Elise, does any of this look familiar? Descendants of William ENGARD 1 [1] William ENGARD b: February 08, 1809 d: Aft. 1884 ... +Eliza BOYD b: 1810 in PA m: August 22, 1833 in Germantown, Philadelphia, PA d: Aft. 1870 ..... 2 Theodore J. ENGARD b: December 25, 1833 in PA d: Abt. 1900 ..... 2 Mary Ann ENGARD b: May 07, 1836 in PA .......... +Charles WOOLMAN b: April 08, 1834 in PA m: 1858 in N Lib., Phila., PA ..... 2 Peter T. ENGARD b: November 14, 1838 d: Bet. 1899 - 1920 .......... +Eliza UNKNOWN b: Abt. 1848 d: Aft. 1920 ..... 2 Eliza ENGARD b: February 16, 1841 ..... 2 Henrietta ENGARD b: July 06, 1850 *2nd Wife of [1] William ENGARD: ... +Louisa Ashmead KARTSHER b: Abt. 1853 in PA m: August 06, 1878 ..... 2 Louisa Ashmead ENGARD b: March 17, 1880 ..... 2 William ENGARD b: October 04, 1885 d: October 1972 in PA Charles is a son of Daniel, son of Joel, son of Samuel (supposedly). I've not "proved" the WOOLMAN line. Gerre Engard Byrd