Did anyone get back with the person that needed info on the Clark family? If not, I'll have time this evening to search for the names you need..Laura Nelle

hi folks... The following message came from a non-subsciber, please send return messages to Cora <[email protected]>, AND CC: to the list. Cora will be joining the list in the future. Thanks, Mike << In a message dated 11/11/99 4:28:40 PM, [email protected] writes: << I would like to know if anyone is researching this line. [EVANS] >> I am not directly cncerned with the EVANS line, but I am wondering IF you have ever come across a John EVANS --- who would have still been alive in 1923? The sister of my ggGrandmother: Sophia WHEYL/WEYEL/WILE/WEIL/WILD [many different spellings on various official records!] died in 1923 and her obituary mentions her sister only as Mrs. John Evans of Dravosburg, PA. Sophia was 74 when she died and had come to the USA in 1852 as a very young child. Her obit also mentions her brothers [whose surname they spell as WEYEL]: John, Frederick, George and William. Sophia and her husband Peter CLINTNER lived in McKeesport, PA. So they are in the same vicinity as the EVANS you are seeking. Any connections? Cora <[email protected]> >>

Hello List Members, I agree 100%. there is more to Genealogy than names and dates. Items from the newspapers reflect life, as it was lived during that time period. It is especially interesting , when the prices are indicated. The names of the stores and the industries are important clues in Genealogy. If our ancestors did not own the stores, at least we know they did business there. I do not think we should be so critical of someone who takes their time to type the information for all of us to see. It does NOT appear by way of magic. Esther, Uniontown, PA >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [PAMONVAL] Movie Names >Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:21:18 -0500 > >[email protected] wrote: > > > > I hate to burst someone's balloon, but what does this have to do with > > genealogy?? > > Do we need some list rules on what can and can not be posted? > > > > For one thing she gave several lists of names that were very >interesting. My > > cousin is kin to the Vincent family and I'll send this info on to > > them....Laura Nelle > > >And in addition, it gives information on the time period. I for one am >intersted in things my family may have been doing at the time. Just >having names with birth and death dates is very dry, I like to fill out >the history with all the day to day things that were going on. Makes >the people more real. What movies they could have been seeing, the >prices paid for goods etc... > >Victoria Hospodar Valentine >[email protected] > > >==== PAMONVAL Mailing List ==== >Remember!! The "reply to" button will send only to the author of a >message. >If your reply "might" be of interest to the list, be sure to enter >[email protected] in the cc box on your mail program. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hello everyone, I have been told by the Fayette Co., Pa. list that my messages appear (to some subscribers) with non-ASCI characters in the title. These messages are then bouncing back to the listowner. Is this happening on these lists also? The Fayette Co. list is the only one which has complained so far, and I would like to know if the problem is theirs or mine. If it's mine, I don't know what to do about it. Thanks all. ===== Eva Dayle Zippay Tallahassee, Florida [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

I think it was wonderful. It brought back memories, Showed the price for a first run movie at that date. I went to the second time around. It was 10 cents. Grant

Hi folks, I am a WEEKLEY, HIGGINS, TENNANT, BUCHANAN. ENOCH, and PRIBBLE researcher. Hopefully, I will meet some new 'cousins' on the list. Sharon (Weekley) Pawlowski, Cincinnati, OH

Hello list members.... (This started out as a "short note", but it soon became clear that a short note would not be enough. I appologize for the lenghth of this message) There's been a recent thread of messages concerning what does , and what dosn't fit within the scope of genealogy and/or Family history, and what should or shouldn't be included in messages to our list. The actual intended purpose of this list is, as with most mailing lists on rootsweb, would be more Family History, rather that the literal, scientific meaning of genealogy. According to Websters, it give these definitions of Genealogy: "1 : an account of the descent of a person, family, or group from an ancestor or from older forms 2 : regular descent of a person, family, or group of organisms from a progenitor or older form : PEDIGREE 3 : the study of family pedigrees" The original use of genealogy, was not as a hobby, but more as a way of recording "cold hard facts", that would be used for legal (finding heirs, for inheritance, birth parents, etc.) social (classes, clans, royalty), and later, medical purposes. Family history could be described as the study of persons, places, and events. My files here at home are full of personal notes, either from my own memory, or from stories of others, as they help to form a picture of what life was like for my ancestors, what kind of person they were, what type of hardships they may have endured, who their friends were, etc. Most of these notes would not fit into the literal discription of genealogy, but are most definately a part of "family history". I have chosen not to share a lot of this information on the list, unless a.) the event would pertain to, or include a number of other persons, who I could name, and whose family members would find it useful. or b.) the event was a major one that would effect the history of the Mon Valley, or the persons living there. With all that said, we must remember that not everyone has the same idea of what is important, and what isn't. We must also remember that these messages are all being archived, and 20 years from now, someone could be searching for information on our list that is important to them,! (buisnesses opening and closing, persons involved in an event, etc.) So, you see, this "debate" is not black and white. There are many grey areas. It all depends on your point of view. My point of view is that if the info might help someone else understand the life and times of their ancestors, it should be included. (Remember that businesses, organizations, clubs and churches are made up of people, so statements as to the when's and where's of these, even if not containing actual names should be considered acceptable). Messages stating your personal views, beliefs or opinions (political, social, religious) are best kept in private email, and not on the list. Please use you best judgement when posting messages, and if your not sure something should be posted, ask yourelf "could this someone else?" If the answer is Yes, send it. (If it is a response to someone elses post, and you're not sure if it belongs on the list, send it in a private email to that person). And when reading messages, if something seems insignificant, or worthless to you, ask yourself the same question. Again, sorry for my longwindedness. Thanks, Mike Donaldson ([email protected]) Allenport, PA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.my-ged.com/donldson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Listowner of: Monongahela River Valley of Penna Rootsweb mailing list: [email protected] - Mail mode [email protected] - Digest mode

[email protected] wrote: > > I hate to burst someone's balloon, but what does this have to do with > genealogy?? > Do we need some list rules on what can and can not be posted? > > For one thing she gave several lists of names that were very interesting. My > cousin is kin to the Vincent family and I'll send this info on to > them....Laura Nelle > And in addition, it gives information on the time period. I for one am intersted in things my family may have been doing at the time. Just having names with birth and death dates is very dry, I like to fill out the history with all the day to day things that were going on. Makes the people more real. What movies they could have been seeing, the prices paid for goods etc... Victoria Hospodar Valentine [email protected]

In a message dated 11/14/1999 10:19:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << n bouncing back to the listowner. Is this happening on these lists also? The >> Your messages are coming across great to me. I enjoy everything you've added to the rootsweb. Keep up the good work. If everyone would put as much effort in sending info as you have we'd get a genealogy book for our family trees and our future generations....Laura Nelle

Kin Seekers, I do agree that the little tidbits about movies and prices do enhance our genealogy. I call it putting meat on the bones. It is part of doing Family History rather than just Genealogy. However, I do think that we do need some type of guide lines as to what we post and we all need to stick to it. Some could say my answer to Abbreviations was not "Genealogy." JANICE Lompoc, CA

Kin Seekers: "SL" or "Sl" is used in Soundex and Miracode Indexing Systems to mean Sister-in-law or Son-in-law. "Hk" was for Housekeeper, "Se" for Servant, "Se.Cl" for Servant's Child. Many census takers used their own Abbreviation, even if they were not 'official'. I highly recommend The Census Book by William Dollarhide. He lists 129 Relationtion Terms and Abbreviations Used in the Soundex and Miracode Indexing Systems. (By the way, he only lists Son-in-law for SL ). Many of these abbreviations were taken from the unoffical abbreviations used in the census schedules.I have this book and several others and would be more than happy to try and find answers to general questions concerning the census. JANICE

Hello, If there is anyone on the list that is connected to the Vance family, would you please check your records to see if you have a Margaret Vance who married a John Roley who lived at Chestnut Ridge at Mt Pleasant? John Roley's dates are 1749-1822. Margaret was a second wife and was less than half his age. She had two sons: Robert b. 1812, and Michael Vance b. 1816. After John's death in 1822, she married someone by the name of Ryan or Ryam and seems to have disappeared from the PA Census. A man by the surname of Stauffer was appointed a guardian for Michael Vance. We have not found a guardian for Robert. We would like to know whether Margaret was a Vance or a Stauffer. I have not gotten the foggiest notion what church would have been in the area around 1800 to find marriage records or baptismal records. I hope someone can help with this Roley wall. Thank you, Marilyn Jenkins Prinzing, Illinois Anderson, Barringer, Bedall (Beadle), Dicks(Dix), Howe, Jenkins, Johnson, Jordan, Landis, Mayhorn, Minerd, Moller, Roley,Shellenberg(er), Shevlin, Sisler, Weber, Wetzel/Whetzel/Whetsel plus var., Wilson, Worrell. PA: Adams, Allegheny, Berks, Fayette, Greene, Northampton, Somerset, Washington, Westmoreland, York Counties Maryland: Frederick Co. and Hagerstown. Ohio: Akron WV ties also.

The only names in this movie list were actors! Connie Street [email protected] >For one thing she gave several lists of names that were very interesting. My >cousin is kin to the Vincent family and I'll send this info on to >them....Laura Nelle

I hate to burst someone's balloon, but what does this have to do with genealogy?? Do we need some list rules on what can and can not be posted? Connie Street [email protected] > >>From Charleroi Mail, Saturday, May 6, 1944, Page 3: > >At the Coyle, starting Sunday, for 4 days only: > "The Adventures of Mark Twain" > starring Fredric March, Alexis Smith, and Donald >Crisp, Alan Hale, C. aubrey Smith, John Carradine. > Matinee prices: > Children.........30 cents > Adults...........76 cents > Service Men......40 cents > > Evening Prices: > Children...............40 cents > Adults (Balcony).......76 cents > Adults (Main floor)....1.10 cents > Service Men............50 cents >All prices include tax. > > >At the Palace in Charleroi > >"Now showing.......The Magical Musical with Miracle >Technicolor > Rita Hayworth and Gene Kelly in 'Cover Girl" > >"Starts Sunday.....Hearts unconquered in the sky...But >on the ground each a woman! The intimate story of >exciting Girls....who fly today for tomorrow's love! > 'Ladies Courageous,' with Loretta Young, >Geraldine Fitzgerald, Anne Gwynne, Diana Barrymore, >Evelyn Ankers, June Vincent, Lois Collier, Phillip >Terry, David Bruce, Frank JLenks, Richard Fraser" > >"Extra---'3 Stooges in Busy Buddies" > > > > >At the State---"See Here, Private Hargrove", with >Robert Walker, Donna Reed, Keenan Wynn, and Robert >Benchley, plus M-G-M Cartoon "Million Dollar Cat." >Starting Thursday, William Powell and Hedy Lamarr in >"Heavenly Body." > > >The Menlo (Always 2 features) >Final Showings Today, "Jamboree" with Ruth Terry and >"The Black Hills Express" with Don "Red" Barry. Also, >"Captain America, Chapter 4", (A Republic serial in 15 >chapters. Starring Dick Purcell, Lionel Atwill, Lorna >Gray. >Sunday-Monday-Tuesday >"Unforgettable! The picture that will leave you >breathless! 'Guadalcanal Diary' Lloyd Nolan as Sgt. >Hook Malone, Preston Foster as Father Donnelly" >and "What a Woman!" with Rosalind Russell and Brian Aherne > >===== >Eva Dayle Zippay >Tallahassee, Florida >[email protected] >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > >==== PAMONVAL Mailing List ==== >Please support Rootsweb. Mailing lists such as PAMONVAL are made >possible by Rootsweb contributors. Visit the Rootsweb website at >http:/www.rootsweb.com

>From Charleroi Mail, Saturday, May 6, 1944, Page 4: These 3 businesses were advertised: Sun Cut Rate Drug Stores--429 McKean Avenue Selling war bonds and stamps The Charleroi Savings and Trust Company The Bank with the Chime Clock Pfleghardt Furniter Company 416-418 Fallowfield Ave. Charley POWDERMAKER, mgr. Advertising a Simmon's studio lounge--very attractive with maple arms, for $39.50 ===== Eva Dayle Zippay Tallahassee, Florida [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

>From Charleroi Mail, Saturday, May 6, 1944, Page 4: "Plans Ready For Co. Legion District Fete Washington, Pa., May 6--Plans for the banquet in honor of Past Commanders of the 25th District, American Legion, at the George Washington Hotel, Tuesday evening, May 9, were practically completed at a meeting of post commanders and other officials held at the home of Edwin Scott LINTON Post No. 175. With reservations for more than 300 already made, it was announced that applications would not be accepted after next Saturday, May 6. Horace M. BEATTY, City Building, Washington, is chairman of the ticket committee. Indications point to a record attendance. In addition to the former district commanders, prominent state and district officials of the American Legion and Auxiliary will be in attendance as follows: State Commander Frank X. MURRAY, Scranton Mrs. Harry W. PIPER, Altoona, state president of Auxiliary; Edward A. LINSKY, Philadelphia, state adjutant; Robert MALCOLM, Curtisville, western vice commander; Mrs. George GUY, Canonsburgh, western vice president of Auxiliary; Mrs. Leonard J. BRADLEY, Braddock, Auxiliary western director; Mrs. Harriet WAGNER, Charleroi, Tri-County Council president; Mrs. Arthus BEAVER, Dravosburg, past department president of auxiliary; James MURRAY, Forest City, Americanism chairman; Matty BAIN, Uniontown and Rev. Father Francis HOFFMAN, Avella, district chaplain. Commissioner John N. O'NEIL will serve as toastmaster. ===== Eva Dayle Zippay Tallahassee, Florida [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

>From Charleroi Mail, Saturday, May 6, 1944, Page 4: I couldn't resist sending these. Maybe some of the men on the list can try out the first hint and let us know if it works or not, and anyone brave enough can try the second one! "How Can I?, by Anne Ashley .........Q. How can I prevent falling of the hair? A. To prevent falling and to strengthen the hair, rub a cut lemon into the roots. Follow by washing in warm, soft water. Q. How can I freshen rancid butter? A. By melting and skimming, then putting into it a piece of fresh toast. The toast will absorb the odor." My own question---are you supposed to eat the toast? ===== Eva Dayle Zippay Tallahassee, Florida [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

>From Charleroi Mail, Saturday, May 6, 1944, Page 3: At the Coyle, starting Sunday, for 4 days only: "The Adventures of Mark Twain" starring Fredric March, Alexis Smith, and Donald Crisp, Alan Hale, C. aubrey Smith, John Carradine. Matinee prices: Children.........30 cents Adults...........76 cents Service Men......40 cents Evening Prices: Children...............40 cents Adults (Balcony).......76 cents Adults (Main floor)....1.10 cents Service Men............50 cents All prices include tax. At the Palace in Charleroi "Now showing.......The Magical Musical with Miracle Technicolor Rita Hayworth and Gene Kelly in 'Cover Girl" "Starts Sunday.....Hearts unconquered in the sky...But on the ground each a woman! The intimate story of exciting Girls....who fly today for tomorrow's love! 'Ladies Courageous,' with Loretta Young, Geraldine Fitzgerald, Anne Gwynne, Diana Barrymore, Evelyn Ankers, June Vincent, Lois Collier, Phillip Terry, David Bruce, Frank JLenks, Richard Fraser" "Extra---'3 Stooges in Busy Buddies" At the State---"See Here, Private Hargrove", with Robert Walker, Donna Reed, Keenan Wynn, and Robert Benchley, plus M-G-M Cartoon "Million Dollar Cat." Starting Thursday, William Powell and Hedy Lamarr in "Heavenly Body." The Menlo (Always 2 features) Final Showings Today, "Jamboree" with Ruth Terry and "The Black Hills Express" with Don "Red" Barry. Also, "Captain America, Chapter 4", (A Republic serial in 15 chapters. Starring Dick Purcell, Lionel Atwill, Lorna Gray. Sunday-Monday-Tuesday "Unforgettable! The picture that will leave you breathless! 'Guadalcanal Diary' Lloyd Nolan as Sgt. Hook Malone, Preston Foster as Father Donnelly" and "What a Woman!" with Rosalind Russell and Brian Aherne ===== Eva Dayle Zippay Tallahassee, Florida [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

>From Charleroi Mail, Saturday, May 6, 1944, Page 3 "Bundles From Heaven Mrs. and Mrs. John TYLOSKY of Pricedale, a daughter, seven pounds, seven ounces, May 4, 1944, at 8:18 a.m. in Charleroi-Monessen hospital. Mr. and Mrs. James AXTON, of 231 McKean avenue, a son, eight pounds, nine and one-half ounces, May 4, 1944, at 12:56 p.m., in Charleroi-Monessen hospital. Mr. and Mrs. Coleman KRUPPA of Roscoe, a son, eight pounds, twelve ounces, May 5, 1944, at 6:05 a.m., in Charleroi-Monessen hospital." ===== Eva Dayle Zippay Tallahassee, Florida [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

>From Charleroi Mail, Saturday, May 6, 1944, Page 3: "Tri-County Legion Auxiliaries Hold Busy Session In Charleroi A busy meeting of the Tri-County Council of American Legion Auxiliaries was held in Charleroi this week when contributions of coupons, amounting to 175,000 used toward the financing of a clubmobile unit at the battle fronts, were turned in. The meeting of the Council, composed of units from Washington, Greene and Fayette counties, was held in the local Legion home with over 125 delegates representing 23 units of the Council. The executive board convened at 1 o'clock, followed by a regular meeting in charge of Miss Harriet WAGNER of Charleroi Auxiliary. Reports were submitted by subchairmen on activities of the units. Mrs. William PANCOAST, Charleroi, reported the coupon returns and announced that 175,000 of the coupons were turned in at the meeting. Uniontown alone brought in 135,000 of the total and is now leading in the State in coupon collection. Mrs. Earl BERTON, of California, sub-chairman of rehabilitation, spoke of the need of the Auxiliaries in rehabilitating the soldiers of the present war, especially in the veteran hospitals. Mrs. Ben DAVIS, Charleroi, sub-chairman of legislation, talked on the bill before the House for soldier benefits and asked members for its endorsement. Mrs. J.E. GAULT, reporting for war activities, announced plans for participation in the Fifth War Loan drive to start in June. Mrs. J.E. MOBLEY, of Belle Vernon, poppy chairman, announced the date of Poppy Day as May 27. She stressed the importance of the sale this year to assist the veterans of World War I and the present war. She said that many of the younger soldiers are now making the poppies in the veterans hospitals. Mrs. Austin DILLE, Waynesburg, who is department chairman of coupons for the State, congratulated the Council on its coupon work and stated that the group has kept up its collection so that the State department is reaching its quota of $2,100 a month, the value of the coupons. Mrs. Mary McANDRESS, of Pittsburgh, sub-chairman of Child Welfare, conducted the welfare shower, when money and clothing was contributed at the meeting to total $200.55 in cash and merchandise. Guests were Mrs. Edna CHAMBERLAIN, past state department president, and Mrs. Martin EISHLEMON, who is a candidate for state president. Mrs. Leonard BRADLEY, of Braddock, Southwestern director, spoke to the group stressing active participation on Poppy Day and the awarding of medals to the eighth graders. May 31 was announced as 'Patriot Day' when it is requested all Auxiliary members contribute a pint of blood to the blood centers. Mrs. George GEY, of Canonsburgh, Western vice president, congratulated the units on the work of the past three months. Mrs. Elizabeth HARRIS, of Charleroi, who is president of the Past Presidents Parley, announced that election of officers will be held at the next meeting of the Council, August 2. At this time the Council will nominate and elect officers. The meeting will again be held in Charleroi." Do they still have Poppy Day in the Valley? I haven't seen a poppy since we moved to Tallahassee, 20 years ago. I remember my dad selling them. ===== Eva Dayle Zippay Tallahassee, Florida [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com