and Sarah Griffith born about 1864. I did not get a detailed JPG picture of the other tombstones to know what the names and dates are. Tom Speers Researching german line of Speer/Spears/Speers/Spear Germany>PA>VA>MD>PA and KY>etc. descendents of Michael Christopher Spears and his brother (Peter) Henry Speer/Spears ---------- > From: Eva Dayle Zippay <evadayle@yahoo.com> > To: PAMONVAL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAMONVAL] Cratty and Jester names > Date: Friday, March 09, 2001 6:46 PM > > I don't know how much of a help this is, but I went to > school (50's) with a girl whose last name was Cratty > and a boy whose last name was Jester. I don't > remember their first names--I wasn't friends with > either--but I think they were both from Roscoe. I > remember the Jester boy had red, red hair! > Eva in Tallahassee > --- Lona Boudreaux <lona@pdq.net> wrote: > > Jean, > > > > Are you connected to the Butler Co. Pa. mailing > > list? There are people on > > that list researching the Cratty line. Some of that > > line later moved to > > Ohio. Also, I'm interested in your Jester line. > > According to Elias > > Laughlin's Civil War Pension records he married a > > Della/ Dulana Jester > > August 1861 at West or East Elizabeth, Allegheny > > Co., Pa. Their children > > were Charles born Dec 27, 1861, Elias born May 17, > > 1866 and William born > > Feb. 20, 1868. I know son Charles was born in Pa. > > but at some point after > > the war Elias and Della/Dulana moved to Ohio. Elias > > died Oct 17, 1918 in a > > Soldiers Home at Massillon, Ohio. Della/Dulana had > > died before this. > > > > Any of this familiar to you? > > > > Lona > > lona@pdq.net > > > > > > > > > > > William Cratty married Francis (Fanny) Jester > > about 1866 in Coal Bluff > > > Washington County. They were both born @1845. > > They had 6 children, 3 > > were > > > still living in 1910, William Jr, Sadie who was > > widow of a Griffith and > > > James. In 1910 they were living in Pricedale, > > Rostraver Township. Anyone > > > know when they died or where they are buried or > > any of their desendants? I > > > am descended from Fanny's brother Samuel Jester. > > Please help, I have been > > > stuck on Fanny for 11 years! Thank you, Jean > > jjliving@cobweb.net > > (r)</a> > >

Hi Jan, Elizabeth & Joseph Alexander were my 5th great grandparents, Also Hannah was my 4th great grandmother. She married Benjamin Thomas of Rostraver Township. The Thomas' were a very large family in the area and are of Welsh descent. They came to America in 1730. I have three conflicting marriage dates for Hannah and Benjamin. they are: Sept. 9, 1811; Sept 11,1811; and Sept 24,1811. They were more than likely married in Webster, PA. They had a total of eleven children and are buried in the historic Fells Cemetery located on Fells Church Road & Fellsburg Road in Rostraver twp. Westmoreland County,PA ( just a ways up the road from Webster). I don't have much on the Alexanders but I have a ton on the Thomas'. Let me know what you need. Here is just a small outline of their descendants. Hope to hear from you! Mark Descendants of Hannah Alexander 1 Hannah Alexander b: Bet. 1787 - 1800 . +Benjamin Thomas b: September 27, 1787 Wellingtonborough twp, Burlington Co, NJ ... 2 Elijah Alexander Thomas b: February 12, 1815 ....... +Melissa Davis ... 2 Rosa Ann Thomas b: September 11, 1816 ....... +James Davidson ... 2 Mary B. Thomas b: October 10, 1818 ....... +Samuel Jones ... 2 Joseph Beatty Thomas b: March 28, 1821 ....... +Jane Winters ... 2 Sarah Charlottee Thomas b: March 28, 1821 d: June 21, 1825 ... 2 Hannah Elizabeth Thomas b: November 28, 1826 ....... +James Gamble ... 2 James Sampson Thomas b: November 16, 1833 Webster, PA ....... +Sarah J. Winters b: Abt. 1833 ........ 3 Hessie Harriet Thomas b: 1855 ............ +John Collins ........ 3 Ella Thomas b: April 13, 1858 Webster, Westmoreland Co,PA ............ +Samuel Hughes Sharpnack b: November 14, 1852 Rices Landing, Greene, Pa d: November 29, 1920 in Elizabeth, Allegheny, Pa ........ 3 William Thomas ............ +Mame Davidson ... 2 Thomas Hudson Thomas b: September 5, 1828 ....... +Aasenath Brown ... 2 Harriet Thomas Thomas b: July 13, 1829 ....... +William Beeler ... 2 Wesley Ford Thomas b: November 27, 1831 ....... +Sarah J. McCrory ... 2 Van William Thomas b: April 4, 1837 ....... +Frances Carson > Hi List, > Can anyone tell me if Ten Mile Creek in Washington County is the same as > Ten Mile Village? > I am researching Elizabeth and Joseph Alexander who had Hannah Alexander > in 1791. Thanks in advance for the help. Jan > > >

Hi List, Can anyone tell me if Ten Mile Creek in Washington County is the same as Ten Mile Village? I am researching Elizabeth and Joseph Alexander who had Hannah Alexander in 1791. Thanks in advance for the help. Jan

As I was searching through ebay today, I noticed there is a plate listed for the First Methodist Church in Monongahela in case anyone on this list is interested. There is a picture and some church history is given on the back of the plate: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1121364784 - Barbara Heutchy

My husband's family, I have been told, came from this area. His gggrandfather Hamilton Bridges I have found in an 1850 census spelled Bridget but 4 years later he witnessed a will and it was spelled Bridges. He was in the service 1861 it was Bridges. He was married to Sarah Morrow. I can't get past 1850. My husband's ggrandfather Michael Kraska was in a 1900 census in this same area and I can't find anything after that. I would appreciate any information or ideas. Thanks, Susie

I don't know how much of a help this is, but I went to school (50's) with a girl whose last name was Cratty and a boy whose last name was Jester. I don't remember their first names--I wasn't friends with either--but I think they were both from Roscoe. I remember the Jester boy had red, red hair! Eva in Tallahassee --- Lona Boudreaux <lona@pdq.net> wrote: > Jean, > > Are you connected to the Butler Co. Pa. mailing > list? There are people on > that list researching the Cratty line. Some of that > line later moved to > Ohio. Also, I'm interested in your Jester line. > According to Elias > Laughlin's Civil War Pension records he married a > Della/ Dulana Jester > August 1861 at West or East Elizabeth, Allegheny > Co., Pa. Their children > were Charles born Dec 27, 1861, Elias born May 17, > 1866 and William born > Feb. 20, 1868. I know son Charles was born in Pa. > but at some point after > the war Elias and Della/Dulana moved to Ohio. Elias > died Oct 17, 1918 in a > Soldiers Home at Massillon, Ohio. Della/Dulana had > died before this. > > Any of this familiar to you? > > Lona > lona@pdq.net > > > > > > William Cratty married Francis (Fanny) Jester > about 1866 in Coal Bluff > > Washington County. They were both born @1845. > They had 6 children, 3 > were > > still living in 1910, William Jr, Sadie who was > widow of a Griffith and > > James. In 1910 they were living in Pricedale, > Rostraver Township. Anyone > > know when they died or where they are buried or > any of their desendants? I > > am descended from Fanny's brother Samuel Jester. > Please help, I have been > > stuck on Fanny for 11 years! Thank you, Jean > jjliving@cobweb.net > > > > > > ==== PAMONVAL Mailing List ==== > Like This Internet Resource? Click to > <a > href=http://www.recommend-it.com/l.z.e?s=555045>Recommend-It > (r)</a> > ===== Eva Dayle Zippay Tallahassee, Florida evadayle@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

I've been told that my maternal grandparents came from this area. Does anyone have any information on the family of Lederer (Leader,Leder) or Weideman (wildeman)? Has anyone heard of the Lederer Brothers Farm. Another name I am looking for is a Pearl Booth who's mother was Bertha Adelia Leader. She had a brother Francis and I'm told she opened the first Bible School in Pittsburgh. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Nancie nsippel@msn.com<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

Jean, Are you connected to the Butler Co. Pa. mailing list? There are people on that list researching the Cratty line. Some of that line later moved to Ohio. Also, I'm interested in your Jester line. According to Elias Laughlin's Civil War Pension records he married a Della/ Dulana Jester August 1861 at West or East Elizabeth, Allegheny Co., Pa. Their children were Charles born Dec 27, 1861, Elias born May 17, 1866 and William born Feb. 20, 1868. I know son Charles was born in Pa. but at some point after the war Elias and Della/Dulana moved to Ohio. Elias died Oct 17, 1918 in a Soldiers Home at Massillon, Ohio. Della/Dulana had died before this. Any of this familiar to you? Lona lona@pdq.net > William Cratty married Francis (Fanny) Jester about 1866 in Coal Bluff > Washington County. They were both born @1845. They had 6 children, 3 were > still living in 1910, William Jr, Sadie who was widow of a Griffith and > James. In 1910 they were living in Pricedale, Rostraver Township. Anyone > know when they died or where they are buried or any of their desendants? I > am descended from Fanny's brother Samuel Jester. Please help, I have been > stuck on Fanny for 11 years! Thank you, Jean jjliving@cobweb.net >

Sorry about that--I put one too many / in the url-- The absolutely, 100% accurate (I think) url is: http://molecular-genealogy.byu.edu/ Eva (Who feels like she is on that well-known road that is paved with good intentions.) ===== Eva Dayle Zippay Tallahassee, Florida evadayle@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Hi Listers, Sorry about that, especially because I really do think most of you would be quite interested in the article. I followed the directions on the link that says "Send this article to a friend", so I don't know why it didn't work. Unfortunately, I deleted today's SSD, which contained the url, after I read the article myself (and tried to send it to you.) Try this: http:///molecular-genealogy.byu.edu/ which works when I try it, so hopefully will work for you. The article is about the use of DNA testing in genealogy. Apparently in the not-too-distant future that will be a tool available to the genealogist, although undoubtedly an expensive one. It's really exciting news to me--I think about being able to prove for certain the paternity of my grandmother, who was born out of wedlock, but everyone "knows" who her father was. I'm sure I'm not the only one in this boat. Hope this works!! Eva ===== Eva Dayle Zippay Tallahassee, Florida evadayle@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Eva has sent you a story. Comments: I found this article very interesting and thought others would too. Go to the following address to read the story: http://www1.standard.net/stories/local/03-2001/FTP0294@local@04gene@Ogden. asp If you can't click on the above link, simply copy and paste it in your browser. For more Top of Utah news, sports and features, click to: http://www.standard.net/ ------------------------------------------ Brought to you by the Standard-Examiner. Subscribe today! Call 801-625-4400. ------------------------------------------

Hello Jan and Mark, You may find more info on the early Alexander families in the book on the Fleniken/Flanagan family that were intermarried with them. There are branches of the Alexander and Flanagan families that moved south about the middle 1700's due to the French and Indian War Indian troubles. They moved to the Mechlingburg County Charlotte, NC and York County, SC area where I now live. This is my cousin William Fleniken's family line and not mine. I have not seen the book that was done by one of the Flanagans who lives in Ohio. I believe there has been cross naming of children's names such as William Flanagan Alexander and William Alexander Flanagan. Today, a William Alexander Flanagan lives near Rock Hill, York County, SC and a Flanagan and an Alexander are neighbors just outside York, SC. However, I am interested in learning the parents and families of James and Mame Davidson, and Sarah J. McCrory spouses you mentioned below. Tom Speers Researching german line of Speer/Spears/Speers/Spear Germany>PA>VA>MD>PA and KY>etc. descendents of Michael Christopher Spears and his brother (Peter) Henry Speer/Spears ---------- > From: Riverbuff2@aol.com > To: PAMONVAL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAMONVAL] Ten Mile Creek /Hannah ALEXANDER > Date: Sunday, March 11, 2001 10:04 AM > > Hi Jan, > Elizabeth & Joseph Alexander were my 5th great grandparents, Also Hannah > was my 4th great grandmother. She married Benjamin Thomas of Rostraver > Township. The Thomas' were a very large family in the area and are of Welsh > descent. They came to America in 1730. I have three conflicting marriage > dates for Hannah and Benjamin. they are: Sept. 9, 1811; Sept 11,1811; and > Sept 24,1811. They were more than likely married in Webster, PA. They had a > total of eleven children and are buried in the historic Fells Cemetery > located on Fells Church Road & Fellsburg Road in Rostraver twp. Westmoreland > County,PA ( just a ways up the road from Webster). > I don't have much on the Alexanders but I have a ton on the Thomas'. Let me > know what you need. Here is just a small outline of their descendants. > Hope to hear from you! > Mark > > Descendants of Hannah Alexander > > 1 Hannah Alexander b: Bet. 1787 - 1800 > . +Benjamin Thomas b: September 27, 1787 Wellingtonborough twp, > Burlington Co, NJ > ... 2 Elijah Alexander Thomas b: February 12, 1815 > ....... +Melissa Davis > ... 2 Rosa Ann Thomas b: September 11, 1816 > ....... +James Davidson > ... 2 Mary B. Thomas b: October 10, 1818 > ....... +Samuel Jones > ... 2 Joseph Beatty Thomas b: March 28, 1821 > ....... +Jane Winters > ... 2 Sarah Charlottee Thomas b: March 28, 1821 d: June 21, 1825 > ... 2 Hannah Elizabeth Thomas b: November 28, 1826 > ....... +James Gamble > ... 2 James Sampson Thomas b: November 16, 1833 Webster, PA > ....... +Sarah J. Winters b: Abt. 1833 > ........ 3 Hessie Harriet Thomas b: 1855 > ............ +John Collins > ........ 3 Ella Thomas b: April 13, 1858 Webster, Westmoreland Co,PA > ............ +Samuel Hughes Sharpnack b: November 14, 1852 Rices > Landing, Greene, Pa d: November 29, 1920 in Elizabeth, Allegheny, Pa > ........ 3 William Thomas > ............ +Mame Davidson > ... 2 Thomas Hudson Thomas b: September 5, 1828 > ....... +Aasenath Brown > ... 2 Harriet Thomas Thomas b: July 13, 1829 > ....... +William Beeler > ... 2 Wesley Ford Thomas b: November 27, 1831 > ....... +Sarah J. McCrory > ... 2 Van William Thomas b: April 4, 1837 > ....... +Frances Carson

Hi Everyone, Is there a website or a place I could call that lists the cemeteries in Monongahela? Thanks for your help, Linda

Dave, I received this from a class that I took in Genealogy. The Effective date is determined by the Federal Government - -Census Bureau. Alot of good information is on Brenda's Guide to Pa. Genealogy. Address is http://www.chartiers.com/pages/palinks.html When Brenda's page comes up click on FRAMES. Dee turekd08@aol.com Researching--SCANLON-BOYD-LEEPER-AMMON

That doesn't mean the Census had to be "completed" by April 1, 1910, it means the information was supposed to be "effective April 1, 1910". Wouldn't matter what date AFTER April 1 the information was gathered. The Census 2000, of which I was an enumerator, (and know for a FACT that information is wrong, wrongly gathered, lied about, etc), the date we did the work was in March, and the "effective date" was April 1, 2000, meaning that the Census was done BEFORE the "effective date." Now, if someone were to die on March 31, they couldn't be included in the April 1 Census, but the GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CARE! They want numbers, regardless of "where it comes from." I live in a "city" of about 27,000 people. Some people KNOW the population of this "town" is under 25,000 but in order to get proper Federal Funding, the population HAS to be over 25,000. So lies were made on Census forms. I was an enumerator (not in this town), but I know what I was taught, and the way they handled things, and I'm not afraid to put my name to it! Robert D. Mollenauer, Jr. Ridgecrest, CA "Gateway to Death Valley National Park"

They surely didn't meet the deadline. Bridgeport, Fayette county PA was done in December 1810. --- Katherine Art <kate194@earthlink.net> ---------- >From: "Dave Copenhaver Sr." <dlcope@sgi.net> >To: PAMONVAL-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PAMONVAL] Census "Effective Date" >Date: Thu, Mar 1, 2001, 2:36 PM > >Please publish your source for this valuable information. > >Dave Copenhaver >dlcope@sgi.net >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Turekd08@aol.com> >To: <PAMONVAL-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 8:51 PM >Subject: [PAMONVAL] Census "Effective Date" > > >> 1790---Monday, Aug 2, 1790 >> 1800---Monday, Aug 4, 1800 >> 1810---Monday, Aug 6, 1810 >> 1820---Monday, Aug 7 1820 >> 1830---Tuesday, Jun 1 1830 >> 1840---Monday, Jun1 1840 >> 1850---Saturday, Jun1 1850 >> 1860---Friday, Jun1 1860 >> 1870---Wednesday, Jun1 1870 >> 1880---Tuesday Jun1 1880 >> 1890---Sunday, Jun1 1890 >> 1900---Friday, Jun1 1900 >> 1910---Friday, April 1910 >> 1920---Thursday, Jan1, 1920 >> >> >> Dee. >> > > >==== PAMONVAL Mailing List ==== >Please support Rootsweb. Mailing lists such as PAMONVAL are made >possible by Rootsweb contributors. Visit the Rootsweb website at >http:/www.rootsweb.com > >

Please publish your source for this valuable information. Dave Copenhaver dlcope@sgi.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Turekd08@aol.com> To: <PAMONVAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 8:51 PM Subject: [PAMONVAL] Census "Effective Date" > 1790---Monday, Aug 2, 1790 > 1800---Monday, Aug 4, 1800 > 1810---Monday, Aug 6, 1810 > 1820---Monday, Aug 7 1820 > 1830---Tuesday, Jun 1 1830 > 1840---Monday, Jun1 1840 > 1850---Saturday, Jun1 1850 > 1860---Friday, Jun1 1860 > 1870---Wednesday, Jun1 1870 > 1880---Tuesday Jun1 1880 > 1890---Sunday, Jun1 1890 > 1900---Friday, Jun1 1900 > 1910---Friday, April 1910 > 1920---Thursday, Jan1, 1920 > > > Dee. >

Thank you for posting the Census effective dates. That's something I've always wondered, and even though the Census takers (excuse me, "enumerators" - I was one in 2000) don't always abide by the "rules" (rules? What rules?), it makes a big difference in figuring ages, and other important dates! Thanks, Robert D. Mollenauer, Jr. Ridgecrest, CA