I'm looking for info on the Hutton family in Elizabeth Twp. early 1800's.I have a July Ann (Julianne ?) Hutton b.16 Sept. 1816.She married John Sadler 25 Oct 1833. I found a Elijah Hatton on the 1790 census & wonder if this could be the same family. Could someone please help? Brenda

If some of you may remember, a couple months ago I had found a $100 "United States War Savings Bond" (Series E), and wondered how I could cash it in. It was issued to my Great Grandmother, Mrs. Fannie Barnhart (wife of the late Robert L. BARNHART, of Charleroi), "or" Mrs. Lillian HORNE (former late wife of Allen HORN, of the Washington HORN's)(she added the "e" on the end). The bond cost $75 in 1943, with a maturity date 10-years later, at $100. Well, since my grandmother (Lillian HORNE) died in 1949, and her mother (Fannie BARNHART) died in Oct. 1953, one month after the expiration of the War Bond, it had never been cashed. So I went about trying to find out if I could cash it. With help from a lot of people on these rootsweb sites, and finally the Federal Reserve, and the Dept. of the Public Debt, I was able to cash this bond. It involved getting Death Certificates on Lillian HORNE (first one to die), and Fannie BARNHART (2nd one to die), and to prove that my mother was indeed who she was. To do that, though they didn't ask, I included a copy of her marriage certificate. I would think a birth cert. would be more "official." I couldn't send copies of the death certs, I had to get new "certified" copies from New Castle. For once New Castle processed a couple items faster than I'm used to! One of the death certs is dated February 13, this year, so I guess this has only been about a two-month project. Believe it or not, the "Bureau of the Public Debt" was quite helpful! The War Bond ceased earning interest 40 years after issue, in Sept., 1983. Here is is, 18 years after it ceased earning interest, but that $100 had grown to $409.92. On Tuesday of this week, my mom received a check from the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, which we took to the bank and cashed. They didn't even ask for I.D. at the bank, though I had plenty with me. Of course they checked to make sure we were on record with the bank. Now, I did have to get the Federal Reserve Form PD F 5336 notarized, where my mother signed it, and I signed as a witness. That was $5 each. And when I mailed everything in to the Bureau of the Public Debt, I sent it Registered Mail, with a Return Receipt, so total expense were "about" $30. Being the nice guy that I am, I tossed in the extra 8¢, so we got $410 for it, and I gave my mom $10, and kept the other $400, but I'm only keeping it for her! (honest!) If any of you ever run across a War Bond, and want to try to cash it, just contact me, and I'll give you the instructions on how to do it. An important address to have would be Bureau of Public Debt P O Box 1328 Parkersburg WV 26106-1328 That way you can handle it all by email Oh yeah, email address: SavBond2@bpd.treas.gov And you would need Form PD F 5336, which I got from the Denver Federal Reserve Bank. (which seemed weird, since I'm in Calif.) It cost me $13.25 to send it Registered Mail, but I wanted to be on the safe side, since it WAS a negotiable instrument. It wasn't nearly as difficult as I thought it would be. As long as the total amount is under $1000, such as this, it's much easier. I don't know exactly what is involved if it's more than $1000, but it's a harder transaction to complete. Also, if a Will is involved, that makes it more difficult too. If my mother were not alive, I would not have been able to cash it in at all! I know this is long, but I hope you find it interesting, and if you ever need the info, print out what you might need, and you'll be all set! Regards, Robert D. Mollenauer, Jr. Ridgecrest, CA b. Charleroi, PA (Aug., 1948)

I am looking for members to the John A Kinzie family, of Portvue Pa. John died in 1918, buried in Mt Vernon Cemetery. His wife Olive Lindholm Kinzie died in1962. She was survived by several grandchildren and great grandchildren. Hope someone can offer some help. Thankyou Carolyn

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Eva, The glass factory in the Fayette Co. section of Belle Vernon was shut down when I was a kid. Don't recall whether it was in the late 40s or early to mid 50s. What I would like to know is where was the Albany Glass Co. located in PA. My g,g,grandfather Stephen Whetzel was a master teaser at glass factories one of which was the Albany Co. Marilyn, Lake Co., IL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eva Dayle Zippay" <evadayle@yahoo.com> To: <PAMONVAL-L@rootsweb.com> : Hi Nancie, : Yes, glassmaking was and still is a big industry : in the valley. There was a glass factory in Belle : Vernon, Fayette Co.--I don't know if it is still : operational or not. Also, Charleroi, across the river : in Washington Co. has always had glassmaking. In the : first part of the town's history Pittsburgh Plate : Glass had a factory there, and now Corning has a plant : there. The Corning plant has been there at least 50 : years, probably more. : I recall a George Leader, who was, I believe, a : local politician around the 50s or 60s, but I have no : further information. : Eva in Tallahassee

Hi Nancie, Yes, glassmaking was and still is a big industry in the valley. There was a glass factory in Belle Vernon, Fayette Co.--I don't know if it is still operational or not. Also, Charleroi, across the river in Washington Co. has always had glassmaking. In the first part of the town's history Pittsburgh Plate Glass had a factory there, and now Corning has a plant there. The Corning plant has been there at least 50 years, probably more. I recall a George Leader, who was, I believe, a local politician around the 50s or 60s, but I have no further information. Eva in Tallahassee --- Nancie Sippel <NSippel@msn.com> wrote: > Hi! I'm new to this list. My father had told me > stories about his grandfather Frank Lederer who > lived in this area. He was a glassblower along with > other members of his family. Can anyone tell me if > glassworks are a big thing there in the Valley? > This would have been at the end of the 1800's. Does > anyone know anything of the Lederer (Leader,Leder) > family? > I am also looking for the surname of Booth which > also came from this area. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > Thanks, > Nancie > nsippel@msn.com<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE > download of MSN Explorer at <a > href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p> > > > ==== PAMONVAL Mailing List ==== > Come visit the NEW <a > href=http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pamonval>Mid > Mon Valley History and Genealogy Pages</a> > ===== Eva Dayle Zippay Tallahassee, Florida evadayle@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text

Hi! I'm new to this list. My father had told me stories about his grandfather Frank Lederer who lived in this area. He was a glassblower along with other members of his family. Can anyone tell me if glassworks are a big thing there in the Valley? This would have been at the end of the 1800's. Does anyone know anything of the Lederer (Leader,Leder) family? I am also looking for the surname of Booth which also came from this area. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Nancie nsippel@msn.com<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

----- Original Message ----- From: cm.curtis <cm.curtis@gateway.net> To: <pamonval-d-@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Fw: Family of Elmer & Martha WRIGHT > Hello, > I recently found grandmother's brother and his family. > Does anyone recognize any of these people? I would > love to learn more about them. > > As found in the 1910 Census - Westmoreland co, PA > Greensburg enumeration District 0132 > > Elmer H.(Henry) WRIGHT age 43 born PA > wife Martha (DEAN) WRIGHT age 44 born England > son William D " 19 " PA > son Walter H 17 PA > son George E 15 PA > son Clarence D 11 PA > son Samuel M 8 PA > dau Edna P 6 PA > > Thank you > > Mimi in Denver > cm.curtis@gateway.net > Seeking: Wright, Hillman, Riffle, Parfet, Dean, May, Armbrust,Chorpenning, > Eicher, Strauss, McCrackin, Sharples, Bigley, McGee, Shoemaker to name a > few > >

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C226C5B6EE836733A2ECB40A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Thanks Mike Donaldson, Bentleyville, PA (mdonald4@bentcom.net) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mon Valley History and Genealogy Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pamonval/ Mon Valley: Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow: http://www.geocities.com/mdonald318/ My family gedcom: http://www.my-ged.com/donldson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Listowner of: Monongahela River Valley of Penna Rootsweb mailing list: PAMONVAL-L@rootsweb.com - Mail mode PAMONVAL-D@rootsweb.com - Digest mode Bieneman / Bienemann Rootsweb Mailing list Bienemann-L@rootsweb.com - Mail Mode Bienemann-D@rootsweb.com - Digest mode --------------C226C5B6EE836733A2ECB40A Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by atl4.america.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA02083 for <mdonald4@bentcom.net>; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:08:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f2RK86N07660 for PAMONVAL-admin@lists5.rootsweb.com; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:08:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:08:06 -0700 X-From_: rhscales@libcom.com Tue Mar 27 13:08:05 2001 Received: from newmail.rootsweb.com (newmail.rootsweb.com [192.168.1.103]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2RK85B07592 for <PAMONVAL-L-request@lists5.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:08:05 -0700 Received: from mail.libcom.com (mx.libcom.com [205.138.18.40]) by newmail.rootsweb.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2RK89B32351 for <PAMONVAL-L-request@rootsweb.com>; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:08:09 -0700 Received: from libcom.com ([205.138.23.111] RDNS failed) by mail.libcom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.1600); Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:57:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3AC0EEFA.A27770AE@libcom.com> Old-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:50:18 -0500 From: Richard Scales <rhscales@libcom.com> Reply-To: rhscales@libcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PAMONVAL-L <PAMONVAL-L-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: SCALES FAMILY ETC. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2001 19:57:13.0620 (UTC) FILETIME=[1DE70D40:01C0B6F8] X-Diagnostic: Already on the subscriber list X-Diagnostic: 181 rhscales@libcom.com 32736 rhscales@libcom.com X-Envelope-To: PAMONVAL-L-request Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 I am new with the list but would like to leave a query on the surname of SCALES, GASH, ROBINSON. The areas I am interested in would be Sutersville, Westmoreland, Co.-- Mustard Hollow[ Now named Victory], and Buena Vista, Elizabeth Twp.,Allegheny Co. My Grandparents, George and Mary Wright Scales came to the US sometime around 1886 or 1887 from Barnsley,

I visited Taylor's twice last year. It was all overgrown the first time, but cut the second time. I have quite a few relatives buried there - - Berry, Ferree, but few have tombstones. I have a list of those interred - - only those with stones I think; someone transcribed them & they are available at the Elizabeth Historical Society. The list I have was published on the web, but is no longer there. If you want to give any names, I'll let you know if they are on the list. I know nothing of Elkhorn, etc. My relatives were all from Bunola; members of St. Michael's in Elizabeth, & of the Church of the Nazerene. Does anyone know if the latter Church has kept any records of burials, etc.? --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.

Re: Would anybody know about the History of the village of Gastonville > located near Finleyville, Washington Co? I have a Charity CHEESEMAN who > married a John Gaston in 1760 in Monmouth Co New Jersey and came to > Washington county. I think the History of the Peters Creek Watershed has bit of history of Gastonville -- as well as its change of name ( from ? to Gastonville)-- but I can't lay my hand on that copy at the moment. However, I have excerpted a bit on the Gston House from "A Guidebook of Historic Western Pennsylvania," by Helen Smith and George Swetnam, 1991, Univ of Pittsburgh Press: "Gaston House (brick with cut-stone foundation), built by Samuel Gaston, is reputed to date from 1800, but its architectural design denotes a somewhat later time. John Gastoncame from New Jersey and purchased a tract of land called "Belmont" from John Cox in 1790. Before his death he divided the property among four sons. An 1807 mill stood below the house where a later mill, now a residence, is located. Location: Gastonville, junction of McChain and Stone Church roads (Union Township)." If I find the other source, I'll post it. Russ

Hi I am looking for information on ALBERT SCOTT MORTON BORN NOV 11, 1875 , DIED JULY 31, 1955. He was a blacksmith in Monongahela.............His father was ROBEERT SCOTT MORTON better know as "DAD" he sold strawberries and produce, he was from Nottingham township near Kammer . born oct 17,1849 died april 23,1923................His father was DAVID MORTON, I have no information on him Would appreciate any help thank-you Cindy 84 Pa clou@pulsenet.com

Dear Listers, You will find a lot of material in the file cabinet in the Pleasant Hills Library & they have the work of Noah Thompson. I took some of his work from there for our historical society. Regards, Ellen (ETHS)

Mike.. Great "write up". Maybe a progress page can be incorporated like the "Mon Valley Expressway!!!!!. Dave Copenhaver dlcope@sgi.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Donaldson" <mdonald4@bentcom.net> To: <PAMONVAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 6:26 PM Subject: [PAMONVAL] Old California (Union) Cemetery preservation. > I've recently begun a new page on the Mon Valley History and genealogy > page. This one deals with the Preservation of the Old California > Cemetery. I hope to be able to add quite a bit more info, pictures etc. > in the near future. The link is: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pamonval/cityboro/files/califcemete ry.html > > If there are other similar projects in the Valley, let me know if there > is anything I can do to help, in the way of websites. Can't promise > anything, but I promise to try! > > -- > Thanks > Mike Donaldson, Bentleyville, PA (mdonald4@bentcom.net) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mon Valley History and Genealogy Website: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pamonval/ > > Mon Valley: Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow: > http://www.geocities.com/mdonald318/ > > My family gedcom: > http://www.my-ged.com/donldson > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Listowner of: > Monongahela River Valley of Penna Rootsweb mailing list: > PAMONVAL-L@rootsweb.com - Mail mode > PAMONVAL-D@rootsweb.com - Digest mode > > Bieneman / Bienemann Rootsweb Mailing list > Bienemann-L@rootsweb.com - Mail Mode > Bienemann-D@rootsweb.com - Digest mode > > ______________________________

The Peters Creek Historical Society oversees the Wright House in Venetia. There is a very nice library there where you might check for such history. Noah Thompson did historical research and wrote about the history of the comunities in that area. The local libraries may have a copy of his works too. Priscilla

Hello All, Concerning Forward township Cemeteries.... I have all the records if anyone needs a lookup. I did have them online but I went to redo all my websites and I just haven't had time to put them back online. ElkHorn Patch... Well I actually never heard of it called that but Yes The town of Elkhorn is/was across the river from Mitchell Power Plant. There was a post office, Railroad Station, Hotel, School and a few houses including miner houses of the W.H. Brown & Sons coal mine known as the OLD EAGLE COAL WORKS. So more than likely that would be Elkhorn Patch. Today the School is gone, Post office has been torn down, the railroad station has disappeared also. Hardly any signs of a coal mine is there and only a hand full of houses remain, but none of the Company houses. The one large house that remains is the old Homestead of John Gardner, nowadays it is the residence of Ms. Molnar and Molnars Marina. The Cemetery is located up over the hill behind the town on Elkhorn road. Manown also had the same as Elkhorn and today those things are long gone also. There are a few more houses than Elkhorn but no cemetery. There are seven Cemeteries located in Forward Township and all but one were family burying grounds and date pretty far back. The only true public cemetery is the Taylor Cemetery, officially named West Bend, but known to locals as Taylor. This cemetery is still in use but not very often. Good Luck! Mark > Does anyone know anything about the Taylor cemetery in Elkhorn, Forward Twp > of Allegheny County? I know I have an aunt buried there, died a child in > 1902, I have a copy of the funeral home page but there are no markers and I > have not found anyone who has a listing of the burials. How about some > history of the Elkhorn coal patch, was it near the cemetery or was it along > the river? I have heard that it was on the river across from the Mitchell > power plant. Is that true? How about the patch at Manown? Was there a > cemetery there, also? Thyanks for any info you may have. Jean

Does anyone know anything about the Taylor cemetery in Elkhorn, Forward Twp of Allegheny County? I know I have an aunt buried there, died a child in 1902, I have a copy of the funeral home page but there are no markers and I have not found anyone who has a listing of the burials. How about some history of the Elkhorn coal patch, was it near the cemetery or was it along the river? I have heard that it was on the river across from the Mitchell power plant. Is that true? How about the patch at Manown? Was there a cemetery there, also? Thyanks for any info you may have. Jean

<A HREF="http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/default.asp"> </A> Hello All, I'm not sure if this the place for this, but I just wanted to pass this on to some of you. If you are interested in maps of the area this site has Satelite images of all of the US including the Mon Valley courtesy of the US Geological Survey. I even found my house. You can even check out your ancestors home....if it's still standing. I found it fascinating, and addicting. A helpful hint though, I used mapquest also with areas that I am not familiar with. And I compared the two. The address is http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/default.asp <A HREF="http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/default.asp">TerraServer Homepage</A> Good Luck and hope you enjoy!! Mark

I've recently begun a new page on the Mon Valley History and genealogy page. This one deals with the Preservation of the Old California Cemetery. I hope to be able to add quite a bit more info, pictures etc. in the near future. The link is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pamonval/cityboro/files/califcemetery.html If there are other similar projects in the Valley, let me know if there is anything I can do to help, in the way of websites. Can't promise anything, but I promise to try! -- Thanks Mike Donaldson, Bentleyville, PA (mdonald4@bentcom.net) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mon Valley History and Genealogy Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pamonval/ Mon Valley: Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow: http://www.geocities.com/mdonald318/ My family gedcom: http://www.my-ged.com/donldson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Listowner of: Monongahela River Valley of Penna Rootsweb mailing list: PAMONVAL-L@rootsweb.com - Mail mode PAMONVAL-D@rootsweb.com - Digest mode Bieneman / Bienemann Rootsweb Mailing list Bienemann-L@rootsweb.com - Mail Mode Bienemann-D@rootsweb.com - Digest mode

Dear Listers, The Focus Magazine Section of the Sunday Tribune Review has an excellent article on 3 historical society sites. Elizabeth Twp., Westmoreland County & Western PA. I don't know if that section is on line at their site or not. I wanted to call your attention to it. However, in regard to the Elizabeth Twp. section there needs to be a couple corrections. 1. The staff is also trying to keep the building open on Tuesdays from 9:45 a.m. until 3:00 at least. This is in addition to Wednesday during the day & on Friday evenings. (During lent Friday evenings should be listed as by appt. since so much is going on at that time. I usually suggest that people let us know ahead of time when they want to come in so I can be there to help them in the library. 2. The Elizabeth Herald Newspapers, mentioned in the article, are not available for public viewing because of the fragile state they are in. The earliest issue we have is for 1875 & there are a few missing for in-between years. We have not had these long & it will be some time before we can abstract off as much as we would like to do it. This is because of previous commitments that have to be completed first. I'm hoping we will do the marriages & deaths, in full copy form, for 1886 through 1889 first. This is because Elizabeth Wall abstracted off the marriages & deaths between 1874 & 1885 in excellent form. Then, we have Simmer's work starting in 1890 on just the deaths. We have nothing in-between in a published form & it will be wonderful to get that done in the future. 3. Last but not least, the note in the blocked area of the article states that I charge $10. an hr. That is not my fee. That is the historical society fee. At times, I have done work off & had to mail it myself. This is when I just subtract the expenses & turn in the balance to the building. I am a volunteer there & anything that is done in the building is done for their benefit. I only have taken on something private, out of the building, on a limited basis, once in a while, as time has allowed. Just thought I'd better clarify that for any who read the article. I sure do hope many of you can see it. Best Regards, Ellen (ETHS)